Jun
24
Posted by Lincee

I’M STILL ON TEAM JESSE

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How great was last night? Can I get an amen?!?! So much drama and heartache and emotion and tears. Last night is why we watch this show ladies and gentlemen. Take out the 19 million commercials and waste of six minutes recapping at the beginning and you have a pretty good episode! So good that my friends Jill and Susan, who were watching with me, decided to play a good old fashioned game of leap frog in the front yard in celebratory bliss!

However, with the appropriate kick to the curb of Graham, I’m not sure it’s going to be the most entertaining thing to watch in the upcoming weeks. I’m forced to look for the remaining silver linings.

1. Jesse’s totally rad one liners are the bomb.
2. Jeremy’s chest is nice to look at.

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SIMPLE DISCLAIMER
The following information you are about to read is of personal opinion. You probably aren’t even reading this because the simple disclaimer has been a part of my recap since the days I emailed this puppy to just a few of my closer friends. HA! Fooled you. You’ve skipped this amusing mockery and will not know what in the world your friends are talking about when they say, “Did you like the new disclaimer Lincee did?” However, if you or someone on your Facebook page happens to personally know, sort of know, know the brother/cousin of, thought you saw in the grocery store buying Spring Oreos or have a Jazzercise instructor that looks exactly like one of the Bachelors on the show…none of this is personal and I’m sure they are all lovely people.

Clearly after editing this episode, ABC had about 14 minutes of dead time they needed to fill in order to run for the two hour time slot they had been allotted. When in doubt…play extended commercials promoting WIPEOUT (which I immediately set my DVR to record). When all else fails, RECAP!

Hey…just a quick FYI…did everyone know that DDAHnna was left at the Home Depot Proposal Podium last year? She totally knows what the boys are going through and understands the importance of meeting someone’s family. She is shocked that there are such strong feelings for each one and is puzzled about how she cares for all of them in different ways.

Here’s a brief wrap-up of what DDAHnna shared with America…

DD’s thoughts on Jeremy
“I gave the first impression rose to Jeremy. But then he held back. It wasn’t until Dodger Stadium that I found out he had lost his parents. That is a bond we share. He’s hot. I’m hot. That’s another bond. Oh…and we’ve both lost our parents. I love his abs. He loves my boobs. Those are both on the torso part of your body, so that’s almost the same. What’s the count up to? About 20 things in common? He’s competitive. That ticks me off and make me more competitive, which is similar. He’s really good looking. I’m America’s sweetheart. There’s a bond. And we both know what it’s like to have lost a mother. See? The list goes on and on.”

DD’s thoughts on Jesse
“I wasn’t sure what to think about Jess when he came up to me in that ridiculous suit. But he touched my arm when he sang and that was special. After seeing him on an ATV, I became totally attracted to him. He’s the only guy that has not jumped my bones to kiss me, and I’m not sure why that is because I’m so cute, but I can only conclude that he’s scared that I’ll dump him. And I know what that feels like because, maybe you haven’t heard, but I was in that same predicament with evil Brad Womack. But Jesse is not that way at all. He’s more like that sweet kid brother of your friend that you realize grew up when you went away to college. But I’m not sure if he’s past the kegger phase. I need someone who is going to savor his bourbon and Coke. Is he ready for that commitment? I don’t know. But I would like to know what his tongue tastes like.”

DD’s thoughts on Jason“He is sincere and a wonderful guy. I’m totally fine with him having a son. Although I’m a little worried that the kid would trump me in the future and I’ve made it pretty clear that when I’m in your life…I’m number one. Is it a red flag? I’m not sure. Something I’ll have to figure out soon.”

DD’s thoughts on Graham“OH GOOD LORD HE IS HOT! Smoking to be exact. Intern. INTERN! Bring Mama an ice cube so I can rub it on my neck and put out this fire, honey. I have such passionate feelings about Graham. I’ve been to his website. HELLO! He makes me feel like a giddy school girl. There have been rocky parts to our relationship, but I’m okay with it. There’s an undeniable connection that I can WAIT to spark in the forgo card suites. Don’t put that part on TV.”

The montage ends with DDAHnna…hear her roar…driving her OWN car to the airport on her way to Colorado to meet precious Jesse.

DATE ONE
Breckenridge, Colorado
Adorable Jesse

We find our sweet Jesse in a bright blue Smurf-ish ski suit, snow boarding his guts out on the slopes of Breckenridge. He tells the camera that he teaches little kids to snow board on these very mountains and some of his girls have a crush on him.

Some adults do too. How much does a plane ticket to Colorado cost these days?
I’m just saying.

He boards right up to DDAHnna and tells her she looks amazing and he is syked (of course he is) for her to see him in his element. He helps with her helmet and encourages her to hang on to him as they make their way down the snowy mountain.

Jess: “Press on you toes. Come to me. Stand up tall. D…look at me. Don’t look down. I have beautiful eyes…you should look at them.”

Then he lets her go and she slams into the snow. Jill, Susan and I all laughed. I’m sure you did too.

Jess jumps in his snow board and dives to her rescue. Gentleman. Love it.

He tells the camera the D killed it on the slopes and he loves that she is a natural athlete. He tells her he is impressed with her skills and can’t believe she didn’t fall on her badonkehdonk. She answers back that she wanted to vomit the entire time.

Probably not the best line DD. Game on girl. THIS IS JESSE! He is not your little brother.

She asks about his family and what she should expect with meeting them. He says his Mom is laid back. His Dad will joke. And then he talks about how much he loves and respects his family.

DDAHnna gets on some random soap box about independence, and feeling safe and how she is always right. Somehow that leads to her remembering that when she was flung off the mechanical bull, Jess was the first one to see if she was okay. He says he knows that she will return the favor if ever she is at one of his X-Game events and is flung off his board. She agrees. Lincee is confused, but loves Jesse, so she goes with it.

And it’s at this next moment that I really, really start to dig Jesse’s chili.

DDAHnna jumps on Jesse’s back…piggy style…and he proceeds to snowboard down the mountain, weaving in and out of everyone in his path. D is screaming for her life and begging him not to run into trees.

It reminds me of the time when I was about nine years old and I scrambled onto my Daddy’s back so we could jump off the diving board together. Instead of jumping, my Dad chooses to do a front flip. Yeah. That was fun. Almost as fun as when he would push me under water to see how long I could hold my breath. Good times.

Jesse later admits to the camera that he is nervous to show D his house. He says it is little, but has lots of character. Which, in my opinion, is a PERFECT HOUSE. I think it should be full of memories. You should feel warm because you are surrounded by things you love and cherish. Who cares if it doesn’t match? Who cares if there is a TV the size of a bus on the wall? Who cares the main decorating inspiration comes from old vintage snow boards. IT’S REAL and IT’S FABULOUS!

Immediately, DD walks in to see a huge sign on the wall that reads, JSAK. She asks what it stands for. Jesse answers.

“It stands for Just Snowboarding Ambition Kids. It’s a non-profit that I helped organize for kids who can’t afford to go to competitions.”

Short. Simple. He’s never mentioned it before. I think that is a huge plus. And he quickly escorts her to one of his pride and joys…his kitchen. Check out the floor! He laid it himself. Check out the labels. Got that label machine from his Mom this past Christmas. What is this? SQUARE PLATES! Very chic.

Jesse’s parents show up. He and the Dad are identical. Dad is wearing a hat that has fake hair coming out of the back. They make small talk at the dinner table.

D: “I don’t typically date boys with long hair.”
Lincee: Why would you say that? You’ve said it about 34 times. That’s rude.

D: “Jesse did the most pushups in a challenge. I was very impressed. He surprised me.”
L: Again. Rude.
Jesse: “I was sore for three days.”
L: I HEART HIM!

Jesse leads his Pop back to his bedroom, where he hoists himself up on his dresser and asks Dad what he thinks about DDAHnna.

Dad: “When you look in her eyes, does she look away?”
Jess: “NO! She cuts right through me. My hands sweat. My heart beats.”
Dad gets sentimental: “Your Mama made my hands sweat.”
Lincee: Wipes a tear away.

Back in the kitchen, Mom and DDAHnna talk about Jesse.

Mom: “I just want someone who will lift him up and make him happy. We went twelve years without having a child. I gave up and then we had him. That’s why we named him Jesse. It means a gift from God. Just remember, whatever will be, will be. I’m delighted I got the pleasure to meet you.”

WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

Wilma is precious.

Dad encourages Jesse to open up and put himself out there. He decides to take the plunge and he and DD ride in a handsome cab where he makes out with her for the first time.

“I don’t want to think. I just want to be in the moment. She has taken the key and unlocked my heart. I am now going to kick it up about 10 notches. Those other dudes won’t know what hit them.”

[slow clap…jesse, jesse, Jesse, Jesse, JESSE, JESSE!]

DATE TWO
Dallas, TX
Jeremy

Jeremy picks DDAHnna up on the side of the road in his motorcycle. She thinks this is super cool and mentally adds it to her list of things they have in common. During their jaunt around Big D, I’m pretty sure Jeremy reaches back and grabs DDAHnna’s hand and places it in his crotch. Probably to keep them warm, I’m sure.

They arrive at Jeremy’s house. Jeremy’s annoyingly perfect house. Everything is made out of metal, granite and wood. It’s either khaki, white or grey. Much like Jeremy’s personality. They pass the pristine dining room table, and DDAHnna points out the ginormous papers hung all along the wall. These are his bar exam notes.

Alright. Dude. C’mon. We know you are a pretend lawyer. No one in my experience…and it is extensive…hung extra large Post-It notes all along their house to help them study for the bar. As soon as I type this sentence, I’m forced to note that there are probably hundreds of you who either did this or knew someone who did this and would reprimand me fiercely in the comments section. That’s fine. You all should join your own little club and create a Facebook group. My point being, if ABC is coming to your house…or even your fake house…to film and you have arranged for your maid to come and get rid of anything remotely human, besides your photo albums and journal, then probably the first thing that would have hit the trash was the ginormous bar exam notes. At least throw some Con Law books and legal pads around the dining room table to make it look like you at least studied there. He bugs.

They go outside to enjoy his perfect view. DDAHnna scratches his back up and down. That’s an intimate gesture. At least the dog, Chemo, is cool.

Jeremy decides, again, to talk about their bond and shows her old photos. Then he reads from the journal he kept as his Mom was dying. So sad. He tells her, as mascara streams down her face, that his Mom reminds him a lot of her. Then they talk about how they have this bond. Again. In case you missed it.

Oh. And did you know that D was left at the Home Depot Proposal Pedestal? For future reference in case you didn’t realize this bit of information.

It’s time to meet brothers Jason and Patrick. For some reason, D is laying on the Southern accent pretty thick as they have perfect dinner on the perfect table with the perfect dog lying perfectly below. D announces to the group that Jeremy is the first guy she would NOT have to decorate for when she comes in and takes over his boring hum drum life! Score!

Side note: Patrick and Jason call Jeremy, Germy. Pet peeve of mine. It’s annoying, but it’s true. Jer-A-my. Not Germy.

Meredith, the sister-in-law, is touched to hear that Jeremy opened up to DDAHnna. She is actually in awe. Jason and Patrick are concerned that Jeremy is going to get a broken heart. They give DDAHnna the second degree and say that they are NOT on her side. If she marries one, she marries the whole brood. Including Chemo. And no one, I mean NO ONE touches the bar exam notes. Got it?

DDAHnna admits she has sweaty palms (See? She and Jesse are soul mates) and tells them that family is the most important thing to her.

Jeremy later tells DDAHnna in front of the fake fire with no real wood, that he doesn’t just want her…he NEEDS her. In his pants.

Okay. He didn’t say that, but PLEASE! Can we get some sort of action or adventure in this home town visit? I’m dying here! Jill put it best when she said, “He’s just vanilla. We need some chocolate sprinkles.”

What we need is Jesse, but I’ve already recapped him so let’s move on.

DATE THREE
Jason
Seattle, WA

Look! DD is wearing her cute yellow rain coat for the drippy Seattle weather! Too bad the producers didn’t make her read “Seattle for Dummies” before arriving, because that Georgia girl had no idea what the Space Needle was.

Bless her heart.

Jason is so freaking excited, he can’t contain himself. He’s jumping up and down and can’t wait to embrace her in a big hug. Dude is smitten. He takes her to the tip top of the Space Needle and points out ferry boats.

Raise your hand if your mind wandered to Dr. McDreamy? Put your hands down. Thinking of McDreamy, how many of you then went straight to McSteamy?

I thought so.

Hair whipping dramatically in the wind, DD admits to the camera that this date is all about finding out if there is “something” there with Jason.

At lunch, Jason warns DD that Ty is in his “pirate” phase (so cute) and DD proceeds to remind Jason that she wants three kids by the time she is 30.

She’s 26 years old. You do the math.

They leave the Needle and head to the park to meet Ty.

[Cue the swelling instrumental suite from Forrest Gump.]

Jason sees Ty from across a green meadow. He yells. Ty responds and begins to book it (as fast as a three-year-old can go) to meet his Daddy in the most precious embrace ever. Ty is happy that his Daddy is not “sad” any more.

Pass the freaking Kleenex. This kid is straight up out of a Baby Gap ad.

After introductions, DDAHnna crouches down and pulls her first lame move and gives the kid a blue golf ball as a present. Great airport gift there D. Nothing says “nice to meet you kid” like a Titleist.

He gives her a “bump” as a thank you. Again. ADORABLE.

DD and Jason crouch down (a lot of this going on) to have a duck party with Ty. Bread and ducks named Ted are everywhere. It’s fun. That’s how duck parties roll I hear. Jason decides to be cute and asks Ty, “Why was Daddy in California?”

Ty: “To meet a pretty girl.”
Jason: “Do you know which one?”
Ty pointing to D: “THAT ONE!”

The ABC intern runs over and gives Ty a chunk of his reduced fat blueberry coffee cake (because that’s all they had at Starbucks) for delivering the line exactly how they had practiced.

Lame line of the night—DDAHnna to Ty: “Do you like riding in the car?”

I’m wondering if she’s ever been around kids.

D meets the family and the Mom gives a toast to the mid-West. They served her Greek food. She talks about liking four guys at once. Probably not the best table talk, but whatever. Jason talks about the sparkle in D’s eyes. D gathers the family around and tells Ty that she has named a star after him. He’s confused and wants to hold the star. D says that it is a million billion miles away and he will never get to touch it. Ty cries. It’s Academy Award worthy. Then they play spontaneous leap frog in the back yard, including the 300 pound Dad. Will the grass stains come out in DD’s kicky yellow coat? We may never know.

Mom encourages Jason to open his heart and take down some of the amour he has put up. Then she tells him to be brave. Then all the family starts crying as Jason embraces Ty with a passionate hug and tells him he will be back for him tomorrow. Everyone is crying. Ty is in a death grip. Jason peels his son off and hands him to his Mom. D is ugly crying and tells the camera that he had to leave his heart on the line to be with her and she digs that.

Cut to them in a random room making out. Jason tells her she has soft lips.

Lincee gags.

DATE FOUR
Raleigh, NC
Graham

I have to admit that the three of us were pretty sure Graham was going to be the one hitting the road this episode. He’s just emotionally unavailable and that does not translate well with DD.

However, during their date, Graham had become a whole new person and loved to share with DD.

When she arrived at his old high school gym, DD could not keep her hands from around his neck and waist. He had to ask her to please dismount so they could walk through the doors. Once inside, he presented her with a jersey. She asked if that was his last name. I thought that was odd, but was more interested in the potential of Grrrraham stripping his shirt to replace with his own jersey.

Cut to them playing basketball. No gratuitous skin shot. ABC is letting me down.

After a few games of HORSE, D and Graham sit on the bleachers, eating cantaloupe, bananas and drinking red Gatorade from their cooler.

Let’s stop right here for a minute. Clearly the ABC intern is not into sports. He is much more in his element with fluffy pillows, candles, feathers and anything to do with pools or beaches. I’m just saying.

They talk about his parents. He tickles her palms the entire time. His Mom is amazing. His Dad is quiet. They go to the house to meet the family and immediately I love Ike. Those glasses. That demeanor. Graham’s Daddy is a doll.

The boys drink whiskey and talk about how pretty DD is and how interesting that she talks so fast being from Georgia. The girls gather in Graham’s old room and talk about how he has a problem with commitment.

Oh dear Karen. I think you just stuck your foot in your mouth.

Mom: “There have not been a lot of serious girlfriends. Finding someone who lasts past four weeks is difficult for Graham.”

DD looks at her watch. Four week mark is today. She feels deflated and wants to talk to Graham about it outside. But where to go?

The woods of course. Intern! Get a bench over here facing this tree. I don’t care that it doesn’t make sense for a bench to face a tree…JUST DO IT!

Graham is annoyingly quiet.

D: “What’s on your mind?”
G: “Everything.”
D: “Are you okay?”
G: “Yeah.”
D: “You are worrying me.”
G: Silence.
D: “You handle things differently than I do. You run away.”
G: “No…I handle it internally.”
D: “Is this how you would be if it was just me and you?”
G: “This is how I am, so yeah.”

It’s called self sabotage people, and that was a classic example.

DD tells the camera that she is extremely disappointed. She will not beg him to fall in love with her.

ROSE CEREMONY
DDAHnna is spent. This is an impossible choice. She is scared to make the wrong decision. How can she choose?

“Jesse has progressed normally, even though he is wearing a Miami Vice suit tonight. Jeremy is not even vanilla at the moment. More like that base you get before they put all the good stuff in at Marble Slab. Half of Jason’s heart belongs to his son. Graham is hot and I am truly outrageous in my Jem outfit. What’s a girl to do?”

You suck it up and rub some dirt in it, that’s what you do. DD is no frail flower. She is tough. She is in charge. She even skips the “you are all great but I have to get rid of one” monologue.

“I pick Jesse, Jeremy and Jason. SUCK ON IT GRAHAM!”

Graham laughs, high fives and makes his way up to DDAHnna. She’s steamed at this point and walks him out to the denied park bench.

G: “You did what you felt you needed to do. This is goodbye forever.”
D: “I made it perfectly clear. I’m not going to repeat Brad. If you didn’t know, he left me at the Home Depot Proposal Pedestal and I promised not to open up to someone who didn’t open up in return. I felt like you were leading me on.”

G: “If that’s what you say.”
D: “THIS IS NOT EASY FOR ME GRAHAM. YOU HAVE NO IDEA.”

G: “Obviously you don’t see in me what you need to continue on. Your decision is easy now.”
D: “I care deeply. I’m saying goodbye to the one person I’m falling in love with. That’s how hard this is for me. I was falling and you weren’t doing the same.
I can’t take the chance that you wouldn’t choose me in return. Now I’m stuck with those three in there.”

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DD begins a sever case of ugly crying before she walks him to the car.

And then Graham stands up, reaches into his back pocket and pulls out a note. It’s for her…not the camera…not the show. He says it would mean a lot if she read it one day. He knew it would be hard to tell her stuff, so he wrote it out.

She leaves it on the denial bench and walks him to the limo. He gets in and looks really sad as he drives out of her life forever. Or until the contract is up in six months.

DD said it was hard to let Graham go because she was falling in love. Too bad she hasn’t said that about any of the other three. Now she’s second guessing her decision and is afraid to forgo card with the other boys.

According to next week’s previews, she may not get to forgo with Jesse. Because he wants to meet her Daddy first.

I wish that I was Jesse’s girl.

All about the fame, not the shame,

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  1. JL Said,

    AMEN! Last night was a great episode!

  2. local motion Said,

    What a GREAT week on the show!!! Finally!!! ALSO….loved the recap, Lincee, and previous comments from the previous post. Did anyone else find it freaky that Graham was forever stroking DD’s palm? Yikes!

  3. L Said,

    First, I haven’t watched the episode, but I hear it’s great. Second, I’m a lawyer (I feel like Star Jones saying that) in Texas, and I do NOT have bar exam notes posted anywhere. If Jason needs to do a little legal research, there are websites for that. If he wants to remember the Bar exam, he is just sick. Getting ready for it was so incredibly stressful and horrible, I’ve blocked most of it from memory. As has every other lawyer I know.

    The recap is hilarious! I can’t wait to watch the show.

  4. Tara Said,

    BEST. RECAP. EVER.

  5. Cassie Said,

    I agree that this was one awesome episode. I seriously got teary-eyed too many times.

    I seriously fell in love with Jesse and his family after that episode. How great were his parents?! He’s one cool guy. I don’t know if she’ll pick him in the end though. I’m a huge fan of Jason, always have been. I’ve also always been a fan of Jeremy but agree that he does seem to be a little quiet. Maybe that would change when cameras aren’t in his face. I think he seems like a pretty awesome guy though.

    As for the Bar notes, I don’t think it was weird that he used the posters, but it was weird that he didn’t get rid of them before she came over. I take the Bar in a month and I can guarantee that my house will be completely free of any Bar-related study materials the day I’m finished.

    With Graham, I think she made the right decision. I did feel bad for her though. She was definitely attracted to him, and it’s hard to face the facts that a relationship like their’s isn’t necessarily a good one. Her getting rid of Graham when she did I think makes it obvious that she is trying to do the right thing and is there for genuine reasons. I do hope it works out for her.

  6. Brittney Said,

    As a personal friend-of-a-friend of Jeremy’s, I can tell you that the ABC intern put those Post-Its there! They usually live in Jeremy’s office or in his bedroom.

    You’re awesome, Lincee–your recaps are better than the show itself!

  7. elizabeth Said,

    Badonkehdonk! lol!

    I knew Graham was from Raleigh, but didn’t realize he went to Wake Forest Rolesville High. That’s about 1/2 mile from our house. I spit my milk out when I saw that come up. How could I have missed the taping?

    Love the recap- it’s the only reason I watch the show.

  8. IheartDeAnna Said,

    Lincee is slowly becoming my girl crush after DD… You rock. Jeremy is Tom Cruise in Texas lawyer form. Something is brewing and it’s going to be an awards dinner with the Scientologists.

    Team Jesse! Representing Colorado!

    Kicky yellow jackets match blue golf balls.

    Lyn, Denver.

  9. Anywho Said,

    I agree with the post from the previous comments… Jesse’s house HAD to be staged. THAT guy with THAT mentality would not have labeled cupboards and square plates. He would either have plastic cups that come free with your pizza order or just beer cans hanging around. I have been to a rental property before in the mountains and that’s exactly what they do so the renters know where to put things. You can tell how quickly he passed by the subject when she brought it up. I think it’s a rental place because half of that furniture would NOT be there if left up to “Im-still-12-stuck-in-a-18-yr-olds-body” boy. I like Jesse A LOT more than I use to but seriously… DD picking him? She won’t be fulfilling her dreams of having 3 kids in 3.5 years with him!

  10. bach addict Said,

    Best , Recap . Ever . :) I’m ready for the MTA episode!

  11. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    Amen! Great show and Great Recap!
    Jesse – They have tons in common with the exception of looks and style. She needs to pick him
    Jeremy – too “perfect”. His journal reading made me cry but I had wonder why share that at this point. Did anyone else notice that he gave her the helmet he was wearing when he pulled up??? EW!
    Jason – Ty and his family pushed him up and over the mark. He is too much of the woman in the relationship. He wouldn’t be man enough for DD.
    Graham – I knew he was going just from the preview. I knew she WANTED it to be him. But I don’t get why she didn’t let him go on the fantasy date so she could so how much he could open up to us…I mean her….
    I’m up in the air on who will go next week (Jeremy for because he is too perfect or Jason because she won’t lead him on and break two hearts)
    I think Jesse will be the last man standing and that will date for awhile and break up quickly and she’ll hook back up with Graham later…

  12. bach addict Said,

    and i forgot to say thank you, Lincee, for posting a picture of my husband this time around. I can’t ever get enough Dempsey.

  13. Domestic Chicky Said,

    Brilliant as usual – Graham was just Brad redux – run far far away from that one! I think she picks Jason, but after hearing that he wasn’t “the one” she was falling for, do you think he (or any of them) will stick around?

  14. Karen S Said,

    Wow – no other rose ceremony ended where the person who was NOT picked, high fived, laughed, and generally just hooped it up with the people where WERE picked. I think they had to edit out the huge, LOUD sigh of relief from Graham when he was finally let go of his personal h*** that was being on the Bachelorette. I almost bet he called his mom in advance and asked her to lay the ‘Graham doesn’t last more than 4 weeks with most girls’ -line on DD. And seriously – was he not trying to hold back a total smile and laugh attack on the bench while DD was telling him how hard it was to send him packing? I think that’s what he was doing with his face turned.

    I don’t think DD meshes well with the rest – but of those three, I think she’s best matched with Jeremy but for some reason, he’s not exotic enough for her (granted, he is vanilla – but sometimes ‘rocky road’ is not what it’s cracked up to be!) I prefer vanilla for a life-time commitment, but that’s just me.

    Stellar recap, I can’t wait to see next week’s ‘double feature’ when the men tell all and DD takes it to the ‘next level’ (whatever that will be) with the remaining three.

  15. DJ Said,

    I Heart Jesse. However, I really do not want to see her pick him. Why? Because she seems like the kind of girl that would immediately start trying to change him. And I happen to like Jesse just the way he is.

  16. bach addict Said,

    pick jeremy. leave the others fully intact for the wonderful single women who have grown to love them. can’t say i’m single, but i certainly love jesse & jason*****.

  17. Dee Said,

    I too hope Jesse is not DD’s pick. Why? Because he’s too good for her? Why more importantly? Because that frees him up to hook up with Lincee!!!! What a fabulous and funny couple they would be.

    Go with Jeremy, they can be vanilla and boring together. Jason and Ty are too sweet and could do better.

  18. Dallasgrl Said,

    Loved this line “Lame line of the night—DDAHnna to Ty: “Do you like riding in the car?” I’m wondering if she’s ever been around kids.”

    I was thinking it was a stupid thing to say too!

  19. Holley Said,

    I agree that this was a great episode!! Your best Recap EVER!!!! I look forward to this every week! I cannot believe that she said she was falling in love with Graham and did not mention the other 3 she has to CHOOSE from !!! That makes me not look forward to the end- whoever she chooses I don’t think it will last!!!

  20. Jenny F Said,

    I agree with DJ. If DD picks Jesse, she will be trying to change him from the get go. Anyone else notice that they haven’t ONCE promoted “most exciting finale…proposal…etc”? Something tells me DD pulls a Brad and doesn’t choose anyone- which would be so ironic.

    The attraction with Graham (besides the obvious) is that he wasn’t always available to DD and that made her want him more and more. If any of these other guys played the “hard to get” card, she’d be in love with them too. I think DD is a little (or a lot) self-centered and is flabergasted that Graham wasn’t falling head over heels with her. Even Jesse played a little hard to get (not kissing her til last night) and that’s probably why he stayed around so long. Jeremy and Jason are too available to her and that’s not as intriguing as Graham or even Jesse. I have a feeling its gonna be a boring finale…

  21. E Said,

    I like Jason & Jesse – So I hope she picks Jeremy – the typical d-bag Dallas guy.

  22. W3 Said,

    OK — not to be tacky — but did you notice the aluminum foil pan “serving dish” at Jesse’s dinner? And it looked like a giant TV dinner — entree and sides all in one “dish”. I doubt that Jeremy has a single aluminum foil pan in his place!!
    I have to admit — this may have been the most “geniune” episode I’ve seen. Mainly due to the families of the guys — all seemingly normal, nice people.
    I can’t wait for Guys Tell All.

  23. Cilantro13 Said,

    “No one in my experience…and it is extensive…hung extra large Post-It notes all along their house to help them study for the bar”

    I have taken two bars. I used this new invention called a “book” to study. It worked great, and I passed. Twice.

  24. Emily Said,

    “I pick Jesse, Jeremy and Jason. SUCK ON IT GRAHAM!”

    Best. Recap. Line. Of. The Season!

    And really think Graham’s plan backfired on him….I think he thought that by being “breezy” with her he would stay around and I think he was genuinely shocked he was going home once they got outside or he woudn’t have written the note beforehand. After he laughed of course when she called his name.

  25. ashley Said,

    at least we know her name won’t be d-on-a-bunn. even the hotness could not compensate for such a travesty. go team jesse!

  26. KC in TX Said,

    #9 and others who think Jesse couldn’t pull off what you saw. Have you never heard of “Don’t judge a book by it’s cover”????? He’s 26 and grateful that he accomplsihed as much as he has. He wants to share it with others. And, while the general asumption seems to be that snowboarders are immature, you can’t think there’s not an exception! Guys have wierd hang ups, he happens to like labeling machines. It could be alot worse!

  27. a Said,

    obviously ddahna doesn’t watch grey’s anatomy! great recap lincee, i can’t believe you didn’t mention the “have you ever taken a carriage ride” comment – that line was the best of the night!

  28. mothercita Said,

    Lincee, you crazy girl. Funniest recap ever! Hard to choose my favorite hilarious comment, but right up there would have to be, “I am truly outrageous in my Gem outfit.”
    Jesse is da BOMB! I agree with DJ–DD needs to pick Cash McMogulson-er-Germy and leave precious Jesse for someone more deserving and equally precious, say… maybe…Lincee. Loved when he stated, very matter of factly, “I’m about to kick it up about 10 notches”. How cute is he!!

  29. Maureen Said,

    Funniest recap ever!!! You had me laughing so hard. Favorite line: I am truly outrageous in my Gem outfit. I mean… that’s just hilarious.

  30. IheartJesse Said,

    I definitely think that earned the “most dramatic rose ceremony ever” title…but no mention of it from OHCH…what a shame. My random thoughts on this one:

    Jesse: so HOT! He can throw me on his back and snowboard down a mountain anyday of the week. He has such a realistic view of dating her and progressing at a normal pace…too bad DD has her 3 kids by 30 plan. She’s not too smart in the math department apparantly. Oh, what do you think he was whispering to her in between kisses in the carriage?

    Jason: nice guy but a little too needy. And definitely not one to stand up to DD and put her in her place. Seriously, how do you not know about the space needle??? And the golf ball thing–so random and weird.

    Jeremy: easy on the eyes, but very vanilla. I definitely thinks he fits that Dallas guy image…and I can say that because I live in Dallas. His “perfect guy” image is probably far from the truth. Pretty sure he’s next to go home.

    Graham: Oh Graham…you are hot but that’s about all you have going for you. It was all about the chase with him…we’ve all done it before.

    DD, you are killing me. Time to get over your “plan” and realize that Jesse is a great catch. You don’t have to marry the guy…date him, get to know him better and see where it could lead. If it doesn’t work out then you can revert back to your ways and crawl back to Graham cracker!

  31. mothercita Said,

    I forgot to mention–LOVED the snowboard Hall of Fame. What a creative and manly interior design idea!

  32. Michelle Said,

    GREAT recap, Lincee! I’m amazed at how much funny material you managed to get out of an episode that I thought was so real and serious. Just further proves what everyone is saying about you needing to write a book : ) Loved all the guys’ families and felt the guys and DD were actually very genuine — a nice change from episodes past. Jason has been my fav from day 1 — think he is seriously adorable — but Jesse is becoming a close second. Impossible to tell who she’s going to choose with the crazy editing that ABC does. I think she’s done a pretty good job of narrowing the field down to three good choices and was actually very smart to let Graham go. I’ve never been on the “Graham is HOT” bandwagon, but hey, that’s me…but who hasn’t been “in love” with a seriously hot guy who is completely not into you. I think it was very mature of her to realize that even though SHE was seriously into him, it has to be a two-way street to work. How many of our favorite Bachelors have had that same realization? Um. No one.

    On a separate note relating to a previous book club posting, has anyone read Jen Lancaster? She’s hilarious and also has a blog.

  33. MC Said,

    Lincee-will you email OHCH and ask him why there haven’t been any finale previews?? they’ve done a great job keeping the ending under wraps…i haven’t even seen too many spoilers!

    i’m thinking that the earlier spoilers were right and it’ll be jason and jesse in the final two. don’t know who she’ll pick though.

    i cried during germy’s letter and the hello and goodbye with ty. i dont see either of them ending in a proposal though. we’ll see

    i love to plan. but i think dd is a little ridiculous planning 3 kids by the time she’s 30.

  34. Jill Said,

    Yea, the “3 kids by 30″ thing made me cringe. As a happily married (for 5 years) 27 year old with no kids, I don’t even think it would be physically possible to have 3 in the next 3 years. I mean, her uterus WILL need a little break in there, ya know?

    But considering she had never seen or heard of the Space Needle I wouldn’t be surprised if she didn’t know that babies took awhile to make and bake. It isn’t like the stork starts dropping them in your lap the second you say “I do”.

    I like Jesse and Jason. Neither are DD’s type though so I foresee a Home Depot sponsored proposal followed shortly thereafter with a breakup. Maybe she will go find Graham. He might count as kid #1!

  35. bach addict Said,

    17 – We should sooooooooo hook Jesse up with Lincee. I bet she would be game!!!

  36. Chelsea Said,

    Hahah I never realized…”D on a bun” hahahahahahaha

  37. Char Char Said,

    Thanks Lincee for a great recap.

    Honestly, I don’t like Deanna for any of these guys. I think she isn’t worthy!

  38. jaybird Said,

    I just keep thinking of how awkward it must have been for Jesse, Jason or Jeremy if they were sitting next to D last night watching this episode and seeing how she was gushing over Graham proclaiming her love for him and only him!

    If i had to pick one for her from those three (although i don’t think she actually loves any of the three), i’m agreeing with the above and going with jeremy cuz the other two are way too nice to have to deal with a snob like her and her rude comments.

    Reading this recap just brightens my boring day!! :)

  39. Deb Said,

    Seriously, Lincee, can you post pictures of OHCH and Jesse side by side? I’m telling you, Jesse is his lovechild.

  40. CK Said,

    Awesome Recap! I don’t cry at TV ever, but I certainly teared up a few times last night.

  41. BM Said,

    “I am truly outrageous in my Jem outfit.” I loved out loud at work when I read that and had to pretend it was a sneeze. I love these recaps and I want Jeremy’s house.

  42. GBF Said,

    #40…I KNOW…how many times were we supposed to cry or get all teared up? Apparently, every five minutes seemed to be the norm last night. Crazy. It was the battle of who has the biggest heartbreak in their lives: waiting 12 years for little Jesse, losing one or both parents, leaving my 3 year old to make out with the potential step monster, or well…Graham not having much beyond his looks. The last point may be the saddest. Now I’m tearing up again…dang it!

  43. Julie Said,

    Lincee – I love that Graham’s website made the recap this week, because I totally Googled him last night while I was watching his utterly painful hometown date!!! It’s sort of odd to me that he is identified as a professional basketball player on the show, though, because he suffered a career-ending injury while playing in Germany, according to his website. He’s now focusing on his non-profit work, which I think is way more impressive than playing basketball, but apparently Mr. Bunn (LOL) disagreed. :)

    I found myself disliking Jeremy less than usual last night. He was still vanilla and ENTIRELY too perfect (which, to me, indicates that he is hiding something). I was touched by his emotional conversation re: his mom, though.

    I think Jesse is my favorite right now, though Jason and his son are adorable together. I totally want to take a snowboarding lesson from Jesse! If only I lived closer to Breckenridge. Sigh…

  44. Steph Said,

    DD on the Space Needle “That was the most amazing view I’ve ever seen in my entire life.”
    DD on they Ty Jason reunion hugs “That was the most touching moment I’ve ever seen in my entire life.”
    Steph on DD “This girl is the most annoying girl I’ve ever listened to in my entire life.”

    Great recap Lincee!!

  45. Carolina Said,

    Right on, #44 Steph!!

    I live in Colorado, and buy a season pass to snowboard every year at Breckenridge, Keystone, and A-Basin. I can definitely tell you that real estate in Breckenridge is astronomical. I’d be shocked if Jesse really does own that house. Not to call him a liar, but I’m just sayin…most “professional snowboarders” don’t make a lot of money. A lot of the ones I’ve met in Breck share houses (usually 4-5 to a house!), and always rent because pro snowboarding is a pretty nomadic lifestyle.

    Still not on Team Jesse–don’t hate me! I think she should choose Germy–I would never date him, but they deserve each other I think.

  46. MC Said,

    For those hating on Jeremy for the giant post its…I just read on another website that Jeremy just took the bar in February 2008. So based on the fact that the show filmed earlier this year…he probably left quickly after he took the bar to go on the show.

    lay off people!

  47. Jess Said,

    When you started the clap for Jesse, it totally cracked me up. Try this if you ever need a pick me up….Lincee…lincee.lincee.lincee…..lincee.lincee.lincee…. lincee lincee LLLIIINNNCEEEE (to the tune of “Eye of the Tiger”) makes me smile every time!

  48. Mary Said,

    What is Graham’s website address?

  49. AB Said,

    “I am truly outrageous in my Jem outfit”…….oh gracious, I almost spit my water – maybe she needs some star sunglasses

  50. Bachelor Fan Said,

    Thank you to everyone who answered my question, “Are there really people out there who don’t know what the Space Needle is? Come on.” I thought I was biased since I work just a few blocks away from it, but apparently everyone else (besides DD) knows what it is. Phew. I thought Seattle was going to have to hire a new advertising firm.

  51. AB Said,

    http://www.grahambunn.com

  52. T Said,

    From episode one I thought she would pick Jeremy and haven’t yet wavered much. He is a little dull, but maybe it’s because it’s TV and he’s nervous? He’s definitely the logical choice.

    I liked Jason on and off this season but he lost me completely when he was “comforting” her a couple of episodes back. It was a bit creepy. He definitely lost me when he started bouncing up and down in the park when he saw her. Definitely gave me the “too needy and clingy” vibe. And if I met a family for the first time and we all commenced in a big game of leapfrog? Nope. Not going back.

    I was so mad at DD for constantly digging at Graham to open up. I believe I said out loud “For the love of God, so he’s not yap, yap, yapping all day like you! He’s quiet, cut the guy some slack!” I felt like she has probably always picked the wrong guy and tried to mold him to fit her. Then he had his smart aleck face on during the rose ceremony and I was glad he got knocked down.

    Jesse still doesn’t do anything for me. Can we really see her deciding to live in a dumpy rental with each snow board “with meaning” hung on all the walls? I don’t think so.

    Great recap and as always, I can’t wait for the next one!

  53. sharbear Said,

    Just a hunch but I can totally see Jeremy standing in the middle of his bedroom, pumping iron, and memorizing the miles of post-its on his wall!! Knowing him, he may have kept them up there thinking he would have to retake the exam! Loved the recap of Jeremy.

  54. Melissa Said,

    People, people, people! Jesse is THE MAN! And that takes some doing IMHO, because I would never have guessed he had the depth, maturity and all-around charm he displayed last night. I too was one of those doubters, wondering what the hell she was thinking, choosing him week after week. Now WE know, but DDuh still doesn’t.

    Unlike others here, I am confident we DID see his home, and what it showed us is that the guy is multi-faceted, clever, interesting and sincere. Square plates — love it! Serving out of aluminum — BFD! His father was a riot (reminded me of the comedian Gallagher with the hat and attached hair), his mother a sweetie, their relationship precious and the entire family dynamic one I yearned for as a kid.

    DDuh doesn’t come close to deserving the guy, which is just fine by me, since we FOL (Fans of Lincee) need to do what’s necessary to get Jesse hooked up with HER — forget DDuh.

    I can see it now, Jesse piggybacking Lincee off into the snowy sunset. Whoo-hoo!

  55. Changing my tune... Said,

    Best Line “Some adults do too. How much does a plane ticket to Colorado cost these days?
    I’m just saying”

    And loved the JEM reference…I’m 7 again :)

  56. shari2t17 Said,

    Used to live in CO & have been to Breck many times. There’s this great hat store downtown that we always have to go to & it wouldn’t surprise me at all if Jesse’s dad picked his up there. Just FYI …

    I loved the ending with DD crying about Graham leaving, cut to announcer “Next week on the Bachelorette,” cut to D screaming “wooooo hooooo!” Can’t remember if she was jet skiing with Jesse or sipping vanilla shakes with Jeremy on a boat, but it sure made it sound like she didn’t mourn for Graham very long.

    Still hope she doesn’t pick Jesse & they make him the next Bachelor. And sure, Lincee can be one of the bachelorettes. We probably wouldn’t get the great recaps, but the inside scoop six months later would be so worth it. . . .

  57. Joy Said,

    I LOVED THIS EPISODE! And your recap rocked! Right on Lincee!

    I can no longer make a choice on who she should pick. But that won’t stop me from offering up some thoughts. I personally think Jeremy may be the best choice for her. I think they would work long term. He is there and ready right now. She likes “perfection” and he offers that. MY choice would be Jason. I totally cried when he saw his son and then again when he had to say goodbye. I think he would also be a fine choice and he would commit to her 100%. But she might not be able to be so far from her family and split his attention.

    As for Jesse…. LOVE HIM. But not for her. I think she loves many things about him, but over time she would want to change him. She’d want to cut his hair. She would want him to get a more “grown up” job. She wants 3 kids in 4 years… and I don’t think he is there yet. So while he is a really cool guy, I just don’t think it would last with them. But man, the girl that does land him and keeps him will be lucky. Actually… I think a girl would be lucky with any of these guys. And I’ve never felt that way at the end of the Bachelor or Bachelorette! So… its safe to say I am loving this season.

  58. Julie Said,

    So Lincee I have to say that I was disappointed that you didn’t mention the glimpse we got of the ABC intern kicking the ball around with Ty right before Jason called out to him. That was a great moment watching the Intern trying to get out of the shot so we wouldn’t think it was staged and Ty just happened to be in that park with a ball.

    Sorry gang, not on Team Jesse for DD. I think he is a great guy and I love that he isn’t following the typically mold for how this show works. I just don’t see them together and I really think he is in the friend zone. I don’t think Graham was surprised he was sent packing based on the smug look on his face during the Rose Ceremony. I think the final two will be Jason and Jeremy. Who she picks from there I am not certain. I am leaning towards Jason because of the kid more than anything.

    As for her being in love, seriously…you don’t fall in love that fast anyway.

  59. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    OHCH and ABC if you are listening let Lincee be your twist on the next season of the Bachelor…..loved the mole in Jesse Palmer’s season.

    Because I am lame I looked up information on-line and Jesse actually owns 2 properties (a condo and a townhome in the Dillon/Breckenridge area).

    Lincee – I have his PO Box in Breckenridge and his home address in Amherst OH…..let me know if you want them. = )

  60. lisa Said,

    I wonder if they are going to bring Graham back???!!!

  61. AggieFan Said,

    #54, FOL…..love it! I will use it in the future!

    #55, You are the third or fourth person I’ve seen who went with “Jem dress” after the first person who misspelled it went with it….Lincee said “Gem dress”, as in pretty rocks called gems, because DeAnna’s dress was sparkly. Not picking on you; it’s just been bugging me that one person misspelled it and then a bunch of people kept misspelling it.

    And I agree with the couple of posters that have said this is THE BEST season yet. I am enjoying this train wreck more than any other season of the Bachelor or the Bachelorette thus far….although Byron’s proposal was the best ever…..he learned how to propose in Spanish so Mary’s mother would understand the words he was saying….how SWEET!

    And big props to all of the posters…you guys make my week. Lincee, you provide the humor we all need on Tuesdays and then everyone else’s comments keep me going the rest of the week. Thanks to all!

  62. sf Said,

    GREAT recap! Favorite line…”Now I’m stuck with those three in there!” Cracked me up. Graham deserved to go. He was cute, but he kinda made my skin crawl…something about his eyes and those episodes of silence. It was almost like he enjoyed keeping D off balance…entertaining for us, but not someone she should have kept in the game if she doesn’t want to get left standing at the Home Depot pedestal like she did last year. I love Jesse and his family, but I have a feeling DD will choose Jeremy, and yes, I do think they deserve each other.

  63. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    OHHHHH and nobody mentioned the picture of Graham from high school??????
    That was almost painful to look at!

  64. Tina Said,

    #61 — I thought Lincee was making a reference to that fantastic cartoon from back in the day – Jem and the Holograms, no?

  65. AggieFan Said,

    #64,
    Okay, I am eating crow, you are right….Lincee said “Jem”, I just read “Gem” and thought about the sparkly dress….sorry to all. ;o(

  66. Cat Said,

    Best yet Lincee! The rose ceremony section had me in tears while I ate my zone bar…I almost choked on it. You are truly gifted!

    Do you think ABC is faking us out about the forego card on Jesse’s overnight date? I’m thinkin they are… that he’s like “PSYCHE!” after he tells her has to wait to meet her dad.

  67. Cat Said,

    Oh and I feel so bad for the remaining 3 because she made it pretty frickin obvious she was only falling in love with Graham…

  68. Bachelor Fan Said,

    Ok, I have to say I have no idea who she is going to pick at this rate. I’m guessing nobody since they are having an “After the Final Rose Ceremony” special. So D can explain how different her choice of neither guy is NOTHING like what Brad did to her. Although the utube Ellen video someone posted (thanks) makes it seem like she did pick someone.

    Jesse doesn’t seem on board enough for her to be able to pop out 3 kids in the next 4 yrs.

    Jason is totally cute and I heart him, but I don’t know if D does. He is probably her best bet for the 3 kids business since he already has one though.

    Jeremy seems just right…for her. They have good body language and have their mom’s death in common (which seems really important to them). But his life seems so sterile!

    Good job editing, ABC!

  69. Elisa Said,

    Funniest line ever: “I pick Jesse, Jeremy and Jason. SUCK ON IT GRAHAM!”

  70. Lindsey Said,

    Yeah, those hometown dates were filmed at the end of April. Homeboy took the bar in Feb. As someone who has taken the bar and is currently studying for another, nobody leaves their notes all around their house. That stuff is burned the day after. Unless of course you want people to know that you are a big shot lawyer with a fancy condo and a Porsche. How in the world does unemployed, recent law school grad Jeremy actually even afford all of his fancy toys? He’s a bit douchey in my opinion…

  71. JustMe Said,

    Just a couple of questions….the motorcycle ride…was it just me, or did Downtown Dallas look completely deserted? I just wondered if he really only rode for the episode and they had to clear the streets? Just a thought.
    And who was the woman playing with Ty in the park? The intern? I thought at first it might be an aunt or family friend, but when Jason was reunited with him, she just disappeared to never be seen again. hmmmm

  72. Marti Said,

    Great recap, as always!!!!!! Lincee you are the best. I love the side comments you add. Like the little bubble of thoughts.

  73. lilicarp Said,

    I am a Jesse fan too- His last name is Csincsak. There is a lot more about him on his website-enjoy!!

  74. Dallasgrl Said,

    #70, I agree, that townhouse, which looked like it was either in Deep Ellum or Bryan Place had to be about $350K-$400K, I was wondering the same thing.

    #71 – They probably filmed it on the weekend or something.

  75. Sher Said,

    I love the random inserts of DD being left at the home depot pedestal throughout the recap…haha!

    K, my favorite lines from the recap:
    “Bring Mama an ice cube so I can rub it on my neck and put out this fire, honey.” HAHAHAHAHHA!!!

    “DDAHnna…hear her roar”…..snort!

    I was crying lauging at these parts: ”
    “I pick Jesse, Jeremy and Jason. SUCK ON IT GRAHAM!”
    “Graham laughs, high fives and makes his way up to DDAHnna.”
    ” I can’t take the chance that you wouldn’t choose me in return. Now I’m stuck with those three in there.
    DD begins a sever case of ugly crying before she walks him to the car.”

    #2, no, I loved Graham’s strokage of her palms!

    #70, maybe when is parents died, him and his brothers inherited some money? Maybe that’s how he has that nice condo.

    #71…downtown Dallas usually is pretty deserted if it’s not during the work day, i.e. nights and weekends.

  76. bach addict Said,

    74 – jeremy’s condo is listed on the dallas county appraisal site on commerce street. i’ll refrain from giving the street number & sell price though so he can have a bit of privacy (but Dallasgrl is in the neighborhood…lil bit high). since it’s public information though, you can look it up yourself.

  77. Nikki Said,

    DD made a huge mistake ditching Grrrraham before overnights. Two words DD: “Fantasy” and “Suite”. Add Graham to that, and you’re gnoshing a little slice of Heaven. You don’t have to pick the guy in the end, but, for Pete’s sake, take it to the suite. Fool.

  78. swirlyturtle Said,

    Sher #75 – Good point about the inheritance, I can’t believe I didn’t think of that.

    The other thing about Jeremy’s home versus Jesse’s is that real estate in Breck is wayyyy more expensive than Dallas. For all we know, their two homes could have cost the same thing.

    I have really enjoyed this season and have no idea who DD will pick. I think Jeremy is the best fit for her, but it doesn’t seem like she is as into him as he is into her.

    I have to say that I liked DeAnna a lot more this episode than in some of the other episodes. She seemed more real or something and handled herself very well with the families. The whole “America’s Sweetheart” thing is a stretch, but I appreciate a chick with spunk and she has it.

  79. Jill L Said,

    That was one of your best, sister!! Loved. It. You were pulling out some old school stuff like crazy – Jem!! Oh my granny, That was great. Spot on with everything.

  80. Jen Said,

    I’m sorry, but I really can’t enjoy Jesse with his hair like that. I need him to cut it. It just looks kinda greasy.

    He IS adorable though!

  81. CDC Said,

    OK…this has probably been mentioned several times before but since I don’t have time to scroll through all of the comments right now (but I will be doing so later on tonight for sure!)…I am going to say this anyway.

    What in the WORLD is she thinking saying she wants to have 3 kids by the time she is 30?? She is already 27 years old! Unless she is planning on having triplets, she is kidding herself!

    First of all, what is her hurry! I understand the whole “wanting to be a young” parent deal. But is it really going to matter is she is 35? I wouldn’t think so.

    Second of all, has she bothered to mention this to all of the remaining guys? I can imagine that a few of them would be running (and I mean at a full out sprint!) for the hills on that. Seeing as how by the time she proposes (or coerces one of them to propose to her)…she will have only known them for what 8 weeks? I would suggest making sure you actually want to be married to (and stay married to) that dude before you start having children. Because we all know that once you have a child with someone, there is no getting rid of them!

    So let me be sure I have this timeline down….in the next 3 years, DD is planning on 1) proposing/getting proposed to, 2) waiting until the finale airs so she can actually publicly be engaged to that person, 3) planning a wedding, 4)actually making to the wedding, and 5) getting pregnant right off the bat and having not one, but THREE children? I am understanding this chick correctly?

  82. CDC Said,

    One more thing (before I forget it!)….

    Did anyone else think it was strange when DD and Graham were at the high school and she was putting the jersey on, that she said, “oh, is that your last name?” One would think you might hold off falling in love with someone until AFTER you’ve actually found out his last name! For some reason, I am hearing that Carrie Underwood song “I don’t even know his last name….” in my head right now!

  83. The Original C$ Said,

    You see I can explain DD’s “spacing” on the Space Needle. In Georgia, we never got too immersed in “geography” or “landmarks”. When tickets for the Atlanta Olympics first went on sale, one of the local customer service reps wouldn’t sell any to a person calling from New Mexico because, and I quote; “We are not allowed to sell any tickets to people outside the United States as of yet.”

    And there’s your sign…

  84. Chickpea Said,

    Sigh. Lincee. Note to add to your disclaimer:
    If you are reading this in a place where silence is golden: STOP. Now. Do not read any further.
    Contents may cause you to laugh loudly, fall on the floor laughing, or perhaps spit out your drink. You
    have been warned.

    Oh dear, this one was so funny, and I was so in a place I shouldn’t have been LOLing… Thanx Lincee, as always. You rock.

  85. Maki Said,

    I’m predicting she doesn’t pick any of the remaining 3. He pulls a Womack.

    I bet Graham comes back somehow and they live “happily” ever after.

  86. Moxie Said,

    Poor DD…she seems like a nice enough girl. But it sure seems like every day is a BRAND NEW world for her. Let’s see:

    1. doesn’t know what the Space Needle is. That is like saying you don’t know what the Eiffel Tower is or The Grand Canyon, or The Golden Gate Bridge! Just because you haven’t been there, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist!

    2. To be someone who is dying to have 3 kids, she sure doesn’t seem to have spent very much time with any children! Not that its a bad thing. But who gives a child a golf ball for a gift? And then asks if he likes riding in a car? Its a car for crying out loud! How exciting can it be?

    3. She says, “oh, is that your last name?” to Graham. Uh…you might want to add that to you list of “things I must know BEFORE getting engaged to someone” or “things I probably SHOULD know before I shack up in a fantasy suite with someone”.

    4. She basically told Graham that all she wanted was for him to be the last one standing in the end. That is a little frightening if you want to know the truth. So basically, what she is saying is “I wanted you Graham but since you won’t conform to my needs/wishes/standards, I guess I will just have to fall in love with one of those other boys! Peace out!” Huh? Must be nice falling in and out of love so easily! Yikes!

    Bless her heart. She just seems like a total ditz! But a sweet ditz nonetheless!

  87. Juno Said,

    Unless they are both still single when they are 40, after about 15 years of therapy, she. is. not. living. happily ever after. with Graham. He may be deep, interior, quiet and all that other stuff but that wasn’t the problem – it wasn’t just that he couldn’t verbalize his feelings, he couldn’t even look her in the eye. The fact that he might open up at some unspecified date in the future isn’t good enough, if her goal is to get married while she can still have kids. So she hearted him – so what? Who hasn’t hearted someone that was just not available, for one reason or another? She’ll get over it, probably already has.

    And don’t underestimate Jesse in terms of maturity, income or persistence. You don’t get to be a competitive athlete in any sport by being a complete flake. You don’t buy a condo in Breckenridge in your 20s unless mummy & daddy give you an advance on your trust fund or unless you are very hard working and successful. We’ve met mummy and daddy now and I think we can safely say that it wasn’t a trust fund. He’s a serious, thoughtful, kind, spontaneous, wacky guy. What an amazing combo.

    I say again, Jeremy alphabetizes his spices and Jason lives too far away from D’s family and he ain’t moving. It’s got to be Jesse!

  88. Raves4Richard Said,

    #52 T: ITA, the minute the leapfrog started, I would think I had entered the twilight zone…

    About Jeremy, he races motorcycles, that is a hobby. I think he needs to cut loose a little with DD but other than that, he seems like a pretty cool guy. I’m just saying.

    Jesse is pretty cool too, but I think all the snowboarder lingo/image would get old after a while. Don’t think he is ready for marriage or kids.

    Jason is a sweetie, but that seems filled with complications…ex-wife, etc. Have they ever actually said he has full custody? I am wondering….if we all just assumed it… can anybody point me to the episode that he says that?

  89. Lorraine Said,

    Niki (#77) LOL!!!!! My thoughts exactly. “You don’t have to pick the guy in the end, but for Pete’s sake take it to the suite. Fool” Classic. Almost burst out laughing. Maybe that’s why she was crying so much after she put him in the car. She figured it out too late that she could have had her cake, and eat it to. No punn intended.

    And I second Chickpea’s addition to the disclaimer. I read this blog on my breaks at work, and have to try really hard not to laugh outloud.

  90. Chelsea (#2) Said,

    #25: Oh my gosh! I actually get it – D on A Bunn…. haha!

    Anyway, I DID NOT get to watch last night’s episode! I recorded it because I had to go to Dallas and I stayed at my sister’s. So, SUDDENLY my mom and sister (but not me) realize that it is 8:45 and the Bachelorette is on (we had been freaking all day that we wouldn’t get to see it and stupid us are sitting in a house with a television set RIGHT IN FRONT OF US!) So we turn it to ABC and my mom is like “The Rose Ceremony, let’s watch it!” and I scream “NO! It will ruin it!”

    So I hop off the couch with my pillow and as I’m leaving the room I hear her say Jesse and I actually feel my jaw hit the floor (considering I was going ONLY on what I saw last week, I thought Jesse would go). So I’m hooked and go back into the room and stand behind the couch with the pillow half-way covering my face because I can’t believe I’m watching the RC without watching the episode. Then she calls Jeremy and my eyes literally almost fall out of my head! Then… after a way too long dramatic pause… she calls Jason. I fell over! Could this really be the end of seeing Hottie Graham???

    I hop over the couch and watch the rest of the episode wandering “If he wrote her this letter, why didn’t he give it to her BEFORE the RC???” Anyway, my mother – being the extremely emotional person she is – has a few tears streak down her face as my other sister (who doesn’t watch the show) walks in. She literally laughs at my mom for crying over a show like The Bachelorette as my mom explains to her what happened. So I told my sister to go to Graham’s website so she could see his hotness (yes, I’ve already Googled him and know his website… yes, that is sad) and she goes but the site crashes. Apparently after the RC EVERYONE wanted to know about Graham Bunn.

    Now I have to wait until 10 tonight to watch the episode and I must admit I’m excited. Really GREAT recap Lincee!!!

    But now that Graham is gone, are we allowed to start petitioning that he be the next Bachelor (think about ladies – a whole ‘nother season of Shirtless.Hottie.Graham… mmm…)?

  91. D Said,

    Lincee, Your recap was awesome and had me laughing out loud… I’m tempted to start the low clap Jesse chant!
    #77- Totally agree. And laughing out loud!

  92. Chelsea (#2) Said,

    #88: I don’t know (about the full-custody thing)… I swore he said that his ex-wife had left to like go off and fulfill her dreams and like travel or she didn’t want to settle down. But I might be getting that mixed up with something else (like a movie or something). But like I said, I’m not sure but that’s what I thought.

  93. Raves4Richard Said,

    And the plot thickens….just found this:

    “The Men Tell All” — It’s an explosive reunion viewers won’t want to miss, as the most memorable bachelors from this season – including Graham, Richard, Fred, Twilley and Ron — return to confront each other and DeAnna one last time on national television to dish the dirt and tell their side of the story. And DeAnna reveals a shocking secret she’s been keeping all this time, on “The Bachelorette: The Men Tell All,” MONDAY, JUNE 30 (9:00-10:00 p.m., ET), on the ABC Television Network.

    What secret would that be…?

  94. s2c Said,

    Even though Jesse has my full attention now, I care for Jeremy more after last night, I was very close to my ex husbands mom, and several years ago, she passed away from cancer in our home with the family (and Hospice nurse) standing by. Listening to him read from his journal brought it all back and I can understand how it may have affected Jeremy’s personality. His description of his mom sounded like DeAnna to me – a strong woman etc, and he said he Needs her in his life, I think he would take it very hard if she rejects him, and if they end up together, I hope he wont be too clingy and afraid of losing her; as his brother told him, the last one ‘who broke your heart was Mom’

  95. bach addict Said,

    # 93 – Raves4Richard – She’s carrying Brad’s child??? She’s going to reveal she’s really a bartender? Virgin? I’ve got no clue. You think Twilley’s a friend? She kisses everyone else. There was one season where there was a gal in the running to watch everyone and give feedback. Just saying… Side note: When dating my husband, I had a theory that either he or I would be on the show & the other would be a contestant. Then we could secretly get a free ring & wedding. :O) One year for his birthday, he was convinced that I submitted him for the show…what was he thinking? HA! But seriously, it’s not far fetched. She’s got an insider & it’s either Twilley, Ron or Jesse.

  96. bach addict Said,

    follow up on my last comment, it can’t be jesse. sorry.

  97. spring Said,

    Jem was a great gold nugget…such a blast from the past.

    I am from GA and I just want to go on record and say that some of us down here DO know our geography.

    Below I copied in some comments from the other post (the pre-recap post). I think they are getting at something here. The whole thing with Graham was so weird. She dumps him and then she practically yells at him. She is so mad! He looks so uncomfortable. It was sad. It was also really noticable that OHCH didn’t give us any warning as to the fact that this was the “most dramatic rose ceremony ever” because it kind of was! I really felt sorry for both of them, but I did get the feeling that we weren’t getting the whole picture.

    Read the previous comments below and see what you think:

    {I hope some more info will come out on this whole situation so we can know what happened! Here’s a couple of theories I’ve read saying that he asked to leave the show which kind of fits in with what you said:

    “I think maybe Graham asked to leave the show, but didn’t want to embarrass Deanna so maybe he asked her to not give him a rose. Maybe that is why she was so mad right before handing them out because she didn’t speak (thank anybody as usual). She got really mad at him for just standing there, smiling and swaying. I don’t get the whole note thing though, except for the fact that he was explaining why he wanted to leave the show and apologized.”

    “I really think he showed up that night of the ceremony with the note and wasn’t planning to go on – reason for grungy jeans. They threw on the coat and sweater to make him presentable and she knew what was going on – that he wanted out. That explains why she was so mad and why he looked away and figeted. Then she also said something to the effect that she wouldn’t ever see him again – this was the “end”. It seemed like she wanted him to change his mind. Well, I think the other guys probably knew that night too what happened – reason no scene with them after toasting. So they just went through the motions to end the show.”}

    for what it is worth…I don’t think that she picks anyone. She hasn’t mentioned the end really at all and neither has ABC.

  98. a Said,

    Aren’t there any nice girls in Seattle Jason could meet and date so he would not have to leave his son and go on national television to compete with other men for one girl where the odds are very much against you? When you have a child, I don’t think leaving him to go on a dating show and then putting him on the dating show is the best idea for the child. That wouldn’t be what I would want to remember about my childhood. While I’m sure he is a nice person and great father who loves his son, I frankly just don’t understand this particular decision at all. I’m trying not to allow this confusion to cloud what I think of him on the show. I think he did mention something about his ex-wife taking off…poor Ty needs some stability, which furthers my confusion about this decision. I understand taking a vacation or needing to get away….I’m sure being a single parent is quite difficult….but “getting away” by going on national television and having your dating life recorded does not make any sense to me…but to each his own.

  99. MissingMeeps Said,

    I couldn’t help but think that the tears for Graham were about his rejecting her (touching that sore spot)…and what she hoped she could have with him; NOT what she REALLY had. She didn’t like what she really had, the arguing, the trying to make him comfortable, trying to get him to be more like Jeremy. (Sorry couldn’t resist!)

    I give her kudos for realizing that it just wouldn’t make her happy to be with Graham.

  100. MissingMeeps Said,

    #95 Bach addict, love the theories! lol I hate to get too excited, since our ideas are usually so much more creative than ABC’s “so called reality”!

  101. Angela W Said,

    I don’t have time to read all of the amazing comments, so I’m just going to say mine.

    Amazing recap as always Lincee! I loved how you kept reminding us of DD’s fate on the Bachelor.

    I LOVE JESSE!!! He’s awesome, love that he might not do the forgo card next week. Its nice to see someone still has some class. DD does not deserve him…I’m just saying.

    Jeremy is so boring…

    Jason…eh, he’s just okay.

    Glad Graham finally got the boot.

    Honestly, who has never heard of the Space Needle? She must have been living under a rock all her life…that was dumb, she lost major points in my book for not knowing that the gigantic thing in front of her was the space needle…seriously…

  102. Kathy Said,

    Lincee, AWESOME recap.

    Jeremy is SUCH a pretentious Dallas douchebag; seriously, the PRISTINE condo with the anal-retentive closet and then leaving his bar notes up in the bedroom? Who would keep that crap up in their bedroom of all places AFTER the Bar was over? He and DD deserve each other.

    I hope she doesn’t pick Jesse – he is a FIND and totally too good for DD.

    She is coming off more and more desperate and psycho each week. 3 kids by 30! Blink Blink! It MUST happen!

  103. addy Said,

    I love Jesse, but I really don’t think they would be happy being married. They’re too different – she would get annoyed with his being so laid back, and she’s much too prissy for him to be with in the long run. Which makes me sad, because poor sweet Jesse is so awesome.

    I think she’ll end up with Jeremy – he’s ready for marriage, he has an unattached life (relatively) and they have the mother connection. Douchebaggy as be may be, I don’t really think she’d fit with anyone else.

  104. sleep deprived mom Said,

    Another great Lincee recap! One of my favorite lines: “Nothing says “nice to meet you kid” like a Titleist.”

    I sure hope she hits it off with one of the other guys.

  105. Suzie Said,

    I guess I am one of the few that really likes Jeremy. I think he is sweet and sensitive and really into her, not to mention he has a killer body! :) Sure he looks “vanilla” on the show, but we all know by now just how effective editing can be in swaying our opinion one way or the other. I think Jesse’s a great guy but more friend material. Love Jason, but I don’t think he’s right for her. I’m for Jeremy all the way!

    Oh, and I loved the Jem reference, too – freaking hilarious.

  106. just sayin Said,

    she’s totally pickin graham… i don’t know how they will make it happen – but i believe it will… HOW can she pick one of the other dudes when she hearts g-bag.

  107. mothercita Said,

    Does anyone else think that Germy’s sweet dog’s name, “Chemo”, is just a tad morbid?

  108. KoKo in Mo City Said,

    The golf ball was not weird or off putting or strange.

    Does no ome remember that Ty plays golf. It was featured in the introduction during the first episode. The episode I fell for Jason. He is a tad bit clingy but it seems his ex-wife stomped his heart and shredded it in a meat grinder!!!! I HEART JASON & TY!!! The cutest 3 year old on TV!!!!

    As for the meal at Jesse’s….people have you never cooked a meal and transported it all in aluminum bins!!! Y’all ave got to get out more. It is totally no fuss clean up. He told you his parents struggled financially. Jesse may just be from the hood.

    I stil choose Jason…I believe Ellen Degeneres told her pick him too. I watched the Memorial Day episode of ellen and DDanna told her she was always right when E said she would pick Jason.

    Graham was weird…hit the bricks, dude!!! He is too good looking, like a playa from the Himalayas!! That’s why he was relieved. He is just like we been saying about the girls all along… he wanted exposure for his charity (or he would not have mentioned it on the 1st or 2nd night). J-Dog (Jesse) never mentioned his charity until last night – cool..

    BUT JASON is MY PICK!!!! I’ll even risk frizzy Sister-girlfriend hair for that young cutey pie!!!

  109. swirlyturtle Said,

    #107 – I’m guessing the dog’s name is actually spelled “Kemo”, short for “Kemosabe” which is a native american word for friend.

  110. Lizzie Said,

    Jem is “EXCITEMENT”: http://youtube.com/watch?v=20BZID081Vk

    Oh, the memories. Thanks, Lincee!!!

  111. Tiff Said,

    I thought we were getting a monkey update from Shayne and Matty? Lincee, any word on that front? I saw that he moved out, but apparently they’re still together. I’m gonna need another Bachelor success story soon, especially after watching VH1’s marathons of Bob, Jesse and Byron in a row on my tivo! I <3 Tivo!!

  112. Kristin Said,

    Am I the only one who JUST saw Jesse on MTV’s MADE? Where’ve I been?

  113. MagicDance Said,

    #102 – anal-retentive closet….seriously! i was watching with a friend and our mouths literally fell open when Jeremy revealed his OCD behind the closet door.

    And did i miss something or did DD and graham’s family not have dinner at the hometown date?? it was like they were there for 15 min. and then went outside and sat on that bench.

  114. Kristen Said,

    I remember from one of the first shows Jason saying that his ex decided to “go another way” Not sure what the heck that means?? Who leaves those two behind? Ridiculous. Seriously.

  115. mothercita Said,

    Thanks, #109. I kinda wondered the same thing. Guess the spelling/grammar police let that one get away!

  116. Smiley20 Said,

    #50 – I am from Mississippi, “the dumbest state in the nation,” and I know what the Space Needle is! I was appalled that DD didn’t know! I mean, come on!

    And…for the questiion I posted last night…do they have to sign something saying that they will never date someone they’ve “kicked off” the show…like, can DD ever date Graham again if it didn’t work out with the others?

    I agree with a lot of you…I don’t think she deserves Jesse or Jason. She and Jeremy seem to be deserving of one another and I feel like she will choose him.

  117. lisa Said,

    All righty…I adore this blog and Lincee, she is IT! I have a couple things to say:

    Graham’s mother said it all. Nothing more to say. He is stand-offish, so be it, his mother all but said that.

    Jesse is a nice guy. He, his folks and DD don’t match. If she picks him I will be shocked.

    Jeremy, oh LORD…they are a match, but not for life.

    Jason, he is a Jew, his folks are Jewish. She will never become Jewish, she is Greek, which is HUGE, and so is Jewish, so let’s see that combine.

    Out of the three J’s…she will pick Jeremy, for the “perfect” life but it won’t be THAT perfect. For those of you asking about his condo…it is $369, 910 on the Dallas Apprasial market.

  118. ann helms Said,

    Well done LIncee – deep and provoking thoughts about this show that enlightens us about love and how to find it – or something like that. In any case, it’s fun to watch and as much fun to read blogs such as yours. Your honesty is so appreciated!! Don’t know if I’m on Team Jesse – but, I found him a little more attractive and masculine and deeper than I thought he was. But, can’t see DD living in Breckenridge or in his world for long. She’d be running the show just out of sheer boredom. Of course, she plays it up for the camera so to keep us watching and guessing. Jeremy is verrrrrrry organized but seems to be bored with himself and his perfect world — he needs a litttle Southern spunk to liven things up —- and maybe DeAnna’s just the one to bring some life to his very dull townhouse. She needs to redecorate – please –that furniture – Swedish style — so dull – no color or interest. It just may be how Jeremy’s feeling inside after losing his mother – colorless and dull emotionally. I think,though, that they could be a good pair – he has so much maturity and stability and a good head on his shoulders — to the point where DeAnna stops the control bit and seems to just let him lead –she respects him as a man, not a boy. And, maybe she needs that – someone that she can’t control. Graham is just not the ticket —he’s a boy and still in high school emotionally. He doesn’t want to commit to a flea — he’s a late bloomer and may stay that way – and would make DD nutcakes after awhile. Then there’s Jason —just too sweet and gushy. Can’t believe he was jumping up and down when he saw her — be cool for once —his 3-year-old son would do that when seeing his dad. Can’t see them together except on camera. But, truly, a nice person and will be a lucky girl to find him.
    Good luck with the T-shirts and contributions to his cause!!!

  119. Jessica Said,

    Cool blog. Can someone fill me in on what DDAHnna means… I know I’m lame…

  120. Kat Said,

    I personally like all the guys for different reasons but probably none of them would be a great fit for DD, but totally agree that Jesse is pretty great (MUCH better than I initially thought) and Jason is just too sweet for words. The only thing I will say is that the closest fit is probably Jeremy since he is totally into her and willing to commit. I think if she’s smart, she’d pick him. However, if you watched all the promos for the upcoming season you’d have seen what looks to me like the back of Jeremy’s head and her telling him that she had to let him go before he fell even more in love with her. Not sure if that was creative editing, but it really looks like him and not any of the others and that scene still hasn’t played out on any episode. I tend to watch for these clues all along and so far none have been misleading. Also, when asked about Jeremy on that “DeAnna tells all” show the way she said that all of her family and friends think she should pick Jeremy because he’s so perfect tells me she probably doesn’t pick him. Maybe ABC has fooled me; we’ll see.

    Amazing recaps as always…love the excuse to laugh out loud!!

  121. kerry Said,

    Love the blog – always, and just watched the show on-line. Jesse – new fantasy for me: snowboarding piggyback on a hot dude down the slopes! His parents: fantastic, loved them! Jeremy – I respect where he comes from and what he’s accomplished. And I cried. Jason, respect his family and the utter devotion to his son – cried again. Actually, was a teary mess for this episode. Grahame – odd bird still. And just not that into it. I will say, I have immense respect for all of the families that were on this episode – they seemed heartfelt and sincere. This show and this blog, addictive!

  122. MissingMeeps Said,

    #107 – I think Jeremy’s dog is Kemo – like the Lone Ranger’s pal…sorry I don’t know how to spell Kemo-sabe?!

  123. MissingMeeps Said,

    #119 I think you may be right, when she says all my family thinks I should pick Jeremy… I thought, oh, noooo! They are so right, tell me you listened DD!!

    Random stuff I noticed:

    Jesse has a small refrigerator in his bedroom….and a freakin’ huge tv like 12 feet away from the bed! Jesse told his father…”my heart beats when I am around her”. Jesse we would be seriously upset if it wasn’t! He looked terrified when he talked about the future with DD.

    Did anyone notice that Jeremy’s dinner was Mexican food… DD’s favorite food!
    Did you guys notice the baseball bat in Jeremy’s living room, his brother was holding it??

    Did anyone else notice how Jason is always asking DD….what are you thinking about xxx, what are you worried about….so far this season it must be like 6 times!

  124. MissingMeeps Said,

    I totally see a love story between DD and Jeremy, they were so snuggled into each other in front of the fire, and that kiss, really chemistry! I sure hope you detectives are wrong!

    Don’t get me wrong, I really think DD cares for Jason too, and he is cute as can be. But it was the father idea that she really loved. We women are suckers for that – watching a man with a child he truly loves. If she picks him, it is because of Ty!

  125. Santorini Said,

    Lincee, you rock! Can’t wait for the fantasy suite episode. On the previews for next week, why didn’t they show Jeremy’s reaction to the forego card? They showed Jason accept and Jesse say he’d have to meet her dad, but what about Jeremy? Did I miss it? Also, I can’t WAIT to hear what DD’s big secret is.

  126. MissingMeeps Said,

    #124 Santorini, They did not show Jeremy’s reaction! I so do not want DD to break his heart! He seems to be the most vulnerable. Some people say he is too perfect, sure his house is spotless, and the ABC intern insisted on hanging his bar exam notes on the wall. (So says one of Jeremy’s friends about his notes.)

    My boyfriend’s house was spotless when I came over too. Now, that we are married NOT so much! It is called dating.

  127. Sher Said,

    #77 Nikki – “Add Graham to that, and you’re gnoshing a little slice of Heaven.” Haha! Exactly!

    #90 Chelsea (#2) – I will sign that petition! Maybe we can get a bazillion signatures via email and have Lincee send it to OHCH.

    #93 Raves4Richard – Deanna reveals she’s really a man??

    #107 mothercita – I didn’t even get the Chemo dog name until your post…maybe it is because his mom had cancer?

    #120 kerry – this blog is definitely addictive! Everytime I come home, I hit the laptop and see how many more comments have been posted while I was gone and am always excited to see there’s a ton!

    Some varying comments about Jeremy on that abovethelaw.com article that talks about him being on the show:

    “Okay, I havent commented on these before, but I decided to go ahead on this one.
    I nominated Jeremy for the show. (I thought he would have made a better Bachelor than Bachelorette contestant… but oh well). He really is such an amazing person – very sweet, super attractive, really smart guy. He has only good things to say about Hunton, and he has lots of options right now with firms. I clerked with him during his first half clerkship last summer (but in a different office), and really the only thing wrong with him was that he worked too hard! He didn’t let himself have time for a relationship. I think the Bachelorette is great for him! I dont understand why so many people are being so rude!”

    “Hate to ruin it for those who love Jeremy, but I happen to know from personal experience that he’s not all that nice! He dated my best friend, and was a complete jerk. Makes me sick watching him act like such an angel…don’t buy it ladies, he’s there for the money alone and the contestants on this show get paid A LOT to be there! I know for a fact he has tried to date my friend again since returning from the show, so if he is the last man standing, he’s an even bigger jerk than I thought. If there is any truth to this show whatsoever, my vote would be on Jason who seems the most real.” Do they really get paid??

    Here’s that same article about Jeremy that has been posted before, but this one has 4 comments…two of them say his dad died from diabetes….Someone before posted that it was heart failure. http://www.topix.com/city/trinity-tx/2008/06/former-trinity-man-takes-part-in-the-bachelorette

    Recap of Graham on last night’s show from some website for his college, Appalachian State: http://www.appfan.com/blog/?p=1102

    This link from FORT has a few pics of Graham..supposedly from his facebook page. Apparently it’s not on there anymore: http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/bachelorette-spoilers-speculation/74721-graham-spoilers-9.html

  128. Randee Said,

    116 Lisa: I had wondered about Jason (where did you find the info, I have had that gut feeling all along)…now he is ALL MINE GIRLS, ALL MINE!!!!!

  129. Humble Said,

    #126 Randee – it’s on his theknot.com wedding website. his ceremony had jewish traditions.

  130. Wife Dude Said,

    #122 MissingMeeps–I saw the bat, too. I thought maybe he was channeling Tom Cruise’s character in “A Few Good Men.” That, or he was ready to bash the blink right out of DD.

  131. bach addict Said,

    I’ve got two conspiracy theories re: the shocking secret. Jesse was the friend…wow, you dressed up…to pull the guys out of their shell and be themselves. she then fell for him. oops. Or Graham, perhaps they knew or dated before. Another thing… Did the bench outside the rose ceremony happen before the rose ceremony & he had to attend & then she escorted him out to the limo??? He may have asked to leave for present circumstances and resume dating when the show ended. She said “if you leave…” She then hastily walks into the ceremony after drying her eyes. Or I could be completely wrong. She was scared & cut him…then she realized after he gave her the card, she was dumb. He could have opened up finally, finally he became so invested and needed to share with her and it not be on camera.

  132. Legallyblondemel Said,

    First and foremost, thank you for the almost entirely gratuitous McDreamy photo. Far more effective than my latte in perking up the morning.

    Second, as much as I’m partly on Team Jesse – love the hilarity and sincerity, but otherwise too young for my taste – DD just isn’t attracted to him. And as much as I get uncomfortable watching the smooching on this show, Jesse’s long-awaited performance looked pretty A+. What a dark horse, but I do think she just isn’t that into him.

    Third, as a lawyer-type, that Bar notes left all over the house is sadly normal. I still am on Team Jeremy to make it to the final 2, vanilla or not. The “perfect” & hawtness (LOVE the freckles) will carry him through.

    Fourth, Lincee hit the nail on the head with DD – as much as she wants kids, she isn’t really comfortable with them. I also don’t see chemistry here, but with DD wanting a family so badly, I say Jason makes it to the Final 2.

    Fab episode & recap!

  133. bach addict Said,

    let me correct myself on my last post… deanna said “when you leave.” he could have orchestrated to speak with someone off air – they don’t tap cell phones…it’s ABC. she may have been letting him know the rules. i still say there was a family obligation he had to tend to, but wanted to continue being with her…

  134. Breckskibum Said,

    #45 Carolina… Snowboarders that share a house aren’t “professional snowboarders”, they are board bums, they work on the mountain or in town and smoke the mary jane like it is going out of style. They even have a group for themselves…Colorado = Republic of Shred… and of course they don’t make money because they work for minimum wage and spend their money on booze and weed.
    But those, like our Jesse, who compete, can make bank, and that is proven by the some of the competing boarders who have purchased large homes in Breckenridge and the surrounding Summit County areas. Jesse is obviously a smart cookie if he can buy two properites – one to live in and one to invest in as a vacation rental.

  135. Joy Said,

    I really think Jeremy has the most to lose if she sends him packing. He is totally invested and it sounds like he’s kind of wrapped up in “work” or whatever and hasn’t had time for a relationship. I just think they will work the best long term…

    But I really have no idea whats going to happen. I am DYING to know her “secret”!!!

  136. Nancy Said,

    FYI #117
    Referring to someone as a “Jew” is considered offensive. Jewish is the appropriate word.

  137. IheartJesse Said,

    I think her big secret was that she had a spy…perhaps it was Twilley?? Would make sense as to why he stuck around for so long. She didn’t want to risk getting dumped at the Home Depot pedestal again…so she has a spy to scope out all the guys and what they are saying about her.

  138. TxAggie Said,

    Well I was thinking about learning to snowboard before but now I will definitely be heading to A Basin to take lessons from Jesse! He is such a cutie!

    And I hope her “secret” is something scandalous and not stupid…maybe she’s pregnant with Hottie Than Crap Brad’s baby or maybe she’s already marriedwhoever she picks (if anyone, I’m still convinced she’ll pull a Brad)! It’s probably just something silly and they’re trying to play up the drama.

    I’ve loved Jeremy since day 1…even if he seems boring…he is still easy on the eyes and seems like such a sweet guy (that’s pretty rare in Dallas)!

    I’m not on team anyone yet…I think she is crazy and is just in love with the idea of getting married. Probably better for all of them if she doesn’t pick anyone.

    GREAT recap Lincee!!

  139. Joy Said,

    good call #138…. “just in love with the idea of getting married.” I have many friends that went through that. I was called the starter marriage. I hope thats not the case. I would not wish that on anyone!

  140. TxAggie Said,

    *Hotter Than Crap Brad…oops!

  141. Megan Said,

    Couple things…

    Did anyone else love when Jesse called himself out at dinner for not kissing DD!! I thought that was hilarious!

    Also, a friend of mine was in Vegas for work last week and ran into Jeremy at a club. Jeremy hung out with their work group for a couple of hours. One of the girls in the group was begging Jeremy for some inside scoop and all he would say is that we would be very suprised by the ending. Interesting….

  142. TxAggie Said,

    #141 – Does that mean Jeremy is around until the end since he knows what happens? I get so confused if they all know what happens once they get booted or do they have to watch it on tv like the rest of us?

  143. Atty Said,

    For what it’s worth, I’ll also chime in and say that I don’t think there is anything all that unusual about Jeremy still having his bar review notes up. It can take 3-5 months for the results to be released after you take the bar, so I know I personally kept all my study materials sitting in their box in my living room until after I found out that I had passed, just in case I might need them again!

  144. Longtimefan Said,

    #141 Megan, what did she say he was like? Was he flirting alot, etc?

    I can see DD having a mole or spy, especially after “what she went thru with Brad” etc, etc, but don’t see how it could be Jesse. Where would she have known him before, he’s in Col., she’s in GA, completely diff. lifestyles, etc. Now Twilley I can see. That’s a fun angle to consider.

  145. carrielovesfred Said,

    #142 – Jeremy must be around for VERY end (or she ends the show early, breaks up with them all and runs after Graham), because remember last season when Brad didn’t pick DeAHnna, Jenni didn’t know until the show aired. She thought he had picked DeAHnna the whole time.

  146. Sher Said,

    #141 Megan – that IS interesting.

    #133 bach addict – if that is the case, that he had to leave bc of a family obligation he had to tend to, but wanted to continue being with her, well that sux for her, bc really, what can you do? He was the one she liked the best, but you know Fleiss and company aren’t going to have their precious show ruined. Think about it,,,the producers probably aren’t going to halt the show to wait for him, so then she just has to continue on with the other three for the show’s sake, knowing she really wants the one that can’t be there??? SUCKY!

  147. AggieFan Said,

    Here’s my guess as to what happens….

    Somewhere I read or heard that, and I loosely quote, “the rose ceremony that ended it all”….so I think she goes on the overnight dates and when it comes down to the rose ceremony where she is supposed to eliminate one of them she tells all of them that she just can’t pick any of them and doesn’t want to lead them on the way she was led on. Graham came back (like the crazy girl on Jesse-football player’s season) and DeAnna just knew she had to be with him and that it would be unfair to be with any of the remaining three. So she picks Graham in the end! I’ll bet a dollar on that ending…..just from the snippet “the rose ceremony that ended it all”…..

  148. TxAggie Said,

    #145 – That’s what I thought, that whoever wasn’t picked had to wait until the show aired to see what really happened!

    Now I really believe that she won’t choose any of them and will go running back to Graham…or Brad again.

    Someone should replay her the episode from the beginning of this season when she talks about how this show really works. Joke’s on her.

  149. J-Dizzle Said,

    I would love it if Graham came back! But you’d think ABC would be advertising some big dramatic ending if that did happen. I predict a boring ending :(

    #136 Nancy: is “Jew” really considered offensive nowadays? I must be behind on my PC lingo…

  150. Megan Said,

    Apparently Jeremy was there with a group of (large chested) girls. Leads me to believe DD does not choose Jeremy in the end. If she did, shouldn’t they be spending some secret quiet nights in, rather than partying it up in Vegas??? My friend (a guy) said he seemed pretty cool though.

  151. bach addict Said,

    #148 TxAggie – Don’t they know the final two always on the the “tell all” episodes… If that was filmed last weekend, then it’s possible they know the final two already. The final one though…well I guess they could take a stab at guessing & wouldn’t it be obvious. I’ll laugh in the face of anyone that says guys don’t talk as much as girls do. The last thing the rejected is going to do is call the “chosen” (even if not) and congratulate he/she on being picked after they were rejected. I’m certainly not going to congratulate someone for getting the man I fell in love with, but sure beat my rear in basketball I’ll say congrats. As Twilley said, they are able to talk about their “experience.”

  152. MissingMeeps Said,

    #150 Megan: I think anywhere Jeremy goes in the future there will be plenty of girls trying to get his attention, both large chested and otherwise! Actually you could say that for most of the guys!

  153. MissingMeeps Said,

    #127 Sher: No they don’t get paid, several bachelors and bachelorettes have posted after the show. They do not get paid. Just “exposure” good or bad!

  154. Emily Said,

    Sorry to be the spoiler on the Twilley theory…but he went to SMU here in Dallas and in the same fraternity as my husband. Two friends (a married couple) put him up to it. I don’t think he was there as a spy. :( Sorry!

  155. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    I don’t think Graham’s big moment was filmed before the rose ceremony because she tore into him for upsetting her by laughing it up and high-fiving the other guys (which happened during the ceremony).

    Also, I watched the Ellen clip. Ellen said that she thought that the “one with the kid” should be the one she picked and if she didn’t pick him that he should be the next Bachelor and that is when DD said “you are always right”. So it could have meant he was the one she SHOULD have picked, he was the one she DID pick or that he should be the next Bachelor.

  156. Allison Said,

    All I can say is I HEART JESSE and have since day one. I don’t understand the attraction to Graham. I don’t think he is that cute but maybe it is because I think he is a total D-Bag!!!! I am dying to see what happens in the end. I agree that she pulls a Brad…….

  157. TxAggie Said,

    #151 – Well I know the tell all shows are shown before the finale airs (typically) so you always know who the final two are, but if Jeremy thinks everyone will be surprised by the ending, doesn’t that hint that he has to know how it ends? Meaning he would have to (in theory) be the last man standing to know how it truly ends? As someone mentioned earlier with HTC Brad’s season…Jenny didn’t know what happened with DDH and Brad until the show aired.

    But it could be that he is good enough friends with the other guys on the show to have talked to them and see how it all turned out if she didn’t end up choosing him.

    A mystery we will have to wait another few days to figure out! Unless there is someone out there with inside information that wants to share!

  158. bach addict Said,

    #157 – guess we’ll have to wait. my brain goes CIA on these kind of things. i come up with some weird ideas. do the guys see the previews for the final two? i don’t remember. which then could mean something. jeremy has his head in his hands and is pacing back and forth in previews so i’m not quite sure how to take that. he definitely wouldn’t be the F1 though.

    on another note, the abc website shows pictures of a smiling deanna toasting with the remaining three. editing is key…

  159. LM Said,

    Jason and Jeremy, although both are great guys, they both came off as a little desperate last night.
    I wonder how long it’s been since Jeremy’s mom died. It seems like it is still extremely raw for him. On the “Deanna tells all episode”, they showed him working and he said himself that he works late every night. He “needs” DD so that she can hang out in his house so he won’t be alone, but I can’t imagine he’d have time to do anything else with her!
    Jason seemed a bit “stalkerish” with the jumping up and down like a little kid when she walked up, and the creepy way he asked his sown about the “pretty lady” he went to see.
    Jesse has been my fave for a while now, although I agree that he and DD don’t totally match up. Although, he’s the most adventurous, which is what she seems to go for. I bet he owns that place but rents it out when he goes on snowboarding tours or whatever… thus the need for all of the cabinet labeling. He seemed pretty jokey about it when she noticed it. He’s definitely the one guy left who’s head is NOT in the clouds.

  160. LM Said,

    Oops… that’s “son”, not “sown”…

  161. Texas Aggie Said,

    Rumor has it Jeremy was in Houston (where the married brother lives) last weekend job hunting….and collecting massive amounts of phone numbers from groupies……

  162. TxAggie Said,

    So I just re-watched the entire season preview on youtube and there is a definitely a scene with DDH in a greenish dress next to a home depot pedestal that looks a lot like a finale episode. Interesting.

  163. bach addict Said,

    #161 – That’s what I heard.

    Another quotable: “…Stepmom…and I very well could be in a few weeks.” I think she said this at a different time by the clothes. If not forgive me, I’m remembering a different quote about Jason in which she has the yellow shirt on from the exotic date. She does realize that choosing a guy doesn’t make her married right???

  164. LM Said,

    OMG! This is off the subject of last night’s episode, but did you know that the name of SP Ron’s barbershop is called… Soul Patch??? LOL!!

    http://www.examiner.com/x-348-Denver-Celebrity-Examiner~y2008m5d15-Two-Local-Dudes-Compete-for-Bachelorettes-Heart

  165. KT Said,

    Jesse is the coolest guy on here and if she doesn’t take him, I will! He’s just up the mountain from me anyway :-)

    Jason and Ty totally melted my heart and I cried at my computer while watching this at work. But D seriously doesn’t look like she’s ever been around kids before.

    Graham is totally a middle schooler “here, I don’t want to be embarrassed in front of all these people so here read this note I wrote you before English class and WB soon -k-!” I am glad he’s gone, yeah he’s smokin’ hott but also a serious idiot and I am sure he regrets not being a grown up about all of this.

    Jeremy, I am not a fan at all. Send him packing D!

    Seriously the best episode in awhile! Lincee, great recap, you rock!!!!!

  166. D Said,

    I agree with the theories that she doesn’t pick any of them b/c we never see any previews of her family or the last two.
    Maybe Brad sees her on the show and decides he wants her back!
    GO DRAMA!

  167. JH Said,

    First of all, love the recap.

    Second, I am on team Jesse

    Third, does anyway else find it a bit interesting that DD’s listed career from hotter than crap Brad’s season was a realtor, and now she is interested in Jeremy, a real estate attorney?

    I am just saying the girl knows what he has in the bank. To me, he seems borderline desperate.

  168. GinV Said,

    I’m ambivalent about Jesse for DD, though he seems adorable, but wonder if she thinking about it b/c there might be a little magic in picking another Colorado mountain man – if it worked for Trista, maybe it will work for her….

  169. Tina Said,

    #163 — since DD is in such a hurry to get married and procreate, i predict that, coincidentally, there will just happen to be a minister on site during the finale. she will profess her “love”, propose, he will accept, and then lookie here…this lil’ minister can just marry us on the spot.

    this would kick start her “3 kids in 3 years” plan… :O)

  170. Tracy Said,

    OhMyGoodness! If I had been the bachelorette this season, I would have sent Jesse home the first night. I could not get over that jacket and pink shoelaces on the sneakers – or the way he jumped on the couch in between D and some other guy at one point. The hair….yuck! Well, that just goes to show you that first impressions aren’t all they are cracked up to be! If I wasnt married, I would already be planning my move to CO! OMG! I think he is so hot now! Really! Yes, I said, “hot!”

    I admit, he did seem nice even day one but I guess I would have been too shallow to see past the crazy clothes/hair, etc…Would have been my loss totally! Then there was the push up contest. Mmmm- mmmm! I loved him on the ATV’s – so cute and fun but also manly/capable. Mmmmm, gotta love a capable manly, man! This last episode just did me in, though. Can I just say, “Mmmmm-mmmmmmmmmmm” again?! Mmmmm-mmm!

    It was the hair (without product) blowing in the wind (though, I admit, I’d probably try to get him to cut it, too – sorry). It was seeing him in his element and yes, might I just say how CAPABLE he was on that board?! Woooow! Man! (can you see me drooling?!) Even capable while he had Dd on his back?!Mmm-mmmmmmmmmmm! But then when we add to that this sweet, sweet guy who cares about when he first kisses me – uh, I mean Dd! Did you hear him say that kissing is important to him? Mmmmmmm.
    And his palms get sweaty – but they never have before – loved that! I loved his parents, too!!! I also loved it when he picked up Dd and threw her into the pool on a previous episode. Mmmmm – strong and confident. Mmmmmmmmm.
    #87, Juno – I’m with you when you say:
    And don’t underestimate Jesse in terms of maturity, income or persistence. You don’t get to be a competitive athlete in any sport by being a complete flake. You don’t buy a condo in Breckenridge in your 20s unless mummy & daddy give you an advance on your trust fund or unless you are very hard working and successful. We’ve met mummy and daddy now and I think we can safely say that it wasn’t a trust fund. He’s a serious, thoughtful, kind, spontaneous, wacky guy. What an amazing combo.

    Okay – I’m going to take a shower now but first I just have to say that I also love Jeremy. He doesn’t exactly make me feel the way Jesse did Monday but I have always thought he was very attractive and capable (hey, he passed the bar exam, he races motorcycles and did you see the way he hit those balls out of the ball park?! yum, yum, yum) – not to mention I love a guy who loves his mother. I have never thought he was vanilla. I think he was really hurt by the death of his parents and he probably dove into his studies and his work (and organizing his closet) as a way of coping. So much better than drugs and alcohol, if you ask me. I think he’s the best pick for DD – even though – yes…I love Jason, too! :-) I can’t help it! They are all great guys!

    I was not particularly turned on my Jason’s jumping up and down but it was a bit cute/boyish. I could deal with that. What I did love about Jason’s date w/DD is that HE did not ridicule her in any way for not knowing about the Space Needle. No, “Are you kidding?” or even a “Really?!!!” Just a very patient, matter of fact, “well, let me tell you about it then” kind of tone. LOVED that! He seems like a real stand up guy for so many reasons (inc. that he’s a single dad).

    Okay – I had better get back to thinking about all the wonderful, manly qualities MY capable husband has now! :-) Loved this episode and love your recaps, Lincee!!!!!!!!

  171. Darryl Said,

    I think Deahnna abused Graham. The worst part when a woman dumps you is that he has to tell you why. He was so set on going. I think he was surprised she didn’t dump him the week before. The axe came as expected, next thing you know she is blubbering and telling him it is all his fault. It seems to me he felt lost in the shuffle. All the other guys were getting the good dates while he was left in the dust. It was just like in the desert when he couldn’t get his four wheeler to start.

    I think Graham should have got down on his knees and thanked God he missed that trainwreck. She is just too needy for the quiet Graham. I don’t think he could ever provide her with the constant butt-kissing she craves.

  172. Sher Said,

    #147 AggieFan – I hope that’s what happens!

    #151 bach addict – I agree….guys always try to say they don’t gossip as much as us girls…that is complete bullsh*t!!

  173. Sherri Said,

    Okay, I hate to say it, but I’m SO not a part of Team Jesse….he seems cool to hang out with, but not even remotely sexy…in my opinion! : ) Jason is completely hot, and clearly an amazing dad……quite the combination. I don’t think it was weird at all that he was jumping up and down to see her…thought it was cute and real. At least he’s got some personality! I agree with everyone who’s saying that Graham comes back somehow…I totally think they’re gonna pull one over on us. I would LOVE for Jason to be the next bachelor, so I hope ellen was right on that one. Also love the “friend on the inside” theory….
    Great recap though…freaking hilarious!

  174. Carolina Said,

    #134 Breckskibum–simmer down now! :) I wasn’t saying that there are NO pro snowboarders who make a lot of money. Obviously some do, while others don’t. I’m simply saying that the majority of the ones I’ve met (through a childhood friend of mine who is now a professional snowboarder) in the Breckenridge/Keystone area, really don’t make a lot of money. It’s like any other sport–only the cream of the crop really make bank. If Jesse had six weeks during the winter to take off to go on reality TV, I just have my doubts that he really is that great, and really does make enough money to buy a house like that.

    But we can agree to disagree! :)

  175. Tina Said,

    someone may have already mentioned this, but there is a “Diary of the Departed” for Graham…it’s quite touching.

  176. Sher Said,

    #173 Sherri, I don’t really think that Graham comes back, but it gives me hope that a lot of people like you are thinking that. That would be so juicy if it was true and they had pulled one over on us! I am ready for a shocker that I will like and not some boring ending.

  177. Sher Said,

    #175 Tina..oh wow, they put it up?!? I didn’t think they were gonna have one for him…Gonna check it out right now!

  178. carrielovesfred Said,

    Diary of the Departed is interesting – I’m not quite sure what to think. Is he sad because he broke her heart or is he sad because he liked her. He does make it sound like it was his decision to leave, though. Agree or am I crazy?

  179. Sher Said,

    #178 carrielovesfred – Yeah, I don’t really get it. On the one hand, he makes it sound like it was his decision by saying ‘i just was not ready with her’ and ‘while im hoping that i didn’t hurt her tremendously…’. Then he makes it sound like it was her decision when he says ‘I didn’t do anything. She decided to keep those guys.’

  180. bach addict Said,

    175, 178 & 179: woooaaahhhh…just watched diary of the departed. it’s almost cryptic. he makes it sound as though he hurt her by what he did. whether it’s leaving on his own b/c he was realistic and could not marry her and create an insta-family within 6 weeks OR whether it was just “not opening up.” i definitely respect him for having the respect for her that he did in that footage. i wasn’t a huge graham fan, but i definitely think i understand him better now knowing that he was an only child. it’s different how we process problems & how we don’t stay in a relationship just for company knowing that we can be more self-sufficient. i think they did a disservice to graham with the editing.

  181. Marti Said,

    I just viewd Graham’s Diary of the Departed. Everyone repeat after me….. He’s just not into you!!!!!!!

  182. Texas-born Said,

    #171 Darryl – I totally agree.

    Her surprise must be that she realizes she is really screwed up and has decided to join a convent.

  183. Suzie Said,

    Just watched Graham’s clip and totally agree that he makes it sound like it was his decision. I’m starting to agree with what some other people said – he probably showed up in jeans fully planning on not participating in the ceremony but ABC made him do it for some reason. He wrote the note so he could explain his decision to her? Which is still rather junior high-ish but to each their own! She did seem pissed during that ceremony and she was almost begging him afterwards to say he wanted to stay, so it would make sense that he was the one that opted out. That was my take on it anyways.

    If this ends up with her not picking anyone, I’m going to be ticked!

  184. AggieFan Said,

    I am soooo glad they posted a DOD for Graham. I am in the boat of all those that are absolutely LOVING this season. I can’t wait for the next episode. Every Tuesday I’m dying a little inside because the next episode is a week away; I know, I’m pathetic, but this season has me hook, line & sinker. I wasn’t too into Matty. I only watched the show so I would fully understand Lincee’s commentary. But this season….WAY different. I can’t wait to see what happens next. Lincee only makes it that much better because Lincee is AWESOME!!!

    I hate that so much is edited out. I want to know what REALLY goes on. Even the interviews with Deanna and those known to be off the show already seem scripted. I want the real scoop!

    I’m kinda wondering about Sean’s DOD tape….there wasn’t one….just Twilley going on and on and on and on…..

  185. MIssy Said,

    http://www.examiner.com/x-348-Denver-Celebrity-Examiner~y2008m6d20-Local-Snowboarder-Bringing-Bachelorette-Back-to-Breckenridge

    Shout out to Lincee from the Denver Celebrity Examiner ;)

  186. Laurel Said,

    OK- Just watched Graham’s diary and I agree – he just wasn’t that into her. Also – he is not very well spoken and didn;t seem to really care what he said one way or the other. Additionally, the lack of an upper lip reminds me of the Planet of the Apes.

  187. T Said,

    I just love you guys and your super snooping! How in the world does everyone find these guys’ websites, property values, etc!? I just looked at SP Ron’s website and the dude just earned himself another big fat “Ewwww!” Just when I thought I couldn’t dislike him any more. And worse? What is up with his stylist with her arms above her head? Did someone just get a new set of “girls” and is Really Super Duper proud of them? Or maybe she is in charge of the “haircut with benefits” package? Anyway, the place looks scuzzy. And I AM rejecting the place…not just choosing another.

    P.S. I can’t find Jesse’s website. Does Jeremy have one? Maybe I need to head over the the ABC site. I only come here for my Bachelor/Bachelorette fix. All others pale in comparison! haha.

  188. weffie525 Said,

    I was just reading about Jesse (I googled him). I heart Jesse but don’t think he is right for DD. Did anyone else catch Jeremy saying that the notes on his wall were the things he didn’t know for the Bar exam? Got erased from my DVR so I can’t double check….btw, Lincee’s website made the Denver Celebrity Examiner! “BTW, if you’re fan of the Bachelor/Bachelorette series, be sure to regularly read Lincee Moore’s very funny and biting blog.”

  189. s2c Said,

    My favorite thing about Jesse is that he didnt even mention JSAK until she asked. Not like Graham whose first conversation with her let her know that he was involved with childrens charities. If DeAHHnna hadnt picked Jesse for a hometown date, she might have never known. My next favorite thing is the way he leaped to her aid when she faked falling off the mechanical bull. Not like Ron who stood by and sipped his beer. I kinda wish he hadnt used his time to talk to her about passing gas in bed, but he is young. Wanting to meet her dad before he goes to the fantasy suite will make up for that though, plus DeAHHna seems to respond well to a challenge.

  190. TJ Said,

    Lincee, funniest recap ever! I think the same things you do while I’m watching the show, but you express them so much better than I ever could. Thanks for the laughs.

  191. swirlyturtle Said,

    There’s been a lot of speculation about Jesse’s career and charity, and this link may answer some of it. It’s a couple years old, but it’s an article about Jesse from Denver’s weekly alternative newspaper. It talks about Jesse’s charity and also how much (or how little) pro snowboarders make.

    Here’s a quote from the article: “Pat Bridges, editor of Snowboarding magazine, estimates that on average, pros earn between $18,000 and $30,000 per year”

    http://www.westword.com/2005-03-03/news/big-heir/

  192. organza Said,

    I absolutely hate to ask but if anyone has a second to puhleeeeeeeeease post a link to this diary of the departed thang you speak of I would be so forever grateful. My computer is soooooooo slooooooooowwwww and I swear I tried, I went to ABC and tried to find it…it is taking forever to switch screens and I am frustrated. Wah.

  193. Moxie Said,

    I just watched the “diary of the dearly departed”. Hopefully, DD has watched that by now and is at peace with her decision!! Because he could not have made it any more clear that he was not in love with her, couldn’t see himself falling in love with her in the future, wasn’t interested in trying to fall in love with her, wasn’t going to marry her, etc. He did seem to actually want to fall in love with someone eventually. But it kind of sounds like that he just isn’t at that point in his life where that is a priority.

    Oh well, so long “hot one”.

    I am still laughing at her “3 kids before I am 30″ comment. I am sure she will change her tune after #1 is born! And just laugh at herself when she thinks about how she thought it was a good idea to have 3 in 3 years! I am guessing she just doesn’t realize how incredibly difficult (physically, mentally, emotionally, etc) that would actually be. Maybe that is a lession one can only learn by actually becoming a parent! I thought I wanted to have my kids really close together too. That was until I had the first one and realized….you know what, let’s rethink this little timeline of mine….what’s my hurry!

  194. Moxie Said,

    Organza…here you go!

    http://abc.go.com/primetime/bachelorette/index?pn=index

    go to the video section of the page and click on the diaries of the dearly departed week 6!

    Good luck!

  195. s2c Said,

    Maybe the big secret she has been keeping is that she has been taking fertility hormones since they asked her to come on the show, so she could get pregnant right away! That would explain all the crying and anger, maybe the blinking is a side effect !

  196. Skeeter Said,

    Check out http://purlracing.com/gallery/Jesse-Csincsak. …awesome photo gallery of Jesse snowboarding.

  197. Denise Said,

    Deanna is going to be the next Brad Womack and not choose anyone. Guaranteed.

  198. MissingMeeps Said,

    Possible spoiler – Rumor has it that Jesse broke up with his girlfriend while at F2 with a producer hovering over him while he sent the breakup text message and that DeAnna finds out about it from someone close to her. If so, it would explain his non-kissing, Jesse giving excuses for the overnight date on FD, Jesse always using 1-on-1 time to make case for rose verbally versus making a “connection” and at the BBQ when DD stormed off, Jesse went in opposite direction (probably thinking cameras would not be on him). I would like to think he has more integrity than that!

    If this is true and she cuts Jeremy to keep Jesse, it is just a shame! :(

  199. organza Said,

    Thank you so much Moxie…really kind of you.

  200. Lyn Said,

    I just met Ryan Sutter’s hot brother! He is getting married on Saturday. Colorado Lyn

  201. Raves4Richard Said,

    Someone over at fans of reality tv mentioned something that now has me wondering…about Jesse even more…

    “Why did ABC continually show the logo of the company that Jesse was promoting yet “blur out” other logos? From what I understand as someone with career in marketing, any product placements in tv shows and movies where the brand is prominently displayed is paid for by the “advertiser.”
    Why was Jesse product logo not blurred?

  202. MissingMeeps Said,

    There is a really awesome picture of Graham and Meeps together over on FORT. Very cute together…and I don’t even like Graham. :) It is the MTA thread and it is on page 131. Amanda/Meeps and Graham have the same color eyes…apparently it is from Amanda’s my space page.

  203. MissingMeeps Said,

    There is another really cute picture of Fred with Chelsea, Amanda, Noelle and Holly. Guess I finaly got another Meeps fix! lol (Same thread page 136.)

  204. MissingMeeps Said,

    Sorry to post again, but on that same page is a picture of Noelle and Richard – very cute. That is a match I would love to see! It looks like someone gave Noelle a pink rose and she is laughing! Although, if Jeremy does not get picked by DD, I vote he date Noelle! I liked Holly – maybe her and Richard, he likes teaching, she writes children’s books….hmmm

  205. MissingMeeps Said,

    LINCEE: This is a great picture of Graham offering Meeps a pink rose.

    http://i29.tinypic.com/29kp6y8.jpg

  206. Joy Said,

    MIssing Meeps…. what is the MTA thread on FORT?? Do you have a link? I found FORT, I found the Bachelorette threads, but can’t seem to find the MTA thread? thanks!

    Also… because I’m a total dork I went back and watched the end of the show again. I tried to read Graham’s letter. It said something along the lines of “Where to begin?… I’m sorry… present circumstances”. So either he was explaining why he wasn’t falling in love with her or why he needed to leave. But I still wanted to smack that smirk off his face. I never loved him and I just found that look so annoying. Lets hope DD gets past him quickly!

  207. sara from tx Said,

    Thanks to those of you who let us know about the diary of the departed. I was SO upset and crying into my bowl of sherbet ice cream (Lincee, that and M&M’s are the only green things I eat. yea us!) during the most dramatic rose ceremony “EVER” and I was so upset b/c I thought Graham really liked her too. Why did he act so upset and tear up? I guess he was just upset for her. But ya, on the DOD I was a little embarassed for her but feel better now b/c it was the right decision. Wow. I’d be mortified if I was her and SO HURT if I was the last guy chosen…………assuming there IS one. :)

  208. Longtimefan Said,

    this was in the Denver morning paper today (Thurs.): “In a move that continues to defy logic, Jesse Csincsak, the 26-year-old goofy-looking, long-haired shredder from Breckenridge, survived another elimination Monday night, received another rose and remains one of three finalists on ABC’s “The Bachelorette.” I mean, what’s DeAnna Pappas thinking here? She wants this dood at her big fat Greek wedding?” Ha! Dood ?

  209. Emily Said,

    Itsn’t it funny how we were all DREADING this season because we thought it was going to be *yawn* BORING and now its turning out to be one of the most dramatic?! This was exactly how we all started out thinking Shayne was a drama queen and we were SO over her and then she grew on us last season! We can be SO fickle!! :)

  210. Sher Said,

    #207 Joy – I had posted the links, but my comment is still “awaiting moderation”. Not sure why that happens when you post a bunch of links, but I’ll try again next.

  211. Sher Said,

    Graham and Meeps: http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/theboysandgirls/IMG_0711.jpg

  212. Sher Said,

    http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=TheBachelorette&Number=9219562&page=1&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&rc=&fpart=

  213. Sher Said,

    http://www.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=TheBachelorette&Number=9219741&page=1&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&rc=&fpart=

  214. MissingMeeps Said,

    Thanks Sher, I tried to post the links and it would not let me…so that is why I tried to point you to FORT. Glad to see that you figured out how to do it!

  215. AggieFan Said,

    My question is this: Why were cast-off bachelorettes from Matty’s season with the cast-off yummy’s from Deanna’s season? The caption says they were in LA for the Men Tell All that was taped last weekend…..but that doesn’t explain why the girls were there. Anyone know?

  216. AliAustin Said,

    I just tried to post this and it didn’t go thru, here is attempt #2…

    Why didn’t ABC show any of Graham’s comments in the limo during the episode? I think they would want to give the viewers some closure IF Graham is gone for good. They had plenty of time to do it and chose to fill the episode with the re-cap montage at the beginning, so they definitely had time to fill. They usually show what the guys say in the limosine, but they chose not to show Graham for some reason…

  217. T Said,

    #212 Did you notice that Jeremy is in this picture but Jesse and Jason aren’t?

  218. Denise Said,

    I haven’t finished reading all of the comments so if someone else has said this then I am sorry for repeating it. DD gave Ty the golf ball because on their one on one date he told her that they played golf together. He showed her several pics of Ty on the golf course. It wasn’t as random as ABC made it look.

    I am a huge Jason fan but as good as he is I don’t think they are right for each other. I like DD too but I think she is more than Jason and Ty can handle right not but he is my favorite.

    As for Jesse, I like him too but I don’t think it will work either. His family is great but having had such a hard time having children has probably made Jesse a bit spoiled. I see an attitude of “I am going to do want I want when I want” and that is soooo not DD.

    Jeremy is the best bet for her in the long run. I personally don’t like him at all nor do I find him attractive. He is very creepy to me and believe all of his “perfection” will be seen through soon. That boy is hiding something. But based on what DD says she wants, the timeline and the kind of man that would put up with the demands like she has he will have to be her pick.

    I still heart Jason and hope that he finds someone as loving as he is!!

  219. MissingMeeps Said,

    Aggie Fan, the way I heard it Noelle stopped by the Soul Patch (Ron’s shop) to commiserate and say hi. Then the group decided to meet up that weekend, since they all knew what it was like to be on the show….it looks like they had a blast…and some one thought of giving the girls pink roses….very cute, Amanda seems to have gotten one from Graham and I saw that Holly had one…from who I don’t know. These pics made me feel much better!

  220. Joy Said,

    Thanks guys… and I did find it on FORT. Yes, its been a quiet morning at work!

    But I almost wish I had not gone there… but at least I’m prepared for what they are predicting!

  221. MC Said,

    #217- you are SO right..i didnt even notice that! Guess that confirms that Jeremy is going home next week! wow

  222. don't get Graham at all Said,

    that pic of Graham and Meeps? He DOES NOT look good to me at all. Slimy. All that product in his hair. And what was Meeps thinking with that dress? Leather under the boobs????

  223. TxAggie Said,

    What is this FORT everyone is talking about? I am super confused.

    But I love that both seasons of “rejects” were hanging out together…wouldn’t that be hilarious if some of those people ended up dating. Crazy!!

  224. don't get Graham at all Said,

    #217 – you are so right, jeremy is there, so it’s gotta be jason and jesse. #221, wow is right!! how did this pic get out? ruins the ABC surprise waaaay ahead of airing the episode.

  225. AggieFan Said,

    Fans Of Reality Tv….google it. Webman won’t let me post links. It is a fascinating website.

    Am I the only person that checks back to Lincee’s blog, like, 20 times a day to make sure I read EVERY comment? The fort question has been asked and answered at least once in every blog posting…man, I must really be lame and have nothing to do at work; but I do, I promise!

  226. TxAggie Said,

    Thanks fellow Aggie! And no I check it around a million times a day because I LOVE reading everyone’s comments but apparently I’ve missed the FORT thing…or just not realized it was the same thing. Oops.

  227. Joy Said,

    Wouldn’t it be funny if we started hearing about a ton of hook-ups from the Bachelor girls & Bachelorette guys…. it looks like it *might* have happened, based on some of the pics floating around. haha! I’m thinking Holly & Richard. They would be so cute together! Or maybe Chelsea and Brian??

  228. J-Dizzle Said,

    AggieFan, I’m totally obsessive about checking this blog!! I check it 20 times before lunch!

  229. Leslie Said,

    LOL!!! This is too funny.

    “The Original C$ Said,
    You see I can explain DD’s “spacing” on the Space Needle. In Georgia, we never got too immersed in “geography” or “landmarks”. When tickets for the Atlanta Olympics first went on sale, one of the local customer service reps wouldn’t sell any to a person calling from New Mexico because, and I quote; “We are not allowed to sell any tickets to people outside the United States as of yet.”

    And there’s your sign…”

    This is too funny Original C$. I guess only Georgia people and possibly College Station people are the only ones who don’t know about the Space Needle.

    Go Longhorns!!!

  230. IheartDeAnna Said,

    Ryan Sutter’s brother is still very hot!

  231. Sher Said,

    #223 TxAggie and #227 Joy – yes, maybe my Bachelor/Bachelorette show idea of having 25 past bach/bachelorettes to see who dates each other can become a reality. They are all starting to hang out now anyway…

    College Station people know about the space needle.

    Go Ags!!

  232. AggieFan Said,

    LESLIE!!!!! SHAME ON YOU! Houston is the capital for highly successful engineering careers! Where do you go to school if you want to be an engineer? Texas A&M of course! It is a fabulous college! I can’t believe a fellow Lincee fan would put Aggies down like that….hmmmfph. I’m an Aggie Fan first and foremost, but I love all my Texas colleges (including the Longhorns, as long as they’re not playing a Houston team or my Aggies) and all my Texas sports teams! But Houston teams are first! ;o) Go Dynamo!!! Three years in a row baby!!!

  233. CK Said,

    http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/bachelorette-spoilers-speculation/75714-mta-possible-spoilers-144.html
    A few more cute pics………….

  234. Bachelor Fan Said,

    Awesome FORT pictures, thanks for posting those Sher! Good spot on Jeremy being there! So who is she going to pick, snowboarder Jesse or cutie Jason? I’m thinking Jason since he seems more ready to settle down.

    Ok, for those of you who don’t know about the Space Needle, you can read all about it. :)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_needle

    Also for more NW trivia, check out the Bellevue Downtown Park where Jason, Ty and DeAnna fed the ducks:
    http://www.experiencewa.com/v5/poi/poi.aspx?poiId=8442

  235. longtimefan Said,

    I live in Atlanta; can’t imagine any Atlanta residents not knowing about the space needle!

    one more thing: the FORT site seems very hard to navigate. what am I doing wrong? click on “spoilers” eg, and you have to click on each page to get each response?? I much prefer scrolling down to read all the comments on i hate green beans!!

  236. Bachelor Fan Said,

    Awesome photo links today, people, thanks! And good spot on Jeremy being in the pic.

    For those of you who don’t know about the Space Needle (we won’t mention who you are!), check it out:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_needle

  237. Bachelor Fan Said,

    For those of you who don’t know about the Space Needle (we won’t mention who you are!):
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_needle

  238. Bachelor Fan Said,

    Ok, I keep trying to post a link to Wikipedia for those of you who don’t know about the Space Needle but I can’t seem to post it. Do a girl from the NW a favor and wiki it! :) You can also google Bellevue Downtown Park for more info. on the Jason/Ty/D duck feeding location if you are interested.

    Thanks for those of you posting the photo links, those are awesome! Good catch on Jeremy being in the photo.

  239. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    Could DD’s secret be that Graham decided to leave on his own? Or does she confess that the Intern is truly the mastermind of all dates and parties?????

  240. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    Why has our Intern been so silent on this week’s posting? Hmmmmm

  241. Darryl Said,

    I am starting to think that Deahnna is very unlucky in love. She has a show where she has 25 decent guys to pick and choose from. The first thing she does is develop a fatal attraction to the one guy who is either gay or “just doesn’t feel it”. I think Graham is finicky as a cat. You put filet mignon on the plate in front of him and he just sniffs at it. Certainly, the ubiquitous cameras and 25 other guys didn’t help.

    For some reason, I wanted Deahnna to get what she wanted. The remaining three guys all have warts in my opinion. Jeremy is just plain freaky. Jesse doesn’t appear to be ready to settle down. Jason seems to win by default, but he has the baggage of the ex + son. But, Deahnna has her own issues – she is drama queen and has Brad + Graham( probably a bunch more we don’t know about) as baggage you are likely to hear about constantly.

    Jason + Deahnna it is a match made in heaven. Years from now they will be in bed together. Jason will be moaning “Oh Deahnna”. She will respond “Oh Graham, Yes, Yes YES!”.

  242. Marti Said,

    http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/bachelorette-spoilers-speculation/75714-mta-possible-spoilers-144.html

    If you scan down this link there is a girl in a hot pink halter. If I’m not mistaken she is now on the reality show “Next Food Network Star”. Am I wrong? Can’t remember her name.

  243. Darryl Said,

    for #236: Dehanna said in the “Men Tell All” show that he didn’t see herself with Graham forever. I think she was only planning for about 15 minutes. Of course after watching Graham in the hammock( should we go back to the group?) or at the speedway( I want you to kiss me – Graham repies it doesn’t feel like we are alone), I think she is greatly overestimating his staying power.

  244. Leslie Said,

    Calm down, I said POSSIBLY College Station people. And if the Ags were playing say, the Sooners or Ohio State, I guess I would be for the Ags. See… I can be civil.

  245. Leslie Said,

    Hey Marti, I think the girl that is on The Next Food Network Star is short, like 5′1″ or something. This girl in the hot pink strapless top is clearly taller than that. I don’t think they are the same person.

  246. JL Said,

    The girl in the hot pink strapless is Holly from Matt’s season.

  247. bach addict Said,

    240 – don’t forget editing splices & dices… just saying…it wasn’t directed to graham. i think we’ve got it narrowed down on FORT and they’ll NEVER show what really happened…it’s not fleiss to let the public know how it actually went down. the women that attended the MTA have filled us in on some things…NOT crucial or contract breaking, but they have said they’ll dish after the show is aired. they were there alllllll day…we’ll only see a smidgeon

  248. jill Said,

    Crazy! I can’t believe they let that pic with Jeremy @ the MTA slip by! I guess we now know the F2 are Jason & Jesse. (Good choice DD!) Obviously Graham wasn’t into her. He does seem to be into Meeps just going by his body language in those pics.

  249. AggieFan Said,

    Friends Leslie?? ;o)

    What I don’t understand about that photo being leaked is the Men Tell All Special is supposed to air the first hour and then the three fantasy dates the second hour. The viewing audience shouldn’t know that Jeremy goes home even on the Men Tell All……sooooo, I wonder if Jeremy will even be aired on the Men Tell All show that we get to see at home…hmmmmm

  250. bach addict Said,

    246 AggieFan: I thought MTA was on after the FD.

  251. Kelli Said,

    OK, girls (and the few men out there), I was at happy hour last night here in Dallas. A friend of mine saw Jeremy last Friday evening at a club by the name of Sweet, in Uptown and said he was all over several women.

  252. bach addict Said,

    248 – it’s suite. from what i heard all of the D-town boys were there

  253. loving this Said,

    this is fun and addictive. all you super sleuths who try to figure it out! can’t wait to hear from the girls who hung with the bachelors at the MTA. Now THAT will be good scoop!! We went from Matty and Shayne to DD and these guys, which turned out to be surprisingly entertaining…. what do we do when this is over ?????? Haven’t heard there’s a Bachelor airing any time soon….. withdrawal !!

  254. Legallyblondemel Said,

    PS – Did anyone else catch today’s Washington Post, which did its best Recap impersonation here. Nothing like the real thing, but entertaining nonetheless:
    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/celebritology/2008/06/undressing_the_bachelorette_1.html?hpid=entnews

    The more I think back on the last episode:
    - the more I dislike the not-nearly-as-hot-as-most-everyone-thinks Graham & am happy DD finally saw the light.
    - speaking of DD, WTF not recognizing the Space Needle? I hate to swear, even in abbreviations, but bless DD’s heart . . .

  255. Sigh Said,

    Yeah, so she’s going to choose no one but won’t even learn from the irony of the situation. Instead, she’ll say she DID fall in love (with Graham) and that SHE was ready to commit and get married but the evil guy broke her heart just like Brad (aka spawn of Satan) did.

    I hope that she will wake up and realize that what Brad did was the right thing, and that she too can’t choose the F1 just for the sake of choosing someone at the Home Depot podium and making a good tv moment.

  256. swirlyturtle Said,

    #246 & 247 – I just checked the ABC web site. It looks like MTA does air AFTER the regular episode. Based on that picture someone posted earlier, it looks like Jeremy is a goner.

  257. MC Said,

    Marti’s (#239) hot pink reference was for the halter, not the strapless. the hot pink halter is Ashlee-the annoying singer/songwriter and (#242) Leslie- Ashlee is really short so maybe it is the same person?? i dont watch that show so i dont know for sure.

    AggieFan-I like your motto on Texas schools, etc. I feel the same way about it (except I’m a longhorn). Glad to know there are sane people on both sides, haha. Oh and I check this website too many times daily…I think I need a 12 step.

    Also, I checked out my TV line up and the MTA airs AFTER the overnight dates….at least according to my local abc website. But based on that picture posted earlier, I think it’s clear that it’s Jesse and Jason in F2.

  258. MC Said,

    wow #253…looks like we share the same brain, haha.

  259. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    TV guide says we will see the regular episode 1st then the MTA.

  260. Marti Said,

    #254. I was referring to the strapless hot pink top. I know the halter is the annoying singer/songwriter Ashlee. I looked up the Food Network and the girl on there is named Kelsey, thus not the same person. But, they look alike.

    I looked at the MTA picture at the pool and I agree – it looks like Jeremy is out of there. Oh well. Who will she pick? If anyone. And I really don’t know if I care anymore. Blinky is so annoying!

  261. Sher Said,

    #249 bach addict – like who? Chris, Bryan and Twilley? Also, are you going to fill us in on the women’s MTA scoop after it airs?

  262. Christine Said,

    Ok, so does anyone else realize how lame D is? She brings absolutely nothing to the table. No wonder Brad dumped her… She has the most khaki personality I have ever met and Jason shoudl not waste his time. She and Jeremy would be perfect together in their “khaki” lives. I have never been so bothered by another bachelorette or bachelor before.

  263. D Said,

    What are the “rejected” girls doing there at the Men Tell All? Would love it if they did a show on their weekend/day together! Now that looks fun!

  264. concoop Said,

    OK- very random (especially since I just watched the last 2 weeks episodes late last night)…Yesterday after work (in Dallas), I was pulling out of the parking garage , up the one way ramp, and this guy was walking down the ramp (almost in the middle) carrying a motorcycle helmet. Actually, he was more walking with a cocky swagger. Anyway, after glaring at him 1)because he almost became a hood ornament and 2) b/c he acted like he owned the road, I realized it was Jeremy. I had no idea about the motorcycle thing and was second guessing that it was him until I watched the episode & saw the helmet. Who walks down into a parking garage @ high traffic time????

  265. bach addict Said,

    #258 Sher: that’s what the news around town is. they were heading to MTA. i’m not the scoop “person” but go to the FORT website, click Bachelorette, spoilers & spec (at top), then MTA is in there. basically if you don’t want a spoiler or your brain to go CIA, then you might want to stay away. there’s obviously no confirmation, but with all of the ideas put together…it’s pretty easy to figure it all out. i just read it; i don’t actually post. who knows – i’ll probably sign up shortly here. HA! in need to go to a 12 step program for this show. but like i say spoiler big time. i try to stay away from posting the things from FORT over here b/c i don’t want to “ruin” the ideas/outcomes, etc. for anyone. :o ) if you don’t mind knowing the “real” personalities though (you’ll be surprised), you may want to check it out after you watch the finale. ron & twilley actually post over there too under their respective name threads…

  266. Pilla Said,

    #260 — maybe they had to bring them back so the M would have something to TA about?

    I don’t want her to pick anyone who’s actually a good catch. It would be wasted on her totally.

    I’m flying the Team Jesse colours though, but for myself. There’s something very Lloyd Dobbler about him, which I just happen to adore.

  267. AggieFan Said,

    Ok gals, thanks for clearing things up for me. Good to know ABC is going to air the MTA after the fantasy dates…that is the way it usually happens. I was just going by what I saw on the previews shown after the boot-Graham rose ceremony. Me and my dyslexic self (I’m not really, but dang, why would my brain trick me like that?) watched it again and thought it showed DD crying over Graham and stating that “first and foremost” she wants to be in love. Then the announcer says “Next week, on the Bachelorette” and it shows the MTA preview. After it showed the MTA dates the announcer says “AND THEN” and it goes on to talk about the fantasy dates. But I just watched it AGAIN, and it is the other way around….okay, I can’t take it anymore….no more blog or abc.com or anything like that until tomorrow! Have a great night everyone!!! ;o)

  268. Sher Said,

    #262 bach addict – I am in need of a 12 step program too. I’m going to check it out now. I don’t mind spoilers and knowing what happens now that Graham is gone. Knowing the real personalities would be interesting.

  269. TxAggie Said,

    Ok that FORT website is so addicting…I can’t stop reading it! I love all the pics and insight from the girls who went to the MTA show last week! I can’t wait for that show now…reading all of these “theories” about what happens has definitely sparked my interest even more! Dying to hear what her big “secret” is…only a few more days…

  270. LATXgirl Said,

    What is the FORT address?

  271. tammy Said,

    http://www.charlotte.com/200/story/687344.html

  272. bach addict Said,

    fansofrealitytv.com

  273. LATXgirl Said,

    Thanks

  274. swirlyturtle Said,

    tammy, thanks for posting that article about Graham’s departure. Interesting!

  275. Darryl Said,

    Thanks Tammy for the article Tammy! Work in a bar – sounds like the two soul mates just missed a connection. Only a fool would have skipped the fantasy dates. But, being trapped with a girl two days away from being a stalker makes the choice a tough one. The biggest fear is that you get a little drunk and let things go a little too far. Imagine the blowup in the next ceremony when you explain you really aren’t feeling it. Of course he is a main who communicates by action. He would just slipped out back while she is looking at the picutres before the ceremony.

    She made the right decision a little too late.

  276. Kay Said,

    Did anyone else catch the intern in the mirror when Jesse and his dad were talking? I rewound it to watch again. :o )

  277. bach addict Said,

    there’s a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE transcript of the conference call with graham. it’s posted on the FORT site. i’m sure you can google it too. the boy does not have an issue with speaking b/c i was tired by the time i finished. :o )

  278. OSU Girl Said,

    Ok, first time poster, but seriously…A&M playing the Buckeyes?!?! LAUGHABLE!!!!!

    O-H–I-O!!!!!!!!!!

  279. DC Said,

    http://blogs.accesshollywood.com/archives/2008/06/the-bachelorettes-graham-wants.html#more

  280. Graham on Deanna Said,

    Holy crap, he hates her!! Per the article posted in #276:

    “I don’t believe you are missing anything in the edit of Jesse. I think you are missing something in the editing of Deanna.”

    When pressed for more information by another reporter he wouldn’t elaborate,

    “Yeah. I’m gonna go ahead and not comment on that one.”

  281. Graham on Deanna Said,

    TxAggie, can you post the exact link to the FORT forum where girls are discussing the taped MTA? There are some many pages there, I can’t find it. Maybe Graham’s transcript, too. Thanks. :)

  282. bach addict Said,

    278 – Graham on Deanna: FORT MTA link

    http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/bachelorette-spoilers-speculation/75714-mta-possible-spoilers.html

  283. Avery Said,

    I keep trying to read past the picture of McDreamy…can’t scroll anymore…

  284. cat Said,

    Thanks bach addict for posting that link – I am on the website right now in the bachelorette section and can’t find anything! its a hard site to navigate through. All they seem to be talking about is trying to decipher the photo of DD saying goodbye to the loser on the final episode… they sure are private investigators though. i definitely prefer this site much better!

  285. loving this Said,

    i don’t have a password etc. for the fort site and it just seems like too much trouble. thank you #277 for giving us the condensed version. All you fort readers, will you just give us the scoop, if any, from there? thanks. I can only devote so many hours (TOO MANY hours!) per day to bach blogs, and Lincee is #1.

  286. houston mamacita Said,

    #276 – ouch! no love lost there!

    my husband said last week (yes – he watches with me) that he thinks that her attraction to graham is very similar to HTC brad’s attraction to bettina. once he let her go, he wasn’t that into jenni or DD. if she picks anyone, it will only be because she doesn’t want to be like brad. that meltdown at the outhouse party the other week just showed how desparate she felt since she wasn’t feeling it for the other guys, and graham wasn’t into her.

  287. ENT Said,

    okay, so I think the big surprise on the MTA is DDahna revealing the contents of Graham’s letter… right??

  288. MagicDance Said,

    Link to the transcript of Graham’s interview since the FORT website is rather difficult:

    http://www.tvfunspot.com/forums/showthread.php?s=878616bc54ec1dea98934137c1afa4c4&t=4975

    Also, the big secret is apparently that DD reveals whether or not she is engaged.

    #282 – i too have been wasting away the hours on these blogs….glad to know i’m not alone!

  289. bach addict Said,

    282 & 285 – I’m beginning to wonder if i’ll have a job when this show is over. you definitely have to sift through the pages on the FORT site. there’s even a deaf lady (lynn7) that posts on body language and what the guys & D are saying when there are voiceovers going on. jason and de had a convo about her being cold and he was trying to make her comfortable. yet we didn’t hear any of it, but go back and look and you see it. she said i love you to ty – smudged out. graham told jason “go man” as he left the rose ceremony. it’s pretty interesting. she’s dead on though with the connection with these guys.

  290. Kristin Said,

    On the three kids thing…she clarified quickly that she wanted to START having kids before she was 30, but it fast and hard to hear.

  291. MissingMeeps Said,

    Twilly said that the most hated guy in the house was actually Jesse. Told everybody he was in the show for product endorsements and to try to get into more reality TV shows. Twilley thinks Jesse fell in love with DeAnna in the end, but Twilley really doesn’t like him. I guess we will find out soon if any of this is true!

    I looked at Zero gloves website, Jesse’s sponsor…and it shows Jesse wearing the “Do Work” T-shirt and “Homewrecker” t-shirt, plus they showed him wearing the gloves, that he wore on the show, etc. I guess he even got Brian wearing the clothes to make more money….

    Did they give Jeremy “the bad guy in the house” edit so the viewing public would handle it better when this pretty darn perfect guy got tossed by DD??? Or did they do it because they had to give Jesse a more positive edit, because DD kept giving him roses? I have never, posted this much before on anything. I love this season, keeping us all interested! lol

  292. loving this Said,

    #285, thanks for the link to the graham interview. pretty interesting. he tries really hard to be positive about her, I think. the most telling comment is at the end, when the interviewer asks “if you hadn’t been in front of the cameras do you think you could have fallen in love with Deanna?” his answer: NO, I don’t think I could have fallen in love with Deanna. He thinks Jason is the best match

  293. bach addict Said,

    #288 MissingMeeps – You’re right from what everyone knows. there’s more to it – I won’t say as I know some gals that check this board that won’t let me say what I know to them…and I’d hate to ruin it. Also, everyone actually got along with Ron (like I say…editing can be brutal). So Jeremy got the bad cut & most air time b/c why…they always do that throughout the season to make a story. Jeremy was supposed to go home F4, but Graham took that spot from him… The show isn’t going as planned. At one point I thought there was a mole in the house, but that is a DEFINITE “no” now as the behind the scenes dirt has shown. some of these guys wouldn’t have been/be around this long if D knew the real deal.

  294. Sue Said,

    I FINALLY watched it yesterday and just finished going through most of the comments. I still have the same question–

    Does ANYONE know the name of the bar where Graham works in NYC?!

    And I’m sorry, I was laughing so hard when she sent him home. She was geting more pissed that he just didn’t react. She couldn’t stand that he was so indifferent!

  295. Missy Said,

    #277–I didn’t think that’s what he meant, I actually thought what he was saying was more positive. Like, it seems she is not a good fit for Jesse because he is such the “fun-guy” and she can be so serious. When he said the editing was true about Jesse but not so much about DeAnna, I got the impression he meant that she is way more fun-loving than she comes across. Did anyone else think that?

  296. Joy Said,

    #292… Yeah, that kind of makes sense Missy!

    And isn’t it so funny that the guys are just so matter-of-fact about all of this. It wasn’t a match, oh well. None of them seem super upset or hung up on it. Well, except Chef with his little tear. But I wonder if it will be the same for the F3. I can see Jesse moving on with no problem. But Jeremy & Jason seem like it would really hurt them to be cut, and lose her. We’ll have to see.

    And yes… I’ve never posted so much about an episode!!! Hahaha!

  297. MC Said,

    #290-bach addict….how do you have the inside scoop? i dont care if you spoil it for me!

  298. tammy Said,

    Yeah, bach addict. Please tell.

  299. tammy Said,

    #289 I think Graham is full of it. I think he thought he could have fallen in love with DeAnna if given a longer time period and different circumstances. After reading his transcript…I think she was a fool. If her only problem with him is that he couldn’t say “I want to get married” after 6 weeks and she let him go…she is crazy. Obviously, he did have strong feelings for her. I think his pride is talking when he says he couldn’t have fallen in love. I think he could have (and he knows it) if given a longer time period. It seems their only issue is that she wanted to be engaged at the final rose ceremony and he wanted to just date beyond it. Which I think anyone who goes on this show, should go in only with the expectation to explore the relationship beyond the show. It would make the show so much more believable. Gosh…it’s a shame….they had such a strong connection!!

  300. Darryl Said,

    For 296: The issue is that Graham needs to close the door on Deahnna. He is accepting her decision and stepping aside. In his viewpoint, she chose the other guys and then freaks out. I think he realizes that she is just too much of a drama queen. The strong connection(lust) was making Deahnna freak out. She just kept trying to force the issue. I think she would have had a chance if she wasn’t in such a rush to close the deal.

  301. Suzie Said,

    How about anytime anyone is talking about spoilers, they start their post with **SPOILER** and then those that don’t want to read don’t have to? Then bach addict can spill it. :)

  302. tammy Said,

    #298 sounds like a plan. Please spill!!

  303. MC Said,

    great plan, suzie!

    bach addict…..lets hear it! (can I just say that I feel like such a loser today for constantly hitting refresh and just keeping this blog up all day long!)

  304. loving this Said,

    Great idea!! Cmon bach addict, spill!!! It’s too long til Mon. night.

  305. bach addict Said,

    #294 MC – like i’ve said, it’s not me that has inside scoop, i just read the boards. i started reading last week – fully addicted now. they’ve been right thus far about how things were going to be portrayed on tv, etc. so i’m not going to question them. it’s amazing to me. the “dirt” on one of the guys starts around this area…
    http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/bachelorette-spoilers-speculation/75714-mta-possible-spoilers-115.html

    just don’t bring it back here…

  306. Avid Fan Said,

    Question: Do they ever wear seat belts? She’s driven around in crazy cities…. and no seat belts. Ever. Good thing they use private jets or the flight attendants would be pissed!

  307. MC Said,

    i’ll read up on the posts and let you guys know (since I have nothing to do today)

    **possible spoiler** all they’re saying so far is that Jesse has a gf from before the show and that he’s the only one who’s been able to promote his products..the homewrecker tshirts, etc are all from his non profit and everyone is speculating why other guys tees have been blurred out but his haven’t. also, they’re sayign the big “secret” is that dd is in love. they’re also saying she picks Jason.

    but IMHO, its all speculation…no one has any proof or even “i heard this from my friends cousins neighbors postman who delivers mail to dd….” so i think we’ll have to wait and see. i’ll post back if i read anything juicier.

  308. your sis Said,

    So much material Linc…I couldn’t wait to read your take…and I’ve been reading…and reading…and I can’t seem to stop…

  309. hoochiekoochie Said,

    Ohio sucks. Big butthole.

  310. ejw1114 Said,

    #291- I am wondering the same thing. Does Graham own a bar or just bartend and where?

  311. Darryl Said,

    It would be so ironic if he own a bar like Brad HTC. Considering how they like to hype the “sterling” prospects, I suspect he doing something menial. After all, he has no real job experience – what would he be qualifed for? There are thousands and thousands of “bar + restaraunt” workers in NY who are hoping to break into modeling or show business. This would explain his interest in being on the Bachelorette despite not even know who Deahnna was.

    No, it is pretty obivous that Graham is just the hired help. He is a 29 year old guy who wanted to play pro basketball for a living. Just another little boy, that never grew up.

  312. bach addict Said,

    #304 MC – money shot – spoiler
    http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/bachelorette-spoilers-speculation/76140-thoughts-comments-general-3-spoilers-bachelorette-4-a-32.html

  313. Amy Said,

    #309 HMM, receding hairline?

  314. MC Said,

    #309..yeah, i saw that but you can’t tell who it is…i don’t care what they say they can see…its just her sending some guy off in a limo.

    BUT…the good thing is…at least we know there is a final home depot pedestal rose cermony. i can’t believe they haven’t been teasing that like crazy! and i cant say i’m a fan of that dress.

  315. bach addict Said,

    310 – better perhaps??? there’s more – just picked the one i thought was best.
    http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/bachelorette-spoilers-speculation/74511-bachelorette-4-screencaps-only-16.html

  316. MC Said,

    #312…i’m not convinced. are you?

  317. Amy Said,

    I thought it was the “other guy” not the one with in the link above with cropped hairline…

    Who knows??

  318. Kristin Said,

    My “refresh” finger is getting tired.

  319. Sher Said,

    That was interesting on that one link that #309 bach addict posted, where they said that Shayne’s show was a setup and she was guaranteed to be F1. Do ya’ll buy that?

  320. Sher Said,

    Ok, I post a question and all of a sudden everyone’s silent? It’s only Friday afternoon…what, do ya’ll have plans or something? ;)

  321. Leslie Said,

    I think the limo picture looks like Jesse’s shaggy hair.

  322. Me Said,

    Sher, with this show you just never know. It is a “reality” show after all (said sarcastically). :)

    #292, 296 – I disagree, I think Graham really means it that he would not have fallen in love with her regardless of the siuation. I do think they are two different people and when he said the no comment thing about the way she was portrayed, I think he meant there were things about DD we didn’t see that were not too sweet about her. Graham and DD are not compatible and that’s it. She was trying to force his love and he is not interested. She was so upset that he did not feel that same way, but you can’t always get your love returned. DD should know very well about that from last season.

  323. AggieFan Said,

    There is a picture exactly like the one posted at #309 that had been lightened by Photoshop or another program like that; it is definitely Jesse in the limo…the eyes are his and even if the eyes didn’t give it away, you can definitely see the hair across the face in the lightened picture…it is at the FORT site, a page or two forward or backward from the link on #309….looks like Jason is the chosen one, if she doesn’t pull a Womack. I’m kind of sad about it all. I was really hoping to see Deanna find something lasting. I really like Jason a lot, but if he is Jewish, like some sluethers think he is, that might cause problems later on. The people of the Jewish and Christian faiths are so set in their beliefs that it makes it hard if one is practicing their religion on a daily basis….i.e.: living their faith, not just proclaiming it. To add insult to injury, he probably won’t move to Atlanta because of his son. His son has a strong foundation of family in Washington, and if the mother is in his life, that might be something mandated in their divorce agreement (can’t move 100 miles away from each other-standard in divorce agreements). I don’t see DD moving to Washington with how much she has gone on about how close she is to her family…….and if one of them doesn’t move, I just don’t see the relationship lasting very long. So sad…..

  324. Joy Said,

    Ooooh… #309 interesting picture.

    What am I going to do when this is over. Haha… major withdrawal!

  325. Cat Said,

    I’m not a sleuth or anything but didn’t she say something when she saw Jason with Ty that she realized this was someone she could fall in love with? I mean maybe she did fall in love with him and realizes she can have a happy relationship and a family with him…he’s already open to that obviously and he seems very loving and I think when he was there to comfort her after she booted out Fred and the chef that forged a bond between them. Okay maybe I’m just a hopeless romantic but I’d like to think it will still work out…

    A big shout out to all the sleuths out there posting links – I can’t wait to get home to click on some of these juicy morsels! Thank god its Friday!

  326. Sher Said,

    #320 AggieFan, yep, those FORT people pretty much know everything that’s going to happen and the order of the F4-F1. Jason is their pick.

  327. Juno Said,

    SPOILER – I’m sorry ladies (well, actually I’m not sorry because it means that me and Lincee are right and I love!! being right) but the guy in that limo is definitely NOT Jesse. But for all we know, the producers have decided to give the sleuthers a run for their money this season and are having De meet the limo instead of OHCH…so maybe it is Jason, but he is arriving, and it doesn’t mean anything.

    I think that De has been portrayed to be very serious and bent on marriage no matter what and sort of a poop but I think what we haven’t seen (except glimpses) is her down to earth, fun loving side….I guess we saw it a little when she outdrove all the guys at the racetrack and also when we saw how comfortable and warm she was with all four families on the hometown dates. And also, if you tend to be a little bit overly serious about stuff, your very best match could be with someone who can make you laugh at your obsessiveness (Jesse) and not jump right in and overly obsess with you (Jeremy).

    I think that her statement (if it’s true, who knows) that F3 hurt him but F2 hurt HER, means Jeremy is F3 and Jason is F2. If she’s not all that into Jesse, it wouldn’t hurt HER to let him go as F2 and if she is all that into him, then for many reasons (geography, stepmom issues, religion issues, whatever)..Jesse’s the better choice of the final 2.

    I know a lot of people have been hatin’ on Jesse’s hair and weird clothes and stuff but look at it this way – it’s the look he needs to cultivate in order to do his job. No one would say anything about hair, tattoos or whatever if he was a rock star – that’s how they are EXPECTED to look for what it is they’ve chosen to do. The way Jesse looks is the way he is expected to look to be an X games athlete/snowboarder. He won’t always affect that look – I mean, Sean Penn now doesn’t really look anything like Jeff Spicoli, does he? :)

    I still pick Jesse for F1!!! Goooooo Jesse!!!

  328. Sher Said,

    **SPOILER**

    According to the FORT sleuthers, the F1 is not Jesse. They are saying that she is told something about Jesse from someone close to her (maybe OHCH or a producer)…that he was there for endorsements and has a gf. They are saying that is why cutting the F3 hurt him and the F2 hurt her…bc she was upset when she found out this information.

  329. bach addict Said,

    322 Cat – She also told him he was a really good man TWICE while they had a voiceover going on. He’s my choice. But in the “I could see a forever with him” she was wearing a different outfit and did not say who “him” is & you know how they play editing games. I’d love for it to be Jason though…he’s dreamy… HA! I’m SOOOOOO married.

    323 Sher – I’m glad someone agrees with me.

    ATFR is being taped next week… :o ) I would loooooooooooove to be there.

  330. Juno Said,

    Sher, the FORT sleuthers are not always right.

  331. Juno Said,

    SPOILER – besides, if what they are speculating is true, she wouldn’t be HURT…she’d be PISSED. I find it very very difficult to believe that the producers would permit someone to be on the show for endorsement purposes only, or even that someone would go on the show for that primary purpose. It would inevitably come out and being a lying snake is not a good endorsement for…well…pretty much anything. So I just hafta part ways with the FORT people on this one. I will believe that he just broke up with someone or maybe even hadn’t quite broken up with someone and was going on the show to test the waters – but that’s not the same thing as “having a girlfriend” in the sense of intending to go back to her after you pitch your goods on national TV. I just don’t believe that.

  332. Sher Said,

    #326 bach addict :)

    #327 Juno, yeah, but I think they have some girl with inside scoop from production or something who seems to know what happened….dono, I guess we will have to wait and see, but I’m betting she is right.

    bach addict – not sure if they’ve already picked their people, but you should get on the list to go to ATFR so you can give us scoop.

  333. Juno Said,

    Sher – would this be the same person with the “inside scoop” that Graham was going to leave early because of a family crisis? :)

  334. Sher Said,

    #328 Juno, yeah you wouldn’t think ABC would do that, and definitely wouldn’t want us to find out if they did! The girl with the scoop said who knows if they will even air that part on the show, but that D found out. She also thought it was interesting how they blurred other brands’ logos, yet we kept seeing Jesse’s sponsor logo. I dono..will be curious to see what ends up happening.

  335. Sher Said,

    #330 Juno – Now Now! ;)

    Honestly, I don’t know if it was the same girl, bc I just started reading the FORT boards yesterday, so wasn’t reading them back when that scoop came out.

  336. bach addict Said,

    330 Juno – I think you’re referring to me b/c yes, I mentioned something about that on the last page, but I will say that I didn’t get that from FORT. i don’t even remember where it came from. like i’ve said all along, i’m sooooooooooo NOT the “scoop” person…so yes, i could be completely wrong with all of my interpretations. from what it sounds like though the sleuthers knew before that Fleiss would not air the whole reason that Graham “left” or what actually happened but that he made it clear of his decision which screwed up the F4 & F3. i guess we’ll hear from the people that went to the MTA after it airs.

  337. s2c Said,

    Omg i never saw so many posts on here! i can’t wait til Monday, saw a preview of the MTA and looked like Graham and D were testy w/ each other even then. Im gonna have to take up Jazzercise cuz every monday nite i buy a ceremonial pint of hagen daaz Baileys Irish cream flavor ice cream and unplug the phone.

  338. organza Said,

    Referring to someone as a jew is completely not offensive, good night nurse. That is PC talking. Man, has the PC world gone that far over the edge??? Jesus Christ Himself was “a Jew”. From the tribe of Judah. Doubt He would be offended if you referred to Him as a Jew.

  339. Darryl Said,

    #334: If Graham wasn’t hurt he wouldn’t have been testy with her at MTA. Looking at the recaps, I think he was into more than he lets on. I can imagine she scared the hell out of him. He seemed angry with her at the ceremonial dumping. But, if he really cared about her, he would give her closure by letting her know it is over. This is what caused her so much problems with Brad.

    I think it is telling that he was angry with her and he said they couldn’t be friends. If he didn’t want her, then he would have no problem being friends.

    My opinion is that he is inept with women. Watching him try to romance her was painful. He had no game. Things were fine until he opened his mouth.

  340. s2c Said,

    # 336 I think maybe when he said (during conference calls and interviews after he was sent home) that he could not have fallen in love w/ D-Ahh, etc, he might have been saying that as a direct message that he knew she would read or hear about. Maybe he had not been clear enough in his letter? If he gave her that letter that was meant as a “goodbye”, he must not have been clear enough if after reading it she was “second-guessing” her decision… it must have given her some kind of hope that he felt something for her. So maybe he said those things afterwards, in the conference calls, to make it clear to her and hopefully provide more closure.

  341. Sher Said,

    It looks like they are wearing Graham’s 46 shirts in this pic: http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/bachelorette-spoilers-speculation/75714-mta-possible-spoilers-159.html

  342. Sher Said,

    Ha! http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/nn123/theboysandgirls/IMG_0317.jpg

  343. Sher Said,

    #308 Darryl – here’s another interview with Graham talking about his bars: http://forums.jokersupdates.com/ubbthreads/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=TheBachelorette&Number=9229080&page=0&view=expanded&sb=5&o=&rc=&fpart=1

  344. Darryl Said,

    Thanks Sher! It is just like I thought. He really wanted her but was crushed that she booted him at number 4. Also, she was way too emotional for him – she talks about her feelings 120% of the time. I find this coupling so compelling because it is like my own marriage. When I get angry I don’t say anything. I thought Graham was opening up when he told her “It doesn’t feel like we are alone”. She slammed him a couple of times for that comment. Then later she said, “You don’t open up!”. It drives a rationale person like Graham crazy.

    But I have no doubt he wanted her. She just couldn’t read his subtle signals. Now he is rewriting history. But, he did admit that he was just as hurt as her. I think she blew it because she wanted to blame everything on her. Life for a diva is tough. Everything resolves around Deahnna. In her opinion Graham failed her. Graham thinks “she likes them better – end of story. Time to move on”.

  345. s2c Said,

    Hey sorry if this is already posted but isnt this OHCH ? and whats his name haha

    http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/6/27/f_lc849ed3a54m_f259b6b.jpg

  346. Kristin Said,

    OHCH is kinda….skinny! Very Hollywood, I’m sure.

  347. Kathy Said,

    I read in an interview with Graham that he originally said ‘NO’ to being on the show b/c of a family crisis during the interview process. They still offered it to him without him going through the interviews, maybe that is where the rumor of him leaving early started, or else maybe the family issue was ongoing which made him leave early???

  348. wannabeDD Said,

    These pictures are very confusing to me. Everyone is smiling and posing for pictures (as if they are official ABC pictures)…including Jeremy…why is he out in the open? If these are really ABC pictures, then why aren’t they hiding Jeremy? It makes me wonder if things are really going to go down the way they seem…

  349. MissingMeeps Said,

    Juno, I would be tempted to say that no one would want to be on a huge tv show and portray themselves in a light that would be negative and follow them after the show…but we have seen it – time and time again that seeming smart, intelligent people do it! They are edited – to make a story…but if you don’t say anything questionable, they can’t use it! Jesse probably thought it would be great fun, especially after his MTV thing and he would make money. The producers probably thought this wild card would liven things up. He has too! Jesse probably thought he would not progress long…and that is where he ended up in a precarious position. JMO! lol

    Can’t wait to see how the rest of the show is portrayed!

  350. MissingMeeps Said,

    wannebeDD – these are not ABC pictures, these are pictures that were taken when the contestants from this season decided to get together off the set and talk about their experiences…and some of the photos came from their myspace pages, etc… They were found and posted by fans.

    I think the fans at FORT could become real investgators – solve the greatest mysteries, they are very dedicated and detailed. I am very impressed!

  351. Fantasy Land Said,

    One of the most interesting things for me in reading these comments (or, to be more accurate, some of the comments on FORT) is how so many people will project their own feelings/desires onto this show. Like, a lot of people who say that Graham really DID love DD but was just scared or wasn’t comfortable displaying it on the show, etc.

    Some of that talk has stopped since Graham has started giving interviews that no, he definitely was not in love with DD. But in response to his statement to the reporter that he would give “no comment” on the edit of DD that leaves something out — a PURELY negative and rude statement, in my opinion — I think someone said “maybe he meant that we missed seeing her fun-loving, awesome side.” LOL! If he meant something nice, he would have said it. He said other nice things about her in the interview. He also said he was not in love with her and never could be, cameras or no cameras.

    And just watch his body language when they are together, particularly when they are hugging goodbye before she leaves the hometown date. He smiles but pulls his face back to avoid a kiss — very common move for Graham! The only time he seemed truly happy to be around her was when she first arrived at his hometown, but obviously that didn’t last.

    I just find it interesting how it’s often very typical for some of us women (or hell, men too) to create a fantasy based on what they desperately want to believe. (Please don’t be affended if you are one of the ppl who thought this about Graham. I’m sure you’re a lovely person and I would be psyched to go to Jazzercise with you after gorging on Spring Oreos together.)

    DD herself is one of the biggest culprits of this fantasy-land mentality. I am SO TIRED of hearing her or ABC say that Brad rejected her “twice.” He rejected you once, sweetie. Once and done. Then you built up a fantasy world in which he would come crawling back on the ATFR show. I always wondered if someone at ABC encouraged her to believe that, which would be pretty crappy. More likely she just decided, “How could you possibly pass this up?!?” Ugh.

    Also, it seems very clear to me based on her state of mind after rejecting Graham (angry with him) and Graham’s comments (“Your decision is easy now”) and Graham’s interview comments that “it was more mutual than you will ever see” that he totally indicated to someone at ABC that he did not want a rose and that it was time for him to leave. That’s why DD was so pissed and hurt. Even though he went emotionally MIA on the bench, she would have kept him around to spend a whole day with him on the Fantasy Suite date and test his actions some more. No, he wanted to leave and she was pissed and hurt. I think it was nice of Graham to at least let everyone believe she dumped him, instead of him leaving her hanging and saying, “I will not accept that rose.” OMG! Imagine what would have happened then.

  352. "Marriage is Forever" Said,

    Okay, random gripe here. We have witnessed DD say multiple times, both on this show and Brad’s season, that “When I get married, I’m only getting married once. Marriage, to me, is forever.” And, of course, whoever she says this to nods and agrees, and then they both congratulate themselves for being so serious about marriage.

    This is such an immature statement. Just about EVERYONE thinks their marriage is the only one they’ll have and that it will last forever. And the divorce rate is still, what, 60%? (Not to mention who knows the divorce rate for desperate girls who go on reality tv shows, try to get engaged within 6 weeks and pop out 3 babies in 36 months to meet some ridiculous goal).

    I’m just saying. This is such a self-righteous and clueless comment to make. And FYI I say this not as a bitter divorcee. If anything, I say it as someone who is a little afraid to get married because it seems like most people, in my generation at least, have such a hard time making it work! In conclusion, get over yourself, DD.

    Random thought here, and I know now I’m just being flat-out mean. Maybe DD would have better luck falling in love and finding the right person if she focused a little more on her own life and interests instead of constantly thinking about falling in love and talking about nothing other than her feelings. Snore. Am I right?

  353. MissingMeeps Said,

    Marriage is Forever, I just want to say that the divorce rate is so high IMHO because people think LOVE will make them HAPPY…that love from the “right” person will make their life fulfilled, _______, or fill in the blank with the appropriate word for you…(excited, have butterflies…etc.) It can give you that temporarily, but it is because of what we believe about it. When the happy part is gone then people begin to look for someone else.

    In the real world, happiness comes from within and our circumstances and the people around us don’t have that much to do with it. Even if someone is “mean” to us we still decide how to feel and interpret their actions. I am just saying. :)

  354. bach addict Said,

    349 & 350 – Yes, we’re on a random tangent here. And yes, I’m married. My husband & I were very clear from the get go on this issue. We of course believe in marriage as a forever thing, but we needed to look around us and realize that the divorce rate is sky high and people don’t marry with intentions of having a divorce. Could I live without my husband? Yes. Would life be more difficult? Most definitely brutal. We went through a year of counseling, Christian counseling to be exact, before we got married. I truly believe this has helped us sooooooooo much with our communication, knowing the root of happiness is circumstances, knowing true joy comes from our faith and not anything we create ourselves, and knowing times will STINK and we’ll still be trucking through it together. And on top of that, we have a 6 year age gap – which affects both of our timelines so we’ve learned that we’ll have to throw our life plan checklist out of the window & instead focus on needs and what is actually the best, not what we want. :o )

  355. Graham insight Said,

    You never know the truth to these stories, but I love them either way…Got this in an email from a friend…

    A friend of a friend dated Patrick from Chicago, who I don’t even remember. Apparently he left the first night, and all she said was that he was the one who danced for the friend (Jenni?) I don’t remember this, but whatever. Anyway, kelly’s sister went on a few dates with Patrick before the show, but they still stay in touch now, and I guess Patrick and Graham became friends on the show, so he was able to find out what happened!!! So I guess when it was the 4 of them left, Deanna told the producers she was planning on picking Graham at the end, and they went to graham (whether she knew about this or not I don’t know) and told him, and had to make sure he would say yes in the end, since they needed a happy ending. And he just said he would not say yes, so she had to let him go. I don’t know if they made her kick him off or not, but if this is all true, it sort of makes sense because he would have known it was coming, which is probably why he felt the need to write her that letter or whatever. I’m interested to see what he has to say on Monday. So did he just not really like her? Or do you think he just can’t commit? Oh, the other weird part of this update is that he’s apparently now dating and LIVING WITH some actress from Days of Our Lives. ??? WHAT? How do you go from not having a girlfriend for more than 4 weeks to suddenly living with someone, and someone famous at that? I am still puzzled, but I think this insight does explain a few things.

    Thoughts, anyone???

  356. AggieFan Said,

    bach addict #351 comment,

    You are sooooo right on. My husband and I went through “Engagement Encounter”, which is a type of Christian marriage counseling before we got married. It truly helped us to understand our strengths and our weaknesses where our relationship was concerned; where to spend time focusing and where to find the root of a happy marriage. You are right on! I am so glad to hear that other people actually take the time to focus on the actual relationship working before just saying “I do”. We found it funny that when we went to get our marriage license that the county courthouse gave us a book that they “recommended” we read over and discuss before getting married. Most people don’t even look at the book. After they take out all the religious references, many of the things the book asks you self-examine and discuss with each other are the same things in the Christian counseling sessions. So many people just jump into marriage because they feel those butterflies and then when those butterflies go away, the marriage starts to fall apart. It is so sad. More people should build the foundation for a good marriage before getting married and the divorce rate would significantly drop. Okay, I’m off my soap box now…..

  357. loving this Said,

    #352 that totally makes sense to me. we’ll never know the whole story, dang it. she had her heart set on him, he wasn’t buying into the program, they got him out of there. so now what? 2nd choice, with no chance of long-term success? or honesty at the home depot pedestal… the one she wanted got away and it’s not fair to anyone else to lead them on?? great season …. don’t like her, not wild about any of the guys, but it’s been a great season!!

  358. s2c Said,

    # 352, that does make sense and kind of goes with the interviews with Graham that Ive read the last few days. The thing that I still dont understand is, why after reading the “goodbye” letter, would she say that she is second guessing her decision? All I can think are 3 possibilities – 1) he just was not clear enough in that letter that he never wanted to see her again, 2) He WAS clear enough and she was in such denial that she read what she wanted to, or 3) (hopefully ) they edited it to look like she said that after she read the letter. Or maybe all 3 :)

  359. Darryl Said,

    Another possibility is that at the time he really liked her. He seemed surprised and clueless about how she felt about him. The first thing he said was “You can believe that if it makes you feel better. But it is not true.” Also, he was angry at first and then he said, “It would be a great deal to me if you read the letter.” I think he got over her fast and now wants to distance himself. She is really self-involved. I mean everything resovles around Deahnna. Once he stepped away from fantasy land, he realized she has more than her share of warts. I couldn’t stand her during the Brad HTC thing. She was such a bitch IMHO. Now she is the queen been and acting the diva. I think he is thanking God that he dodged that trainwreck.

  360. Some Guy Said,

    Dang. So I just got back in town from a short business trip and there are 350+ comments. My dear wife had a few of the pictures that were posted on the FORT site from the MTA episode. Looks like we have some interesting episodes ahead of us.

    It was also fun to see pictures of the rejected bachelors mixing with the rejected bachelorettes. I still heart Noelle. Too bad we only got 50 minutes per episode of that season.

    Does anyone else think that Jeremy missed an opportunity to show Reunion Tower off since they did the Space Needle? I don’t think his apartment is too far — it looked like the neighborhood rejuvenation stuff between Deep Ellum and Fair Park. I’d have to go back and watch that scene again to get my bearings and perspective on the balcony view. And who makes giant post-it notes to study? Anyone? I didn’t see a single giant post-it used for studying during my undergrad or MBA, and I know my lawyer friends used a new-fangled gadget called a notepad (legal perhaps?) for their studying.

  361. s2c Said,

    On Monday, July 14 at 8:00/7:00c look for the one-hour special “The Bachelorette: Engagement Party.”

    http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=7688

  362. s2c Said,

    oops

    http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=7688

    On Monday, July 14 at 8:00/7:00c look for the one-hour special “The Bachelorette: Engagement Party.”

  363. s2c Said,

    http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=7688 “On Monday, July 14 at 8:00/7:00c look for the one-hour special “The Bachelorette: Engagement Party.”

  364. s2c Said,

    On Monday, July 14 at 8:00/7:00c look for the one-hour special “The Bachelorette: Engagement Party.”
    http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=7688

  365. Nikki Said,

    Lincee…Brad Womack sighting in Houston last night – at the Porch Swing. And let me tell ya…HTC doesn’t even describe it.

  366. Juno Said,

    Some Guy – I’m a lawyer and I make up those giant chart things all the time. It’s useful to be able to lean back in my chair and stare at the chart and just ponder on a bunch of related stuff and how it connects together. I usually use a white board, but also sometimes use those ginormous sheets of paper.

    What I do NOT understand, however, is why anyone would leave them up, after they have finished with the thing for which they were created (e.g., studying for the bar), especially if they were going to be having company armed with video cameras. Especially someone with an OCD closet. The explanation that the intern thought, for some bizarre reason, that it looked good or was interesting and so insisted on it, is the only one that makes sense to me.

  367. MissingMeeps Said,

    Does anyone know more about this…?

    On Monday, July 14 at 8:00/7:00c look for the one-hour special “The Bachelorette: Engagement Party.”

    I want details people!

  368. Raves4Richard Said,

    This is supposed to be Jesse’s ex girlfriend, Megan….the one he dumped via txt message: will we ever know the truth??? lol

    http://www.zerogloves.com/images/Photo%20Gallery/Jesse%20Pix/FF/4.jpg

  369. Raves4Richard Said,

    Check out this video of DD (DeDe) with stuff from her high school days, tells us where the DeDe came from, apparently her teachers could not pronounce DeAHna…

    http://www.wsbtv.com/video/16724297/index.html

    Monday, Monday!!!

  370. cat Said,

    Holy crap Missing meeps – I wonder what that means??? I don’t have Tivo or DVR so I can’t see the listings on July 14 yet. I wonder if Jason and DD got engaged???????? Or DD and Jesse….since we know its probably not Jeremy.

  371. Lovin'MondaysForOnce Said,

    Here is an article I found on-line that explains the homewrecker t-shirt…the rumor is that the president of Zero Gloves left her husband for Jesse. Megan is supposedly the girlfriend that Jesse dumps via text message during the shooting of the show… So here Zero is quoted at saying the t-shirts were printed in response to the rumor…which makes “zero” sense to me… How can you print a shirt in response to a rumor that surfaces during the viewing of the show that was already filmed???!! lol

    Here is is for those of you bored and waiting for Monday – like me! lol

    “Tuesday, June 17, 2008
    Des Moines Register Front Page Business Section w/PHOTO!!
    Biz Buzz: TV’s competing bachelor perfect fit for gloves maker

    LYNN HICKS & DAVID ELBERT • business@dmreg.com • June 17, 2008

    A fourth-generation glove company in Fairfield has discovered viral marketing, thanks to blogs and “The Bachelorette.”

    Megan and Nicole Hunt, sisters who run Fairfield Line Inc., which makes a variety of work, gardening and other gloves, have attracted attention for their Zero brand of snowboarding gloves.

    One of Zero’s pitchmen is Jesse Csincsak, a professional snowboarder and one of the bachelors on the reality show “The Bachelorette,” which airs Mondays on ABC. At this writing, Bachelor Jesse continues to charm Bachelorette DeAnna Pappas, so he remains on the show. (Or so June Lowenberg, Fairfield Line’s marketing guru, explained to Buzz, who can smugly claim to have never seen the show.)

    Csincsak wears Zero items on each episode, which has driven up traffic to http://www.zerogloves.com. Lowenberg said page views have spiked to 7,500 as visitors have hit on photos of Csincsak.

    “There is a whole sleuthing organization out there that blogs and speculates on this show,” Lowenberg explained. “Who the heck has the time to do this sort of thing?”

    These bloggers have also speculated on a romantic link between Csincsak and Zero President Megan Hunt, Lowenberg said, which has produced some nasty e-mails and calls. That inspired the Zero team to create a “Home Wrecker” T-shirt, which Csincsak has worn on the show.

    “Bachelorette” fans are ordering the T-shirts, but the attention has not translated into glove sales so far. But hey, it’s June.”

  372. Some Guy Said,

    Juno – we use them at work as well. I guess I just studied differently – like moved from place to place depending on what was going on or who I was studying with. Spirals and notepads were more practical for that sort of studying. Whiteboards and ginormous paper works great for work, though.

  373. Sher Said,

    This page has a video of DD on the beach. http://pacificcoastnewsonline.celebuzz.com/2008/06/deanna-pappas-in-a-sexy-red-bi.html

  374. Jeanne Said,

    Jesse owns two homes in Breckenridge, a VERY expensive community, and is sponsored by several companies.
    I’ve seen interviews with him and he seems like a genuine guy. I have my doubts as to whether DD could adjust to a professional athletes travel and competition lifestyle. She’s probably too uptight for Jesse. He better hang his snowboard at Lincee’s place!

  375. cc Said,

    I was clicking through some bachelorette links and came across one that claimed DD has a profile up on millmatch.com (a website for ‘wealthy men and beautiful women’) … I didn’t want to create an account to find out, but thought one of you sleuths might know more about this – i can’t believe it would be legit…

  376. Jenny Said,

    I was in NYC on Saturday and I was sooooooo tempted to stop by one of Graham’s bars…but sadly I did not have time to get over there. Someday I will though…gotta get a pic with him…preferably with his shirt off!!! Yum!

  377. Missy Said,

    #368–that was spam.

  378. Sue Said,

    #369 Jenny—where are his bars?!?! I so want to stop by and get a pic! Sorry if someone already posted where they are, I’m so busy I don’t have time to read all the comments….

  379. Jenny Said,

    They are on Second Ave and 42nd. I can’t remember off the top of my head what they were called…it was in one of the links above with an article on Graham. He is a part owner in two bars.

  380. E Said,

    Poor sue- she actually works at her job instead of reading bachelorette blog comments all day. where are your priorities sue? : )

  381. E Said,

    has anyone else like planned their entire week around this show tonight? i am so excited!!!

  382. Jenny Said,

    Sue (371) the link to the article was in post 340. Here is what he said about the bars…

    Calico Jack’s and McFadden’s, on 42nd and Second. There are several investors and owners, and I own a small percentage, but it’s still pretty cool to have your name attached to it.

  383. Amy Said,

    Calico Jack’s and McFadden’s are Graham’s bars

  384. Amy Said,

    Missing Meeps… where did you see that description on July 14th? I looked on tvguide.com and it just says TBA

  385. tk Said,

    I googled it and maybe it is for Shayne and Matt? They didn’t have an ATFR…

  386. Sue Said,

    Oh my god! I actually won a happy hour at Calico Jack’s a few weeks ago! That is too funny. I should have collected on it, but I was going out of town. I’ll definitely be heading back now!

  387. Casey Said,

    I didn’t have time all last week to read all of the great comments you guys always make. I came this morning to check it out and my comment makes 380. Are you kidding me!? You guys are nuts!

  388. Casey Said,

    p.s. #364: That article makes ZERO sense. Wasn’t it Brian (TX) who wore the “Homewrecker” shirt and not Jesse??

  389. Desperate Times... Said,

    Latest random prediction! Okay, so up until now we’ve been led to think DD doesn’t find love at the end of this “journey.” But with some recent rumors of the outcome, it seems maybe ABC has been messing with us and she does end up “happily” engaged, probably to Jason. Here’s why…

    1. If DD ended this season “broken-hearted” or pulling a Brad, would they really torture her further by including all that junk in the beginning of the season about how she BELIEVES in the process and WILL find her husband and fall in love? It just seems extra cruel. Deserved, maybe, but cruel.

    2. She is still totally hung up about Brad, which is weird, because most of the rejected bachelorettes at in the F2 get over the initial “heartbreak” in, like, 5 seconds once they realize they were just caught up in the tide of the show and the bachelor is usually kind of a douche. But DD has really hung onto this “unfair” rejection with frightening determination. Add that now to her heartbreak over Graham, and she may have determined that most men are evil with a capital E and will therefore cling to the safest guy, Jason, to salvage any of her remaining hopes of getting married within the next 6 months in an ABC wedding.

    3. Jason is the safest choice because he’s a harmless, good Dad, first-to-ask-DD-about-her-mother, first-to-pick-her-up-at-her-room-for-the-rose-ceremony, leapfrog playing, not-about-to-humiliate-her-even-when-she-doesn’t-know-about-the-space-needle, “good guy” who even comforts her after returning home from a bad date with other dudes and frankly would probably even comfort her over the loss of her “true” love, Graham.

    In conclusion, she’ll cling to the man who seems least likely to hurt her after she has suffered a string of attractive yet emotionally unavailable guys unwilling to settle down with the hot mess that is DD.

    p.s. I also predict the big secret she reveals tonight at MTA is that she has been engaged this whole time and never let on, which will surprise the heck out of us because it sure doesn’t SEEM like there’s exactly a match made in heaven here. Maybe they held back on us because otherwise we would have assumed it was Graham, or just to further mess with us.

  390. MC Said,

    Marriage is Forever- the 60% divorce rate is no longer….I just read on Friday that the divorce rate is now down to 35%. *me sticking my tongue out at you* j/k…

    its obvious you’ve been hurt by love…sorry for that….just try to be optimistic, one day you’ll be in it again. (and no, i’m not married)

    as far as the DD meeting contestants at the limo for FRC, I don’t think this is the case, in the previews you see her standing by the home depot pedestals waiting…and Missing Meeps, the pic you’re seeing where you’re convinced it’s jesse…thats the pic with the overlay.

  391. OSU Girl Said,

    Marriage is Forever–I totally agree with you, and Fantasy Land too…From what I’ve heard, the divorce rate is still at LEAST 60%, and rising. And you’re right–I have never heard anyone say, “So I’m getting married, but no biggie if it doesn’t work out down the road; I’ll just get a divorce!” No. Everyone I know thinks their marriage will last forever. What people don’t realize is that it takes so much more than the “Warm fuzzy” feelings. Those will go away, but love has to be a decision, or no marriage would last.

  392. Darryl Said,

    Does anyone think that Deahnna is a bit of drama queen? I think she has been ridiculous during the show. For example, she had everyone do push-ups to see who could talk to her. The whole Graham exit scene was like a movie of the girl friend from hell. Graham doesn’t kiss butt enough so she throws her own little pity party and tries to make him feel bad. I see a lot of “ME, ME ME” in her.

    There were other things, but some leave the question of whether it was Deahnna or some intern directing the action. Is it just me or doesn’t anyone think that the Bachelor’s are getting gypped?

  393. loving this Said,

    Lincee, 385 posts in one week! Has to be a record of some kind! Do you read them and laugh at what you’ve spawned?? Could webMan put up a page (as you did last week) so your loyal fans can start posting before the recap is up? I enjoy it when everyone posts on the same page, so that we’re not cking the Debate page, the still on team jesse page, etc. Thanks! Looking forward to tonight :)

  394. MC Said,

    #384–OSU girl….someone did say that, actually….Cameron Diaz in The Sweetest Thing. haha ;)

  395. Sher Said,

    #385, I think she might be a drama queen. Would love to know what Graham meant about the comment on missing something in the edit of DDAH.

    I WISH I had known which ones Graham’s bars were a few weeks ago when I was in NY. My butt would have been there trying to get a pic! #379 Sue – you need to score one for us!

  396. Sue Said,

    well Graham was definitely not at Calico Jack’s the night I was there. Granted, it was before The Bachelorette had started so i wouldn’t know to look for him, but I definitely would have noticed him. :) I’ll have to hit it up again soon.

  397. jill Said,

    The preview for tonight’s show is finally on the ABC website. It shows the clip with the tiff between DD & Graham. Can’t wait til tonight! ;)

  398. jill Said,

    Okay i know I totally need to get a life, but I just went back and looked at the spoiler shot (where it looks like Jesse’s hair and she’s shutting the limo… I think the one that #309 posted), it looks like the same dress and hairstyle that she had at the rose ceremony on tonights show when she says goodbye to the 3rd and narrows it down to F2. Could that be Jeremy in the limo where she is wearing the turquoise dress?

  399. OSU Girl Said,

    #387-MC. That’s too funny. I’ve never seen that movie. Is it worth watching (I mean, besides for it’s obviously GREAT values about marriage ;) ?

  400. Sher Said,

    #389 Sue -yes, please do! Hit it up and throw the rest of us a bone! (wow, I am pathetic!!!)

  401. MC Said,

    #392-OSU girl…definitely! it’s a great chick flick….2 hours and counting for me…can’t wait!

  402. Sher Said,

    Some of the bachelors/bachelorettes post over on the FORT site. Here is an interesting one from Noelle talking about hanging out with the guys last weekend after MTA:

    “Of course I still check in with my beloved FORTers from time to time!

    I know that you guys are in a pretty deep discussion here about MTA, so if someone needs to move my post elsewhere, that’s fine. I just wanted to gush for a moment…

    I had the privilege of mingling with all of the “rejected” guys this past weekend and I felt the need to share with the world. These men are UNBELIEVABLE! I will admit, I’ve watched this season from day one and I thought maybe there were some cute ones or nice ones…whatever. But let me just assure you that this group is the cream of the crop!! I now fully understand why Deanna cried each time she had to let one go. I tip my hat (if I actually wore one) to that woman. She had a TOUGH job.

    I’m 26 and still single (obviously), and feel like there is a lot of junk that has to be sifted through before finding a treasure. Meeting these men was like walking into a gold mine. QUALITY everywhere I looked. And I don’t mean physically (because it’s blindingly obvious that they’re a bunch of hotties ) but i have never met so many sincere, true intentioned, intelligent, GENTLEMEN in my life! I was truly blown away and feel like I walked away with real friendships I will treasure. Not to mention a crush or two..

    I guess I just wanted to thank them for restoring my faith in good men. And let any ladies who are in my position know that we don’t have to compromise our standards or settle for anything less than greatness….it exists.

    Much love to all you FORTers!
    -Noelle (season 12)”

  403. firestone4eva Said,

    I really appreciate the info from FORT. That website is too much for me to navigate. And yes, DeDe is a total drama queen and so not worthy of these guys. Reading was Noelle had to say about them confirmed what I’ve been thinking…they all dodged a bullet by not getting a rose!

  404. Sher Said,

    #396, no problem. I have spent WAY too much time on that website, and it is definitely confusing! Figure I’ll post the really good stuff here for everyone to read.

  405. s2c Said,

    Ive thought about it and out of the 3 left, Jeremy is the only one who might devote 100% of himself to D, which is sad in a way but true. Jason has his son and lives far away, and Jesse told his dad he wasnt ready to get married right away, and cool as he is I dont think he is her type. Jeremy has class but he also likes to race cars and take risks, does not live as far, and I think that he would probably bend over backwards to make her happy. He isnt who I would pick for myself but for her he makes sense to me.

  406. MC Said,

    ugh…talk about an overkill of the open eyed kisses from DD tonight…it’s so annoying!!!

  407. s2c Said,

    maybe she is afraid they will run away

  408. Sher Said,

    Wow, that was like the cruelest ending I’ve ever seen….heartbreaking!! I thought maybe he was gonna get sick at the end!

  409. Dallas Girl Said,

    Jeremy is an asshole. I’m glad he went home tonight. He cheated on my friend. My firend who has lost both of her parents. He has definitely “shared that connection” with someone else. He sits there and says this crap about never being in love. Maybe he never truly loved my friend – but he definitely led her on to believe that. And made her get rid of her friends, and denied cheating on her even though we all saw Jeremy out with other girls while she was out of town. I am glad he got his heart broken. Though he has been having “watch parties” at a local bar here every Monday. If he was truly heart broken, would he be wanting everyone to see it, or is he just trying to get sympathy from unsuspecting girls.

  410. Sher Said,

    #402 Dallas Girl – Wow, really?? He seemed so genuine tonight! Just out of curiosity, where are these watch parties?

  411. loving this Said,

    #402 Dallas Girl – whoops, that was a spoiler… it’s still on here in Denver. No prob, can’t wait to see him fall apart after your inside scoop about him. Yuck.

  412. Cat Said,

    I cannot believe there are 404 posts already! Anyway Dallas girl wow thanks for speaking up. I actually started to really feel sorry for him tonight. I didn’t like him all season and everyone else seemed to love him and I just didn’t get it. But the guys saw through him! So glad he is gone. I loved DD’s chemistry with Jason and jesse….I wonder who she’ll pick!

  413. Laughing in Dallas Said,

    Can I tell you how hard I was laughing at the WTA outtakes and OHCH’s comments regarding Sean….Love it!!

  414. sara from tx Said,

    I giggled outloud tonight at Dede’s blue satin dress with the bow! I normally would have said, “Aw, how pretty”…….but I knew you girls were gonna tear her up!

    I was sad for Jeremy, but Dallas girl, if you really know what you’re talking about, I’m just fine with how that ended.

    Does it seem to y’all that Graham acted like he still had feelings for Dede? His expressions, mannerisms, etc………he just seemed upset still.

    Can’t wait to read what Lincee has to say! (Go Jason!!!, who is my secret lover)

  415. Big Red Said,

    I will probably post again to the recap, but just in case any of you can answer my question. During the MTA, what was the last thing Jeremy said to DD?? I’ve replayed it 20 times and no one in my house can decipher it. He mumbled something to her after she gave her big speech about how ‘perfect’ he was. There was a long pause and then ‘mumble mumble mumble too’. I even called my mother and replayed it for her over the phone. At first we all thought he said ‘I love you too’ but that wasn’t it. It’s driving us crazy!!!

  416. Cat Said,

    Big Red I think he said “well me too” when she said she was wishing so bad that there was something more there. It sounded like he said “well me too”.

  417. Maggie Said,

    He said “I did too” referring to him wanting her to feel something for him as he did for her.

  418. Sher Said,

    #409 Cat, that’s what i thought he said.

  419. Cat Said,

    DD seems so over Graham – I love it! But he did seem like he still might have had feelings for her (that is until after they met up with all the girls from season 11 and he met Amanda (meeps) :) I think I read somewhere that there is someone he wants to ask out… wonder if its her?

  420. LM Said,

    #391 Jill… I totally thought that too! Once I saw the dress she was wearing at the rose ceremony, I thought it looked familiar. I went back to that picture to check, and it really does look like the same outfit. Maybe that picture is of Jeremy. Who knows, it could be anybody. I guess we’ll find out for sure next week!

  421. Big Red Said,

    Thanks Cat!!! I went back again and that IS what he said! Glad you are better at deciphering than I am!

  422. sf Said,

    Dallas Girl and Sher, I didn’t like Jeremy all season, either, but tonight I thought he was being genuinely sweet, so I felt pretty awful for him when DD sent him home. If he really is a jerk, though, it makes me feel much better! I did think the whole bit where he made the driver stop the car so he could get out and lean on a tree was so staged and way overly dramatic. He did look like he was near tears tonight when he was on the hot seat, and did you see his reaction when DD announced that she was engaged? He looked like he was in pain.
    I wasn’t a big Graham fan all season, either, but I thought he did himself proud tonight. He came off more as a shy or reserved person who wasn’t going to be bullied into doing and saying whatever DD wanted him to. I had to laugh when he got pulled into someone’s commentary near the end of the show (I can’t remember who was talking), and he held up his hands and said, “How did I end up in this discussion?” I think he got very lucky when DD sent him home. I can’t believe she’s still so ticked off at him! You have to wonder just how much in love she is with whomever she chose at the end if Graham can still make her face turn red and have her practically spitting at him she’s so mad! She was rude to a couple of the guys, and I didn’t see any need for her snotty attitude. She should have taken the high ground, smiled and behaved politely even if she didn’t like being called “obssessive compulsive Deanna!”

  423. loving this Said,

    DD might be in love, and she might be engaged, but I think her feelings are still pretty strong for Graham…. she is still pissed he couldn’t give her what she wanted!! Wasn’t Fred cute btw???

  424. Sher Said,

    #415 sf – I didn’t like Jeremy all season either, but saw him in a totally different light tonight! I felt so bad for him during both shows. I was really shocked to see Dallas Girl’s post though. If that is true, he must be a really, really good actor, because he came across as so sweet and genuinely crushed on tonight’s show. But if he is really a cheater, then I guess it’s true what they say: what goes around comes around! Yeah, that was pretty funny how pissed at Graham she was!

  425. Suzie Said,

    If what Dallas Girl says is true, then I feel better, but there are so many *rumors* out there – anyone can say anything about someone on the Internet! I thought Jeremy seemed very genuine and it broke my heart seeing him tonight. :( Go Jason! I can’t see her with Jesse long term.

    Love the FORT info – thanks to those of you willing to navigate those pages and share the juicy stuff!

    And whoever posted about her open eye kisses – that was totally bugging me, too! I kept silently willing her to shut her eyes. That’s just creepy!

    I also agree with those who say that she still seemed awfully hot & bothered by Graham for someone who’s in love & engaged!

  426. Sherri Said,

    Okay, A) LOVED OHCH tonight….hahahaha, mullet. He is my new best friend. B) I know alot of you think Graham is smokin’ hot, but does he sometimes remind anyone else of the cartoon version of the Grinch?
    C) Jason, Jason, Jason……

  427. Catherine Avril Morris Said,

    Dang, Dallas Girl — so glad you posted that. It seems like it must be true, too. That bit about Jeremy making your friend give up all her friends — that’s classic control-freak behavior. (And pre-physical or emotional abuse, in many cases. Isolating someone from their friends and family is one of the first signs that abuse is coming.)

    I really, strongly disliked Jeremy all season, until tonight, so I’m doubly glad you posted that so now I don’t have to feel so bad! I think he was genuinely upset — upset that the woman he thought he had in his controlling grasp was, in fact, out of his control, and his life.

    I’ve been on Team Jesse from the start, but I can’t get over the idea that he had any level of girlfriend when he came on the show!! Oh, I hope it isn’t true… I think that Jason has zero personality, which makes him perfect for DDah. She needs someone who has OCD (hahahaha — that was kinda awesome from that guy Ryan on the MTA, “Obsessive-Compulsive DeAnna”), and I think Jeremy is like bland oatmeal. He could be totally devoted to her, lick her feet, and consider himself lucky when she fires some bad-tempered, vain, self-absorbed crap at him, which she’ll probably do on a daily basis.

  428. Catherine Avril Morris Said,

    Oh, and OHCH — how funny is he!! His comedic talents are totally wasted on The Bachelor/ette!

  429. Lorraine Said,

    Did anyone else notice this…when they showed the suite Jesse and Meanna were going into, the curtain blew right onto a lit candle? LOL, I was soooo expecting it to go up in flames and the intern running out with a fire extinguisher :) Actually, it probably did, because when they walked in it wasn’t blowing around as much. They must have replaced the fire curtain with one that was weighted at the bottom.

  430. organza Said,

    Deanna looked pregnant to me…maybe she started right a way…with Jason.

  431. organza Said,

    I meant at the MTA. Not that she had a plan or a set schedule, wait, I thought she did…she told Jason her specific set plan and schedule yet oh but wait…she told Jesse she didn’t have one…did she, or didn’t she? Deanna was saying what the guys wanted to hear. She was/is soooooo annnnoyyyinnnnng.

  432. Sher Said,

    Interesting post over on FORT:
    “Sorry but I agree with all the men – I believe that Jeremy was just in it to either win her heart or even better, win a spot as the next Bachelor.

    For a guy who supposedly has a hard time opening up — following all the heartbreak in his life — to use the Bachelorette as his forum for doing so just seems a bit off to me; esp for a guy who works at a big law firm in Dallas. Huh??? Makes no sense. I always felt there was something hollow and a little too staged w/him … and I just can’t forget that article where his brother was quoted as saying Jeremy may want to see where this stint on Bachelorette goes in helping w/his modeling career (yes, I know the brother was supposedly misquoted but I would bet there is a grain of truth there). Compounding this are all the posts on other boards about Jer being a player and the fact that as a real estate attorney now is probably a great time to pursue his dream job w/ the market on a downward trend.

    And, it’s not that I am insensitive – far from it. But, I shed no tears tonight for Jeremy cause I just didn’t buy it … his reaction in the limo, making the car pull over … shoot, De looked a lot sadder than he did.”

  433. CHistheman Said,

    four words. i love chris harrison.

    Deffinitely the best part of the MTA show this evening!

  434. Lex Said,

    #423 – Thank you! She looked pregnant to me as well. I thought maybe I was just imagining it but her face looked fuller to me. I wonder if she does end up with Jason? Especially if she is pregnant that would make more sense with Jason that it would with Jesse. I couldn’t see Jesse starting a family right away.

  435. Chickpea Said,

    So, I think I managed to read all 400+ posts… but couldn’t watch tonite & haven’t figured this out:
    What on earth was DDahna’s “big secret”…?!?!?!?!

  436. Cathy Said,

    In the scenes for next week – did it look like Jesse cut his hair?? Maybe it’s just my eyesight ;)

  437. Sher Said,

    #428 Chickpea – that she is in love and engaged. That was it.

  438. AZGirl Said,

    #428…She’s engaged.

  439. Sher Said,

    A posting from Twilley on FORT about the Ryan DDah interaction on the MTA:
    “All i have to say is.. and I think any of the FORT there will agree.. the whole interaction with Ryan and DD was like watching a train wreck in slow motion, and it was a much longer train wreck than you got to see. It was like a train backing up after a wreck and crashing a second and third time, just to make sure all the passengers were dead.

    When he said she was confrontational.. I almost turned around and pimp slapped him in the face.. and said “Ryan… you are the most confrontational person I have ever met.. chill the heck out and quiet yourself”

    Seriously.. I think graham had to contain me.. I was shaking in my seat.”

  440. Chickpea Said,

    Thanks ladies. Interesting!

  441. Sher Said,

    Another good post from the Twilster:
    “actually.. i think all of us really felt for jeremy.. and we have all taken to him since the show. he is a great guy.. but remember.. at the time of the MTA we were still suppose to be going off our emotions from the show.. as some of us have come to know a different side of Jeremy.. we needed to be true to the show. and give insight to why we were so conflicted with him during the show. I hope that makes sense.

    I felt like Chris’ answer really summed it up the best with his statement. And yes.. Brian said it well too… but I personally never saw it as a jealousy thing.. more as a mutual respect issue. I can see why the audience and America would think otherwise though.. but I have to say.. it just wasn’t jealousy. We weren’t ever jealous of Graham, and he got 10 times the attention jeremy got.

    That being said.. I was really worried about tonite.. and thought Jer would get it a lot harder than he did.. and was happy that the blows were all softened a bit. I talked to him tonite.. and he is doing just fine. So everyone take a deep breath.. your adonis sleeps well tonite. =-)”

  442. Bachelor Fan Said,

    I heart Chris Harrison!! He definitely made the MTA episode. I love how he called D out and said, “you are pis$ed!” when she was smokin’ mad. Lincee, if you talk to your buddy Chris, let him know that I thought he was awesome. The show wouldn’t quite be the same w/o him and “the most dramatic season” comments.
    Interesting that Mr. Perfect Jeremy went home tonight…even though we all knew it was going to happen thanks to the spoilers.
    So now what?! Please don’t say its Jesse. I can’t handle that.
    Good twist on the hometown date w/ D’s family to have both guys show up. This should be good!

  443. Bachelor Fan Said,

    One more random thought….I can’t believe D was saying the 3 kids before 30 thing again. It has to be Jason…one down, two more [kids] to go.

  444. Lovin'MondaysForOnce Said,

    DD looked pregnant to me…a new roundness to her face…which would be totally crazy…and did she seem really orange looking to anyone else? Tan in a can or wierd lighting?

    I was really sad for Jeremy…I think when he left he was very shell-shocked. He would have liked to have talked to her more about her decision before the limo…JMO

  445. MissingMeeps Said,

    They keep showing that picture of DD and Jason swinging Ty between them – a glimpse of what is to come or what?

  446. s2c Said,

    # 237 – I think Ryan looked really really orange, unnaturally so. Wasnt he a virgin? He sure seemed like one angry, orange virgin dude.

  447. sara from tx Said,

    #437-Yes, Dede was way too orange! Not her fault-the make-up person’s fault.

    I can’t believe anyone out there thinks De was rude to Ryan. She had to shut him down b/c he confronted her like that in front of everyone to make her look stupid. What a DORKY, rude, sore loser.

    No one knows me, or cares, but I just found out my foot has a hairline fracture from twisting my ankle on the way into church Sunday. That’s what I get for wearing hoochie heels to church, and what was God trying to tell me? LOL.

  448. Sue Said,

    #422 Lorraine – “Meanna” Hahahaha…don’t know if that was a typo, but it was funny.

    #429 Cathy – yes, it does look like Jesse cut his hair!

    #439 – s2c – I said it once and I’ll say it again. Ryan just needs to get some; then he’ll chill. I don’t mean any disresepct to his decision to wait until marriage, but sheesh. lighten up!

    Did anyone else think Jeremy seemed wasted at dinner? His eyes were all glassy and he was almost slurring his words. Anyone else think he Deanna slept together? His comment about her spending the night with him seemed very telling.

    Twilly looks way better with his hair grown out.

    I heart Chris Harrison.

    #440 sara from tx — lol about your church injury. :)

  449. Kathy Said,

    I think it’s obvious that DD is still into Graham and very bitter. I also think Graham showed that same laid back/nothing gets to me attitude he had all season.

    I love OHCH…he made the show and seemed to have a great rapport with all the guys (except Ryan- why was he even there?)

  450. Jenny Said,

    #439 – OMG – LMAO!! “one angry, orange virgin dude”…classic!!!

  451. LovetoLaugh Said,

    MTA
    How hysterical was the flash back scene when Chris was talking to DD about the mullet?

  452. Missy Said,

    #439–”angry orange virgin dude”–ha! I will be laughing about that till lunch. He’s like a bitter Oompa Loompa, only taller! And I think the Oompa Loompas actually get a little something-something…

    And to all the OHCH lovers–I am totally with you girls–he is hilarious! When he said, “admit it, Sean is just one good haircut away from your heart, isn’t he?” I lost it!!

  453. organza Said,

    Pssssst, postin’ peeps, Lincee opened up another thread whilst writing the recap…

  454. harvi4 Said,

    Was it men tell all or the Jeremy, Graham and Ryan show?

  455. Lorraine Said,

    #441 Sue – Meanna was not a typo – I think she’s been shown talking about herself or what the guy’s can do for her an awful lot

  456. yellow cab dallas tx Said,

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  457. Ellen Said,

    #422-Yes, I also think Deanna is snotty and also rude at times. She kinda stamps her feet and pouts, too, when things don’t go her way

  458. Ellen Said,

    #422-Yes, I also think Deanna is snotty and also rude at times. She kinda stamps her feet and pouts, too, when things don’t go her way
    #423-Yes, I really really thought Fred was cute ;) I hope it worked out with the girl who asked him out on ‘After the Final Rose’ She seemed genuine
    #403-Yes I agree 100% DD is quite a Drama Queen
    #427-Bad tempered, self absorbed and vain lol that says it all-oh except I’d like to add whiny to the list lol; any guy that Deanna sends home is lucky as far as I’m concerned
    #429-’Me’anna lmao!!! And I totally agree ;p
    #431-Yes! When she mentioned that she pictured herself with Jason she saw her life planned out & that’s not who she is, I was thinking WHAT? Yo DD you just told Jason you wanted 3 kids in four years!! I don’t think she knows what she wants in a guy, except that she can shape him and mold him
    #436-I think Jesse cut his hair cuz Deanna whined ’til he did
    #439-Yes, Ryan was quite confrontational, but I think he is one of the few who understands what Deanna is all about
    #441-I agree, it was more of a mutual respect that the guys thought was missing with Jeremy more so than a jealousy thing Good perception
    #448-Twilly is great! If I wasn’t married, I’d ask him out for sure ;)
    #449-I just think with Graham it is just that he is a quiet, deep in thought kinda guy. I also thought that he saw Deanna wanting him to be someone he wasn’t and that didn’t sit well with him; can’t blame the guy
    Okay, now today is November 12th and I just read that Deanna broke up with Jesse and I found this thread while googling. I think Jesse will meet someone genuine who deserves him. I wish him the best. I truly wish Deanna the best also. She will come around after this whirlwind is over and return to earth hopefully and ground herself
    Lincee, You are a super writer. I loved loved loved reading your work Very quirky cute and entertaining THX!

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