Jul
08
Posted by Lincee

Rise of the snow monkey

Our last Bachelor loved his snow monkey and clearly DDAHnna does too. I’m detecting a theme.

Lots to discuss. Feel free to feel sorry for Jason and make fun of Germy below. While you’re at it, go ahead and virtual HIGH FIVE each other…no wait…virtual NUG (then blow it up) the fact that Jesse came out on top…pink shoe laces and all.

Have early morning meeting. Recap this afternoon.

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  1. AB Said,

    I knew it was all over for Jason when he got such a warm reception from DD’s dad…..oh ABC intern….you are so predictable with the ouzo shots for everyone.

    After last night, I definitely think that Germy wants to be the next Bachelor….

  2. kb Said,

    germy… ? the next bachelor…? i hope not! she rejected you pal, get over it and move on

  3. Sue Said,

    I’m just going to cut and paste from the previous page because I’m lazy…oh, and wanted to add that I thought Shayne and Matt were very cute even though I was never a big fan of Shayne.

    So here are my thoughts….

    1) Seriously, DDah, you are not the first person on earth to have your heart broken. MOVE ON. The way her family kept saying to the guys, “well she had her heart broken before..” WHO HASN’T?! And they told Jason that he’d better not break her heart, but it was okay that she broke his?

    2) #512 and #505 -Catherin Avril Morris (previous post) – I agree wtih you completely on both accounts. It’s incredibly rude of DDah’s father to instruct Jesse how to look. And let’s take a look at Jesse from the first episode to the ATFR. Remember the Natasha Beddingfield date? He didn’t have a suit to wear–she sent him one and told him to wear it. You think she told him to wear the suit her wore last night? One of the greatest things about Jesse is his individuality—and it’s almost as though she’s trying to change that….if that’s the case, he’ll resent her for doing so.

    3) Didn’t Jesse look like a deer caught in headlights when OHCH told him that ABC was sending them to Greece for their honeymoon? Almost as if he was thinking, “crap, what happens if we don’t get married? do we have to reimburse them?”

    4) the only other Bachelorette finale I remember watching was Trista and Ryan way back when. And I remember when Charlie and Ryan came to Trista on the Home Depot pedestal, SHE began the conversation. Why the hell did DDah not say a damn word to either one of them when they got there? She just let them fumble over their words, let Jason even get down on one knee before she said anything!

    5) I think it’s a good thing that she didn’t pick Jason. If you’re going to date someone who has children, you have to understand that you will always come second (which you should!). I don’t think DDah could handle being second to anybody right now. It was easy in ABC land when Jason didn’t have all the responsibilites of Ty; I think it would have been a rude awakening for DDah if they took that relationship to the real world.

    I dont know, I was also really cranky while watching, and I’ve never been a DDah fan, so maybe I’m just reading into it all too much.

    And I was so right when I said that Brad’s happy ending was DDah “forgiving” him. “I have more compassion for Brad Womack..” good. Now Brad can sleep at night knowing you put away his voo-doo doll.

  4. Tara Said,

    Let’s discuss the massive build-up of the “major announcement” at the “after the final rose show” only to be told they have set a date? I was hoping for a surprise pregnancy.

  5. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    She had two really great choices. My only regret was that she let Jason get down on a knee. I didn’t understand why she didn’t speak first like the Bachelors normally do. I can’t remember the other Bachelorette finales and what those girls did as far as speaking. Anybody with a better memory?
    But I will say I don’t think it was malicious on her part that it happened. I think she was happy to see him and not sure what to say and he went down FAST (or so the editing appeared).
    I was rooting for Jesse so I was happy with the outcome.
    There was still too much Brad talk last night but Brad should be happy that she now has respect for him and is grateful he let her go on to find Jesse.
    Not sure if I want Jason to be the Bachelor unless ABC steps up the quality of their women. He deserves a GREAT girl. But I thnk he deserves his own fairy tale!

  6. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    #3 Sue – Amen to point #1! I just wanted one of the guys to speak up and say “I hope she doesn’t break my heart like Brad broke hers.” AND “I’m glad Brad broke her heart or she wouldn’t have come looking for me!”. I hope they can ban the word Brad from their relationship.

  7. closetbachelorfan Said,

    Ditto on the fact that Germy seems to be lobbying for the next Bachelor spot. Am I wrong, or was he wearing the same thing on last nights show that he wore the night he was supposed to be sent home? I think they tried to make us think he came back tot he Bahamas to talk to her, but I think it was the same night.

    I can’t believe she chose the guy I’d have chosen! I’ve never, ever gotten it right before. I felt so bad for Jason though. He seems to be such an amazing guy and I personally think he’s incredibly HOT!!! She couldn’t have made a wrong choice with those 2 men.

    Anyone else think she was laying it on pretty thick at the ATR show? I can understand being excited but to me it seemed to be forced. I’m a little shocked that Jesse went from admitting that he didn’t know if he was ready to ask her to marry him, to setting a date. I hope he can manage to retrieve his manhood and take some leadership in that relationship. Or maybe I’m wrong and he’s exactly where she is at with all of this. May 9th is not that far away, but far enough that they may come to their senses before then.

    BTW…I bet the family was disappointed! Well, not sis-n-law but for sure Sis was let down.

  8. KoKo from Mo City Said,

    All I can say is…Jason was truly hurt by DDAH. Was I the only one who cried for him (and Ty)?

    I did love the comment…”I said I had body armor, but I don’t”…more boo-hoos all around.

  9. betsy Said,

    I predict that Matt and Shayne aren’t as happy as they seem. I call BS with that whole little happy scene last night. Something was off. Did anyone else notice?

  10. Susie in KC Said,

    I think it was incredibly insensitive of DDah and Jesse to practically have sex on the stage with Jason nearby. What a slap to his face……

    I heart Jason.

    I only got to watch the last hour, so I’m looking forward to the recap!

    Does anyone know the timeframe — when did the season tape? Was the ATR show live last night?

  11. closetbachelorfan Said,

    Sorry for another post so soon, but I have to say this. I will however put ot the disclaimer that I am not defending DeYahnna!

    It is absolutely healthy for kids to witness their parents putting their spouse ahead of even them. That doesn’t mean that the child should ever be made to feel that they are less important. When kids see that Mom & Dad, or step-Mom & dad, etc. make loving eachother a priority it actually gives the kids a better sense of security. If D had chosed Jason, and the relationship had worked, Ty would have benefitted from seeing his father treat his step-mom with honor. He’d have learned how to treat his future wife.

  12. Juno Said,

    I feel for Jason, but don’t understand why De is so to blame for “letting” him go down on one knee. Of course it may have been edited out, but why would he do that before she had assured him that it was what she wanted? I think what happened is just what she said – she was so emotional about seeing him and it happened so fast . . .

    With Jesse on the other hand, she didn’t say anything but she had such a silly grin on her face from the first moment she saw him come down the walk – she couldn’t possibly have meant no. I have loved Jesse from the first night – I woulda picked him just for having the guts to wear that crazy jacket (and she did, now I am remembering…first impression rose). And remember her sister-in-law said she was such a free spirit – she’s got some major sense of adventure. I know ABC plans the dates, but I have a hard time imagining, say, Shayne, swimming with the sharks. So I didn’t ever have to come ’round to seeing Jesse as a good pick – I had to come around to seeing De as a good choice for him, and finally did. So HOORAY for the ending. Any guy who can put a smile like that on your face, you should try very very hard to keep around for the long run.

  13. K in Allen Said,

    Jesse’s demeanor totally changed. I think he had an “Oh Crap” moment when he realized that she picked him. His wild and fun side has gone away. Not sure if it is because she has totally changed him or b/c he is so scared and doesn’t know how to get out of this situation… I heart Jason and was sad for him.

  14. Sherri Said,

    Sorry to all on Team Jesse, but last night pretty much made me want to throw up! Not only do I feel that there’s no way he’s ready to be married (I mean, c’mon, he pretty much had a nervous breakdown on the way to buy the ring), but a couple of weeks ago he was telling his dad that he wasn’t sure he was ready to get married! And what ever happened w/ this mysterious girlfriend on the side who he supposedly dumped before the final rose ceremony? Don’t get me wrong, he’s v. cool, and I’m sure he’s a blast to hang out with. BUT, I’ll be totally shocked if they make it to that May 9th date, or whatever.
    “Scorned Jason” looked hotter than ever, and I hope he finds someone completely fabulous!

  15. MO Said,

    OMG…………………Thank God its over!!!!!!!! I have to start this posting out with sending out my apologies to Brad. Once again DDHanna AND her family attempted to throw Brad under the bus. I heard Brad referenced somewhere in the vicinity of 7 or 8 times during both shows. Her sister said that “Brad crushed the family” and DD said that she talked to Jeremy because “she didn’t want to be like Brad and run the other way and not deal with it”. Brad, I am sorry, sorry, sorry and if there is ANY doubt in your mind rest assured…YOU DID THE RIGHT THING!!

    Ok, I need Jason to be the next Bachelor. He almost made me cry last night. I felt so bad for him. I sincerely felt like he was in love with DD. I was completely mortified that she let him get down on one knee when she knew that she didn’t want him.

    I had a feeling it was going to be Jesse, even after he did a “hit and click” with YaYa.

    Is it just me or did anyone else notice that she didn’t really say anything to the guys at the pedestal? Normally at the final rose ceremony, the Bachelor/Bachelorette spends some time talking about the person and why they did or did not pick them. Of course “America’s sweetheart” (as always) had to just stand and let the guys drool all over HER. Brad, Graham, Jeremy and Jason – congratulations!

  16. Ryan's mom Said,

    #7 – I noticed this, too. Jeremy was wearing the same thing as the night he got sent home plus did you notice that DD’s hair and makeup were the same (side ponytail)? This was ABC editing, but there’s no doubt it was the same night as the previous rose ceremony.

    And did anybody else think it looked so scripted when she was telling Jason goodbye???? It was not genuine at all.

  17. Emma Said,

    I LOVED last night’s episode. I felt like she was too young to be with Jason, and that Jesse is a perfect pick for her place in life. Like the sister-in-law said, if she chose Jason, she’d be fast forwarding her life five-years…

    And what was with the comments of “I don’t think that Jesse has experienced everything yet” in a relationship… Well, neither has D! (Unless she was married before and had a kid and we never found out)… Wouldn’t you WANT your sister to be with someone who hadn’t been there done that?

    I loved that Jesse was totally nervous – he was SO sincere. And he kept talking about how he wanted D in his life, how he wanted to be with her. It bugged me that Jason kept saying he thought she’d be perfect to complete his family.

    And ALSO she SHOULD get to be number one in her husbands life. That’s is what marriage is. Putting the other first. She should get to experience that before becoming a mother.

    I am rooting for Jason as the next Bachelor though

  18. IheartJesse Said,

    #9–I completely agree with you…something was not right with Shayne and Matt. It almost seemed like they were not that into eachother anymore.

    On to better topics though….So I obviously love Jesse and he would have been my pick for sure. I did feel a little bad for Jason though. Why in the world did she let him get down on one knee? Not good..not good at all. The one thing that bugged me about him last night was when he said he had never felt this way about someone before….ummmm hello? You were married before?! Even though that marriage didn’t work out, and maybe you were young when you got married…you just don’t say stuff like that.

    Jesse just cracks me up. Could not stop laughing when he “nugged” her grandparents and was teaching them to blow it up! I know a lot of people don’t care for him, or think he’s immature…but that guy is a great catch. Definitely the most “real” person there. I thought he was going to hurl in the palm tree though when he was on his way to pick out a ring…nerves? or second guessing the situation? not sure…but I do love him regardless.

  19. H Said,

    Did anyone else notice that D’s sister said that D had her heart “broke” several times?

  20. Stacey Said,

    #14 Sherri – My husband and I laughed out loud when Jesse was unraveling before buying the ring. When we went to buy our wedding rings, I told my husband to “just pick anything” while I waited outside and looked very much like Jesse, maybe worse. That was 21 years ago. I heart Jesse. I think it is normal to be nervous about big life changes.

  21. Shannon Said,

    I am just glad DD picked Jesse so now I can have Jason.

  22. betsy Said,

    yes # 19. Yes I did.

  23. LA Said,

    I voted it would be Jesse on our poll last week, but by the end of last night I was completely pulling for Jason! I wish she hadn’t let him get down on his knee… but I loved what he said at the ATFR about proposing twice: the first time didn’t work out but he got his son, the second time didn’t work out at all, so the third time will be the charm. :-) I agree with comments above that I don’t see Jesse as ready for marriage and, like so many other Bachie endings, I don’t see it lasting. Hope I’m wrong!
    Why is FORT suddenly requiring registration to view it? Anyone know?

  24. CK Said,

    Did we ever find out about the cancelled engagement party?

  25. Tim From The WC Said,

    Okay, I know this isn’t going to be popular, but I have to call out ol’ Jason. That dude is straight up CRAZY. First off, I have to question the circumstances of his divorce. What kind of woman leaves her husband and very young child without a reason? I’m sure Jason gave her that reason. Has anyone noticed clingy he is? I know some people are more physically affectionate than others, but come on! I thought he was going to break YaYa’s knuckles while holding her hand. Then, his whole segment on ATR was unbearable. Come on dude, she rejected you. Get over it and move on. Plus, he has the crazy eyes. He can’t be trusted.

    Go Team Jesse! Rad.

  26. Emma Said,

    #25 – I totally agree with how clingy he is… I felt he was too needy for D… I don’t question the circumstances of his divorce though – he wouldn’t have full custody of his son if his ex thought he wasn’t a good person.

  27. E Said,

    I have to say that I think it was crap that she let Jason get down on one knee. I haven’t ever watched any of the bachelorettes, so I don’t know how they did it on there, but when the guys got up there, she just stared at them without saying anything. It was like she was just sitting there waiting for the guys to say something. Poor guy, I feel bad for him that he was hurt, but I think he definitely dodged a bullet with her.

    PS. Was anyone else annoyed how her sister kept saying “She got her heart broke.” Sounds like her sister is as uneducated as her.

  28. hollyann Said,

    COULD NOT BELIEVE IT when Jason called out DD on her chemistry with Graham! (“After watching the season – seeing you with Graham… you had never looked at me like that.”) WOW. She totally deserved that.

    But then he tried to let her off the hook a little by saying she looked at Jesse the same way….

    And DD OPENS HER BIG MOUTH and talks about having to explain her chemistry with Graham to Jesse. Poor Jesse! Talk about airing your dirty laundry in public. I bet he loved having America know about the internal insecurities of their relationship. Classy DD.

  29. Randee Said,

    Just have to say……..awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! First George Michael, then Jesse, then Monkey, what a SEXY nite I had last nite ;) . Heading to work with the full intention of hitting the computer ASAget home!

  30. Megan Said,

    I love Jesse, but not with her. I feel terrible because she looked so happy, but seriously. No way is that going to work. He loves Colorado and I don’t see him living somewhere with no snow. Her dad was very clear that bi weekly visits were pretty much required, along with a hair cut, reduced facial hair and better clothes. I joke, but only partially. If the rumors aboug him having a GF were true I am sure that will all come out shortly, and as much as we love him…his past will now be the cover of US weekly so let’s hope he is prepared. I did find myself thinking when she chose him that they would be better because they will want the celebrity/talk show spots that I just didn’t see Jason wanting to participate in. I mean think of all the endorsements and sponsors Jesse can get now? Part of me wants them to beat the odds, and the other part of me thinks it is going to be more work than either are prepared for. I guess time will tell.

    Anyone starting the countdown to May? And if we think CH isn’t going to try to host this as a televised event….I have a feeling we are mistaken. May sweeps anyone?

    I felt terrible for Jason, but he seemed open, kind and thoughtful about the entire situation last night. He was honest about being so sure it was him, and that killed me. I just appreciated that he was gratious with DD when he really could have lit into her, and all of us would have understood, but that is not his nature. He really loved her because all he wanted was for her to be happy, and wished that she had looked at him the same way. Props for calling her out on the Grahm thing as well. She was so uncomfortable, and she deserved to be. It is hard to face hurtful decisions and take responsibility. I have a feeling Jason will not be on the market long, and a real life sleepless in Seattle will be starting soon. I can’t even imagine all the stalking that will takke place for that guy. He deserves someone special.

    Matt and Shayne have always, and will always crack me up! I heard they were not an item anymore so I am happy to see that they seem to be working on things, and in such a light hearted way. None of the seriousness or crying that seemed to be the entire DD season.

  31. Lauren Said,

    I really can’t watch Jason as the next bachelor. His over-exaggerated facial expressions will absolutely kill me. Feel bad for the guy, but then again, this is what they signed up for. Out of 25 guys only one wins.

  32. E Said,

    okay…. Seriously? I did not see ANY chemistry with Jesse in that whole entire show. I was SHOCKED. Literally SHOCKED that she picked him. Jason was a million times more the man that she wanted. She and Jesse have absolutely nothing in common. He did not fit in with her family at all. And if I had to watch his nose kiss her one more time, I think I would have barfed.

    I was reminded of a boy I “went out with” in middle school who I absolutely would have never ended up with (I was a classy, preppy girl, he was a skateboarding pot smoker) but it was something different and fun. I think DeaHanna never did that and she is doing it now, forever.

    I totally want to marry Jason. He was so sexy with that scruff on the overnight dates. Wow. And he was precious with her family- especially the grandparents. Love love love him!

    P.S. How will “D” (it got under my skin every single time J Dawg referred to her like that) pronounce her new last name. Csincsak? Or something? Anybody know how to say it? And she thought Bunn was bad…..

  33. Tiburon Said,

    Yeah, why pick the established, hot, family oriented guy?!?!

    She goes with the I-have-no-idea-what-I-am-going-to-be-when-I-grow-up-and-stop-being-a-knuckle-dragging-snowboarder-but-golly-I-guess-I-better-figure-it-out-someday-because-I-can’t-board-forever guy.

    What a freaking waste.

    I give it 2 weeks.

  34. emily Said,

    #25 – I thought Jason said that his ex left him “to be in a relationship with someone else”…did anyone else catch that? I had never heard him say this until last night.

  35. Tim From The WC Said,

    34- Exactly! What kind of woman would do that unless there was something seriously wrong with Jason? I’m telling you, there is something just not right about the dude.

  36. Juno Said,

    #34, you just made me realize who Jason has reminded me of, all along. Ross, on “Friends” – the kind of guy whose wife leaves him…for…well, you know. That would explain a lot! Why not pick the established family oriented guy? Why “fast forward your life five years”? I think sis-in-law had that right on. I’m cheering for another Trista and Ryan, and if Jess and De can get ABC to fork over for their big fat Greek wedding, I say go for it! I’ll watch.

  37. Broady Said,

    Jesse, who is SO likeable, seems a little shallow after all is said and done. I mean, how superficial were all of their conversations? I fail to see how this “big love” they claim to have could be built upon what ABC showed us. Maybe they edited out any convos of substance, but it seemed to me that she had a much more emotionally deep relationship w/ Jeremy. If only Jeremy could have snowboarded down the mountain with Deahhna clinging to his back… b/c seriously, that would have been game over right there for me.

    Regarding Matt and Monkey, I concur w/ whomever said that sh*t ain’t right. Did you notice the body language? Hers screamed “get off me, you un-famous dork whose usefulness I have wrung like a 10-year old dish rag.” The poor guy seems genuinely into her, though. Anyone else notice that?

  38. Moxie Said,

    That “final rose” ceremony was by far the most uncomfortable thing I have every witnessed. Why did she just stand there saying absolutely nothing. That makes no sense to me. She should have started out the conversation telling each one of them who she had picked. That was so painful to watch Jason get down on one knee and then have her say “no, I can’t”. What the heck was that? It would have been much more kind for her to start out by telling him that she had picked Jesse and saved him the embarrassment of getting down on one knee. That is just mean.

    Although this season has definitely been entertaining…I am not sad for DD’s 15 minutes of fame to be up. She is starting to annoy the crap out of me. I hate that HTC Brad broke her heart. A broken heart is always a sad state of affairs. But let me just say, if you haven’t had your heart broken at least once in your life, you aren’t living! It happens, so get over it and move along for crying out loud! Her family needs to get over it too! I would have been pissed if I had been Jesse or Jason and they were constantly comparing them to HTC Brad! Don’t make them pay for someone else’s mistakes (although I don’t think HTC Brad made a mistake at all!).

    Poor Jason! I feel terrible for him! But he is WAY better off in the long run. She apparently wasn’t interested in stability…she was looking for adventure. Nothing wrong with that! Just saying!

  39. Missy Said,

    #32–how could you not have seen chemistry with Jesse? The smile on her face when he was around was so apparent! And just because he is not someone you would go for, doesn’t mean he was wrong for DeAnna and that Jason was “more a man”. Wow.

    Personally, my heart was warmed about 150 degrees for DeAnna seeing how she was with Jesse at the ATFR. She seemed so relaxed and happy, that I have to agree with Graham that there was something about her that was lost in the editing. She really seems more like a free spirit who was trying very hard to be a “planner”, but it’s just not in her nature. And I really believed her when she said that Jesse was the only one who really “got her”. If she had really been that buttoned-up, regimented, “planner” of a person she seemed to be most of the season, then she would have picked Jeremy or Jason, no question. Let’s face it, they were a better “catch”, on paper anyway, than Jesse, but she never seemed as relaxed with them as she always did with Jesse.

    On a side note, I cannot believe how absolutely invested I was in this season, so much more so than I have been since the Bachelor Bob days…I truly wish them the best and I hope to see the real “big fat Greek wedding” in May…

  40. firestone4eva Said,

    I can’t believe no one has mentioned the following topics:

    1. Her dad was kind of a jerk to Jesse and basically told her to pick Jason. That will make for some awkward family dinners in the future.

    2. Speaking of awkward, I couldn’t even watch the scenes with both Jason and Jesse there. I was hiding behind a pillow the whole time!

    OK, so I thought I had more topics but I guess that’s it. I do agree that she will continue to try and change him and that is going to be a big problem. Let’s start placing bets about when they break up.

  41. Moxie Said,

    one more thing…how sad was it when Jason said “i’ve had a hole in my heart since my ex-wife left me.”?? Apparently, she left him for someone else (according to his comment to Mr. Pappas). And now DD has left him for someone else too! BUT, surely he knew what he was signing on for. In the end, she only picks one!

  42. Amy Said,

    Does anyone know what Matt said that was bleeped out on the show last night? It’s driving me crazy!!

  43. Mel Said,

    Did it annoy anyone else that twice they showed the note that Jesse was writing that said “Your the one” rather than “You’re the one”…I guess his education matches his maturity.

  44. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    #40 firestone4eva – I agree. Papa Pappas picked “perfect” Jason. I didn’t think he was going to give Jesse his blessing…. I think it would have been awkward for Jesse’s parents to watch that and then sit next to Mr. Pappas at the ATFR taping.

    Also, anybody see that Mr. Andrew Firestone got married on Saturday? I know Bob got married but does anyone else know of any of the the other “main” contestants have actually married at all?

    Lastly, didn’t Jason say last night that he has shared custody and not full custody?

  45. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    Oh, and the handwriting on the Jesse’s gift DEFINITELY didn’t match the paper in his hand prior to the proposal. Wonder if somebody else made the gift too.

  46. j Said,

    #35 – I cannot let that comment go undefended! are you saying that if Jason’s wife did leave him (and her son) for another man that it is Jason’s fault? give me a break! perhaps there is something “seriously wrong” with her instead……….

  47. Big Fan Said,

    First of all, all you Jesse bashers are plum nuts. Jason was a great guy, and would make a good Bach, but too darn clingy and just a little bit girly. Love him, but LOVE Jesse. ABC editing is amazing… all the answers to the questions that DD’s Dad was asking Jesse were cut out, never heard his answer to the future question (who knows, he’s probably rich and set for life and we never heard it), never heard his answer to the “Are you ready?” question… all this to make us think Jason was the pick. Go back and rewatch, it is true! And I loooooooved watching him NUG with the grandparents… so real and so him.

    Also, I think ABC told DD to have the guys do the talking at the pedastal. Everyone knows how it normally goes, but this time was different, and I think it was orchestrated that way since we knew both were proposing. They WANTED her to have to turn one of them down while they were on one knee! Makes for the “most dramatic ever” and all that. She did him a favor and had him get up when she probably wasn’t supposed to. Come on people, if you have watched this show for years, you know how ABC is and that it was staged that way. So give her a break… and I don’t even like her all that much.

    Oh, and my hubby watched it with me and said he felt the same way Jesse did going in to get a ring. SO excited and SO emotional and SO not wanting to mess it up that he wanted to puke in the grass. He said that it was the most real moment he has ever seen on this show!

    So, I am loving ole Jesse and thinking all you folks who are bashing him are nuts! I think they have a shot of making it more than anyone since Trista and Ryan!

  48. Sue Said,

    #44 MarriedWithEyes in regards to custody, Jason has been vague about that all season. Last night he said that he has Ty “most of the time” or something like that. Maybe family takes care of him as well? Who knows. but I don’t think has ever specified the details of custody…

  49. E Said,

    #32 i know seriously. his nose was poking her in the eye when they kissed. probably on purpose so she couldnt glare at him while kissing.

    her sister saying broke was driving me nuts. i kept yelling “broken dammit” at the tv. didnt D keep saying that too in her outtakes? those pappas girls- geniuses. ill tell you what was broke- her sisters face!

    when jason told her he was happy for her and you could see how much it was killing him to say that i was dying. that moment really was sweet and you can see he really must care for her. he is a good guy.

    last- im not a huge jessi fan but he seems completely transformed now. just a shade of the jessi we first met.

  50. Jenn Said,

    Jeremy was on our local news this morning. He said that he went to DD right after the rose ceremony when he was rejected. ABC just chose to show it last night. He also said he would be interested in being the next Bachelor if he was asked. He said it would depend on where he was professionally.

  51. needalife Said,

    #40 – It was killing me to watch the scenes with both guys there. I was yelling at ABC! That was just weird.

  52. Emily Said,

    I thought DD’s PDA at the ATR was extrememly forced and almost overwhelming at times for Jesse and if I had to hear her say “You look good baby” one more time I was going to throw up. She was grasping onto his arm for dear life…..to me, those aren’t the actions of someone who is genuinely happy, but of someone who WANTS people to believe she is genuinely happy. They are not getting married May 9th.

  53. EE Said,

    #32 my name is listed as E too so that might be confusing. im now EE. : ) it looked like i was commenting on my own prior comment. sorry

  54. Amy Said,

    Here you go Graham fans…

    http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/07/10-reasons-grah.html?xid=rss-popwatch-20080708-Five%20reasons%20to%20love%20‘The%20Bachelorette’%20star%20Graham

  55. EE Said,

    #43 and what was with the cheesecake comment he had written down????

    i agree- with what other posters have said. i never knew D was such a free spirit until her sister in law said that. like graham said- missing something in the edit of D. her decision of jessi makes much more sense then.

  56. Kathy Said,

    We counted 4 “I didn’t want you to feel as bad as Brad made me feel” in under a minute last night. GET THE F OVER IT, DD!!

    That sister of hers needs to eat a cheesburger. Holy mokes. Gray skinned Skeletor.

    Jeremy was SOOOOO posturing for the next bachelor, crouching down in the middle of the hotel courtyard, pausing to flex as he gets into “Thinker” position. Gag. That guy has zero personality – he and DD would have been perfect together.

    I LOVED how defensive she got when Jason brought up Graham at the ATFR. She still has it bad for that guy.

    Jesse is WAAAY to good and cool for her.

  57. Bobbi Said,

    *Im copying and pasting my comment since I left it on the last blog. I HEART JASON!

    Good ridance! Im so tired of “America’s Sweetheart”. This whole thing is staged and pathetic. Sure Jesse is a nice enough guy but all of this “I guess I didnt really know myself at the beginning which is why I ended up with Jesse”. Puh-lease! Sure we all go from wanting to be adored and secure and feeling comfortable to not knowing if there will be a future, with a guy who doesnt really want to committ but says he does for fear of your wrath and total uncertainty. We all want that! It’s such crap. There wasn’t chemistry last night – it seemed so forced. I agree with the comment that they practically MADE jesse ask for her dad’s acceptance conveniently after they took notice that he hadn’t asked yet. They tried to throw everything out there to make him seem like the dark horse. Even DD said it quite a few times about not expecting to end up with him and all these small low blows regarding his hair, the way he dressed. She’s changing everything about him. And May 2009? Nice… that will give them plenty of time to draw it out, ride the wave of being ‘famous’, milk ABC for more free stuff and THEN ‘tragically’ part ways. This wont last past the first 30 days….

    And Matt and Shayne? Was she still wearing his shirt from their blonde ambition romp that afternoon? “Oh i messed up my dress, Matty could you pwetty pwease lend me your shirty shirt? I can just shove this HUGE belt on it and call it a dress. It would be soo fabulous”. Ugh I cant stand that girl. Talk about forced as well.

    ABC better turn this around! They are losing a lot of us very very quickly! Fred or Jason would be a great next Bachelor. They haven’t tried the single dad approach! Have Ty live in the house with him, have the activities/dates be planned around the kid and see how the women interact with him on a daily basis. It could make it interesting! He handled himself very well last night and is too cute. And for those of you who think he’s too clingy!?! What!? What girl wouldn’t want a guy to be excited to c u. He shows his emotions – so what? Are you attracted to those guys who don’t show emotion at all or how about those who are “soooo into you it’s rad”. Puh-thet-ic.

  58. GinV Said,

    I’m an atty in Houston & my secretary sent me this link, it actually makes me like Jeremy more, and it’s nice to get the info from the horse’s mouth (i.e., they don’t get paid to be on the show):
    http://www.law.com/jsp/law/careercenter/lawArticleCareerCenter.jsp?id=1202422805522

  59. MC Said,

    #55 EE- I think the Cheesecake comment was a note to himself to say his final line “You Are The One” in a cheesecake way…which i’m guessing for him meant serious.

    Jenn-I also saw Germy on our local news this a.m. (and i was late to work because of it) and I think it’s so wierd how ABC edited to look like Germy was still in the Bahamas waiting for her to get back from her hometown date so he could talk to her when in reality, he went back to her room the same night as the rose ceremony. You don’t fool us ABC!!

    I’m personally glad it’s over. I was never a Jesse fan only because I don’t know what he is going to do when he’s finished snowboarding…I’m a girl with a plan and he definitely doesn’t have one…but thats his cup o’ tea. they look happy, heck, she looks giddy with him and i love how he is just amazed to be with her…that is oh-so-sweet.

    do you think they’ll make Jason the next bachelor?

  60. Sam Said,

    I knew it the whole time. They make Jason look so good, but who doesnt love the under dog? I think DeAnna is prego with Jasons baby… how freaking hot will that kid be. If i had to watch English man and monkey the whole season I would have jumped off a 50 story building. speaking of 50 story buildings did anyone notice that was Jesses analogy for getting married ” its like jumping off a 50 story building.” that was a sweet comment you sure know how to win a girls heart. Its okay, Jason is too good for DeAnna anyways, if he would move to Raleigh and live with Graham there is no doubt I would relocate my life.

  61. minivanme Said,

    1. Jesse looked like he was going to throw up throughout the entire show.

    2. Did anyone notice that De did not even look at the ring Jesse gave her?

    3. I thought the “surprise announcement” was SO lame.

  62. Missy Said,

    #55 & 59–I freeze-framed the “cheesecake” scene and the comment was something he was writing to say to her, but I guess never did (or they didn’t air it). It was something about promising her creamy cheesecake forever, or something like that, similar to Brad Pitt promising to make Jennifer Aniston banana milkshakes in their wedding vows. I thought it was cute…but then, I thought pretty much everything Jesse did all season was cute, so perhaps I am biased…

  63. Anywho Said,

    I agree – Jason deserved better and I wouldnt want him to be with ol’ whats-her-name. They look rediculous together (jess and DD). No future, no ‘plans’. Way to go DD! Way to disappoint your family and go with a guy who can’t dress well unless ABC dresses him. Love how you changed him from being a free spirit to some staunchy, suited, short-haired, “respectable” guy! Hope you’re happy. And please ABC- NO MORE MONKEY!!!!!!!!!!!!

  64. Karlies_mom Said,

    I like Jesse, I just don’t see him ready to settle down. What is going to happen when he isn’t snowboarding anymore and has to get a real job? Oh well, she made that choice and I hope they are happy.

    On another note, did anyone notice how defensive she got about saying that it had “nothing to do with Ty”? I don’t think that Jason was going to go there but she was sure quick to defend herself. I don’t think that she would have gone there if that wasn’t partially the reason. I am sure that is always in the back of his mind. I was so happy when he called her out on the Graham thing. It is so true, she is going to have a lot of explaining to do.

    I hope Jason is the Bachelor, I think it would be great if they did the show in Seattle “where people fall in love” so that he could be close to his son.

  65. Razzy Said,

    She chose a snowboarder over two professional guys? Give me a break. What’s she going to do with Jesse, live on a mountain and learn to snowboard, OPAH!

  66. AP Said,

    #57: I guess the idea of having Ty there would be interesting, but ultimately it would be tragic for him. No kid should be exposed to this chaos.

  67. Legallyblondemel Said,

    Do we already have a Bachelor/ette rule of thumb here about “First out of the limo, First to Leave”? If not, let’s agree now that it is never a good sign. My heart sank the minute I saw poor, hopeful Jason arrive first at the Home Depot Pedestal of Lurrve.

    Oh, how I HATED that DD let Jason get down on one knee . . . I think it ran completely opposite the “brutal honesty” regime she’s showed up until that point. Anyone else suspect that ABC made DD allow him to get to that point, for the sake of a suspense-filled ending?

    That being said, DD and Jesse sure do look happy together. Loved Jesse’s homage to Tom Cruise a la couch hopping. And if you’re PDA-level is actually making OHCH uncomfortable, that’s impressive chemistry.

    My “well played” moment goes to Jesse, who was smart enough to ask DD’s dad for her hand. Jason may have done so as well, but I think the unconventional Jesse scored extra points for this traditional move. Jesse wouldn’t be the man for me, but I really do like him & think he seemed genuine.

    I can’t quite believe I”m saying this, but I’ll be first on the record to say that I loved DD’s Home Depot Pedestal of Lurve dress. Absolutely fab, particularly in that ocean-front setting.

    PS – Speaking of fab, how happy was I to see HTC Matt last night? I’ll even forgive him for bringing faux-fiancee Shayne with him. Monkey was sporting some sparkly faux lashes, no?

    PPS – #4 Tara; the “surprise announcement” was indeed a letdown, but how hilarious is it that the odds of these guys actually marrying are so bad, that setting a date constitutes an event?

  68. Sue Said,

    #57 – Bobbi – not sure how people would feel with Ty being in the house/on the show; some people would say that he’s being exploited…that said, I think it would be very interesting…and if someone wins a special “one on one” date, then one of the other girls has to baby-sit Ty. Yeah! See how they handle putting Ty to bed…reading him a story, dealing with him getting up and wanting a glass of water every half hour, asking “when is daddy coming back?” crying croccidile (sp?) tears like all little kids do when they’re cranky but don’t want to go to bed. :) this is actually sounding like that baby borrowers show (that I’ve never seen). And Jason would get to watch a video of how the girl that baby-sits handles Ty! Probably not a healthy situation for Ty, but still interesting. :)

  69. Juno Said,

    #65 – Speaking as someone who lives on a mountain and skis as often as possible when there is snow (and practices law ….or plays tennis….the rest of the time) I can tell you there are LOTS worse ways to live. Like in a small house in Seattle with an “account executive” (what kind of account for what kind of company, I don’t recall that we ever learned – do we conclude that Jason is some mega successful business person because he owns a suit?) and someone else’s three year old child. My point being, Jason is a great catch for someone, but he wouldn’t be for me and I don’t think he would have been for De, either.

  70. Bobbi Said,

    AP – I know what u mean. I wouldn’t want to drag Ty into something like this. The problem being that Jason deserves a great girl but none of us great ones are willing to put our lives out there for the world to see because it would be boring television – we’re no train wreck honey! So I guess we’ll to leave it for the hot but obnoxious guys to be our bachelors and some dim-witted girls who choose no future over security, that blink alot for our Bachlorettes. Lucky us! Let the games begin!

  71. EE Said,

    i was reading some of the guys’ myspace pages and they all and noelle, holly, amanda and chelsea all post on each others and are trying to get together again. now that would be worth watching. like a bachelorette reject real world.

  72. Sue Said,

    #67 – Legallyblondemel – The only season I recall the first person out of the wlimo was the “winner” was the Jesse Palmer season when he picked Peaches and Cream barbie and then she got to WATCH him reject the second girl from the mansion. Not sure if that’s the only time at all….perhaps ABC realized that was really cruel so they never did it again?

  73. EEE Said,

    To the people who said ABC “made” her let Jason get on one knee. Whatever. If that is true, she still has free will. If ABC did try to make her do it, she should have had some class and say “ABSOLUTELY NOT”…I think it was an awful thing to do. We all know she loved it.

    On another note, did anyone notice that when her family didn’t like Jesse, she seemed crushed. I think she had already decided on Jesse.

  74. Stacy Said,

    #42 : I’m almost positive he said “Kazakhstan”.

  75. EE Said,

    richard was talking on twilleys page about them all meeting up july 17th-22nd. hopefully one of lincees faithful will spot them and give us details.

  76. Chickpea Said,

    So…. I could not watch last night. I figured no prob, wait for Lincee’s blog and enjoy that. I prefer NOT to know what happened til I read her stuff… and DDahna was ALL OVER THE NEWS TODAY!!! (Can I swear a little?! wtf?!?!) So much for a surprise. I am just shakin’ my head. Sheesh, what next?!

  77. Molly Said,

    #75 – what do you mean on twilleys page? what is his page?

  78. MB Said,

    I just can’t believe the unkind comments about the sister. Those commentators are the ugliest people in the world.

  79. tammy Said,

    I was hoping for Jason and after she didn’t pick him was really sad about it. But, when I saw her and Jessie together at the AFR, I was over it. They seemed real to me! I liked Jessie throughout the whole show. He just seems really genuine. But, I wanted it to be Jason. I thought that he had everything she wanted. But, it turns out we didn’t know the real Deanna! She seems to be as fun-loving as Jessie! And she did say, that she learned a lot about herself….that maybe she didn’t know what she really wanted in a guy after all! I know the odds are against them (just like any marriage), but I really hope they last!

  80. Sue Said,

    In regards to all these people’s myspace/facebook/friendster/linkedin etc pages…are we sure they’re legit? I’m no reality star and I keep all my stuff private. I felt the page for Jason that someone posted last night looked fake. but then again, I’d never air my life on TV, so maybe I’m just more private then these people are.

  81. firestone4eva Said,

    Marriedwitheyes- Yes I did see that Firestone got married and now I’m so heartbroken! But his wife is smokin hot and they seem really happy. I don’t know about any other former bachelors being married. What about the first one, Alex? That was a long time ago, I’d think he might be married by now.

    I’m loving all the comments about D’s sister! The one about her face being broken was priceless! And I said last night while watching it that she looked like a skeleton.

    Anywho- I must respectlfully disagree. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with not having a plan when you are in your twenties. They have both been supporting themselves just fine and I’m sure they’ll figure it out. She will probably try to brow beat him into becoming an attorney or some other lame job that requires a suit.

  82. Sue Said,

    (says the girl with a blog. :) )

  83. Me Said,

    Jeremy was on a Texas morning show this morning and stated that his “return” was actually done the night she sent him home NOT a week later. The producers, I guess, wanted to make him out to seem like a stalker, but that was not the case. I was not a Jeremy fan at all (in fact, couldnt stand him), but he didnt deserve that.

  84. Jeanne Said,

    #17 Emma, JUNO, MarriedwithEyes, we are the Jesse lovers, but there are so many haters out there. I really don’t get it. He’s a sweeties, solid as a rock, no BS kind of guy.
    I guess there’s lots of folks who don’t know Snowboarding is a professional sport, and a huge industry.
    I was actually pleased to see him so nervous, almost puking in the bushes before buying the ring. It showed me he took marriage very seriously, that he knew this was a big deal.
    I’m still holding the good thought for a happy ending, and a Big Fat Greek wedding to watch next May.
    Nugs all around!
    As for Jason, I am not worried, he’s gonna have the gals beating a path to his door after all of this exposure!

  85. LisaQOC Said,

    Sorry #67…HATED the dress and earrings!!! It would have been pretty if they could’ve decided blue or green..but that fade thing is hideous! I think if anybody’s nominating anybody for another show…it should be DeAnna for “What Not To Wear”! She is a beautiful girl but her clothes NEVER made the most of it.

  86. Brooklyn Said,

    Why would any of us Bach fans WANT Jason or Fred as Bachelor?? We all know this NEVER works!! Why torture the good guys? They will have no problem finding good women now in their hometowns.

  87. LisaQOC Said,

    That whole Jeremy stunt was SO lame! Boring…you could tell he didn’t really want to do it.

  88. firestone4eva Said,

    I loved the dress and the earrings. She looked very natural and island-ey.
    To all the Jesse haters- WHATEVER!! He is so great. If anything, he’s too good for her. I am a firm believer in opposites attract, you need someone who’s strenghts balance out your weaknesses. I think that’s what he does for her and I hope it works. But I’m still starting a pool about when they’ll break up. Any takers?

  89. Kat Said,

    Did anyone notice how boring her house was? Get a decorator in there and some landscape in the yard.

  90. houstonlawyer Said,

    - I think the numerous references to Brad were scripted by ABC

    - Jesse’s nervousness showed his sincerity

    - Jason seemed to NEED Deanna more than he WANTED her (I heard that first from Brett Michaels on Rock of Love, but it’s true)

    - There must be something pretty cool about Deanna, remember, she got Jeremy, Jason and Jesse to fall pretty hard for her

    - Jason’s reference to Graham was a planned blow intended to try to bring Jesse down. I agree with Tim – From the WC –that guy is passive/aggressive

    - Absolutely NO WAY do I want to see to Jeremy as next Bachelor – way too maudlin. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him smile

    - The chemistry b/w Deanna and Jesse was clear to me from the start, and probably obvious to the other guys as well. Remember Jeremy said she made it pretty clear who she was going to pick

  91. Char Char Said,

    # 9 – Betsy…….what were you watching? I thought Shayne and Matt were adorable. There was playful banter, a genuine love and like in their eyes, and the body language and touchy feely portion was the exact same as it was when the show ended. They truly looked happy and in love. They put all the rumors to rest last night for me. I was so excited to see them together. And we need to remember, he is older than her, and possibly out of his party stage, so her saying, he lets me go out w/my friends is normal. I have tons of married friends that we are alway out, while their husbands are either there too, or at home chilling. And no big shocker there. It’s just how mature relationships in the real world work. And I think they showed a real relationship last night. I heart them!!!

  92. IheartJesse Said,

    http://www.deannaandjesse.com/Home_Page.html

  93. Legallyblondemel Said,

    #72 Sue: Yes, you’re right – knew that ABC had tricked us once with the second out o’ limo getting the boot. We’ve consistently had so many “first out, first dumped” since then, however, that I wonder how ABC will keep things lively from now on.

    #85 LisaQOC: I hang my head in sartorial shame. I want to hate the FRC dress, like all of the sad insults to fashion that came before it, but I just can”t. I love the ombre, fade thing. I even heart the ginormous earrings. Don’t hate me.

    And I’m with you that the Jeremy thing smelled like a stunt. Funny that ABC tried to make it look like he stalked her back to the Bahamas, when he so clearly went to her the same night he was kicked off.

  94. Suzie Said,

    #35 – that’s just mean. There are plenty of women out there who totally dump on their men for no good reason. Anyone who leaves her own child is heartless IMO

    #43 – the “your” instead of “you’re” drove me nuts, too! That, coupled with the “rads” and “ridiculous” really made me think he needs to grow up!

    I was heartbroken for Jason. Poor guy. She shouldn’t have let him go down on one knee. That’s just mean.

    Look for ABC’s “Big Fat Greek Wedding” airing in May! Although I don’t see them making it that long.

    DeAnna’s “oh honeys” last night were driving me bonkers.

  95. Char Char Said,

    # 16 – Ryan’s mom – I totally agree. It seemed scripted, and also pure b.s. I felt so bad for Jason. Any girl that lets a guy get down on bended knee, just to reject him is crap. And that’s what Deyawna showed last night.
    Also, did anyone notice how after saying, I don’t want you, she immediately flings her body on him in a full bear hug? She did it again at the limo. I wish he would have mustered up some sort of mean bone and said, please get off of me. Let me know……..but he’s too much of a nice guy for that.

    And when he sat down in the limo…..all I could think was, He is truly gutted………….He looked like Mike Tyson had just knocked the wind out of him. Or perhaps, the howling Trainer that got kicked off the first night!

  96. KC in TX Said,

    #69 THANK YOU! Just because he has a slightly alternative lifestyle doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve, or in incapable, of true love. He seems to have a legit life in Breck that consist of more than just shredding and living off of pizza. I’ll say it agin, don’t judge a book by it’s cover. He is 26 and has been snowboarding for 15 years. He is probably ready for this transition in life, but that doesn’t mean he has to clean out his closet, cut his hair and confirm to suburban America.

    I think it’s refershing to see a little personality shine through. Who says they want to marry the wallflower when they grow up??

  97. KC in TX Said,

    #84, thank you too!

  98. Elizabeth Said,

    I just have to say that while he’s a nice guy, Jason runs like a little girl when he get’s excited. That odd little shuffle thing he does is just a big turn off to me. But I like manly men, so that’s just what floats my boat.

    And her father, he’s going to be the father-in-law from Hell. No man will ever be good enough for D. No man. At least May is far enough away that Jesse can still run for the hills!

  99. Liz Said,

    I thought Matt was bleeped for saying ARKANSAS.

  100. MO Said,

    Thanks #92 for the link……………I read

    DeAnna & Jesse will be doing a bit of traveling for the next few months but will be spending their summers in sunny Atlanta, GA and their winters on the beautiful slopes in Breckenridge, CO where DeAnna will be learning hot to snowboard…

    …can someone show them how to use spell check???? They are a match made in heaven. LMAO

  101. MO Said,

    or maybe grammar check

  102. KC in TX Said,

    *conform

    ok, nothing more from me!!!!!!!

  103. s2c Said,

    in the After The Final Rose, i LOVED the way that, when DeAnna was trying to explain to Jason, and she was bawling and ugly crying, Jason did not lift a finger to comfort her. He just looked at her. Awesome.

  104. Anywho Said,

    Pul-lease. Their site is horrible. Gotta love how they had to put, “THEY ARE VERY MUCH IN LOVE” in caps on their homepage. Nice… keep trying to convince America but you aren’t fooling any of us. We’ll see how much information or pics they acutally add to their site. I’ve got friends betting good money on how long they last (too bad we’re all betting the same way). My bf gives them until after their “first pitch at the Dodgers game” this week. Wow, how exciting. America. Doesn’t. Care. Is ABC paying for both their house payments in different states?

    And Matt and Shayne? Nothing about them is real. Nothing.

  105. Char Char Said,

    # 28 – Hollyann……..I think that was the only little dig he could give her. And I loved it too!! Way to call her on her graham cracker obsession!!!

  106. TxAggie Said,

    I love all of these comments…they’re making my morning go by quickly!

    1 – I loved both Jesse and Jason for different reasons, but I truly believe she made the best choice for her. I can relate to being young and wanting an adventurous relationship, not necessarily a “safe” one. But Jason is such a sweetie…he will have girls lining up to date him in Seattle!

    2 – I’m glad she realized what HTC Brad went through when he made his decision so everyone can get off his back for not forcing his affections and an ABC purchased ring on anyone.

    3 – As a Coloradan I can’t wait to hit the slopes and perhaps catch a glimpse of the new couple! That is assuming they make it to ski season together.

    4 – Can’t wait for Lincee’s brilliant recap and to see who the next bachelor will be! I don’t think that ABC will pick Jeremy (there’s usually a season between people who were on the show before and when they get their own season)…but if they do I think a lot of us would be surprised to find him more interesting to watch than he was this season. ABC chooses what side of people they want you to see and we definitely saw his serious side!

    5 – Bachelor Jesse Palmer’s season was the only one in the history of the show where the person in the first limo wasn’t the one sent home…it is the kiss of death.

    Keep the comments coming, love them!

  107. Tara Said,

    I highly doubt that website was actually created by Deanna and Jesse…it basically regurgitated everything that was said on the “after the final rose” show.

    Has anyone here, besides Deanna, ever curled their hair with a straightener?

  108. Jeanne Said,

    Don’t remember who asked how Jesse’s last name is pronounced — it’s sin sack.

  109. Anywho Said,

    #103 – s2c… I couldn’t agree more! I was sitting there thinking, “Please dont touch her. Please don’t say it’s ok. Please dont comfort her”. He was great. She didnt deserve it. And when she tried to make sure it wasn’t about Ty. Wow DD – way to blow your cover. She wouldn’t have even brought it up if it wasnt a factor. Not a fan of this season. At. All. Ok im going back to work now, at least for a bit.

  110. Colorado Girl Said,

    A couple thoughts from last night:

    1. Shayne and Matt = FAKE. I think it was totally staged; she does NOT seem that into him anymore. Maybe into the diamond on her finger, but not into Matty.

    2. Jason is SO weird, girly and clingy! I think he is a geniunely nice guy, but he would drive me absolutely crazy with his ridiculous jumping up and down, overdone facial expressions, etc. I’d feel smothered.

    3. If Jason were the next bachelor, I’d lose a lot of respect for him as a father. 6 weeks away from a 3 year old is enough. And no way should Ty be subjected to the madness that is the Bachelor.

    4. Who (under the age of 50) seriously calls their SO “honey”?! GAG!

  111. Stacy Said,

    Germy was totally working it for a spot on next season’s Bachelor…I hope the reject him b/c he’s creepy!

    #11 – Closetbachelorfan: You hit it just right…it is a HUGE benefit for children to see their parents make loving each other the priority. Kids need to see that, and it gives them a better sense of how things should be in their future marriage!

    I feel horrible for Jason…he’s such a great catch. I hope he finds his happliy ever after. He certainly deserves it, and so does Ty!

    I really like Jesse, but I don’t see he and DD together…it really doesn’t work for me. Oh well, I guess it just has to work for them!

    I totally missed the ATFR…BUMMER! My DVR didn’t record it like I thought it was…by the time I finished watching the real show, the ATFR was over. :(

    Hopeing for a recap of that too.

  112. Karen S Said,

    I agree with #53 Emily – D and Jesse’s affections were really forced (more her than him). Maybe he was on edge after watching the final episode where she was all over Jason – she was trying to reassure him?

    I thought it was really low-class for D’s dad to basically require him to keep his hair short in order to date/marry his daughter. Uhhh, he is an adult and doesn’t need your permission to do anything, control-freak.

    And that was really low of ABC to make both Jesse and Jason be at D’s house at the same time – good grief, that’s just not right. Why not make everyone uncomfortable – including the viewing audience.

    I heart Jason but I think he’s too good to be the next bachelor – I think he could find someone fairly easily on his own.

  113. Colorado Girl Said,

    # 106 TxAggie–where do you live in Colorado??

    Also, I forgot to mention that my boyfriend and I played a drinking game last night and everytime Brad was mentioned, we took a “shot” of beer/Mike’s Hard Lemonade. I was tipsy by the end. Seriously, Dee…GET THE HECK OVER IT!!!!!!!!! (And her family too!) And take some English classes–ALL of you–because the use of “broke” almost drove me as crazy as Jesse’s nugging.

  114. JustMe Said,

    Was anyone else as wierded out as I was by them all holding hands when sitting at D’s family’s house and walking out to the cars? I don’t know any man that would allow that to happen to them??? Especially sitting on the couch all together. That was just strange.

  115. bach addict Said,

    109. Anywho – AGREED!!! And, I’m happy for Jason actually… No disrespect to D, but I think he can find someone for HIMself, that’s much more complimentary of who he is as a person.

  116. TxAggie Said,

    #113 I live in Denver…what about you?

    That is an awesome game! I agree with you…poor Brad’s name was just thrown around carelessly and comparing the other guys to him was completely unnecessary. And “broke” was also the most annoying thing ever last night…making southerners look uneducated.

  117. tiggums Said,

    so many pop-psychologists on this site. you analyze every little thing. Jesse’s nervous because he is so in love VS Jesse is nervous because hes not ready for commitment. Jesse is immature VS Jesse is a free-spirit!

    blah blah blah. to say that the TV audience saw a tiny fraction of their relationship is an understatement. Yes, I understand, the odds of a Bachelor-wedding actually lasting are very slim, but its kind of ignorant to act like we really know how everything went down.

    I have to agree that it was a bit weird Deanna didnt say anything to Jason. However, if I’m Jason in that situation, I would probably try to talk to her first and not just bust out the on-the-knee proposal before even gauging her mood. I’m guessing she expected him to say something before he went down, and she told him to get up pretty quickly.

  118. fan in nyc Said,

    OMG! Several things I wanted to point out:

    1.) I watched both shows with a group of girls last night and one of them, Meri, was on the Bachelor (Lorenzo) years ago and told us EVERYTHING. It was fascinating to hear what happens “behind the scenes” but it also confirmed all of my feelings thus far that DeAnna is in this for HERSELF and to further her career in Hollywood.

    2.) Poor Brad’s name was mentioned SEVENTEEN times during both shows. We counted.

    3.) Jason is the true winner because he didn’t wind up with Deanna the Me-Monster! She’s just awful. Even when they were talking on the After the Rose she made everything about her feelings and her in general.

  119. Colorado Girl Said,

    #116–I live in Colorado Springs. Anyone else on here from Colorado? We should have a Bachelorette reunion! :)

  120. McButterpants Said,

    I’ve decided that the ABC intern makes that heartfelt gift for them to give to the Bachelor/Bachelorette. It’s been done the last few seasons and the handwritting was totally the same on both gifts and no guy writes like that! They should get better at these little details since TIVO is in every house.

    Come on now!

    I’m so over DEEAAAAAAAAAAAHNNAA and her Brad issues. She must still be stuck on him.

  121. bach addict Said,

    117. tiggums – Jason was 100% sure that DeAnna was going to choose him. Think about it – she said in the ATFR that she chose Jesse the morning of. Wow, that would SUCK to hear that being her fiance. BUT, being the “rejected” shows that she probably gave no sign that it wouldn’t be him. She may have not told him that “tomorrow would be a good day,” but she definitely reinforced with body language what cannot be said otherwise.

  122. KK Said,

    I hated that DeAnna stood there, with both men, and didn’t say a thing. Both got down on their knees after the awkward silence of her holding court. I think this was about her ego. She seemed to be waiting to see if they would reject her like (dare I say it?) Brad. She wanted both men on their knees begging for her. Moment of glory for her. Bleh.

    To do that to Jason was outrageous. She should have started talking to him the second he got up there and told him the truth, straight up. She should have warned him the night before. But no, this was her moment of gloating. Two men wanted her (well, Jason did. Jesse was pushed into it and was sick at the thought) and she chose that moment to enjoy the adoration.

    She’s a piece of work. I say 1 month tops for the relationship and certainly Jason was the man of the hour to me. He handled himself well. Spoke well. Had profound thoughts about DeAnna’s immaturity and lack of depth and not knowing herself well, not knowing what she wanted after all. He’s a great catch, IMO, but shouldn’t go looking for a woman who desires publicity and ego-stroking-dude! to sooth her broken-heart-if-we-must-hear-it-once-more-I-will-scream!

  123. swirlyturtle Said,

    After the first episode, I made a comment that Jesse is to DeAnna what Bob Guiney was to Trista. Boy, was I wrong! Even though Jesse is a great guy, I did not see that coming.

    On ATFR, Jesse and DeAnna reminded me of that Seinfeld episode: “You’re Schmoopy! No, YOU’RE Schmoopy!”

    But I guess if it’s Jesse it would be “YOUR Schmoopy” :-)

  124. McButterpants Said,

    Sorry if this has been posted already but check out Jesse

    http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?id=1581085&vid=207885

  125. KK Said,

    Oh, one more thought I just had. No wonder they didn’t blur out Jesse’s logos/shirts/merchandising like they blur out all other products shown in the show. It should have been the clue that he was the winner. Another bleh.

  126. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    110 – Colorado Girl – I am under 50 and I call my husband “Honey”. I hardly ever use his name unless I am speaking about him but not when I speak to him.

    I thought last night that this would be a show in which DD had the winner come first so she could make sure she got at least one proposal before she turned the runner up away.

    I totally hated that on Jesse Palmer’s season though so I’m glad they didn’t do that this time.

  127. Bobbi Said,

    #122 KK – AMEN! And Amen. :-}

  128. Lizzie Said,

    Tara 107: Has anyone here, besides Deanna, ever curled their hair with a straightener?

    haha. I remember thinking last night “why is she doing that?” :)

  129. BrendieRB Said,

    First off, thank you Sue #3 comments! You hit the nail on the head.

    Shame on DDAH…… I don’t like her now. First off, no man should get married until he is AT LEAST 30. You change so much from 26 to 30! Reality and life sets in. It is not all fun snowboarding, making snow angels in the snow… there are bills and kids and in-laws to deal with. Jesse hasn’t a clue. I have a kid and there is no way I am introducing any man to my 3 year old unless I am certain he is “potentially” the one. DDAH doesn’t understand the dynamics of this yet. Maybe someday DDAH, maybe someday…

    Another Amen to #8 Koko… I was all about the boohooing. My heart was breaking for Ty.

    You know, I’m glad she didn’t pick Jason, which means there really is a real live Sleepless in Seattle out there for me! I’ll be his Meg Ryan!!!!

  130. TxAggie Said,

    We should definitely do a CO watch party or a ski weekend in Breck/A Basin to spy on the “happy couple”! I love all the representation from CO on the show lately (Jesse, Noelle, Chelsea).

  131. KC in TX Said,

    Everytime I read that yall think Jesse is on to promote his line I crack up inside. Do you really think “The Bahelotette” is his target market? And, his marketing/PR angle would be to go on this, of all reality shows, to flash his brand on the screen a few times? He clearly has a contact at MTV, I’m pretty sure if that was his intention he would donate gear to the Real World kids or some other show targeted to 16-24 yr olds.

    I’m am not all about Jesse or Jason. They are just two random dudes and I think it’s funny that some people on here get so opinionated. What is right/wrong for De-Yawn shouldn’t be perfectly right/wrong for you. To each his own.

  132. Amy Said,

    Jesse and DD are a match made in heaven, think about it! They both dress poorly, they both love the media, they both have the vocabulary of a 12 year old…

    Does anyone know if Lincee is going to recap Big Brother? Was that discussed at some point? Not to bring another show into everything but I will miss you all now that this is over!

  133. Suzie Said,

    #107 Tara – totally with you on the straightener to curl her hair!! I was thinking the same thing. How does that even work? It’s only heated on the inside! Too funny.

    Also, did anyone think it was weird how they focused on Jesse’s watch in that shot of him on the balcony? Another product placement?

    Someone asked earlier the date of the AFTR taping – I think it was 7/1. MTA was filmed 6/22 I believe.

  134. Amy Said,

    FYI some straighteners are dual purpose with rounded edges that curl and plates that straighten. I have one and it actually curls pretty well. : )

  135. AP Said,

    #110 – I am 32 and I call my husband “honey” all the time!!! We actually spell it “hunny.” I don’t think it is a term only for over-50 at all!!!!

  136. Texas-born Said,

    So glad this season is OVER! I hope Jeremy’s & Jason’s hearts mend quickly as they realize the disaster they dodged.

  137. Ally Said,

    Still love, love, love Jeremy. As much as I would love to have him grace my TV for a few weeks, I hope he isn’t the next Bachelor. Even though he was edited to be what some call vanilla, control freak, uptight, etc… I choose to believe that he really is a genuinely good guy. After going through this experience, I would hope that he would realize how “unreal” this reality tv business is and would know that it’s not where one should look for their wife. Jeremy, go back to the real world and find a wonderful and real woman to fill the void in your life. In the meantime, enjoy the attention the show has brought you! And if you happen to become romantically involved with Noelle or Amanda… that would be wonderful for us fans that would love to see a fairy tale ending for you!

    As to Jason…. I think Jason is a salesman extraordinaire. He is very likeable and it did seem that he had a nice family. But I think he comes across as so likeable because he knows the right thing to say in any given situation. This speaks to his ability to read people well as we saw throughout the season… but I don’t think it’s as genuine as many think.

    Jesse… I’m really not a big Jesse fan, but I think he was probably one of the most genuine on the show. My husband, who complains through every show (but secretly loves it!), said it would be Jesse a few weeks ago. I guess he is more objective since he doesn’t seem to be as invested in the love story or the gorgeous bodies as I am!!

  138. swirlyturtle Said,

    POLL: For those of you who are married, did your husband ask your father for permission before he proposed to you?

    Tx Aggie and Colorado Girl – count me in on the CO watch party! I am in Littleton.

  139. MC Said,

    #107 and #133-curling with a straightener actually works! i was in a wedding and the stylist used it to curl our hair and it stayed better than any curlers/curling iron…you just twirl the straightener. try it!

  140. Bobbi Said,

    #136 – I couldn’t agree more! Move on and celebrate with the rest of us!

  141. bach addict Said,

    138 swirleyturtle – yes – he actually asked both parents. i was not a daddy’s or mommy’s girl in the least, but he asked out of respect & chivalry.

  142. JT Said,

    Since when does getting down on one knee = a proposal. I didn’t hear the words, “Will you marry me?” come out of Jason’s mouth…

  143. Elizabeth Said,

    My husband asked my dad. He was 23, back from one tour in Iraq and getting read for another. He knew what he was doing. He’s old school that way, which is one of the many (many, many, many) reasons I love him. And it’s also one of the reasons my dad loves him like son now.

  144. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    #138 – swirlyturtle – My husband didn’t ask permission. He asked for my dad’s blessing. Not sure that there is a huge distinction but I told him husband I wouldn’t marry anyone that didn’t go “man to man” with my dad. My husband was soooo nervous but my dad was cool and basically said “Do you love her?” to which my husband obviously replied “Yes!” and my dad said “Then take good care of her and you have my blessing.”. Then they just went on as if nothing had been said – ha!

  145. firestone4eva Said,

    #113- My friends and I did that too but with red wine! And I am paying for it today. Thank goodness for this blog because it’s not like I’m actually going to do any work with this hangover.

  146. MarriedWithEyes Said,

    *I told MY husband (not him husband)

  147. Missy Said,

    #107 & 128–I saw that and thought “must buy round edge straightener so I can try that myself”… :)

    And to those who described Jason as “girly”–that’s exactly what my boyfriend was saying. He said, “she doesn’t want some mamby-pamby guy who runs like a girl. She’s definitely picking Jesse”…and he only watched the show for 45 minutes!!

  148. Cilantro13 Said,

    Was I mistaken that Jason about kicked at D’s dog as he approached the door for the hometown visit? That is when Dee feel out of love. Don’t mess with her dog.

  149. susan Said,

    #107 – my stylist once curled my hair with a straightener & it looked great. :) Not to defend DD, by any means………… just saying.

  150. Bobbi Said,

    #148 – He was trying to pry open the door….not kick the dog. We all thought that too (well I didnt) but he wasn’t trying to hurt the dog. Thats something Jesse may pretend to do, followed by a “Dude, wasn’t that narly? Nug it and explode!!!!”

  151. bach addict Said,

    150 Bobbi – HI.LAR.I.OUS

  152. susan Said,

    #138
    POLL: For those of you who are married, did your husband ask your father for permission before he proposed to you?
    Will be getting married next month, but yes, he did ask my father before he proposed. :)

  153. PJ Said,

    I am happy she chose someone and i no longer have to watch her on television. i hope she is happy but talk about a downer of a monday when all she would do is talk about how Brad a man she knew for all of 3 minuted broke her heart. I hope her and Jesse do live happily ever after because i cant handle D the first bachelorette to do it twice.

  154. DenverGirl Said,

    I’m in Denver…texas transplant…

    i liked both jesse and jason, just not dd. it amazes me the difference in the quality of the men vs. the woman that are picked for the bachelor. case in point, shayne and matt. please…i didn’t see any chemisty with them last night. i would hate to see jason or chicago fred (i heart fred) chosen as the next bachelor and be subjected to the kind of women we’ve seen the past few shows.

    btw, my husband asked both of my parents for their blessing before proposing to me.

  155. KT Said,

    OHCH is so wonderfuly witty; I loved it when he was attempting to dispell rumors surrounding Matty and Shayne and Matty said “like I’ve got 4 heads” and OHCH says “no, it’s not that flattering”. I love this guy.

    I was completely shocked when Jason was the first one out of the limo and I was surprised she let him kneel, but we might all do the same thing in the same situation and I think that DD handled the season wonderfully. I really hope her and Jesse make it and then the only two successful Bachelor/ette couples will live in the CO mountains (at least art of the time for them).

    Lastly, my bf and I also played a little drinking game with the show last night, any time some one said anything about “opening up” we took a shot. Woo hoo! That made it not only more entertaining but more bearable when rose ceremony time came around and to watch Shayne’s “She’s just not that into you” looks towards Matty. He really was a great Bachelor, my favorite I think!

    Can’t wait for the recap!

  156. IheartJesse Said,

    Was it just me, or did OHCH seem kinda off last night? He just didn’t seem as witty and “on” like he normally is…

  157. KT Said,

    Oh and I am also in for a CO watching party, I am in Denver!

  158. mj Said,

    It was Trista, Ryan and Charlie all over again – rewind, repeat, rewind, repeat…

  159. Cilantro13 Said,

    #150 – I got that too after I thought about it for a second, but the first reaction (that he was kicking the dog), was my favorite moment of the show last night. That and Jason’s face after he got down on one knee and it dawned on him that he was being sent home (I know I shouldn’t laugh, but I can’t help it, even this morning). My wife commented that it looked like his head was about to explode. Personally, I couldn’t look the first time around. She made sure we rewound it one or twice — thanks honey.

    Kudos to the intern, whose idea it was to make the guys do the talking at the rose ceremony. All he had to do was tell D not to talk and the guys would provide the entertainment value. Which, I think, why D reacted so fast to Jason kneeling… like, this was a good idea until you just knelt down…

    And since the stream of consciousness has begun, if I were Jason I would have politely told D that I didn’t need her to walk me to the limo. Why prolong an unpleasant moment and turn it into an unpleasant minute? I would have just wanted to get away.

    And folks, seriously, 500+ comments on the last recap? Holy crap. Apparently I am not going to win the award (as I thought) for wasting the most work time on this site. Not even close.

  160. Bobbi Said,

    OHCH was way off last night. I think he really didn’t believe the whole thing either. He wasn’t relaxed, didn’t seem in his element in a way and didn’t tease DD (“Oh you are pissed” – best.line.ever). He definitely was lost and just wasn’t as witty. We love CH! As for DD letting him kneel… I think she should have been the one to speak and not let the guys pour out their hearts while she just sat and listened. Glad she’s off the screen! Hopefully it can stay that way and they don’t end up on ET or Insider every night….

  161. Lisa Said,

    #139 – I concur, I actually curl mine with a straightener. The curls stay better, it’s fabulous!

  162. hollyann Said,

    Five reasons to love ‘The Bachelorette’ star Graham
    by Entertainment Weekly
    http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/07/10-reasons-grah.html

  163. Sue Said,

    never thought i would get beauty tips from this blog. ;) I’m so buying a straightener with round edges next time. I’m due for a new one, anyway.

  164. Cat Said,

    Holy crap even though I knew ahead of time (courtesy of reading a spoiler on Fort) I was still surprised it actually happened. I haven’t read any of the other comments but at the final 3 on her fantasy date with Jason it just seemed like she had a sparkle in her eye with him but not with Jesse or Jeremy and then BOOM the sparkle was gone on the F2 episode. Does anyone actually believe Matt and Monkey are still together?

  165. JanIam2be Said,

    Does anyone else think Deeeahhhhna is going for some kind of t.v. soap career? She seems so totally fake and plays to the camera so well……I’m not a big fan…

  166. AP Said,

    To #138 – YES, absolutely. My husband asked permission from both my father and my mother (they are divorced). He wouldn’t have had it any other way – and neither would I!

  167. hollyann Said,

    For those of you who want it……Graham’s Modeling Website
    http://www.grahambunn.com/photo/index.php

    Courtesy of the Entertainment Weekly article: Five reasons to love ‘The Bachelorette’ star Graham
    http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/07/10-reasons-grah.html

  168. IMHO Said,

    - I’m in Littleton – isn’t Colorado perfect in the summer?
    -yes, my husband asked my Dad for my hand… also, my daughter is engaged and her fiance asked my husband… old school but wonderful
    -thought dd’s dress was iffy but she looked great in it.
    -I personally love all the psychoanalyzing on the blog; so fun to read!
    - the spelling and grammar mistakes drive me crazy as well….

  169. Adrienne Said,

    See I just felt bad for all of DD’s hair curling efforts once she was standing at the Home Depot mini proposal pedestal. The wind was not kind to her.

    I was very sad for Jason, but I think he is much better off. He showed what a classy guy he can be on the ATFR.

    OMG about the shark diving! That would scare the crap out of me, and I give them both major props for doing it.

    I cannot believe how many times Brad’s name was mentioned last night, and by the family too?! I mean really? Give the guy a break!

    I love Matt and Shayne together, but I think they were definitely off last night. It seemed to me like they had gotten into a huge fight earlier in the day and neither were quite over it, but they tried their best to put on their happy faces.

    My husband asked both my parents for their blessings.

    That’s all for now!

  170. Tina Said,

    My random thoughts about last night’s show:

    1. While I adore Jesse, I now think this whole thing is a sham. Their PDA at the ATFR show was so completely over the top that I just can’t buy it. How can he go from not being sure about wanting to settle down to saying a week later (on our TV’s, of course) that if she picks him, she better be ready to get married because that’s where he is??? Just such a dramatic change of course…
    2. I think Jason is a stand-up guy, but I think he needs to dial up the manhood a bit more. He came across as such a pansy last night (pardon the harshness). I wish these guys would act a bit more manly, even if they are crushed!
    3. I give DD and Jesse 6 weeks max. No way will they be getting married next May. No freakin’ way!
    4. As for “letting Jason get down on his knee” — I think there was a bunch of stuff edited out. He kept referring to “his proposal” which leads me to believe that he did actually propose to her, but all we saw was him kneeling, then cut to her saying, “No, get up”. After all…why would Jason call it a proposal (several times during the ATFR) if all he did was kneel??

  171. Adrienne Said,

    Oh and I totally second the idea of sending DeAnna to What Not to Wear! She just makes really bad wardrobe choices ALL THE TIME!

  172. Char Char Said,

    # 58 – Gin V – Yes, that does make him seem so much more human. And also proves that he and Deanna would not have made a good match. He says a few times, I kept trying to explain to her. Honestly, the girl is not the sharpest knife in the drawer!

    Thanks to you and your secretary for the link!

  173. tammy Said,

    #117 tiggums – very well put. Thank you! I completely agree!

  174. LA Said,

    #163 Sue… I agree with all the ladies here that curling with a straightener works great. It actually doesnt’ have to have rounded edges. I’m sure those edges would make it easier, but any straightener should work!

  175. stacy Said,

    i usually try to read all the comments before commenting so i don’t repeat anything but my lunch break is only so long :) i agree with whoever said matt and shayne were a little off. their faces were blank when watching the footage of their own “love story”. don’t know if they are together or just faking it, but i do know that matt was hotter than crap and i for one am glad he graced us with his presence. don’t know why he waited till after the season to change to the hotter than crap haircut but i appreciate his keeping it that way.

    i don’t know if all that nonsense with DD and jesse is real or not but i’m just glad we never have to hear about “america’s sweetheart” getting her heart broken by brad. who hasn’t had a broken heart and who the flip cares? i feel bad for brad having his name dragged through the mud this whole season and i’m pretty sure he wasn’t waiting with bated breath for her forgiveness or “compassion”.

    i thought it was awesome when jason called DD out on the way she looked at graham. but it would have been even better had he questioned her about her “sending the one guy home that i was falling in love with” when she sent hot graham home.

  176. Redone Said,

    -That look it Deanna’s eyes when she looked at Graham is called LUST. Can’t say that I blame her. Fine azz bad boyz will do that to a gal. I’m just sayin….

    -It cracks me up that they blurred out Matt’s comment. As if The Bachelor could have a negative influence on foreign relations. Sheesh. Too friggin funny.

    -Jason was way too sweet (actually, wimpy feels more appropriate) to keep such a dominant woman satisfied.

    -I think she truly has it bad for Jesse and I predict he’ll tire of her quickly. I don’t know if anyone has ever shared this little pearl with her, but men don’t really like change. Shocking, I know.

    Bring on next season’s bimbettes! They make for much better fodder for Lincee’s sardonic wit.

  177. jenstemp Said,

    Okay, haven’t read everything yet, so sorry if this is a repeat of anyone else!

    I’ve loved, loved, loved Jason all season and was pulling for him because I want him to be happy. But one thing I noticed after he wasn’t the one chosen, he was upset about being hurt again and having been so ready to fall in love. So, of course, hindsight analysis–it seemed like he was really looking for love and looking to be in a relationship to continue building his family. Nothing wrong with that; that’s the premise of the show.

    But with Jesse, he seemed like he was just in the show for the kicks and adventure (maybe to promote his own agenda?), but fell in love along the way. Like he wasn’t really looking for love, but found it as a side benefit to having this cool experience. So, again with the hindsight analysis, that makes me think his feelings might be more true and directed more specifically towards DeAnna versus just wanting to be in love.

    Minus for me with Jesse’s almost breaking down on the way to buy the ring, though. Makes me think he’s not really ready for that step.

  178. superwoman Said,

    what a train wreck. i’m sure reading the recap will make watching the show worth it but last night i just could. not. believe. it.

    all the stupid editing made it seem FOR SURE that she was going to pick Jason. and then wham… she goes with the guy who is literally freaking OUT like brad womack did at the home depot stand. i mean, the guy has to bend over and nearly put his head between his knees before he goes in to get the ring. show deanna a clip of that.

    and if she really does want to get married, why would she pick the guy who didn’t really want to get married. i don’t get this show.

    and she was buggin completely – i had to change the channel a few times. she was just way too cheesy. i kept trying to make myself turn off the tv but i just couldn’t. however i really wish they would’ve asked the questions did shayne move out of your apt – and gone down that route…

    seeing matt and monkey was pretty fun. i think shayne is darling and real. and matt has such a knock-out grin and was they were so fun to watch together.

    enough about brad womack. it’s embarrassing.

    i agree with whoever said that OHCH was off his game… i’m sure sure what was up with that. at one point i just laughed when he was like Jason, this is really hard for you – and Jason looked like he was about to cry and Chris is like well it’s going to get harder. Turn the knife. I know that’s what America wants but gosh – have some tact.

  179. Randee Said,

    Re: Monkey and Matt…mostly believeable CEPT, she sat facing AWAY from him the entire time and only looked at hime a couple times……body language speaks volumes.

  180. houstonlawyer Said,

    I think Jason was looking for a wife, and he would have fallen for any woman they put on the show.

  181. firestone4eva Said,

    jenstemp- Very good analysis! I completely agree and am now baffled that I didn’t pick up on Jason’s girlie-ness and desire to just be married. That’s how we all felt about Deyawna…she just wanted to be married and almost didn’t care to whom. I’m glad she wised up and chose the more fun, adventurous guy. I guarantee they will not be having 3 kids in the next 4 years.

  182. Jeanne Said,

    Agreed 179

  183. harvi4 Said,

    DD, REALLY????

  184. Deb Said,

    #89 – I thought it was only me, my sister was watching with me but thought her house looked fine. My word for it, “vanilla”. Good lord, some color, some art, some flowers in the yard, would it kill her??? And she is supposedly a realtor, any realtor knows, punch it up with some color.
    To me J and D look happy together, more power to them, but I don’t see any couple being able to succeed after meeting in such a bizarre way. Ryan and Trista are the exception, I personally cross my fingers for every couple to succeed, I’m a sucker, what can I say?

  185. Liz Said,

    Jesse decorated better than DeYawna.

  186. moe Said,

    I’m a first time commenter but have been addicted to this blog for a while now. And I thought last night’s episode was pure entertainment!!! Can’t wait to read Lincee’s recap!

    Did anyone else notice: when Deanna’s dad was telling Jesse he knew some huge guy who could hurt him if he hurt Deanna, Jesse’s response was, “Nice.” Oh my gosh, we died laughing, rewound it and watched it again. Too funny!

  187. Kylie Said,

    I’m 28 and I call my fiance ‘honey’ all the time.
    In fact, I call him honey and baby more than I actually use his real name.

    I’ve been following Lincee for a good 4-5 years now. You’ve sure come along way from the emails that I used to get every week in my inbox.

    You ROCK! :)

  188. KC in TX Said,

    #183 and #89

  189. Tara Said,

    Moe!!! Yes! That was HILARIOUS. “Nice.”

  190. BrendieRB Said,

    How does DDAH get her hair so shiney? Mine is not like that…even if I do use hair glaze… I want shiney hair…

  191. marla Said,

    what is this FORT site everyone has talked about? where can i find it?

  192. PJ in TX Said,

    69 get over yourself.

  193. harvi4 Said,

    #107 – I have actually never curled my hair with a straightner but decided I would try it tomorrow. LOL.

  194. Tiger Said,

    Hooray for Jesse. He is 26, why does he have to have his whole life planned…he is still a baby. Besides, who wouldn’t be a nervous wreck proposing in front of a camera crew? I hope they have a happy life together and figure out what their lives are going to be together. Besides, DD’s statement that she wanted 3 kids before she was 30 was completely absurd as any mom would know.

  195. Jeanne Said,

    #191 I agreed with #69 comments, but besides that, let’s not get all personal here, it’s supposed to just be a fun way to share. #190 it’s fansofrealitytv and it is like navigating a cornfield maze! It is fun, but get a comfy chair and a big ol’ drink of something good.

  196. MC Said,

    #190- fort is fansofrealitytv

  197. Anonymous Said,

    #186 Kylie-truth be told, I have to sometimes think about my SO’s name because I usually call him baby.

  198. Amy Said,

    #196 I must admit, I do too!

  199. Missy Said,

    #193–agreed. Why does his nervousness portend something more sinister than the fact that, hey, he was getting ready to propose to someone who was DATING SOMEONE ELSE! Sheesh! And I am right with DeAnna–before I met my bf, I had a list of what I wanted. I dated a string of guys over the course of a few months and found that the one who least matched my list was the one who understood me the best, communicated so much more maturely than the others and who I felt most at ease with. If I had stuck to my list of superficial things (certain kind of home, job, education, etc), I would have missed out on the very best man. Good for her for recognizing that in herself.

  200. Amy Said,

    Webman posted a message that the site is half down, for those who didn’t notice….

  201. MCS Said,

    I am happy for Jesse and Deanna and hope they stay together (always wish this for the final couple!!), I just wish we could have been taken along for the ride and seen more of their story rather than Jason and Deanna’s. Based on what we were shown, I was hoping for a Jason/Deanna ending. If given more of a chance I could have easily been a Jesse/Deanna fan!

    I truly hope Jason is not the next Bachelor. As much of a fan I was of him (and Ty) and cried when he was let down, most of the “rejected Bachelor/ettes” that become the star don’t get painted as rosy the second time around (Bob, Jen, and now Deanna).

  202. jenstemp Said,

    I have to say, I cry each time I watch the Monkey proposal. I just loved Shayne’s reaction to the proposal. Like she was so excited and in love that she couldn’t keep it in. When Matt says, “Monkey, I love you” and she bursts out with “I love you” back. My tears start flowing.

    Sure, she’s an actress, but is she really that good? Based on her screen credits, I’d have to say no!

  203. mothercita Said,

    I hear ya, #117, tiggums–sooo much pop psychology! The hilarious comments about bach/bachelorette wardrobe selections, grammar and vocab (“heartbroke”, “impordant”, and my own personal favorite,”dit’n” instead of didn’t), ABC intern mishaps, etc., etc., are all what keep me addicted to this blog. Not to mention Lincee’s incredible talent for capturing every detail. By the way, speaking of grammar police, I call myownself out on that previous super-run-on sentence!! Sarcasm RULES on ihategreenbeans.com!!

  204. Juno Said,

    #191 – I wasn’t trying to say anything bad about Jason – I was just pointing out that to assume he is a successful business person based on the fact that he owns a suit and tie and is described as an “account executive” is as wrongheaded as assuming that Jesse is an immature doper because he has chosen a “rad” sport (and the clothing, speech and other things that go along with that sport) in which to compete – and excel, from everything I’ve read.

    For some people, to be married to a guy who goes to work in a suit to his job at a stable company, with 2.5 kids and the white picket fence is the perfect life. I am not – repeat NOT – putting that down. I’m just saying that is not the life I would choose and it would be very difficult for me to be married to someone who had chosen that life for themselves. Don’t you all remember the movie, The Turning Point, about the two sisters – one who had followed her dream of being a professional ballerina and the other of whom got married and had what would be considered by most to be a more “normal” life? And how they each secretly envied and resented the other, until they finally figured out that each of them had each done exactly the right thing for herself? Like that.

  205. Texas-born Said,

    There are problems with Lincee’s posting of her recap. Superman (Webman) is on the way!

  206. IMHO Said,

    #191 – LOL :)

  207. the lizness Said,

    The curling with a straightener isn’t a bad idea what with all the ocean breeziness about to happen. Why bother trying to get perfect ringlets?

    And I call my husband “babe” so much that I said “Chris, blah blah blah” the other day and he thought he was in trouble because I used his real name lol!

    Oh well, it’s just tv. There will be another show, but I hope they pick a new bachelor. I also wish they would do a bachelor show with only plus size girls, since we are the REAL HOTTIES but that may never happen. :)

  208. get real Said,

    Juno, ummmmmm I don’t think that’s exactly what #191 was commenting on — but let’s play nice today as we wait for Lincee’s recap

  209. Jeanne Said,

    There’s a new article that Jason would consider being the next bachelor and would consider including Ty. So, apparently HIS broken heart is mending just fine
    http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/ousted-bachelorette-suitor-jason-mesnick-id-consider-bachelor-role-7389.php
    Feel so bad for Lincee and Webman, had issues with the host I use for some professional sites and was down for four days — tell that to the client — YIKES!

  210. Sher Said,

    #42 Amy – I was also dying to know what place Matt said that they bleeped out. At first I thought Afghanistan, but rewound and that didn’t really fit with his lips.

    #49 E – I was crying at these two comments!
    “i know seriously. his nose was poking her in the eye when they kissed. probably on purpose so she couldnt glare at him while kissing.”

    “her sister saying broke was driving me nuts. i kept yelling “broken dammit” at the tv. didnt D keep saying that too in her outtakes? those pappas girls- geniuses. ill tell you what was broke- her sisters face!”

    #185 Moe- I also rewound the “Nice” comment by Jesse. At first I didn’t know if he’d said ‘nice or ‘thanks!’…that was freakin HILARIOUS!

    #118 fan in nyc – any behind the scenes info you can share from your friend Meri?

    Was the straightener DDAH used the Chi?

    Whether Germy’s return was scripted or real, I thought when he was talking to her and his voice started breaking was pretty sad. And I also saw one tear slide down his face…..Visine or authentic?

  211. Biscuit Said,

    Looking back at the recap of Jason and Jesse, the editing seems to portray Jason in touch with his feminine side and Jesse in touch with D’s feminine side. Nothing wrong with a man being in touch with his feminine side – just not what D was looking for.

  212. LATXgirl Said,

    I LOVED the results! I was not surprised at all. They edited like crazy to make it look like Jason. But there were several clues to the contrary: 1) DeAnna said way back on the 4 wheeler date that she was “dying to kiss Jesse” (sort of like how she acted with Graham.) 2) On the Pappas family visit (day 1) DeAnna looked truly dissapointed when she asked her dad if Jesse had asked for her hand and he said no. 3) She also knew her family would like Jason better and she was worried about Jesse because she obviously liked him more.

  213. lindz Said,

    i agree with post #177…what a trainwreck! i have been a fan of the show since season 2 with aaron, but last night was enough to make me not want to watch anymore. that was three hours of my life that i will never get back!!!!

    what was she thinking?? he wears pink shoelaces for goodness sakes…and although the question of what happens after snowboarding was posed to jesse several times, he never did answer it?!? i mean, you can’t snowboard forever, dude. maybe he’ll become an instructor and teach their three punk kids how to snowboard too. i’m sorry…i don’t get it at all! how can you be in love with someone like brad, and then be in love with someone like jesse?!?

    secondly, how could you string jason along like that and keep him away from his son as long as possible, and then let him go. if you knew you weren’t in love with him, let him go and be at home with his child. bottom line…deanna is all about deanna…and with jason’s son ty, and his siblings and family she would have to compete for his attention. hhhhmmmm, so let me pick the guy that has never been in love before and that is an only child so that it will continue to be all about me and my big fat greek family!

    thirdly, the brad stuff has got to stop! the fact that his name comes up repeatedly in her relationships, makes me think she is still not over him. if you really want him to think you have moved on…ignore him and move on! i felt like all of her antics last night, the kissing and the terms of endearment and the multiple comments about brad made me feel like the goal of the hour was to see how many jabs she could get in at brad. doesn’t sound like she’s grown up or moved on to me. i still say brad “1″, deanna “0″.

    yesterday, was a monday all the way around, and i felt like going home and being with my husband and watching the fianle was going to be the best part of my day. wrong! it only made my blood pressure rise more. i was never a big fan of deanna before, but i am sure not one now! i live very close to her hometown and i must say, she cannot call herself a southern gal. not that my ranting and raving is making me look much better at the moment, but it would be a huge stretch for her to call herself a southern belle.

  214. Sher Said,

    I think it will ask you to login first, but this pic of DDAH makes me laugh: http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=393798295&albumID=523619&imageID=4553703

  215. Biscuit Said,

    I was interrupted (the gall :) ) during the nug portion of the family gathering and missed the blow it up segment with gramms. Just what is a “blow it up nug”?

  216. KC in TX Said,

    #203/Juno – I hear ya and totally agree. He is just on a more unique path and I think that is fine.

    And everyone wondering what Jesse could do once he is through snowboarding, think about the thousands of other professional athletes that retire each year. He could stay in the sport to teach and mentor. He could build his non-profit. He could work at one of the resorts. Or, he can go in a completely new direction…that’s the beauty of being 26 yrs old…life is still young!

    Cheers to De-Yawn and Jesse!

  217. Sher Said,

    #214…when they nug (bump knuckles) and then blow it up (undo the fist to a hand with fingers spread wide). Wow, that is hard to explain.

  218. Ashley Said,

    - I am 26 and call my husband honey.
    - Yes, you can curl your hair with a straightener. I was at a photo shoot a couple of months ago and the hair stylist used a straightener to curl my hair.
    -Yes, my husband asked my dad if he could marry me (even though I made him do it!)
    -And just because Jesse is 26 doesn’t mean he isn’t ready to setle down. I am the same age and married with children and am perfectly happy. It just depends on where you are in your life. I am not the biggest Deanna fan, but I thought on the ATR show, she did a great job, and was truly in love with Jesse. I give her props for not going with the “safe” choice, the guy that looks good on paper. Jesse is a truly genuine and great guy and I hope that they make it!
    -Lincee, can’t wait for the recap!! You are absolutely awesome and make me laugh every week!!

  219. Biscuit Said,

    Thanks, Sher! Good explanation!

  220. houstonlawyer Said,

    #203 Juno – I agree. Just because Jason has a desk job and dresses conservatively doesn’t mean he’s more mature, caring or would make a better husband or father. Also, from what I’ve read on here Jesse seems to do okay for himself moneywise. If he can make a living as a snowboarder, I say more power to him. And if he’s no longer able to make a living on the slopes, I don’t think it would be that hard for him to get a regular job. I mean, Graham is a bartender and I haven’t heard anyone dogging him about his job.

  221. Joy Said,

    Don’t have time to read everything now… but just have to say Shayne & Matt are totally faking it. I know someone who was asked out by Miss Lamas at a party recently. She is not engaged or dating Mr. English man anymore. That made me so mad!

  222. McButterpants Said,

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tv/369979_moment09.html

    Kind of gives your some persepective on the whole going down on one knee thing and why he was so mad. I’d be mad too!

  223. Sher Said,

    #221 wow so some of us were thinking ABC made DDAH look worse by forcing her to let Jason propose, but in actuality, they edited it to make her look better, since it sounds like she didn’t bring him up right away.

  224. Jeanne Said,

    Anyone know of scheduled TV appearances with DD and Jesse, like Regis & Kelly,The View, GMA, etc? I’m sure Ellen will get a visit, but she’s on re runs right now.
    Thanks to everyone who posted links — always fun! I really enjoyed the MTV one, I had never heard of the show. I’m a few decades beyond the MTV age!

  225. Sher Said,

    #223 – these are the only ones mentioned on their website:
    July 8, 2009
    Jesse and DeAnna will be on America’s Best Dance Crew TONIGHT.

    Jesse and DeAnna will be throwing out and catching the first pitch at the Dodger’s game this Thursday July 10!

    Article on the show last night: http://tv.yahoo.com/the-bachelorette/show/34988/news/urn:newsml:tv.entertainmentweekly.com:20080708:TV-20210899__ER:1

  226. Jeanne Said,

    Thanks Sher!

  227. Colorado Girl Said,

    #138: Boyfriend is flying to North Carolina (where my parents live) next month to have “the talk.” I love that some chilvary still lives today!

  228. Sher Said,

    http://primetime.tv.yahoo.com

  229. Sher Said,

    I’ve tried to post the same link about 7 times and it’s not working, so seeing if this posts without the link..

  230. Sher Said,

    K, since it is not letting me post the link, if you go to Yahoo and then click on TV on left side, then click on Primetime Recap at top right, there is a funny recap video of the show that includes the nugs scene.

  231. Jeanne Said,

    Sher,
    RE: your first link, and info to get to the second — OMG I laughed my a$$ off at both!
    Thanks!

  232. Sher Said,

    230 Jeanne – excellent! I thought they were pretty entertaining too. :)

  233. sara from tx Said,

    #11-I agree!

    #25-Women AND men leave their spouses all the time!!!–not because something is wrong with their spouse, but b/c the cheater/leaver is SELFISH. Why do you just assume something has to be wrong with Jason? If anything, he’s too nice, and certain types of girls love to take advantage of that.

    #43-Yes, I noticed that too! I think ABC showed it twice to make him look stupid.

    #93-I loved D’s FRC outfit too! She looked beautiful.

    #107-No, I haven’t curled my hair with a flat iron, but my stylist has. I guess D does her own hair?!! It’s looked so good all season-I kept wondering about that too!

    Wow. My eyes are about to pop out of my head……..just can’t check anymore posts……..and I think my kids are killing the dog in another room…………….

  234. sara from tx Said,

    I was fired up on that last post and just wanted to clarify that not all people who leave their spouse are selfish–I just think that lots of people are only thinking of themselves, not their children or significant other. :)

  235. Sue Said,

    Okay, I’m completely obsessed. I just read what Jason said in the article that #221 posted and IMMEDIATELY ran to my TV To watch thrOart wher he got down on his knee. ABC did some very tricky editing. You don’t see DDah actually say “no, I can’t;” her back is to the camera. but Jason’s face still seems to react to that. Its really hard to tell anything. But right after, they cut away to a different angle so there’s definitely some editing.

  236. KK Said,

    According to an interview with Jason on the radio today, Jason wasn’t on his knee a short time. He said ABC editted to make it much shorter with her interrupting him. That didn’t happen the way we saw it. He talked on and on a bit about his love for DeAnna and proposed….(like he said on the ATFR) when she said “no, I can’t do this”. That is humiliating and wrong. Completely solidifies my opinion of D. She is an egotistical woman who had little respect for the man.

  237. Sue Said,

    Sorry for the typos!

  238. sara from tx Said,

    #138-Yes!

    #191-LOL

    #203-Thanks for explaining. Yes, now I see your point! :)

    #221-I thought that was weird when they didn’t show D saying, “please don’t”, or whatever she said when Jason got down on his knee. I felt like it was edited in! Now why would she need to make him sit down there?

    I knew she was going to pick Jesse when she chose a romantic island getaway with him and would rather have swam with sharks than be alone with Jason! Booooooooooooo!

  239. Jeanne Said,

    OMG — the site is finally working again — I’ve been going through terrible withdrawls!!!

  240. LW Said,

    What is going on with this site? What happened to the recap??

    Have you all seen this website?? http://www.deannaandjesse.com/
    Guess they are trying to stay in the spotlight for awhile. For sure ABC will be footing the bill for the wedding. At least while they are in Breck they can hang with Trista, Ryan, and baby Max. Vail isn’t too far from there.

  241. Amy Said,

    I don’t know why I was surprised at her picking Jesse b/c via the ABC editing, I was SO SURE she was picking Jason. They fooled my again. I loved Jason, but I don’t think I want to see him as the next Bachelor – I want to see BRIAN, the tall blonde football coach :) However, that might be a bit ackward for him with his students….what a cutie, though!

  242. Amy Said,

    LW, 239 – thanks for sharing this – too funny! They do make a cute couple, though.

  243. Sher Said,

    WOW! Site’s back up. I was starting to panic! I think I actually got more work done in the last day than I did all month! I kept checking back and then it was some weird page that looked different and all I could think was, what if they lost all our posts! Then when it wasn’t coming back up, I started to think, how am I ever going to talk/blog with those people again! I don’t know how to get ahold of any of them. I was even thinking of posting a message on the FORT site…haaaaaaaaaaaaa! This blog is like CRACK for me!

  244. Michelle Said,

    http://www.deannaandjesse.com

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