Now that’s advice we can all take to the bank. Am I right people? Jo Ann BROUGHT it last night and I am so happy to know (according to Hare’s recap over on Entertainment Weekly’s website) that she is the reincarnate of Joan of Arc.
Of course, she’s not the REAL Joan of Arc. She’s probably that chick who became a martyr because some local scrubs trashed her brother’s scooter in the 80s cult classic “The Legend of Billie Jean.” FAIR IS FAIR!
I believe the word you are looking for is: anyway…
SIMPLE DISCLAIMER
The following information you are about to read is of personal opinion. You probably aren’t even reading this because the simple disclaimer has been a part of my recap since the days I emailed this puppy to just a few of my closer friends. HA! Fooled you. You’ve skipped this amusing mockery and will not know what in the world your friends are talking about when they say, “Did you like the new disclaimer Lincee did?” However, if you or someone on your Facebook page happens to personally know, sort of know, know the brother/cousin of, thought you saw in the grocery store buying leftover Christmas candy or have a Jazzercise instructor that looks exactly like one of the Bachelorettes on the show…none of this is personal and I’m sure they are all lovely people.
I have to admit that I was pretty stoked when I heard there was going to be a Presidential speech last night. Two hours of remembering and recapping is just grating on my nerves and I was excited to assume that Obama would force ABC to cut the episode down to a respectable hour. Little did I know that our President is a fan of the show and convinced the higher ups at ABC to shift the episode back an hour.
Therefore, the audience was treated to a nice little b-roll package that sums our girls up in just a few sentences in case you are borderline ADHD and can’t seem to keep up with the names, status and backgrounds of the four remaining women left. Here’s what our Bachelor had to say about his girlfriends:
Jillian leads us off
Jason: “Jill has been fun right from the beginning. She’s smart and has a passion for her career and a wicked sense of humor. The accent is a little annoying and she’s not as smoking hot as Naomi, but I think I’ll be able to get past that. She’s strong. And I need strong people in my life, because I have a tendency to lean over balconies and cry out in unbearable pain when faced with difficult decisions. It would be nice to have someone to divert those decisions to. And Jill is the best of the four. As they say in her native tongue, Mele Kalikimaka.”
OHCH: “Dude. You just told everyone Merry Christmas in Hawaiian.”
Jason: “Lay off Hare. I’m trying to be cultural here. Besides…how do you know what it means? Do you speak Canadian?”
OHCH: “Uhm…Bing Crosby and the Andrews Sisters straight up TELL you what it means in the song. Give me your cup. Let me smell what’s in there…”
Next up…Molly
Jason: “When I first met Mol, she asked me something about golf. Being the suave guy I am, I tip-toed my way around the question, fully convincing her and myself that I knew what I was talking about. Then she asked to see my swing. SNAP! She totally didn’t care that I lied though. She knows what she wants and she goes for it. She jumped at the chance to stay with me in the overnight luxury tent. She pushes and challenges me, which is nice because I have a hard time making decisions as I’ve pointed out before. My only concern is that I can’t get deep enough.”
OHCH: “This is a family show Jason. We don’t need to hear…”
Jason: “Get your head out of the gutter Hare. Man…you are really starting to get on my nerves. Do you have to be here? I mean that I need to meet her family and get to know her on a deeper level.”
OHCH: “Speaking of deeper level, what song would you sing to Molly? Let’s keep it in the English-speaking genre, shall we?”
Jason: “In the words of Debbie Gibson, I’d get lost in her eyes and feel my spirit rise. And soar like the wind. Is this love that I am in?” (wipes away a single tear with the tip of his tie that Ty picked out.)
OHCH: “Intern. I don’t care how much cash Jason slips you on the side. Keep the Jack Daniels away from his Diet Coke.”
Naomi is batting third.
Jason: “Hare, you know how gorgeous Nay is, right? And she is a flight attendant, so she must love to travel even though she doesn’t know the difference between a plane and a helicopter…but whatever. She is a free spirit and crazy.”
Note to reader: This is what we call foreshadowing.
Jason (continued): “She is wide open to the possibilities of what life can bring her, but I am concerned that she is not ready for my life. She wants adventure. What if I clip her wings? Those sexy, beautiful wings? Did I mention she’s hot?”
OHCH: “Let me guess. In the words of the Steve Miller Band, you are going to encourage her to fly like an eagle?”
Jason: “No.”
OHCH: “In the words of Peter Pan, she can fly, she can fly, she can fly?”
Jason: “I like where you are going with the Disney theme, but no. I was thinking of something more subtle.”
OHCH: “I’m afraid to ask.”
Jason: “In the words of the Bellamy Brothers, honey do you love as good as you look?”
OHCH: “You are one classy guy Jason. Nay is going to love it.”
And finally, Jason discusses Melissa the cheerleader.
Jason: “I won’t lie to you like I did to Mol, Hare. I pre-judged Mel. I just couldn’t understand how a girl that beautiful could be so sweet. And available? It’s not like she has a thing wrong with her. On a completely unrelated side note, I’m so pumped to meet her family. I know that it’s going to be so chill. Because my relationship with her is important, but a connection with the family? That’s huge! Anyway, every time I’m around Mel, I want to spend more and more time with her. And her family too! Because I can’t wait to meet them. I want to see where she comes from and how she became this awesome chick. What great genes her parents must have! I can’t wait to pump them for information.”
OHCH: “Easy there tiger. I think you’ve talked about her family enough.”
Jason: “Really? Because the producers told me to say it over and over and over again. I don’t want to get into trouble.”
OHCH: “I think you’re good. What concerns you about Melissa?”
Jason: “She might be too perfect.”
OHCH: “And what soundtrack of your life with Melissa would be?”
Jason: “Does Fort Worth Ever Cross Your Mind by George Strait.”
OHCH: “Seriously Jason?”
Jason: You’re from Texas Hare. What is it with the Dallas people not liking Fort Worth? It’s a great city! I would love to know the inner workings of that debate. Unless, of course, Mel wants to make out all night long. I’m so there.”
Hometown Date One
Jillian
Canada
Jason waves goodbye to Ty, again, as he sets off to find adventure in Canada. Jill is waiting for him by Lake Okaloca with an adorable pink scarf and matching pink gloves. She sees him from afar and runs to greet him with reckless abandon. Jason swoops her up and twirls her around once before placing her on the ground and making out with her.
A sign of affection…the swoop and twirl. I’m just saying.
Jill tells the story about how every summer, Christmas and Easter, she came out here with cousin Tori and spent time with the family. She convinces Jason that she even felt the infamous lake monster, Ogo Pogo, with her foot once while tubing.
Jason looks a little scared, but is comforted by the ABC psychotherapist who assures him that no one will make him get in the lake this trip. She reminds him that this is something that Jillian will probably want to do in the future, should he choose to pursue a relationship with him that lasts longer than three months. Jason takes her card and places it carefully in his wallet for safe keeping.
Jill takes Jason to what I thought was a distillery full of beer kegs. It turned out to be a winery nestled in a volcano. Just as cool in my book. Jill decides that this is the perfect opportunity to open up about how her Mom suffered from depression for 15 years and the strain it put on both her and her Dad. Fortunately, her Mom is better now and Jill feels lucky to have them in her life.
Jason totally gets why Jill is so strong now. She hides her emotions well. But does she like him? He just can’t tell and this bugs him bad.
Jill takes Jason to meet the family, who greeted him with signs, Maple Leaf jerseys and a rather large Canadian flag that was immediately draped over Jason a la Sly Stallone in Rocky I, II and III.
Jason asks Peggy (the Mom) a few questions in front of the group as he untangles himself from Glen’s (the sweet Daddy) bear hug of a grip.
Jason: So Peg…tell me about Jill’s hot dog theory? Do you believe it?
Peggy: Oh yah. Yous guys are all mustard.
Random boyfriend of Tori announces that dinner is ready and the group sits down. Jill is excited that the energy is so palpable. Cousin Tori asks how Jason is coping with being on the flip side of things. Jason says that he is looking for someone with a good heart.
Sweet Peggy takes this time to pull out a napkin and recite a poem she wrote for Jill. She mentioned diamonds and precious flowers and rain. And how they will be there for her agayne.
Jill stares at her mother, forcing her insides to hold back all tears that may be forming in ducts. She is unable to speak so Jason tells Peggy that the poem was great. Truly beautiful.
Peg takes Jason outside to ask a few questions. She unfurls a scroll that is about five feet long. Jason laughs politely. Peg winks at the intern for giving her such a great idea. They talk about conflict and what it means to be married. Jason answered all questions with ease.
Meanwhile, cousin Tori can’t believe that Jill is falling for a guy. She can see it all over her face. Peggy agrees and tells Jill that Jason has a lot of depth and character.
Back in what appears to be the family garage, Jason and Glen are kicking it old school. Then Glen chokes up at the thought of Jill leaving and hugs it out with Jason.
But the best part of the night was when Granny came for a visit. She thinks Jason is gorgeous and very beautiful. Lucky for Jill because she was about to be on the next train to northern Alberta where Granny purchased a nice Ukrainian man who makes good money working on an oil rig. She makes a note to herself to keep the Ukrainian in case things don’t work out with cousin Tori’s pushy boyfriend.
Granny pulls out a pair of boxer shorts with Canadian flags all over them and gingerly places them on Jason’s head. She kisses him square on the lips when he gets up to leave and swats him on the butt for good luck. Jason soon finds out later in his hotel that it was a “SAVE THE OGO POGO” bumper sticker. Oh Granny!
Hometown Date Two
Molly
Michigan
Mol waits for Jason in her Daddy’s golf cart as she picks non-existent lint from her preppiest argyle sweater. She gives the nod to the country club rent-a-cops and they wave permission for Jason’s black Tahoe to enter the premises. She runs across the fairway to embrace Jason with reckless abandon. Jason swoops her up and twirls her around once before placing her on the ground and making out with her.
A sign of affection…the swoop and twirl. I’m just saying.
Mol is so nervous for Jason to meet her parents because she had a bad experience one time with a boy of which her parents did not approve. It took one threat that she would lose her trust fund for her to get her act together. She’s really got her fingers crossed with this one!
After having a picnic on the green of the 18th hole, Mol takes Jason to meet the folks. We learn that Mol’s family spends every Sunday on the golf course. Dad wonders if this is a problem for Jason? Jason convinces the parents that he indeed subscribes to the Golf Channel and Mary Ann (Mom) gives an approving smile.
Jason has passed the test. Now he must be humiliated.
TO THE HAT BOX!
Mary Ann pulls out hats for everyone! They are fun and wacky I tell you! Dad gets a beer hat, Mary Ann wears a giant orange cowboy hat, Jason gets an Indian head dress (how did she know he liked to sit in that style?) and Mol has a crown. Because she is their little princess. Random one relative and random two relative join the fun about this time and Mary Ann forces them to wear a cow and joker hat.
Everyone seems to feel the awkwardness has worn off and are looking forward to large consumptions of liquid courage…except Mary Ann. She pulls Jason to her downstairs dungeon and makes him draw a picture of his favorite memory. But it must include Jill’s face.
How dorktastic can this get?
Jason attempts to draw a picture of Mol’s face. He adds hair so it doesn’t look like a boy. Nice. Then he gives her a mouthful of very straight teeth. And eyes that look nothing like the visions he gets when singing along with Debbie Gibson. Maybe a rainbow of red roses will help?
Meanwhile, Mol’s Dad is giving her a pep talk.
Dad: “I’m proud of you. I’m not surprised you are this far. You are a WINNER!”
Mol: “YES SENSEI!”
Dad: “What’s the one thing you will not do if this doesn’t go your way?”
Mol: “Come back home to face the disappointment?”
Dad: “NO! You are a WINNER! Even if he is too stupid to see it. You will not what in the limo?”
Mol: “Cry. I will not cry in the limo.”
Dad: “And why is that?”
Mol: “Because there’s no crying in baseball. Or golf. Or reality TV.”
Dad: “That’s my good girl. What did you shoot today?”
Mol: “63.”
Dad: “We need to work on that.”
Jason returns to the den to show Mol his masterpiece. She looks at it with distain and wonders why he thinks she looks like the Joker…who is indeed a man and a monster. This can’t be good. She decides to stick her tongue down his throat to remind him that he told all of Seattle that she was the best kisser on the fake radio show. Holla!
Hometown Date Three
Naomi
California
Nay is dressed up in her cutest cowgirl outfit. She is a bit concerned because last time Jason pulled her aside to see if she was really ready to settle down with a family. But today it doesn’t matter. She is going to show him she is serious about being a wife and mother. So much so…that she is going to pull ALL of her hair out of her face like a mature adult woman.
Whoa. There is hope for Naomi yet!
She sees Jason pull up in the black Tahoe. She runs to him with reckless abandon. He picks her up and puts her back down. No twirl.
She’s done. I’m just saying.
She decides to liquor Jason up with some mimosas out of her thermos that she keeps in her Jansport. She tells Jason that she is totally ready to be in his life. And Ty’s life. And that he is her future husband. Lincee thinks this is FREAKY but knows Jason needs one more make out session before he can tell this cow poke to get along little dogie.
To Nay’s defense, she does tell Jason that he is in for a big treat when it comes to her family. She tells him they are crazy. It’s in my notes.
But she did NOT tell him that her Mom was a straight up wack-a-do. Seriously.
Jo Ann starts off with a little cardio workout and exits the garage with about 14 hula hoops in her hands. One for everyone! Jo Ann encourages Jason to be one with the hula hoop. The entire clan stares at him, as they gyrate in perfect unison, as if he is some sort of freak because he is physically incapable of making the hoop twirl. Give him a girl to twirl? He’s golden! A plastic circle…not so much. Jason gives up when the little niece starts hula-ing nine hoops at once.
But that’s okay. Because Jo Ann has all sorts of fun afternoon projects for the entire family. You see, while driving just the other day, an innocent bird decided to fling into her windshield, killing itself for the greater good of this little show we like to call The Bachelor. Since leaving road kill on…the road…is blasphemous, Jo Ann uses the papers she keeps hidden in her glove box to daintily grasp the dead dove’s wing and shoves it in a Kentucky Fried Chicken sack that was on the floor board from the last time she had the munchies.
She stores said dove in the kitchen freezer for safe keeping. And the disturbing part about this story is that no one (except for an embarrassed Nay and genuinely freaked out Jason) seem to think that this is in any way odd.
To make matters even more uncomfortable, Jo Ann has named the dead dove Rosie and asks Jason to give the eulogy while they bury her in the backyard.
It was at this point that I fully expected Harrison to bust through the bushes with a trucker hat on sideways telling Jason he had been punk’d.
No such luck.
Jason gives the best eulogy for a dead dove I’ve ever heard. Jo Ann rambles on about the spirit of the dove coming back as a cat (take that world!) and places a bundle of posies beside the homemade rock tombstone.
Hector the Dad approaches Jason just as he is about to take a few Tylenol while the intern is holding a cold compress to his head. Hector wants to talk to Jason about what it means to be committed. He also lets Jason know that he raised Naomi in a religious household and questions if Jason and Naomi will continue down this path.
Much like Hector, Jesus is my home Boy too. I didn’t think it was weird at all Hector had concerns. He just assumed that Naomi had discussed her religious beliefs. Alas…she had not.
Just as Jason is about to dive head first into unchartered waters, Jo Ann arrives as the reincarnate of Lauren from three weeks ago and steals our Bachelor away for some alone time. Let’s listen in to their conversation:
Jo Ann: “What can you bring to this relationship that is unique dear one?”
Jason: “Well, I do this thing where I compare situations I’m in to song lyrics. Like right now, if I were talking to Hare, I would say, ‘In the words of Tracy Chapman…give me one reason to stay here.’ Does that count?”
Jo Ann: “Sure it does. And do you know how I know? Because I have premonitions. You are a passion seeker. Not to be confused with a dream catcher. And that is perfect because Naomi is an indigo girl.”
Jason: “Oh. Are you playing my game now? Love the Indigo Girls. Sing that Airplane song.”
Jo Ann: “Oh Jason. Your aura is divine. Do you see the pretty iridescent colors? What I mean is…we are from the same family. Reincarnated. We are both indigo kids. So is Naomi. She is a temple priestess. You were Mother Teresa and I was Joan of Arc. Can’t you feel the love?”
Jason: “Not really.”
Jo Ann: “Here. Take a hit off this and I’m sure you’ll change your mind in 10 minutes.”
Jason: “Pineapple.”
The ABC intern shakes some keys at Jo Ann to distract her as the ABC psychotherapist escorts Jason to the backyard where Nay and all the kids are playing freeze tag. She encourages Jason to join, but he is too spooked to care. It’s time to cut this ball and chain loose.
But not before a five minute game of tonsil hockey. And since this episode is two hours long, we were able to literally watch Jason swallow Naomi’s entire face numerous times before bidding her adieu and bowing in respect to the priestess.
Hometown Date Four
Melissa
Dallas
Just in case you were wondering, Jason is really, REALLY looking forward to meeting Mel and her family in Dallas. He’s also curious to see if this outdoor TV thing at her apartment is a figment of her imagination, but whatever.
Jason arrives at the random lake looking svelte in a black sweater and jeans. Mel is true to her Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader roots and wears a black tank top and tiny white shorts that I’m pretty sure were the actual DCC uniform bottoms. Did anyone else see a blue star on the left butt cheek?
Because she needs to butter him up, Mel gives Jason a gift bag that he must open, but is not really for him. It’s for TY silly! A tooth fairy box for his moneys.
Jason is totally digging this side of Mel. Maybe she’ll make him something from Creative Memories one day. Or better yet…they could make something together!
Jason begins making out with Mel sitting Indian style on a red blanket as she tries to talk. He keeps biting her lip, which sort of turns her on, but she must get to the task at hand.
Mel informs Jason that she will not be meeting her family because they are scared of the public-ness of the show. Jason is concerned, but not enough to stop trying to suck the Altoid from Mel’s mouth.
They arrive at her friends’ house, complete with little children to cuddle and hug on. Jason is so glad that Mel is comfortable around kids. The boys go play some pool and talk about why Mel is still single. One guy says it’s because she attracts bad guys.
Interesting take.
The girls giggle on the bed and talk about how all Mel can do is cry when she thinks about Jason!
Prozac helps.
Jason switches with Mel and hops up Indian style on the bed. He asks about Mel’s family. Oddly enough, neither of the girls had met Mel’s family.
Red flag.
Mel worries that not meeting her family is a deal breaker. To further confuse Jason with her flirtatious ways, Mel promises to take the entire crew to Southfork in exchange for some Tahoe and apartment time with Jason. They drink some wine and sit Indian style in her apartment while Jason asks her about her family again. She says that they are private people and there’s nothing more than that.
Rose Ceremony
Our Host Chris Harrison arrives at the fake house to talk with Jason before the rose ceremony.
Jason: “Hare. What are you doing here? I don’t have anything to tell you. I’m scared of Naomi’s Mom, okay? Anyone can see that she’s going home tonight. Do we have to do this? I need to fake tuck Ty into his fake bed.”
OHCH: “Humor me Jason. How do you feel?”
Jason: “Fake answers, right? Okay. I feel more confused than ever.”
Cue soap opera flashbacks from current episode.
OHCH: “Great. Now, if you can just stand on the X and look out across the water on your fake back porch and ponder. That’s it. Stand very still. Quit moving your head. This is a tricky shot. Okay and CUT! Great job Jason. Let’s get to the ceremony. I hear they are hanging a ginormous carpet in our honor!”
It’s no surprise that Jason did not give a rose to Naomi. I think she knew it was coming. Not only did she not wear eyelashes, but I’m assuming Jo Ann had a premonition about it. HELLO!
She does a pretty good job of holding it together in the rejection limo. She feels that she should just be alone now. And I think that’s great. She’s 16 years old for crying out loud! She has her whole life in front of her!
And guess what IHGB readers? Next week we finally get to see DDAHnna’s return.
“What are you doing here in New Zealand DDAHna?”
Even if they are tricking us because LORD HELP HER if DDAHnna really tells Jason that she made a mistake by not picking him, it’s definitely going to be the most dramatic episode EVER!
All about the shame, not the fame,
Lincee
Like, this is like the best Lincee! I do hope he like picks Mel though. She like actually like gushed about him so I like think that could like be a good thing. LIke, I’m just saying.
The lake in Jillian’s date was Lake Okanagan and although I really , really like her, she says “like” waaaay too much and it’s annoying. Although not as annoying as Moll’s bug eyes, Nay’s underbite or Mel’s stubby fingers. Those fingers just creep me out.
I’ve been waiting all day and you never disappoint! Just when I think we are going to get total boredom, Joan of Arc shows up…………is there any other word crazier than wack-a-do??
I think Jillian has the only normal family.
Melissa may have just entered the danger zone.
Molly is going home (and I predict, she will cry in the limo).
And, Melissa got a swoop and twirl. You’re just saying.
I wonder if DD is coming back in next week’s episode, or will it be when he goes back to New Zealand for the final rose ceremony? In the preview she says “you haven’t proposed yet”, so it makes me wonder…
I think hula-hoop mom grabbed the wrong brown paper bag from the freezer–either that was one large dove, or she got the 2 lb. package of ground beef by mistake! What a bizarre scene!
Great recap, Lincee, AS ALWAYS!
I’m not absolutely sure we DO see O-Pah next week. Anyone else notice that OHCH’s voiceover, just before the her arrival, was “And…..later in the season…..” He did not say, “And…..next week…..” I’m thinking she’s part of the 2 hour WTA show. Why else would OHCH make such a point of telling us, in this week’s blog, that this particular WTA show is TWO hours? And anyone who’s seen one of those shows knows two hours is a darn long time if there isn’t DRAMA.
When I was watching Naomi’s homedate, I had flashbacks of Jason’s homedate when Deanna was the bachelorette. Remember, thefamily leapfrog? So embarrasing.
Great recap! Loved the made-up dialog between Jason and Naomi’s wacky mom–PINEAPPLE! Melissa must have had some total loser boyfriends for her friends to go on and on about them. It seems odd that she would fall for a nice guy like Jason in 4 weeks when she’s obviously attracted to drama-loving bad boys. I can’t decide if I like her or not. I like her, but something’s telling me that Jason should run (quickly) the other way.
Lincee – first of all – LOVE the Friends reference “I think the work you’re looking for is…anyway…” Secondly, the Pineapple reference in the J/Jo Ann conversation made me laugh out loud, and I don’t do that very often! Well done.
Lincee, I wanted to ask if you saw the new show called Momma’s Boys on NBC? It’s 3 bachelors but the twist is the mothers live at the mansion with the bachelorettes! It’s HIGHLARIOUS. You would have so much material for recaps. haha.
Loved the line about the President being a Bachelor fan. I am sure he is! He ended the conference at 8, so he could rush back to the White House and catch it.
I still like Melissa, but I am curious why her parents were not there. Not even a note? A phone call? Seems shady, and I REALLY like Melissa.
Jillian is ANNOYING. I like her, but I can’t stand to like, hear her talk abouyt anything agayn.
Naomi was totally toast. I felt like this episode was a waste because she was totally going home before it even started.
Molly…I keep forgetting about her. I don’t care for her. She is gone next week!
Great recap, Lincee!
Melissa has been my pick from the beginning, even though the only clothes she wears is shorts (seriously, what is up with that?!?!), but after last night I am on Team Jillian. Mol needed to go home with Nay last night in my opinion. It’s like nails on a chalkboard everytime I see her….great recap as always Lincee! Now to wait an entire week for another one….
I like Jillian. Melissa is a close second, but she seems way too young and not serious enough for what he wants.
Great recap, as always!
Love your recaps! They are spot on!
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OK, I laughed my way through that recap, Lincee! Hilarious.
For the longest time I thought it would be Melissa and Molly in the final two, but I’m rethinking… Can’t wait to find out!
If it turns out to be Melissa and Molly in the final two – once again the bachelor wasn’t serious enough to pick someone he really wanted to be with forever. Neither of those two are remotely serious enough to get married and have the life that Melba wants.
BTW, thank you for being one blogger who didn’t make fun of Naomi’s dad for being a Christian.
This visit with Jo Ann is SO MUCH WORSE than the one Brad Womack had when he went to visit what’s-her-name. Sheena, I think.
Crazies.
Loved the recap!!! I am rooting for Jillian!! I think Molly is into her immediate family wayyyyy too much! Think that would cause tons of problems. I believe Melissa is hiding something that has to do with her family, she seems to young to step-up and be a wife and step-mom all at once plus she looks way too much like Deanna!!! I swear they could be sista’s! Jillian is a much better fit in my opinion and her family was very down to earth and easy to get along with from the get go. And Oh, how Ty would be spoiled!!!
Well recapped my friend, well recapped! OK, it might just be me, but I want to gag everytime Jason holds their face when he is kissing them, BARF. sorry had to get it out of my system.
I really like Jillian and hope it works out for her.
“Pineapple!” LOL! I’ll never see that word the same again. Or the fruit.
Jillian. He needs to pick Jillian. Her family is normal even though they talk funny. He looked comfortable with them. Besides, if he doesn’t pick her she might feed him to Ookie Pokie or whatever’s in that lake.
Mol. Ok, my 5 year old great niece forced me to watch that High School Musical thing this weekend. The blonde girl that’s named after the wrinkle dogs? That’s Mol. Mol = Sharpei. Same country club, same golf cart, same sweater, same Daddy. I kept waiting for Zac and Vanessa to pop out from behind a tree and start singing.
Nay. Oy. Hula hooping, dead dove burying, Shirley Maclaine-ing past lives. Someone get Nay some heat protection stuff for her bangs that I am sure she has flat ironed into oblivion. Do the Bye Bye limos of shame and rejection have electrical outlets??
Mel. Umm. So her parents were down with the public-ness of it all? Apparently they are not down with the meeting of anyone ever. I’m beginning to think Mel killed her whole family and buried them somewhere. It’s not normal that NO ONE on the planet has met them. Maybe one of her bad boy ex-bfs killed them. Something is amiss here J. Put on some Nikes and make tracks dude. Rah Rah gots herself some secrets up in the attic yo. Pineapple J. Pineapple.
Any other Jesus-lovers out there notice that Jillian looks like Amy Grant?? Jason suffered major loss of image in my mind when he admitted he totally has no faith in God… granted, Nay’s dad has a weird evangelistic style (who actually says Judeo-Christian??), we all know our daddys would cover the faith issue with a man we intend to marry. Okay, so although we assume that skanky bachelors that suck face with multiple women an hour are not exactly walking with the Lord, do we really need to hear Jason make fun of someone for loving Jesus?? Not smooth, J. But Jason is out-stupided by Nay when she tells her dad that your beliefs don’t matter, as long as you’re in love. Hey, Naomi… it’s me, Hannah… your beliefs are a HUGE part of who you are and I’m totally confused by this “love” you speak of that is apparently unrelated to what makes a person who he/she is. And we’re really surprised that these engagements never work?? I’m betting big money that Trista & Ryan had the faith/beliefs discussion before getting married, thus ABC’s sole success.
“In the words of Debbie Gibson, I’d get lost in her eyes and feel my spirit rise. And soar like the wind. Is this love that I am in?” (wipes away a single tear with the tip of his tie that Ty picked out.)
LOL!!!!!! Ty could be in with “Electric Youth”….hahaha remember the video??
A few things:
1) The only problem with pushing last night’s show back an hour is that my at&t u-verse guide said The Bachelor was only on from 9pm to 10pm. So, my DVR taped from 9pm to 10pm! Fortunately, I thought the President thing might go long so I randomly taped whatever show was listed after Bachelor, thereby getting the Bachelor. Whew!!
2) #7 sfomelissa…. agreed. I think DeDe’s arrival may not be next week for sure. Oh, and about that…
3) People, people, people… While she does say she made a mistake, DeAhnna will NOT say she should have chosen Jason. She’s simply there to tell Jason that she made a mistake in her judgment, and that he must be careful not to make the same mistake.
The ABC editors have done a masterful job of making us think otherwise. First, they made it look like she came back when a lot of girls were left. And still they make it look like she came back to claim Jason. I’m here to tell you…. Nope.
Peggy: Oh yah. Yous guys are all mustard.
hehehee my aunt talks like that!!! “yous guys” love it!!!
#22- totally agree. Nay, you want exhibit A that faith matters. . . maybe try YOUR PARENTS’ DIVORCE??
Then again, I’ve never had a gf’s family give me the 3rd degree on the issue. . .
#21- her friends’ not meeting her parents isn’t necessarily wierd. I’ve always lived a long way from the ‘rents since I left high school years ago and they don’t like to travel. So I can’t imagine that my friends have met them except for shaking hands at college and grad school graduation. Admittedly, every situation is different, but like, I’m just saying.
Lin– awesome as always.
My vote is that Mol is out next. He just wanted the best kisser in the group on the fantasy date before he tosses her out the door. Plus did anyone notice on OHCH’s blog there’s going to be an outake from her date in the WTA show? Seems strange if she were in the final two, unless its and intentional red herring.
Oh and PS: What the fresh hay-ull was Deyawna wearing? That pleated jacket thingamabob made her look like Two Ton Tessie-opolus. It was fug ya’ll.
Here is my theory on why D comes back. I DON’T think she is there to steal him back from the girls. Hopefully she knows that her ship has sailed. I think she is there to tell Jason that a 6 week romance on the Bachelor is not enough time to truly get to know someone and that he should NOT propose at the end of the show. Just my thought…what do y’all think?
Someone posted somewhere that Jillian looks like Debra Winger – I can see that!
Kudos to Hector for bringing up Jesus on network TV. That scene was a little awkward, but I think he did a good job of being kind and respectful and still making his point. How in tarnation did he and Joann ever end up together?
I thought Molly seemed intensely nervous the entire date. I almost got the impression that she wanted the whole thing to be over. My guess is that she’s the next one to go.
Amen to #17. What is even more interesting, and frustrating, is that people are judging Hector for professing faith in Jesus while sitting in a room full of slot machines. I guess it’s easy to overlook that Naomi’s parents are divorced, and the house had to have been Jo Ann’s (the dove was in the freezer there….).
Lincee that was down right funny. Swoop and twirl…lets see how many get swooped up next week. Nay was a fish out of water….she didn’t bring her “A” game. However, on the other side of the county, Mol did bring her “A” game as pulled it out just in time. Mel is giving me big red flags. Our boy Melba keeps thinking she is perfect, I think he is begining to see her flaws. Does any one know why she didn’t take him t see the jumbo screen by her apartment? I thought OHCH said that Mol had a suite set up so they could kiss and drink wine. Why couldn’t she change her clothes for dinner? Something sounds fishy, maybe Jillian’s monster has moved south. Speaking of Jillian, that was one classy home town date.
Does anyone think this cheerleader will come in second like the last one?
When did Jason say he had “no faith in God”?? I don’t remember that at all.
The thing to keep in mind here is that Jason is Jewish. Talking about faith is one thing, but the emphasis on the Jesus part would be truly uncomfortable coming from a different religious background. I don’t fault Hector for emphasizing the importance of faith to him and his family, but the preachy tone was off-putting.
Lincee, I’m beginning to think your recaps are NSFW-how can anyone take a person seriously when they’re rolling on the floor and crying with laughter because of your brilliant writing? By the way, loved the insertion of the song lyrics, particularly Debbie Gibson.
I didn’t think Hector was preachy – he’s just meeting a man who could potentially propose to his daughter – he’s asking questions that are important to him. One does wonder how he ever married Nay’s mother though – although remember at the rock wall where Naomi said her mom left them and abandoned them for a while? This all makes sense now.
And there is something very strange about Mel’s best friends never meeting her parents. Sheesh – the parents never visit her? And what’s up with them never going to her Cowboys games to watch her cheer? That’s weird too – why wouldn’t they go? It’s like she’s been disowned but why? Even the brother doesn’t want to get involved. RED FLAG for sure.
It only makes sense that Jillian should be the girl picked, but because I’ve watched way too many Bachelor seasons, I know that ABC is setting me up to believe one thing, when he’s really totally into someone else (I’m assuming Molly).
Great recap Lincee, as always! I thought you’d mention the shallowness of the grave during the burial of Rosie the dove. I mean, they barely even dug into the ground. A little rain and it will all wash away. That was totally disgusting, but it was great TV.
It is so obvious that Jason is into Melissa. When he met up with her in her hometown that was one of the longest hug/twirls in Bachelor history. I think they are just playing up the family thing for dramatic effect. If they seriously were dating, there would be plenty of time to really meet the family before she moves away and gets married. Plus it also shows she would not have a problem moving to Seattle if she is not that close with her family anyway.
I still like Jillian the best, but I cannot see them together as a couple. Can’t wait for the DDAH train wreck next week!
OK. Did anyone notice the editing at the end. Jason called Melissa last, but when she walked away from him to go back in line there was still a rose on the podium and Jillian was standing there without a rose. That means he really called Mel 2nd and Jillian 3rd. Weird. I guess ABC is trying to throw us off the Melissa trail! Interesting!
Of course it’s totally acceptable for the father to ask Jason questions about his faith, especially if he thought Naomi might end up engaged to him in like 2 weeks. Hector has the right to love Jesus as much as he wants and to be proud of that and whatever. But his tone WAS preachy. He was going on about how Jesus is the only way, the only god, etc. It’s okay to ask Jason what his beliefs are, but not, in my opinion, to go on about how Hector’s way is the right way. Did he know Jason was Jewish, or not? Anyway, I found Hector to sound preachy and self-righteous. Blech. Talk about an approach that would turn someone off to Jesus, not on.
But, bottom line, he did raise the important point that, duh, maybe Naomi should have had the religion talk with Jason before taking him home to her family, since she knows how much it matters to her dad. Of course, since it doesn’t seem to matter to her, I guess she didn’t worry about it…
Lincee–you always crack me up! Although, I think “J” is a sweet guy and deserves someone wonderful in his life, I literally ONLY watch this show to read your recaps. Thanks for keeping us laughing…
I totally agree with #38. Hector was CREEPY. He was not interested in finding out Jason’s views at all. He was using his brief national tv exposure to be preachy and pushy. I agree that it is a conversation between Naomi and Jason. He knew he was making Jason uncomfortable and didn’t care.
“Jason: “Oh. Are you playing my game now? Love the Indigo Girls. Sing that Airplane song.”
Lincee, amazingly witty & subtle reference to reincarnation! NICE ONE!
and,
Karen K, I cannot for the life of me figure out how you have a 5 yr old “great niece” but manage to totally sound like a hip 20-something. You must have discovered the Fountain of Youth! (Map? Please…?!)
All you guys are great! You are all so observant! I guess I am just too busy watching Jason to notice much else
Melissa is my favorite, by far, but I must agree that the whole parent/brother thing is strange. It’s also sad that her parents never went to a game to see her cheer/dance! I would hate to know that my child was out there living out her dreams and I wasn’t even there to watch!
Oh, and I totally see Amy Grant in Jillian!
Anyway, has anyone seen the “Bachelor Spoiler” on youtube?????
Shout out for Fort Worth! I like Melissa but her privacy about the fam seems odd – not even her best friends have met them? Maybe she told him more but they edited…?
oh poor Jay — not a lot of choice left. and don’t get me wrong — I LOVE this show, I LOVE Jason and I have been on the Mel train the whole show. But after last night, oh my. Jillian has had a lot of family issues and I only hope her mom is ok for the long run. How hard to have to choose between taking care of your mom or your new man. I think Jill is a great lady and lives in a beautiful place… we’ll just have to see. Molly – red flag Will Robinson, red flag — “I won’t be in a relationship with anyone my family doesn’t like”. Yikes — what she really means is who daddy doesn’t like. And how shallow to meet Jay at the country club in her country club sweater and bring him country club clothes — yeck. I don’t see any depth in ole Mol.
Na Na – buh bye. Sorry – sweet girl but too young for Jay. Her family are just free spirits and probably a lot of fun. Good for Dad to let Jay know how important God is to him.
Mel – I LOVE her but oh my gosh, red flags, RED flags, red FLAGS, RED FLAGS!!!!!! She doesn’t pick the rights guys, no one has ever met her family, her family never saw her at a Cowboys game and now doesn’t want to be on national TV. Remember early on she told Jay she was the black sheep of the family? Wonder what happened to have her entire family disown her? I truly hope she can reconnect with them. Guess we’ll just have to see how Jay feels about all this.
Lin – how come you didn’t mention the Mens room sign on the door at Na Na’s mom’s home?? and the slot machines??? Interesting stuff for a free spirit Indigo girl! I’m just sayin.
Hector sharing his beliefs and concerns were fine (if a bit preachy), but his testimony seemed oddly juxtaposed against the WALL OF SLOT MACHINES behind Jason. WTF, people?!?!?
Pineapple!!
Awesome recap, Lincee!
I laughed and laughed at the “Save the Ogo Pogo” bumper sticker that granny slapped on his bottom. Hilarious, Lincee Ray. You are a comedic genius!!
Lincee – the “RIP Rosie” post is priceless! I could not stop laughing! Great recap, as usual.
Karen K – I’m cracking up at Mel burying the fam in the backyard. I guess I have a sick sense of humor but I laughed out loud at that one. It is too bizarre that no one knows the ‘rents and her bro didn’t even show up! Why? She seems like such a sweet girl – the kind that would have proud parents. I guess I just can’t imagine my parents not showing up – even if I was doing a cockamamie thing like Bach.
As far as Mol, from one extreme (Mel) to the other. Mol’s parents are a little too involved. I can see not wanting to be with someone that totally rubs your parents the wrong way but not being with someone if your parents don’t “love” them – that’s a little extreme. Mol just gets on my nerves – she seems to be more about appearances than substance.
Kathy #45 – it was probably jo ann’s home.
Another great recap — made me laugh outloud! I think that Melissa is….a….wait for it…..LOSER! And what was up with that fake “I-must-scream-in-my-friends-doorway-and-hug-like-we-haven’t-seen-each-other-in- 20-years-when-it’s-only-been-since-the-early-afternoon” display of affection.
The house and the people were probably rentals. I’m from Dallas, and she has LOSER written all over her.
Of course, when I see her at the spa, I’ll nod politely and walk away from her backwards.
People, Hector and Jo Ann are divorced (hence the half-sister) and do not live together, obviously.
Re: Melissa – some people are just not that close to their parents and don’t involve them in every aspect of their lives. It happens. I respect her parents for not putting themselves out there on national TV. Let’s face it, the show ‘The Bachelor’ is a joke, people!! Look at it this way, if in fact Melissa is not that close with the ‘rents, and she’s on her own…then perhaps she’s more mature and ready for a grown-up relationship then y’all think (certainly more than Molly is!)! Originally I theorized that maybe Mel didn’t want them on TV, thinking maybe the fam was ‘from the wrong side of the tracks’.
I know this is borderline stalker-ish, but I did some sleuthing since she said her parents’ names were Bob and Mary, and there is a Robert Rycroft in Dallas who is a VP of Carlson restaurants (TGIFridays, etc)…so IF this is Mel’s dad, seems like they would just be the private, maybe even stuffy, type…and probably mortified that Mel made up the word ‘publicness’. Oh well, if it’s Melissa in the end, Jason’ll have plenty of time to meet and get to know the parents….I like what Mel said that her dad said that meeting [Mel's future husband] should be a moment to cherish where he can be himself. So….I don’t think Mel is hiding anything, just dealing with some uber conservative and private parents that need to maintain an ‘image’ for work and social functions in Dallas.
And, oh yeah….Molly still bugs! Zero depth to her ‘relationship’ with Jason. She made some serious pissed off and annoyed darting looks in her hometown date. She’s still Nellie Oleson in my book!
LORAC – LOL at Mel’s ‘rents being mortified at the word “publicness.” ARGH! I love Mel, I think she’s a cutie pie and I felt bad b/c ABC kept showing the “publicness” clip over and over. I wanted so badly to say – it’s b/c your parents didn’t want the ridiculous PUBLI – CITY!! AND, good work on the sleuthing!!
Well, crud. I just hunkered down (on my single night of the week, sans husband) with my bowl of ice cream to watch The Bachelor. IT WASN’T IN MY Q! Ack! Mr. President was, but Jason was not. Stink. Abt to read your recap without having watched it. Thankful to do so! THANKS!
Thanks Schmoopy!! Funny, speaking of Schmoopy, Jason’s feelings about Melissa on this last episode remind me of a Seinfeld episode. The one where he thinks his girlfriend (played by Ben Stiller’s wife) has the whole package, but no one else likes her and he can’t put his finger on why. Jason keeps struggling with that with Melissa (not that no one else likes her, but that he can’t figure out what’s wrong with her because she is ‘perfect’)!
PS~Erin – remember, you can watch the episode on abc.com! It’s worth it of course!
Good grief, girl. Thank goodness ABC, this episode sure gave you plenty to work with! Poor Naomi (kind of, I knew she wouldn’t last)… but I still feel bad that she had to suffer through such a humiliating homedate (worst ever, most likely)… I’m also a little disappointed that Jason didn’t use that opportunity to throw a little crazy right back at ‘em! What he should have said was, ” A burial for Rosie? No way. Let’s channel this glorious bird’s energy by throwing it on the grill with a little bacon wrapped around it! Rosie’s on the BBQ, folks!” Her mom would’ve have been totally into that I’m sure… Also a little skeptical of Melissa. If her “longtime friends” don’t know anything about her family, I’d call that more than a red flag. I might call it an SOS flare! Let’s hope there’s some behind-the-scenes family meet and greet that we don’t know about if he’s going to continue with her… cause usually if the family’s hiding, there’s a reason. And it’s better than “publicness”… really? How about “publicity”, sweetheart? Nice try though.
Mel’s DCC friend (Steffi) said that she HAD met the parents, when she and Mel were in college, but she didn’t know much about them. And then the audio switched to voiceover, so we have no idea what was discussed. It’s no big deal anyway, some families are NOT close … period. And some folks are healthier staying away from their f-ed up parents.
Molly did not run into Jason’s arms, she sort of stood there until he came to her. No swoops and twirls. And she didn’t get up to greet her sister when she came in the house. That’s weird. There’s no contact with their families on the hometowns until they see them on camera so I would think she would’ve been at least a little excited.
Mel was twirled like an ice skater. You cannot deny the chemistry, he is crazy for her. Jillian tells him of her mom’s illness and suicide attempts (talk about inappropriate…on national tv? Really, Jilly?) and he gives her a one arm hug without even losing his wineglass. Melissa expresses dismay about her brother not driving the one and a half hours to be a part of this nonsense (smart guy) and Jason practically squishes her in his rush to comfort her in a bear hug.
I have been bugged by a common tone of a majority of recaps and commentors this week. All this red flag business about Mel and her family. Honestly, in the first place I think we should raise the largest red flags on ALL of these people for trying to make one of the most serious, important decisions life via a reality game show on national tv. It’s quite ridiculous yet some people are lauded for being noble, honest and sincere.
It seems most people forget the editing process. We are not seeing who these people (ANY of them) really are, we are seeing what Fleiss wants us to see; he creates our view of them. So when I read that someone is perfect for another… or that this one is bad because… or what he needs is… or I hope he sees what REALLY goes on when he’s not around… well, you DON’T know. They spend much more time together than we see and if Jason (or whoever) wants to pick his wife this way, then he would be the best judge of who that is. We do not know who these people really are. I just think that the intimacy of tv causes a lot of women to believe it’s an actual fairy tale/ love story and forget it’s a tv show with intruding cameras, multiple takes and a storyline to follow.
But back to the fun! I think the red flags on Melissa belong to TPTB. There’s something weird going on there I think they are screwing with the timeline and that’s why Jason met Mel by that ugly retention pond and then had alone time in her hotel. It was filmed at a different time. Maybe they had the family thing, filmed it and all was fine, then they decided to create this no-family scenario for some drama and to have an obstacle for the lovebirds to overcome. So they went back and re-shot the sad little reunion and the dinner with the friends who didn’t have a lot to say about her family because they were actually asked to cooperate and they weren’t good actors, so just didn’t say anything … ??? I’m not sure what the game is yet, but something’s fishy.
LORAC – Yes, my Schmoopy is an homage to Seinfeld. If only we could have had SF recaps! I remember the episode and you are right! Jason was grilling the guys at the pool table about Mel. And, btw they basically said that she used to date himbos! I think her feelings might be hurt when she finds out that Jason is a himbo too! All that slobbering on everyone – it’s starting to gross me out!
First time to post.
Go, Hector! I agree with the poster that lost respect for Jason during that whole thing. He was rolling his eyes, and being sarcastic afterwards on the voiceover saying, “I learned that Hector really loves Jesus!” Like making fun. I didn’t appreciate that at all. And now I could care less who he ends up with. I liked him, too. It just really let me down, Naomi should have discussed some of that with him. I know she is not in the final 2, but still. That is a major thing! so again I say, “You GO, Hector!”
Did anybody else notice that after Jillian went through the whole story about her family ordeal, they made it look like Jason went in for slobbering all over her, Right after? And she kind of backed up and said “thanks, Babe, for listening” or something like that. She almost looked like, Can we be serious for a second? I just told you my mom tried to end her life! Did anyone else get just a LITTLE of that? Or am I imagining that? I mean, she was smiling, but she backed off a little. As if to say, thanks, but now’s not the time.
Am I WAY off base? lol It’s bothering me and I wanted to know if anyone else in the world thought what I did.
Jillian’s family was awesome. Great date.
I literally laughed out loud at the poster that thought Melissa must have killed the whole family LOL That’s a good one. It’s one thing that they are private and don’t want to be on camera. That’s fine, but then when no one could tell anything about them, and then they don’t ever go to her games, etc. That’s what made it weird. Just my 2 cents.
Another brilliant recap!
Some thoughts on Hector – being a Christian myself, I completely understand where Big H was coming from. If I knew my daughter or son had a strong faith, and that it was important to not only her/him, but also at least one side of the family, I’d want to know that their potential future mate had the same beliefs. It’s that whole “being unequally yoked” thing. However – I think he went about it in the wrong way. Even I was cringing away from his rapid-fire profession of his own faith (not that he professed, but that he just went on and on and on about it), and questioning of Jason. Maybe this whole scene was another victim of editing again, but Jason had plenty of opportunity to say, “You know, I don’t believe in Jesus, but that’s because I’m Jewish.” It would have explained a lot.
What didn’t surprise me at all was Naomi’s response to her father’s questions of her. It was very fitting with how immature she is. I think her father thought she was a lot more mature in her faith and for her to say that common beliefs in religion aren’t important is very naive…especially when it comes to raising your kids. It just proved that she’s very young and has a lot of time and room to grow up and explore her life more.
I, too, thought the whole Melissa/Parents fiasco was strange. I got that they may be very private, and kind of respected that (better than blatantly going out of their way to embarrass their daughter on national TV – hellO Nay and Mol’s parents!!), but I did think it was very strange that her friends didn’t really know her parents. These are her BEST friends! Even if they had never met them, what girl doesn’t talk about her family and/or mother enough that her girlfriends don’t know quite a bit about them? It just seemed weird – and also because I thought (and I may not be remembering correctly here) that when Jay asked Mel about what it would be like if she took him home, she responded that it would be a big party, and it would be tons of fun, and barbecue, and blah, blah, blah fabulous. Am I wrong about that? Was she just saying that to him so he wouldn’t be thrown by whatever is really going on with her family?
#41, Karen K can be a hip 20 something and still have a five year old niece. My baby sister and oldest niece are 4 months apart in age. Its kinda weird sometimes but love both of them. They are train wrecks themselves. Keep telling the little sister she should go on the Bach, then we would see some Drama. Makes DDahna look tame.
Anyone else convinced those people are obviously not Mel’s “closest” friends? I think they were the most TV/Jason/Bachelor friendly because they were married and therefore could create the atmosphere of a family, since we couldn’t meet her family. Why do I suspect Mel’s actual closest friends are young, single, wild and crazy cheerleaders? Nothing wrong with that, people. I’m just saying that she obviously (by “she” I mean ABC) had to round up the most domestic, normal-seeming friends who wouldn’t get drunk and try to do shots out of Jason’s navel at the bar. I’m just sayin.
Also, here is my take on that edited rose ceremony: The producers obviously changed their minds between shooting that ceremony and editing it. I’m sure at every rose ceremony they have the order of roses planned out for optimum drama, especially that final one. So at first they had Jillian get the last rose, but then they went back and edited Jillian’s date to only show all good and Mel’s date to look less good. It is quite interesting they flipped it to make it look like he couldn’t choose between Melissa and Naomi. That, coupled with a less-than-perfect hometown date, makes it appear ABC really wants us to think Melissa is on shaky ground. Which tells me she might actually be in position to the be the final one.
Anyone remember Ian’s supposedly “disastrous” hometown date with Meredith, when she only met his brother and it was weird? Yeah….
Lincee, I liked the “holla!” at the end of Molly’s paragraph. Hahahaha! I know it’s bad, but I cracked up when Jason said he learned that Hector loves Jesus.
Susan, “#41, Karen K can be a hip 20 something and still have a five year old niece” Actually she said “_great_ niece”… but I know it’s possible, I have a friend who was an auntie before she was even born… but it’s quite unusual. Anyway I posted that AS A COMPLIMENT… just fyi.
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JM #56 thanks for a great post – never can figure why folks so often seem to forget we only see what ABC edits. OHCH’s blog talks about that, he says they edit down to about 1% of what they actually film.
Agreed #17, and also agreed #28. I think DD is back to tell him he doesn’t have to go all the way through and propose at the end if he isn’t feeling it.
This was only the second show I’ve actually watched (have only read recaps the rest of the season) and it seemed to me that he had the most chemistry with Melissa and Jillian. I realize massive editing is involved, but it really looks like Molly is still really focused on pleasing her parents, who seem to be a bit too controlling. I aim to please my parents, too, but she had a different look in her eye when around them, and that convo with her dad only reinforced my thoughts. At some point, you have to be who YOU are, not who mom and dad want you to be!
Great recap, Lincee!
something i don’t think anyone picked up on here, is that the were NOT at Mel’s apartment. i believe i am correct in saying they were at a hotel in downtown Dallas. i am pretty sure that was validated on OHCH’s blog. i find it very strange that they didn’t go to the place she lives, as they have in past bachelor seasons. that big tv outside her apartment is most likely at victory, so why not show it? if she really lives there. the whole dallas date was rife with odditites. and i am not sure jason is up for any oddities. also, my money is on melissa for the next bachelorette.
#65 Poodle – They could not go to Victory Park because of the “publicness” of it. They have to keep the hometown dates under wraps so no one knows the final 4 before it airs.
Not to extend the religious debate any further, but I’m in the camp that found Hector odd and preachy. I think it’s all about perspective. As a non-Christian, I find it very odd that he went on and on about the “true” path to someone who is not a Christian. I don’t blame Jason at all for having the reaction he did. I would expect someone Christian to react equally if they had a conversation in which someone was pushing *their* religion on you. After all, look at how everyone’s making fun of Jo Anne. Clearly, that is her belief, and if it’s not cool to make fun of Hector, it’s not cool to make fun of her either, just because it’s not what you believe. I think everyone’s also wrongly assuming Naomi belives what her father does. We don’t know what she believes. And neither does Jason, based on her revelation that “maybe” they should have discussed religion beforehand. Ya think?? Naomi called herself “spiritual”, which is usually a term reserved by people who aren’t religious but who believe in either a (vague notion of a) higher power or a general moral code. So she *may* actually be more “yoked” with Jason than we think. Alas, we’ll never know. But I’m not sure if that’s a reflection of her immaturity (and certainly she was) or how BS this entire process is. I’m leaning toward the latter. A reason these relationships never work out is because people on this show rarely talk about the big questions that would be discussed before you get engaged to someone. Usually on this show the extent of it is “would you move?”. Since Jason is a dad, this season we’ve added the “could you be a mom?”, but I suspect half the Bachelorettes this season were too young and/or immature to even think about what that truly means.
The whole thing’s a trainwreck people. No matter who Jason picks, let’s hope for Ty’s sake there’s no exchange of vows until they’ve had time to ponder the big issues.
That being said….. TEAM Jilly!
Speaking of foreshadowing, did anyone else notice that Jo-Ann did her daughter in by having Jason bury the bird named ROSIE??? Nay Nay’s rose days came to end in that backyard!
Okay, jumping into the Hector conversation…
I wonder if Jason might not have appeared to be so weirded out by Hector professing his beliefs (and what he apparently thought were his daughter’s beliefs as well) if that conversation had come during a solid, pleasant, relaxing hometown date, instead of being wrapped in a dead bird’s funeral (with forced eulogy by J), hula hooping, and the mom’s talk about reincarnation…. By the time the religion talk came along, I think he had already written the family off as wack-a-doo (GREAT word!) and probably wasn’t taking any of it seriously anymore.
And yeah, I’m down with Jesus, and my mom probably wouldn’t have that conversation with a man I brought home for the first time, UNLESS that first time was the ONLY time she would meet him before I got engaged…
I was team Jillian… but now I think she needs someone a little more exciting. J is kinda boring. Jillian should be the next Bachelorette!
#22Hannah- thank you for jogging my memory on the dumbest line Nay ever said. She doesn’t care what he believes because they are (well, she is) in love?? What you believe affects how you deal with life and problems that always eventually come up in relationships. HUGE red flag . I’m glad she’s gone.
Jesus is my homeBoy. Love it!
I agree that something was a bit wonky with Melissa’s date…. but I feel like it was manufactured drama. I guess we’ll see as the weeks unfold. But I think they are giving her some drama because its been pretty apparent that he’s smitten with her.
However… Jillian is the coolest chick around with the coolest family. I wanted to be a part of that date, it looked like such fun. I was glad he let Naomi go and just wish he could have sent Molly home too. Lets just get to the heart of it!! haha!
Thanks for a great recap Lincee!
Oh yeah… and did anyone notice in the preview that he said to Mel “you don’t really talk to your parents, do you?”. I think thats the issue… she’s just not close to them. We’ll see.
I have to say this – not everyone has great parents! My parents have met none of my friends since my wedding. We learn how to be and how NOT to be from them!
My mom was not a nuturing person and did not support my career, come to my events (sports), etc. I learned how NOT to be from her. I was the “mom” to my little brother…and now that I have kids I go to all their sports and stuff.
Maybe Jason and his family are just what Melissa has been wishing for…? If she was super close to her family would she want to pack up and move?
Okay, I said all that and I am on the Jillian bus…!
#67/Cerena: Thanks for putting to words what I’ve been thinking. A lot of folks here who are applauding Hector’s eagerness to put his religious/spiritual views right out there seem to have no problem making fun of Jo Ann when she did essentially the same thing. There is no difference between the two in my mind. Both were oblivious to the fact that Jason (or anyone) might be a little put-off by the insensitivity these two displayed for his perspective/upbringing. Maybe that explains the commonalities that brought Hector and Jo Ann together, once upon a time.
This is like Gilligan’s Island…(stranded, no communication).
Skipper (Jillian’s dad)
Gilligan (Jason)
Maryann (Melissa)
Moviestar-wanna-be (Molly)
The Professor (OHCH)….
Howell’s (Molly’s family)
Oh well, I guess Gilligan did not have a 3 year old son…..
From the first time I heard Mel say “publicness” it was like fingernails on a blackboard. I, too, thought it was not a word. So, I went to the dictionary website and lo and behold: publicness–noun: the quality or state of being public or being owned by the public.
Origin: 1595–1605; public + -ness
Just as with “lo and behold”, “pulbicness” was used 400 years ago!
This has been a public-ness service announcement.
I agree with #58. Jillian looked disgusted when all Jason wanted to do was makeout while she was telling him the deep stuff from her family’s past. She’s my favorite of the remaining girls, but not right for Jason. Way too mature for him. He’s coming off, at least to me, like all he cares about is which girl is hottest. And the lack of depth from his side in the conversations provides more clarity as to why he and DD got along so well in the last series — they’re both so shallow!
To Jason, Brad, and I’m sure countless other Bachelor’s — get beyond the looks of these girls at least a little bit! No wonder you get to the end of this without anyone that you really like. I never liked Andy, but thought he did a relatively good job in this respect.
How do friends not know anything about your family? They all live in the same state so you would think they would have met them..but even if they haven’t- you would know stories!? ODD.
Jillian is cool, fun and normal and should be picked.
I think Naomi was sweet in the car ride home and it shows who she is as a person. Much like Stephanie’s exit- she showed class instead of anger/brat like Natalie did.
Does anyone else find it odd that NO ONE asks questions about Ty? You might be the stepmom as some point- don’t you want to find out about the kid?
#67/Cerena & #74/JennX – I’m with the two of you. Why the double-standard? Being oblivious to the fact that maybe, just maybe, people have beliefs different from yours is problematic whether your belief system is a majority one or a minority one. Jo Anne is just as fair game or as off-limits as Hector is. The fact that they’re so different is pobably what broke them up, but the fact that they’re both so bullheaded is probably what initially brought them together.
On to other wack-a-doos…… What was up with Princess Molly? And poor Mel…… I understand not being close to your family, but for your “friends” to know NOTHING about them?? Something smell reeeeeaaaalllllly fishy there!
Jillian for the “win”.
Remember #78, most of the conversations are on the cutting room floor! The producer said that we see about 1% of what is actually filmed….
When has any tv show ever portrayed a follower of Jesus(especially an outspoken one) in a positive light? It’s not politically correct!
I think that is why a lot of us are defending Hector, and not JoAnne(re: #74) Hector and JoAnne were BOTH right to bring up their beliefs, remember, you marry the family, not just the girl. Jason has even said that is important to him. As for either one of them, we don’t know how they actually said things, remember: EDITING, people, EDITING. I applaud Hector for having the guts to bring up Jesus even though he might not have had the best tone…not everyone has an easy time talking about their faith, especially on national television where it is not cool to be serious about Jesus. I’m just sayin’…
I don’t think it’s odd at all that Melissa didn’t have her parents on the show. They are probably just smarter than 90% of the other families that end up on The Bachelor. Who wants editors to be able to cut shots to show a crazy family? NO thank you- I wouldn’t want my family to be embarrassed on national tv. Also, my husband’s parents live in the same area as we do and we only see them on holidays. They aren’t close and it’s not a big deal.
I really don’t think Melissa’s “close” friends were really her BFFs. I think they were a more appropriate group to show Jason that Mel is ready to settle down. Obviously the girls with married friends with children are the ones looking for Mr. Right. The girls with the friends out bar hopping are doing the body shots right alongside their “besties.”
Unfortunately, I’m not really into Jason as much as I was when he was on the Bachelorette. I think he is much more shallow! He is all about making out with the girls-yuck. He’s a dude, so I can’t blame him too much, but come on, don’t forget you are picking out Ty’s future step-mom. Not just some hot babe to make out with.
#76 – Deb – thanks for the public+ness service announcement – Hilarious! That’s good info. and we’ll go ahead and call Mel an intellectual at this point! She knew all along it was a word!!!!
I think with the intelligence, wit and insightfulness of all of the people on this blog – we could solve the world’s problems…… Nah, let’s just continue to make fun of silly people on the Bach!
Remember what Steph said to Jason (it was edited from the episode but Steph has said this interviews) — as she was leaving she said “you marry into the family” when Jason asked for advice.
Who are you rooting for?
Stephanie: Um,(Pauses). You know, I think I’m gonna have to just watch, honestly, for the hometown dates and see how he connects with the families. Because I did say one thing to Jason, and that is “You do marry the family [too].” He asked for one piece of advice, which was off-camera, [just as he was putting me in the limousine] and we were saying “Bye” and he said “What is one piece of advice you could give me? I mean, I trust you and I value your opinion.”
I said “Just remember when you make those hometown dates that [you should] really evaluate that, and you do marry into the family. Just be where you fit in,” and all of that. “[Try and see] if a family is too demanding of you or if they’re gonna be overbearing, or if they seem to mesh perfectly with you. Look at all those things.”
So how can he do that when Melissa’s family is a no-show and doesn’t want anything to do with it?
loisanddean: Really? Cuz as a non-believer I swear I hear nothing but “god this” and “god that” on TV and other places ALL the time. Christian (and therefore Jesus-based) holidays are widely celebrated (tv specials, etc.). A person cannot run for office without constantly reaffirming their religious beliefs– Christian anyway. God help you (no pun intended) if you’re mistaken for a Muslim! Anyway, I really tried to refrain from jumping into this too much here, because I know it’s not the place and I like having a forum I visit that is about something as awesomely silly as the Bachelor, but I really can’t take the whole “Christians are so persecuted in our society” myth. It wasn’t the fact that Hector stated his beliefs that bothered me, it was his proselytizing tone.
One thing that virtually everyone here keeps forgetting (or doesn’t know): This is not happening in real time. All of the hometown dates took place at least many weeks ago, and there is no reason to believe that Jason meeting up with __________ (choose name here) cannot have taken place in “publicness” — we’re not talking about world famous people here!
Another thing: Jason comments during this last episode that the women went home to their respective families and had at least a little time with them in advance of his arrival. Which means that 1) they had time to tell their parents about him and the parents had time to prepare themselves and their questions, 2) Melissa had time to either get friends ready in place of her parents, and 3) Rosie had time to commit kamikaze into Wacko-Mom’s windshield.
It’s absolutely true that plenty of people are not close to their parents, and in many cases the reasons are fully justified. However, Melissa talks glowingly about her parents leading up to the hometown date, and gives us (and Jason) the impression that there is no question about being able to meet them. So either they pulled a fast one on her, or she’s pulled a fast one on all of us, including Jason.
Having said that, I have to believe that if Jason were REALLY serious about Melissa, and it’s a REQUIREMENT for him to meet them, this could be arranged privately, not part of the filmed sequences, and not shared with us. Let’s face it — Jason has already, on at least one occasion, done things out of the normal Bachelor protocol — there’s not reason to think he can’t or won’t do it again.
Did anyone notice on the winery/depression date that Jason said something to Jillian like “you didn’t back up that time” after he kissed her? Maybe she has been calling him out on only trying to kiss and not talk when they are together.
#81 loisanddean, I think some people have TOO easy of a time talking about their faith, especially if they get the chance to preach or to try to show what “good Christians” they are when they state Jesus is the only way, end of the line. No, I certainly would not suggest that all Christians are like this. But as a non-Christian, I sure as heck see it a lot.
The bottom line is that everyone here defending Hector shares his beliefs about Jesus, which is why they liked to see him bring it up. And that’s fine. More power to you. But many of the rest of us — the very people you might actually be interested in turning on to Jesus — actually found his approach off-putting and self-serving.
BD, I noticed that too, and found it very interesting. I took it to mean that in the past she has sometimes pulled away from him when he tried to kiss her. Innnnteresting. Is she playing hard to get? Just not too into him? Or just not willing to always blubber all over him and accept whatever physical groping he tosses her way? (I vote for the third one.) She clearly had him interested enough to try to keep going in for a kiss…
#86 sfomelissa – Yes, we do know that this is not happening in real time. And yes, the girls are not famous and during the time of filming no one would know who they were. But, it was well publicized that Jason was the Bachelor before filming ever started. He was known from his time on The Bachelorette, so, while perhaps not “famous” by your definition, he would be easily recognized. That is why they try to keep all of the HTDs out of the public eye.
#28 Gina – I TOTALLY agree with your theory. I think DeAnna is coming on to warn him that she, in retrospect, felt that she rushed into things and wishes she hadn’t gotten engaged at the end of her show, and to caution him that maybe he shouldn’t propose, but do the real-life dating thing instead. However, we do know from previews that aired even before Jason’s season started that he was engaged at the end, so… if that is DeAnna’s advice for him, clearly he does not take it. I think ABC is just editing the DeAnna stuff to make it look like she’s trying to get him back.
Jillian is by far my favorite, but I think too good for Jason. I think he may realize this. Not sure how he can be drawn to Melissa and Jillian at the same time — opposite ends of the maturity spectrum. I’d be all about Jillian as the next Bachelorette!
I don’t know that Jason’s, “I learned that Hector really loves Jesus” comment was meant sarcastically or in a way that was making fun – I think it was more pointing out that it made Jason uncomfortable as someone non-religious or of a different faith to be confronted with that issue by a practical stranger and that was how Jason expressed it, plus whatever Jason said after that was edited out so do we really know how he felt about it? I don’t think so. ABC turned Hector into a caricature through the editing just like they do with all these people.
Also, I definitely noticed that Jillian was backing away from Jason’s kisses a few times – I think it gets back to the whole thing with their discussion in Seattle about whether her expectations were too high and was he going to get his heart broken with her – she doesn’t trust him completely – I loved her family and think she is awesome, but I think he’ll pick Molly or Melissa in the end just because he’ll be too scared to pick Jillian…
I don’t think you all understand the extent to which these hometown dates are controlled by the producers. Do you remember the last time that the family didn’t show up for the hometown? Amber, from Andy’s season. Remember the Aunt that said she couldn’t show up and then “surprised” them by dropping by at the end of the night? Well, this Aunt had volunteered her home for a lovely family day and dinner but the producers ix-nayed (is that even how you spell that?) that (without telling poor Amber) and told her Aunt to tell Amber she couldn’t make it, and instead, to just show up as a “surprise” later. They then arranged for her to spend her date at her apartment with her roomie. And, they were sweet enough to go buy spaghetti-O’s for her roommate to cook (to add to the immaturity of the whole thing, which ended up being Andy’s reason for sending her home). The roommate at least had enough sense to not cook the spaghetti-O’s.
I applaud the people that have pointed out the double standard regarding Hector’s beliefs and Joanne’s beliefs. He came on very strong and somehow feels justified in that as many religious people do (not all), yet if someone calls him wacky there are troops of people defending him. Religion is a belief not a fact and Joanne’s belief in reincarnation is just as valid. I would not want to sit and listen to her rave on about it but neither would i want to listen to Hector.
Just wanted to put this out there for everyone saying there must be something seriously wrong with Melissa for her family to not be around and for her friends to not know her parents…
I lived through years and years of mental, emotional and physical abuse, lots of stuff WAY too ugly to get into on the Bachelor recap, at the hands of my “mother” and “father” and in my twenties, became a strong enough person to get out. I have NO contact with them and they know NOTHING about my life as it is today. Yes, mother’s day sucks as does father’s day and christmas and my birthday and all sorts of other times when it would be so nice to have a loving family. Try planning a wedding with out a mother. It’s a pretty sad and lonely time, especially because so many people out there rush to judge you when your parents are absent from your life. But I know who I am and I am happy with that.
Don’t be so harsh to judge. Just because someone’s family isn’t part of their life doesn’t mean it’s that person who is the f-up. Believe me, not every parent out there is a good one. Just read the newspaper on any given day and you’ll find plenty of proof.
I agree with all those out there saying that Melissa’s family not showing up or her friends not really knowing about her family isn’t that big of a deal. For one thing, we are really only seeing a limited part of the situation/conversations surrounding this. I thought it was sweet and 100% normal that her dad said that meeting Jason for the first time should be special/something he wanted to cherish (it was something along those lines). Even if she told Jason originally he’d be meeting her parents, I don’t hold that against her. They may have agreed to it originally and then changed their minds. I don’t fault them that.
I will say as someone incredibly close to my family, I still don’t find the Melissa and her family situation off-putting. Maybe in the real world after dating for a year it would be strange if they wouldn’t meet her “boyfriend”, but honestly, it has been 4 weeks on a tv show with a guy who has made out with 10 other girls. It is an out of the norm situation!! I have a hunch that Jason got to or gets to meet them off camera. Just a hunch.
Anyone else wonder if her brother is at Baylor? Waco is the first place that popped into my head when she said he was an hour and a half away. If so, he may just be wrapped up in the college thing. Or if he is shy (opposite of Melissa), he may not have been into being on national tv.
The main red flag for me with Melissa is her low self-esteem. Her friends really threw her under the bus. “She only dates losers. Guys always dump her. We told her for years to dump her loser boyfriend.” Melissa just sits there and nods. WTH!
wow, if these recaps get any longer they’ll have to be published as novels
While I agree that it’s not a HUGE deal that Melissa’s parents didn’t want to come on national TV. However, if she’s in a situation like #95 JasonRocks talks about…then that’s something she should have told Jason, rather than previously talking up Bob & Mary, about how wonderful they are and how that’s who Jason would meet if she took him home (she said that in the last episode)… It’s just so very fishy.
#95 — right ON! My husband is in the same situation. His parents were just plain AWFUL to him growing up. They both did things that make my stomach turn. He cut off his relationship with them long before I came into the picture and to this day he does not have contact with them (or his brother). Does make holidays rough, and made us getting married and having a child that much rougher, but…I 110% support him in his decision. Easy to judge given the editing that’s going on, but we don’t know the whole story.
I agree with #96 who said the main issue is her low self esteem. A pretty, sweet girl like that should have a ton of confidence, but she just doesn’t. I want to hug her!
I don’t think Melissa is the first bachlorette whose parents flaked out of a HTD. I think the same thing happened to Estella on Bob Guinney’s season. I believe she and Bob just hung out at her condo by themselves. He ended up picking her, but of course they lasted only a couple of months, if that.
I think there were some HUGE red flags with Melissa after this episode. First of all, she never said she had a problem with her parents and tried to avoid them. It seemed perfectly acceptable to her to be a DALLAS COWBOY CHEERLEADER and her parents never come to a game. And apparently not want to meet the guy she might be engaged to in two weeks. Strange, very strange.
And the friends. They’ve met her parents once. And didn’t even remember that. And when they said most of Melissa’s exes ‘used and abused’ her? Very creepy. Just all of that stuff about not meeting good guys, always being the one getting dumped, etc. Big red flag.
Anyway, my prediction is that Jason chooses Melissa and then breaks up with her (he dumps her of course) within three months. Frankly, I doubt they’ll even date long enough for him to ever meet her parents. And then Jason returns as the Bachelor again next season. I’m afraid we’re stuck with him until we can find little Ty a mommy. In fact, I think ABC should just rotate Jason and DDAHnna until *one* of them gets married.
#95 – Again, I think what’s throwing most of us off, or at least just me is that all those red flags were thrown up on the date, but what I kept thinking about was when Jason asked Melissa what going to her hometown would be like. Besides talking about the huge screen outside her apartment, didn’t she talk about her family in a favorable light, and like it would be one big fun, barbecuing party?
Or am I remembering that wrong? Can anyone remember what she said? Because I feel like if that’s the way she portrayed her family, and then to have this past episode that was so bizarre (especially without her friends not knowing her parents at all), there’s a big disconnect. It may have been just a snippet of a line about what it might be like, but it’s there in my brain. So my natural conclusion is, “Did she lie about her family and the relationship she had with them in order to get him to keep her?”
However, again (agayn) I could be remembering all this incorrectly. But that’s my theory on why we’re all a little weird-ed out by what happened. And of course, by all the ridiculous editing and heavy-handed producing.
#102 — she did say he would meet “Bob and Mary” and her brother…
I’m wondering if, since we think this is all out of order, if maybe something happened between that conversation and when she had her hometown visit?
I’ll have to go back to my DVR and double check for sure but I remember when Melissa was talking about Jason meeting Bob, Mary and her brother he asked what they were like and she said that they were alot different then her. That she was the “black sheep” because she was so outgoing and that they were much more quite and reserved. Plus if she had told him that he wouldn’t meet them I could totally see ABC saying “Let’s re-tape that” this time play up the meeting and then it will be dramatic when he doesn’t get to meet them. IMHO
*high fives #77 and #81*
Here’s another thing I thought of. Somebody said somewhere that Molly is treating this just like winning a game or competition. I completely agree with that. How ’bout her looking at Dad with a big grin when he said “You’re a WINNER!” They were shaking their heads. It’s like she was getting a pep talk before the big golf tournament. lol What a joke.
#22…YES, Jesus lover…noticed the Amy Grant likeness. And you’re right on! I totally agree.
#21…Hi-lar-i-ous! “Rah Rah gots herself some secrets up in the attic,you!”
#38…I understand your point about approach. Get it. But as Christians, we believe that Jesus, IS “THE” Way. Not “a” way. Other religions may claim or appear to be more “open minded” and say that there are “many” ways. But as Christians, we just cannot do that. Jesus said it best Himself …anyone that comes to the Father ANY way except through Him, is the same as a thief and a robber. Sorry, didn’t mean to be “preachy”. Really, I didn’t. I’m just making a point. I DO get, however, that approach is important. But again, this is “reality T.V.”. Do we really know how long they talked? EDITING people? Still, the approach. Get your point.
Also, I understand the point about the double-standard. JoAnn was expressing her beliefs. Not knocking her for doing that. I just think she was odd. The same way others may think Hector was odd. I would not attack that opinion. Even if I disagreed.
Change-subject-here…
Uh, publicness? Oh, never mind…just learned, thanks to the comments..IT IS A WORD….
At least she didn’t say, “things are going great with Jason and I.” EEEKKK. I hate that….issues with the bad english. But I’ll stop there lest you find an error in my comment and humility befall me.
Hey, I’m a great-aunt, people! I HAVE a great-neice and great-nephew. She’s almost 9, he’s 61/2. AND I THINK I’M A PRETTY COOL 39 year old.
Mol’s parents…EDITing. LOTS and lots of editing… At least that’s what I “think”.
Lincee, I LOVED your take on JoAnn coming back into the living room as Lauren reincarnated from several episodes ago.
Pineapple.
Parents don’t have to be straight up abusive to not be in your life. They can be self-absorbed. They may not realize that the message they send is…”kid, you’re not that important!” Hence the low self-esteem…
Or they may be very nice, private people that have heard that reality tv mocks you and tries to manipulate you and your family for drama or absurdity! They may have been too smart to allow it!
Chickpea, I took that as a compliment. Thanks! But I’m not a hip 20-something as much as a 40-something with a bad right hip! LOL! I just refuse to grow up and think that you have to laugh to get through life with even a little sanity. Besides, my little great niece keeps me young…and tired!
I stand by my original theory. Mel Texas Chainsaw Massacred her ‘rents and bro. The big shock at the finale is that J is on bended knee proposing to Mel. She cries a single tear down her dewy little cheek. “Yes J! Yes I will marry you and Ty!” J gets up, swoops and twirls her. Cut to OHCH walking down the pathway followed by some dark suit clad serious men with mirrored sunglasses. They walk up to Mel and say “Melissa Whatsherface, you are arrested for the chopping up of your parents and brother.” She gets cuffed and leaves J standing there all confused. J says to OHCH “Dude, can we go get Jill and reshoot this whole ending?” Fades into the sunset. Most shocking finale EVER!
Just saying….
I totally agree with #28 Gina!! DD isn’t there to beg him back – she’s there to give some ‘free’ advice for someone who’s already made a mistake. Boo – ABC. Bad trickery.
Lincee – the recurring Indian Style theme is cracking me up. Plus, all the 1/2 names are starting to make me laugh throughout the whole freakin’ show.
As a side note – I really think the girls are nicer – in general & to each other – this season than I’ve ever seen. Is this true? or just more trickery?
I did not notice the rose on the podium after he said Melissa’s name. I wonder if you are right, and they are trying to throw us off the Melissa trail.
I liked her and still like her. I just want her to win.
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Lincee…WHY is my comment awaiting moderation???
anyone…#105, is it me? Throw me something…
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*** IMPORTANT INFO FOR BACHELOR VIEWERS ***
Hi!
No time to read all of the comments, so hopefully this hasn’t been mentioned yet. Apparently, the end of the show is SO unbelievably shocking that not only will we be getting an ‘After The Final Rose” show immediately after the finale, but we will ALSO be getting an “After The Final Rose: Part 2″ the following night!
It seems a certain someone is threatening to spill MAJOR details about the show BEFORE the alphabet network gets a chance to tell their side of the story, so they are adding the EXTRA hour the following night to explain everything. LOL!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090212/tv_nm/us_bachelor_1
I was in a somewhat similar situation as Melissa’s parents. My daughter auditioned and was selected for MTV Room Raiders. I refused to be in any shots or interviews (but I did support her behind the sidelines). I made that choice because I had seen how ridiculous other moms and dads were made out to look when the show is aired. Additionally, I have a professional job, and I DID NOT want any of my business colleagues to see me on a reality television show where you can’t control the results of the staging and editing going on behind the scenes.
Last comment – I know very few of my daughter’s friends with the exception of 1 very close friend. Her time with her friends is not normally spent at home (she’s 23).
I just read this in a Kirkland Jason interview dated January 19th….something I did not know about – he is talking about Bevin??
Q: What brought you to be on The Bachelor?
A: A friend of mine who I’ve known for 10 years and she was on The Bachelor show maybe two years ago. And she moved down to California and I didn’t know she was going to be on the show, but I just remember turning it on and it was kind of mid way through the season. I know her really well, she was actually in my wedding. She’s from the Seattle area. I just remember watching it and thinking, God, this is really interesting, and then on the final day when she got rejected by Andy I thought, you know what, I’d like to do something like that. I mean I didn’t know that was going to be my future destiny at that point, but I sent an e-mail in and I said here’s my story and they called me back a year later. I remember getting the voicemail and playing it for my brother Larry, thinking get a load of this. There’s no way that they’re calling me. So you never think that you’re going to make it to the show, but little do you think you’re ever going to make it past that first night, let alone get to the final day or get rejected on the final day and then have this happen. So it’s been a snowball from then.
There are going to be TWO After the Final Rose shows. Fleiss says “it’s the most shocking and the best ending they’ve ever had.”
“The ABC intern shakes some keys at Jo Ann to distract her as the ABC psychotherapist escorts Jason to the backyard where Nay and all the kids are playing freeze tag. ”
Seriously,laughed so hard I had tears….too good!!
A – where did you read that??
Everyone should know by now…it is ALL in the editing. If you look back on your DVR’s to the first episode when they show what is going to happen this season, and Jason gets down on one knee to propose…he proposes to a girl in a blue dress. Obviously, we don’t get to see that girl. However, we see that girl and her hand and on said hand’s pinkie finger is a gold band. This gold band is worn by all present and past DCC cheerleaders. Besides, Molly & Jillian don’t have on a pinkie ring finger the entire season…but Melissa does. He picks Melissa my friends…100% sure of it…I’m just sayin’.
#116 – not sure where “A” got the info, but realitysteve has it posted on his website. they are going to have a 2 hour finale, then a 1-hour ATFR. then an ATFR: Part 2 the following night…
I heard a couple of rumors that Jason had met Melissa in Dallas when he was visiting Jeremy and told her to try out for the show. Has anyone else heard that rumor?
I read in US Weekly this past week the DDhana is datine Ace from the Real World and Jesse has moved on to Holly from the Bachelor:London. So why does ABC pump everything up when they can’t keep it a secret until the show airs?
This is where I saw it: : )
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i1399f628c24f49a28e7e75611e5138aa
Um… were you all seeing the same Naomi as I was seeing?
Ladies, please leave the decision making as to who is the hottest bachelorette up to us guys. Once again, women struggle with the concept of smoking hot/gorgeous, and too often misapply the smoking hot/gorgeous label. I am not saying Nay is ugly per se, just that she isn’t smoking hot or gorgeous.
Thank you.
Hollywood Reporter dot com, my link is awaiting moderation…
JenE, don’t you think the producers are aware that crazy sleuths could easily figure out all those clues? I have noticed in past seasons that while it APPEARS they might be giving away the answer, usually they do not. Of course, it does seem he likes Mel the best. But for my own entertainment I am going to believe that there really is some shocking, crazy, unprecedented ending and take those screenshots as decoys.
I’m still stuck on the fact that Jason says he wants someone ready to settle down & live his lifestyle, yet keeps all the 20 something girls around. Puh leeez! And the constant face sucking is ‘riding my last nerve like a pony’
Re: the ‘tell all screencaps’ that show that Melissa must be the winner? Remember that RealitySteve says in his blog that this season, ABC has finally grown a brain. I think maybe what he means by that is that ABC finally figured out that people are freezing, enlarging, going over with a magnifying glass, depixilating etc every single thing they can get their hands on, and so decided to have some fun and make it IMPOSSIBLE to sleuth from the screencaps by using decoys. I sure hope so, because I think Melissa would be a bad choice for our boy Jason. Of course when the final choice comes down to 1) a real adult and 2) a Dallas Cowboy cheerleader, I’m not sure we can count on most guys to make the right choice. But we’ll see
Trying to figure out this shocking ending thing is taking up way too much of my time. I definitely can see the spark b/w Jason and Melissa. But I just can’t see how they fit together in the long run (or even the short run for that matter). Reading between the lines, when her friends were telling Jason that all the guys she dates disrepect her and only want to hang out with their buddies, I’m thinking hmmm…. are they talking about players for the Dallas Cowboys? THat kind of explains why she puts up with it, and keeps going back to the same type. Somehow, I just don’t see her picking up an moving to Seattle to be with Jason. I have a feeling she’s going to break his heart.
If Jason picked Melissa, there just wouldn’t be anything shocking about that – at least not enough to warrant all this hype. I think it is going to be one of those, he picks one girl, she rejects him, and it picks the other scenarios OR that he sends one home and brings her back. Now that would be drama!
I remember reading somewhere that the final 2 will meet Ty, but I can’t remember where I read that. Maybe Jason’s blog? Will they go back to Seattle? Or will Ty come to NZ?
With two After the Final Rose shows…surely…Lincee must have a spot in one of them!!! PLEEEEEEEEEEEASE??!
remember reading on an old post that Jason and the “winner” are already married?? I bet that’s the big shocker. And someone who knows Melissa said it’s not Melissa, she’s not in Seattle…..so maybe Jace and Jill are now married and living in Seattle. I’m just sayin’ …….
At “Women Tell All,” I see a wigged and costumed Lincee singing an upbeat rose-themed medley, while Megan and Erica mud-rassle.
So over on Reality Steve’s site he is saying he is more than likely going to spill what he knows before ABC does (ATFR2)…if he does PLEASE do not post it over here and spoil it for us that do not want to know. Pretty Pretty please!
Patty — I don’t think Reality Steve will spill it before the finale airs…
I hope not!
Lincee, I have been a long time reader of your blog but I have never commented. I just had to this time though and tell you that your recaps just keep getting better and better!
Mol: “Cry. I will not cry in the limo.”
Dad: “And why is that?”
Mol: “Because there’s no crying in baseball. Or golf. Or reality TV.”
No crying in baseball! Too funny! And Pineapple! I laughed so hard I seriously almost fell out of my chair. Well done Lincee!
The following is actually “Fly on the Wall’s” entry from the last post but I wanted to paste it here b/c it is so interesting and answers some of the questions that people are raising on this thread.
Finally, you can’t fault Melissa for not telling Jason earlier that her parents would be there. It works like this: during the show she had zero contact with her parents. In fact, had she followed the rules that ABC gives the girls she would not even be allowed to tell her parents where she was going or what she was going to do when she got there. There are literally girls every season who go on this show without telling their parents where they are going. The girls are supposed to lie and make up a story.
As soon as Jason makes his decisions as to the final 4 the ABC interns are on the horn making travel reservations for the hometowns- literally as he is handing out the roses reservations are being made. It happens lightning fast. As soon as the rose ceremony is over the girls are taken to separate hotels to wait until their hometown. Once their hometown arrives they are flown directly to a hotel there and then the first time they see their parents is on the day of the date. It all happens very fast – the crew is travelling from hometown to hometown every 2 days – and the girls aren’t in contact with Jason during this time. All 4 hometowns are completed in about a week. So the first chance she would have had to tell him about her parents was when he got to Dallas. I mean, obviously the show could have allowed her to call him, but now why would they want to ruin the draaaama
I think Hector was trying to preach on national TV. It seemed like ABC was making fun of both parents. The editing made them look like fanatics.
I do not think you should question your child’s date about their faith. That is between the couple. It would be weird if I had a come to Jesus meeting with someone one of my children brought home.
Mel’s parents had the right idea. It seems like each season they make the families look silly.
ABC knows that the sleuths look at all the footage. On the Brad season, all the girls had the same manicure by the final rose episode. I still hope it is Jillian and that she starts wearing a pinkie ring.
I don’t know what’s going to happen, and I’m not even going to try and figure it out! I’m just going to become one with a bottle of wine and watch!
Well put, Jeannie (#141)! The rumors about the shocking ending are becoming annoying. How shocking could it be? Jason remarries his ex? Jason’s gay? Jason marries the ABC intern? Jason chooses Melissa but then she’s arrested for murder? Anyone else wondering about the discrepancy between what she said in an earlier episode about having just the one boyfriend for many years and what her friends were saying about all the jerks she dates?
I’m team jillian– but I’m getting suspicious of the whole proposal in new zealand…is anyone else out there wondering like me….where is the final 2 episode where they meet jason’s family and ty?? there hasn’t been any previews of it and seems odd, go straight from overnight dates to proposal…wondering if he picks deanna as “the shocker” because she’s already been there/done that….just skip the meet the parents episode straight to the proposal….
It is all very strange and there is so much talk of it all being fake and scripted now and that the ending was “constructed.” That would really be a huge disappointment. I like to think that at least we are seeing a true love story even if it doesn’t always work out for long!
I’ll throw my hat into the ring and make a wild, speculative & even unsubstantiated guess as to the “most shocking finale. EVAH!” :::cough:::
Jay picks Mel. (sorry but I agree about the pinky ring and the stubby fingers theory) (that’s how I knew almost from the start that Matt was going to pick a monkey, I mean Shayne. Stubby fingers sans long nails and/or polish)
However, I digress . . . . I think Jay and Mol’s horizontal hokey-pokey in the tent resulted in a major ruh-roh!!!
Just found out the TRUTH about the Bachelor.
Wow.
I’m having a hard time getting my mind around it.
I hate ABC and I am so DONE with The Bachelor!!!
so Krystah, what exactly does that mean… the TRUTH about the Bachelor????
What is the truth Khrystah, I heard its a doozy. Was this ending a scam like others are saying?
Most of you are giving Jason way too much credit. If it were not for Ty he would be seen as the immature man that he is. Mel is perfect for him. In Seattle she’ll need a raincoat to wear over those dreadful shorts.
Trust funds are only bad when you don’t have one!
Kudos to those of you who saw the rose that was still on the podium after mel’s name was called.
The dove was probably a pigeon.
Thanks to those of you who gave a shout-out to Jesus! If Jason were a practicing Jew, I think he would have told Hector and Joann.
Thanks to Lincee for keeping us laughing!
I agree with Valentine (149 above) and also want to stand up for Jesus. Hypocrits and preachy people have misled many. He really is our Lord and Savior, and we have the free will to accept or reject Jesus. Accepting Christ doesn’t mean you become Hector.
146, I hope you tell us more about the TRUTH. I know there must be more out there than we are discussing. Anyone dare comment that has been on the show and knows more inside skinny?
I’ll also add:
-My husband suspects that Mel’s parents are known in their city or community and don’t want to be associated with reality TV.
-I think that Jason shouldn’t propose until he has some extended time with Ty and his choice of woman in the real world. Ty does have a mother, but step parents are very important to the children as well.
-Do you think Molly’s daddy would have been as kind, knowing that Jason had his way in the tent with his little girl for the night?
-Any comments out there about how the girls deal with it that their possible fiance is making out and possibly making love to others? I think the “I’m so confused” “I don’t know who to pick” is a lie. And it is sick to use other people for intimacy and lead them on knowing full well who is the final one.
Also, I agree with those that compare Molly to Nellie Olsen. Or even Muffy Crosswire from Arthur and Varuka from Willy Wonka. Ha! I was waiting for her to say “Daddy, when Bachelor is over, I want you to buy me another pony…” She has rich snob written all over her
Finally, I finished reading all the comments….y’all are all so great! But I have to put my two cents worth in here regarding Melissa & her family. I know several of you have, but here’s my perspective: Seeing similarities between Melissa and myself, I guess I’m kind of defending myself as well. Here we go….
So, she’s either not real close with her parents (like me, although I love them, I don’t see them very often. We lead totally different lifestyles…I think someone earlier said it best. I learned what NOT to be by watching them) or her parents truly are private people for whatever reasons; i.e.: social standing, shy, whatever…
I have always been the “black sheep” of my family. We love each other, but I am more of the outgoing, preppy, sporty type girl, my sisters are wrangler wearing (not that there is anything wrong with these differences-just pointing out that they ARE differences), boots, out in the mud, no make-up, hair down past their behinds country girls. My mom is that way too. That’s just the beginning of the differences, but we’ll leave it at that. I learned early on that I didn’t want to live like that and I made choices in my life that led me to not lead that life. Now that doesn’t take away my love for my family and my appreciation for the hard work my single mother went through to raise me. But I am not real close with any of them. Some of my friends have met my mother, but they don’t know my mother. We don’t hang out at my mother’s house. Because of the way I was raised, watching my mom “date”, I really didn’t have a sense of what true love was or how to recognize it. I dated a bunch of jerks before I found “The One”. In fact, I was in my 30′s before I found “The One”.
So, I just can’t see why everyone is picking on Melissa for dating losers in the past and her family not wanting to be on national TV. My mom would die if I told her TV cameras were coming to her modest home and/or she would have to be on TV. She would just die. We all learn from our upbringing and our dating experiences. We learn what things are important to us, what things make us compatible with someone and what things to avoid.
I applaud Melissa for growing up, going for her dreams (making the DCC squad is NOT an easy task), and rising above whatever family discord may be there. Her “picker” may have been broken for a long time, but I truly think Jason is a good guy. He may be a bit boring, not rich, etc. etc. But what’s wrong with a guy that looks like he does, works for a living and is a loving, attentive father? Isn’t that what we all want to find in a guy? Well, except for the girls who go by the motto “you can fall in love with a rich man as easily as you can a poor man”. I’ve known a few girls like that in my life. But anyway, Melissa is adorable and if Jason doesn’t choose her in the end, then this will be another growing, learning experience for her. Best of luck to her and I say don’t give up! Not all the good ones are taken…..
#151: HAHAHA! Muffy Crosswire!! (I love Arthur, and I don’t even have kids… is that really sad?)
# 60 Jenna. Well said! I totally agree!!!!!
Go Jillian!
Krystah…my reaction exactly! (except i was done with the Bachelor a long time ago, haha) Wait, I take that back…I was done the the concept of the Bachelor as a “love story” a long time ago…now I love watching it because I find it entertaining now that I know how the show is really done – puts a whole new spin on it. But oh how I remember the day sitting there gazing at Trista’s proposal by Ryan in the garden and thinking what an absolute dream it would be to be in her position … eh, now that fantasysmantasy is blown to pieces. (though she did seem to somehow find love out of this show…I think that was back before the producers gained their bearings and started to “produce” the show like they do now)
#150, I agree it is sick. I am going to play devils advocate here (in defense of the bachelor, not the show). Remember that this whole thing wraps in 6 weeks. For me it often takes waaayyy longer than 6 weeks to figure out if someone is right for me, and that is if I’m only dating one person! haha Now put yourself in his positions….you start out with 25 girls…4 weeks later you are down to 4 and then two weeks later you are supposed to be proposing to one of them – and throughout the whole thing you’ve probably not spent more than 24 solid hours alone with each one of them. It is a heady experience and when you are being whisked around the world travelling from hear to there…trying to aclimate yourself to the strange world of tv, and then meanwhile are supposed to be figuring out if one of these 25 girls is your future wife – I can see how they are confused! That being said however, there is absolutely NO excuse for being so intimate with each of these girls.
I have to say the funniest thing in the recap was “The ABC intern shakes some keys at Jo Ann to distract her”. She was truly odd, but prettier than her daughter. I’m sorry people but I thought Naomi was a DOG. Wuff!
“The dove was probably a pigeon.”
A dove IS a pigeon. It’s just the common name used for a smaller white one.
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#157, I totally agree. Lincee ALWAYS makes me laugh, but that was classic…. Poor JoAnne, ABC did edit her to look like a wack-a-doo! She’s probably as nice as can be with a few quirks…we all have quirks right?
OK Krystah and Fly on the Wall – can you spell out exactly what you are saying? Is it all fake with actors – or are they real people who are being manipulated by the producers? What is the big shocking thing?
Don’t know if anyone has looked at People’s website lately but they just posted an interview with NayNay and she is apparently still good friends with a couple of the girls…I won’t repeat what she said but I found it interesting (not all that insightful though).
Lincee – Fantastic recap as always!
And #152 I completely agree with you…I am very close with my parents/family but they’ve never even met my roommate (granted I live a good distance from them), but I can’t imagine they would want anything to do with a show like this either…and my mom watches it on a regular basis! And I’ve had the same best friend since I was 11 and I think she would say that she doesn’t know my parents that well, but that’s because we just did our own thing most of the time. I don’t find it that odd at all…just ABC playing up the drama.
#146 – where did you get this information? I am not sure I really care to find out what happens but I am kind of over the show already.
Happy Friday everyone!!
Krystah-What is going on????!??!?!?!?!? The Bachelor world has been turned upside down. Please let us know what you know!
Has anyone else read all the “spoiler alerts” about the winner (?) of the Bachelor? In the ending pics that were shown in the early shows this season showed Jason on his knee proposing to a girl with a pinkie ring……..Melissa is the pinkie ring wearer. Wipe the tears…yes, she is Jason’s love. Disgusting!!
Ginger – don’t be too sure about that. ABC has caught on to the fact that there are people who depixilate every screencap, and there has also been much talk about how “ABC has finally grown a brain” and that “the person who edited the screencaps should get an Emmy.” It could very well be a decoy.
I also happened to notice, when looking through a previous episode that I had DVR’d before, that Stephanie also was wearing a pinkie ring. Not that I think that Stephanie miraculously reappears…I’m just sayin’
If you ask me, the blue dress + arm from the screencap looks the most like…Tessa! But I’m pretty sure it’s not her
Molly= perfect match for Andy Bernard (the Office)? Anyone?
Please everyone who is posting spoilers please stop…I love Lincee’s blog and the comments but I want to continue to read them and not read who the winner is before the final rose is given out…I know they are just “spoilers” and may not necessarily be true but if everyone could just resist the temptation to put names down I think a lot of us would appreciate it. Thanks everyone!
Colorado Cat,
I dont exactly know if its true…..I was hoping someone would post something to disprove the whole thing. I reaaaallly want Molly to win!!! But, the reality is…..Melissa = pinky ring.
Supposedly Naomi’s aunt makes a comment on her hometown visit here….
http://www.pe.com/localnews/rivcounty/stories/PE_News_Local_S_bachelor11.38eebbf.html
The screencaps are meaningless. They are akin to the outer cover of a novel…they give you a snapshot of a moment in time but reveal nothing about what really happens.
Someone posted earlier that Stephanie wore a gold pinkie ring… that doesn’t make me think that ABC gives away Stephanie as the final rose!
Ginger, do you peek at your Christmas presents early?
They are all real people, just manipulated. To my knowledge, they do not hire actors – but they do their best to turn the “real people” into actors, hence why they refer to them as the “cast.”
Lincee, seriously, this is the most hilarious recap you have ever done. LOL
I have to make a few comments here:
1) No, it’s not just you, whoever posted about it being truly ugh when Jason holds the chin of whoever he’s kissing, I couldn’t agree more. I first noticed that last season with DeAnna and it was a real turnoff. I wanted him eliminated purely on that basis. It is truly yucky to me too when he does that!
2) I don’t find it that strange that Mel’s rents and bro don’t want to be on this program. I might choose the same thing if it was my sister/daughter. I find the show a wee bit rehearsed (some of the camera angles reveal that the timeline is faked (when Chris enters the house where Jason’s staying and the camera is right there behind him Jason when a second ago the camera was apparently behind Chris as he came up to the door and filmed Jason coming to the door with no camera behind him)) and tacky too. It feels somewhat exploitive and I don’t know that I’d want to be a part of it, frankly.
3) It’s kind of gross the way that Jason was kissing all the women in front of the others. That whole date on the soap opera set was revolting and painful to watch, it was so insensitive and skeezy. It reminded me of the saying : ” Georgie, Porgie, Puddin and Pie, kissed the girls and made them cry”. Jason kissed all the women and had love scenes brazenly while the others were forced to stand there and watch, over and over and over again. How truly cruel it was! It was very disturbing as is his macking down with so many women so quickly and so much. Is it just me or does anyone else find that truly skeezy and gross. And the sleeping with three women.
4) What is the thing with Molly becoming his #1 choice after the family date. I thought (after Nay of course) her family was the least appealing (and that’s without even meeting Mel’s family). They were cold and soooo unfun. All her dad could say by way of what he wanted from her was not to cry if she was rejected and got her heart broken? Yikes, that’s all her dad cares about? No wonder Molly’s cold, and shallow. That pathetic list of questions, what’s your favorite flavor of ice cream. And Jason just seems so shallow too when he’s around her. I am just not getting Molly and her family’s appeal and hold on Jason. He seemed to think they were the greatest. How truly sad. I’m thinking because he’s Jewish and they are clearly the ultra ultra WASPs that he somehow wants some kind of pathetic acceptance into a certain echelon of society. He clearly seems to want very much to be accepted by these people. It’s very, very sad.
5) Jillian is too much for Jason. He’s a slightly boring guy without too much personality (let’s face it when he asked her what she liked about him all she could come up with was I like how you listen, I feel etc. there just wasn’t much to say there). He has a very staid life and lifestyle. She is a lot of personality and fiery and she needs someone who can match her. He simply can’t; he’s outmatched by her. Mel is much simpler and easy and will fit into Jason’s life. Of course they’re both really too good for him and he is lucky to have Mel be on this show and fall in love with him based on the contrived setup of the show. He would be very very lucky to end up with Mel (which I’m guessing is what’s going to happen).
6) Is anyone truly disturbed by the fact that ABC changed the order of the rose giveout to make it look like Jillian was #2 and Mel #3? I am. They’re intentionally messing with our minds and it’s definitely disturbing as this time they were caught. How many times have they done this in other ways, I’m now forced to wonder.
7) Does anyone know if Jo Ann, Naomi’s mother is Jewish? I was getting the feeling that Naomi and her parents were Jewish. Possibly, Hector is a born again Christian. I don’t know why but I’ve just got that feeling.
RealitySteve.com has spilled all – at least according to him. It is quite interesting. I’m not giving away any spoilers here – but if you are interested – check it out.
(BTW – I only read his site because someone on a previous Lincee posted mentioned it and I was curious. I am, and will remain, a loyal Lincee fan & reader.)
http://realitysteve.com/
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