Jul
07
Posted by Lincee

Soy Grande

There were two things last night that I wanted to happen:

1. I prayed to the good Lord that Jillian would take the forgo card from the date with “He Who Must Not Be Named” and tear it up into tiny little pieces.

2. I wanted Kiptynite to say, “My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die!” and have a sword fight with Jillian. That would have been way better than the flamenco dancing.

A girl can only dream.

SIMPLE DISCLAIMER
The following information you are about to read is of personal opinion. You probably aren’t even reading this because the simple disclaimer has been a part of my recap since the days I emailed this puppy to just a few of my closer friends. HA! Fooled you. You’ve skipped this amusing mockery and will not know what in the world your friends are talking about when they say, “Did you like the new disclaimer Lincee did?” However, if you or someone on your Facebook page happens to personally know, sort of know, know the brother/cousin of, thought you saw in the grocery store buying leftover Easter candy or have a Jazzercise instructor that looks exactly like one of the Bachelors on the show…none of this is personal and I’m sure they are all lovely people.

There were several things that were off about last night’s episode.

Let’s start with the gut-wrenching absence of Our Host Chris Harrison. The poor dude got left out in the cold and didn’t get to score precious miles on the non-stop flight to Spain. That’s cold ABC. Hare is the backbone of this show. Don’t deny your audience the inevitable zingers that we will receive at any given moment. He’s the REAL reason we all watch this train wreck.

Second, I don’t think I’ve tucked a shirt into my pants in about 10 years. Therefore, I’m not up on the latest belting trends. Is it “the thing” to slide the buckle, which is traditionally poised directly below the belly button, off to the left of center? I found this distracting as Jillian meandered around Madrid looking forlorn and waifish.

And finally, can we please, PLEASE make the transition to a one-hour episode? Do we really need 30 minutes of Jillian recapping the remaining Bachelors? We’ve been there every step of the way with our beloved Polly Pocket. We know these guys better than they know themselves. What could she possibly reveal that is new information?

Kiptynite
“My heart and jaw dropped to the floor when I saw him for the first time. We had instant chemistry. However, he might be too perfect. I know I dumped Jake for that same reason, but have you seen Kip’s nine pack? It’s amazing!”

Huh. I bet the nine pack is a site to behold. Let me give you a little tip. Abs generally come in multiples of two.

Reid
“Reid and I are moving very, very slowly and we are way different. He’s nothing like what I picture myself with in my head. That guy looks a lot like Ed with Kip’s nine pack. But Reid makes me laugh. What does that mean?”

Marry him. Marry him NOW.

Ed
“Ed dumped me for his career, but he is back. I’m not sure how I feel about that, but I do know that I need to be a priority. He needs to pick me up, twirl me around and make out with me at every possible moment. There’s just something about him that is intriguing and I can’t put my finger on it.”

He’s the reincarnate of Greg Brady. Mystery solved.

Cheese Ass
“He is soooo my type. He’s the gorgeous, bad boy country guy that I want to be with. He is far from perfect, but there’s something there that assures me that he cares.”

[crickets chirping]

Jillian’s first date is with Kiptynite. She babbles on about how wonderful he is and we are reminded that Jilly is straight up intimidated and insecure when it comes to the wonder that is Kip. She adjusted her belt buckle and positions herself at the top of some stairs. Kip sees her and they race to the middle. He pulls her in his arms and she wraps her legs around him like she did back in the Jason days.

They walk hand-in-hand (Jillian closes her eyes and pretends Kip is her real boyfriend) and start talking about how they haven’t seen each other since the home town date.

Jillian: “Your family is so cool. And your Mom is a doll.”
Lincee: Not quite the word I would choose. Well played Jill.
Kip: “They loved you.”

Jillian: “Really? That’s a relief. Did you get a chance to talk about me after I left? What did your sister say? You know she mentioned babies…”
Kip: “She asked me if I would propose at the end of the show.”

Jillian holds her breath and makes sure not to make any sudden movements.

Kip: “I think a proposal seems far off. It’s something I want to do the right way once and not rush. You understand, right Jilly?”
Jillian: “It would be wicked cool to get a proposal at the end of this show. I would sooo swing my hand in Jason’s face the next time I saw him at a D-List celebrity event. Don’t you think a big part of this is a leap of faith?”

Kip steps back from Jillian and slowly lifts the front of his t-shirt. Four of the nine abs peek out and she is instantly hypnotized.

Jillian: “I want a proposal, but let’s be realistic. Wanna go flamenco dancing?”

Seriously. Jillian and Kiptynite are flamenco dancing with Maria and Ricardo. This just proves that the two of them have nothing to say to each other and the ABC producer has to scramble around Madrid to find random things for them to do. And to top it off, they costume them in traditional flamenco attire!

Kip’s pants were tight. And I don’t mean tight, tight. I mean TIGHT. I’d be willing to bet that the ABC intern poured half a bottle of baby oil down Kip’s pants so he could slither inside. I’m guessing that scissors were used to release his appendages from said pants.

They dance. It was lame. I felt embarrassed for them.

Luckily, the scene quickly changed to later that night. Jillian, wearing a school girl skirt from the Britney Spears “Hit Me Baby One More Time” video, squeals when she sees Kip and suggests that they take a scooter ride to dinner. This was the second time I was embarrassed for them, because not only was I afraid all of Madrid would see Jill’s who-ha, but those scooter helmets were not anywhere near attractive. I’m happy to report that they arrived to dinner in one piece.

Jillian: “I had fun today. Your pants were super tight.”
Kip: “I could barely get the button closed and the zipper…it was scary.”
Jillian: “Wow. You could have hurt the boys.”
Kip: “I know. I thought we might have to have a pre-mature kid conversation after today!”

It was funny watching the blood drain from Kip’s face as he uttered these words.

Jillian: “So…you want kids?”
Kip: “Yep. Hey look! Escargot! Let’s choke these puppies down?”

Jillian is distracted by the slippery little suckers and they laugh at each other forcing snails down their throats, chased by half a bottle of wine.

Jillian: “What’s one thing past girlfriends would want to change about you?”
Kip: “That I would have a twin brother. HEY OHHH!”

Jillian: “Huh. I know I only known you for three days, but I would make you tougher. You are too much of a softie. You remind me a lot of my Dad. And that bugs because my Mom wears the pants in the family. You are too generous and sweet and would never tell me I’m bad. And I like to be spanked, so what’s up with that?”
Kip: “If I have an opinion, you will know.”

Jillian: “Great. But what about the spanking part?”

All of a sudden, a waiter appears out of nowhere and presents the couple with the infamous forgo card date. Kip has no clue what it is and wants to know if Harrison consulted with Jillian before assuming that she was an overnight kind of girl.

Jillian: “Do you want to go to the forgo room?”
Kip: “Sounds great to me. I’ll let you count my abs.”

Jillian: “Syke! I just wanted to make sure you liked me enough to say yes. But I don’t want to spend an entire night with someone who doesn’t want to propose. I would like to cuddle!”

Oh that’s every man’s dream! Kip is quick to get Jillian horizontal on the big fluffy forgo bed and make out. Unfortunately, since Jillian technically withdrew the forgo offer, the ABC intern is sent in with the daunting task of tapping Kip on the shoulder to let him know that it’s past midnight and he has to go to his non-forgo room.

Jillian follows him to the door and they kiss again. She says that she wants him to not be able to live without her. He says that things are getting warmer. I blush because that sounded dirty.

The next day, Reid surprises Jillian with a great big “Hola mi amore!” He tells her she is “muy bonita” and then giggles in her ear, admitting that that is all the Spanish he knows.

Jillian hands Reid a picnic basket and they head to the market to by all the fixings for a lunch in the park. Unfortunately, their Spanish sucks. Jillian thinks the guy is saying that the bread is brown when he actually means small. Then he tries to hand them raw meat on several occasions, but Reid finally pulled it together with the help of limited vocabulary words and some pretty impressive universal sign language. At the checkout counter, we experience Reid at his finest:

Reid: “Como estas?”
Butcher: “Muy bien. How are you?”
Reid: “Soy grande. That means very good, right?”
Butcher: “That mean BIG.”
Reid: “You mean I’ve been telling people I’m big all day?”
Butcher: “Si.”
Reid: “Fabulous.”

Jillian tells the camera that she and Reid are good travelers.

Jillian: “I can see me and Reid going to different countries together. We would frustrate ourselves, but there would be multiple times a day that I would want to pee myself from laughing.”

MARRY THIS GUY YOU FOOL!

She then reminds us…again…that he is not who she pictured herself with, but she feels like they would make a good team. Reid starts to open up a little and tells Jillian that he’s not good at conversations like this.

Reid: “Every time we hang out, it gets better. You know it takes me a while to open up and tell someone how I’m feeling.”

Jillian is unable to contain herself.

Jillian: “HOW DO YOU FEEL REID?”

Reid gives a little smile and turns on the aw shucks charm.

Reid: “I’m attracted to you. We are similar in personalities. If this continues to go in the direction I think it’s going, that will be a good thing.”

Later that night, Jillian (of course) runs up to Reid and squeals and throws her arms around his shoulders. They go to have dinner on a veranda.

Jillian: “Did you have fun today?”
Reid: “I did.”

Jillian: “So, uhm, you generalize…which is awesome by the way, but there are times when I want to say WHAT DO YOU MEAN REID? So I’m going to light a fire under your butt and ask you what you mean.”
Reid: “I’m so confused. What do I mean about what?”

Jillian: “Like, how are you feeling?”
Reid: “Well…you are a good person and friendly. You are smart, you make me laugh and you are easy to talk to. You sure smell good and the chemistry is there and it’s natural and effortless…why did you just roll your eyes?”

Jillian: “You had me at smell good. Hey! What’s this?”

A nameless Spaniard delivers the forgo card and Jillian hands it to Reid. He questions if it will be in Spanish and I fall head over heels for this dude.

Team Reid people. Jump on BOARD!

He reads the card and tells Jillian that he is leaving the forgoing up to her because it’s the gentlemanly thing to do. Then she kisses him for a good 30 seconds. Reid wonders if this is a green light.

But Jillian puts the kibosh on that fantasy and tells him just kidding. Reid laments the fact that these forgo cards will be handed out on all the dates and mentions that this bugs him.

Jillian: “Why does that bug you?”
Reid: “What do you mean?”
Jillian: “I want you to elaborate.”
Reid: “With details? Are you crazy?”
Jillian: “What is it that bugs you about it?”
Reid: “Oh, I don’t know…someone else kissing you?”

Sounds like someone is fishing for another compliment and likes her boys to be jealous.

We next find Jillian on Reid’s back…piggy style.

Reid: “Did you know you can pay someone to carry you like this in Philly?”
Jillian: “Really?”
Reid: “Nope.”

Jillian admits Reid has her heart and that she might be falling in love.

Me too girl. Me too.

Next up is Ed. Jillian admits that she missed out on a lot of key things with Ed. She didn’t get to meet his family. He broke her heart. But the most important thing is to fit in all the extra kisses that she was denied in these two weeks.

The second most important thing is to find some new shorts because for some reason, hers were wet.

They decide to start over in a carriage ride. Jillian is insistent on putting her legs over his lap. He talks about how he missed her every day and how he only thought of her when he was kicking butt and taking names at Microsoft. He tells her that he is bummed she didn’t get to meet his family and sing karaoke with them.

Actually, I’m sad I didn’t get to see that either.

In the next scene, the viewer experiences a voiceover from Jillian. As she talks about how she wants to be irresponsible with Ed and just make out all over Spain, the ABC producers edit the piece to show the pair in a fountain (hence the wet shorts) making out with full on butt grabbing. I’m assuming this is not normal to have Americans traipsing around in this particular fountain, because several spectators looked both annoyed and in shock. After 30 minutes of these shenanigans, the ABC intern is asked to forgo his own socks and shoes and get the pair out of the fancy old fountain and into their rooms to get ready for dinner.

At dinner, Ed asks Jillian about living outside of Vancouver. Jillian tries not to squeal and buys some time by taking a sip of wine. She answers calmly:

Jillian: “I’m not opposed to moving.”
Ed: “Chicago wouldn’t be perfect. But we could grow together. You are exactly what I’m looking for. I see us being together for a long, long time. Jillian? Are you okay?”

Jillian snaps out of her wedding daydream and asks Ed if he thinks she would like Chicago.

Ed: “It’s all about eating. And I would love to take you to a Cubs game.”
Jillian: “I’m not sure about the game, but hot dogs, beer and people…I’m in!”

I soldier from the Spanish Army brings the forgo card on a silver platter. Ed suggests Jill read the note. She does so…in baby talk.

Uh oh. She’s going to forgo her no forgo plan.

Ed: “I would love to spend the night with you.”
Lincee: Doh!
Jillian: “That’s great, but I’m super protective with my feelings with you. I worry about getting hurt.”

She pouts out her lip and waits for him to respond.

Ed: “You can interpret this in many ways. For me, it’s getting more time with you. I missed out a lot and it is bothering me.”
Lincee: Well played Ed. You just scored a forgo card.

Jillian takes the bait and they end up horizontal on the forgo bed. Just as Jillian begins another round of “questions that end in a way that compliments me,” Ed kisses her hand and she glazes over.

Jillian: “We are sleeping in our clothes.”
Ed: “You are my favorite part about Spain.”

Wow. Good line.

And now it’s time for the Dillweed. Part of me wants to skip this entire section because I don’t feel like giving him the time of day. But I will admit that he provided the most entertainment of the night. Up until this point, I was bored out of my mind!

He tells the camera that he doesn’t know the music scene “here” but he was number one in Chihuahua, Mexico. Then he says that he feels home around Spanish people.

Hi Cheese Ass! It’s Lincee. Spain is a country in Europe. Do you remember getting on the plane and handing the nice man your passport and getting your first stamp ever? That’s right! You are in Spain. Not Mexico. They are not the same. Remember how you get pissed off when people think you are from Georgia because of your accent? It’s the same thing.

He Who Must Not Be Named approaches Jillian in the streets of Barcelona. They don’t hug. First red flag. How many times has Chach been all over Jilly in episodes past? Every time! They hop on a couple of bikes and pedal over to a gazebo where they stop for lunch.

Jillian is going above and beyond to let him know that she is excited to see him. He often responds with very monotone answers.

Jillian: “I am happy to be spending time with you!”
HWMNBN: “I miss hanging out. Honestly Jill, I think you are perfect.”

Jillian tells the camera that for someone who thinks she is so perfect, he certainly did sit as far away from her as possible. She also admits that she is analyzing every little detail he says. She decides to put him to the test.

Jillian: “Would you move to Vancouver? Hypothetically of course…”
HWMNBN: “That would be crazy.”
Jillian: “Would you at least meet in the middle somewhere?”
HWMNBN: “Wow…that bird only has one leg.”

Then he spills his beer so they can leave.

Still a little unsure why all these red flags are waving in her face, Jillian decides to have dinner with the Dillweed. She shows up in a beautiful red dress. He wears the same western shirt from three days ago and a pair of holey jeans.

Jillian wonders why their affection is not stronger and why he is so distant.
Cheese Ass wonders if he can catch the first flight out of town in time to make his appearance at the Dixie Chicken in College Station later that week.

Jillian decides to bring up the girlfriend issue again.

Jillian: “You are the guy I’m attracted to. But I can’t ignore the red flags. I don’t care what people say, but I want to be educated about my answers and defend myself when confronted.”
HWMNBN: “I don’t have a girlfriend.”

Jillian: “But you do have a career that can benefit from this.”
HWMNBN: “If I came here to sell records, my mission would already be accomplished. I’ve already played songs and you heard my band. Any publicity is good publicity.”

Kick him to the CURB girl. What in the world!

Jillian: “If you were crazy about me, you would have kissed me. You asked me to trust you and I did. I’m thinking you might not be telling the truth cowboy.”
HWMNBN: “I’m thinking about you and the other guys.”

Give me a break.

Jillian: “If you feel different about me, I need to know that.”
HWMNBN: “I’m not here to hurt you. I here to be true to myself. Numero uno is most important.”

Jillian gets up from the table, throws her glass of wine in his face and storms off into the…

Wait. No, no…I’m mistaken. She goes in for another kick to the gut. Let’s listen!

Jillian: “I think this Laurel person is important to you.”
HWMNBN: “I spent six years with her. She’s one of my best friends.”
Jillian: “Why would Jake give me a specific name?”
HWMNBN: “Because I told him about her. I said she was my girlfriend. I mean…oops…ex-girlfriend. My bad.”

Annnnnd she kicks him to the…wait. Forgo card. This should be good.

Cheese Ass reads the forgo card. Why she let him read it is beyond me, but she did. He casually suggests they spend the night together. Jillian finally sees reason and tells him that she thinks it’s best if they go their separate ways tonight. The cab door has barely shut before Chach is on his cell phone texting his manager to prepare for a media blitz upon his return the next day. Their evil plan WORKED!

Jillian: “Tonight, I had a lot of questions answered and it became very clear that he has something to hide.”

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Rose Ceremony
Even though Hare was absent from the rose ceremony, his voiceover preparing us for the event was too cute when he said it was going to be dramatic…as if we didn’t know the outcome.

Three of our four Bachelors are looking quite spiffy in nice suits. They spot Jillian approaching and begin to fidget.

Kip: “She looks nervous.”
Reid: “She can’t be. This is a cake walk.”
HWMNBN: “If it’s me, just know that I’ll be home having lots of sex.”

Classy.

Jillian arrives in a trendy feather duster outfit and walks herself up to the Spanish podium of doom. She smiles and tells the Bachelors that she has never been MORE SURE of anything in her entire life.

Naturally, roses go to Ed, Reid and Kiptynite.

Because Our Host wasn’t there to tell Cheese Ass to say his goodbyes, there was a little bit of unnecessary lingering before Jillian offered to walk Chach out to the limo.

HWMNBN: “I am the first guy to make it to top four with a girlfriend. My acting days are over. I’ve done everything I needed to do. I have my dog, my band and radio tour. It’s about to go down. I’m in Spain and they will know my name. I’m cutting the chains. Hey…that’s sounds like a hit. Does anyone have a pen?”

I beg of each and every one of you to not purchase a CD, take a photo or attend any event that has anything to do with Dillweed and his merry band of Chaches. That is all I will say on the matter.

Next week…Hawaii! And let the record show that I KNEW something was up with the lack of forgoing on the forgo dates. I figured there would be another opportunity for Jillian to forgo. Here’s hoping that the E.D. tease was just a tease.

All about the shame, not the fame,

Lincee

  1. amanda Said,

    Lincee get out of my brain!!!!

  2. RM1SW Said,

    FINALLY! It was well worth the wait. Glad that sleezy is gone.

  3. Ruthie Said,

    GREAT recap, once again. HWMNBN is finally gone and I hope he’s not on the loser-bachelor show. Can I just vent a bit here – my pet peeve this season is Jilly’s grammar! Lord someone hand this girl a seventh grade English textbook! “Him and I”, “it went good”… Then again, it kind of goes with the squeal-n-swirl, Britney-skirt, side-pony personna. Maybe it’s just me.

  4. jt Said,

    Lincee…no comment about the pot of neck bones? :(

  5. TAGNJ Said,

    All the way with Team Reid. I’ve loved him from the beginning! He is a riot and seems real. Though the other guys are pretty cool, too.

    But Reid, Jillain, Reid is who you should pick!

    Great recap! SOOO glad she finally got rid of that ass. I think the producers gave him enough rope to hang himself with. He just came across as an ignorant jerk.

  6. love it! Said,

    Thank you Lincee for your weekly blog…love it!! Andrea thank you for letting me know about it. Dinner is burning on the stove, my husband is hungry, but I had to check if the recap was up…and it was. Now I can watch it taped and pretend that I am as creative as you Lincee.

    Jillian is way nicer than I am. I would have smacked that cheese ass.

  7. Nikki Said,

    At the rose ceremony, there was a wet spot right at Wes’ feet. It looked like he peed his pants and it ran down his leg. Anyone notice? He must have been super excited for his night out on the town.

    For the rest of the season, I will now think of Jillian as a Polly Pocket. Thank you very much.

    I’m sure that no self-respecting Aggie would allow Wes to perform at the Dixie Chicken. Gig ‘em.

  8. Jenny Said,

    You’ve got me laughing out loud..again! I can’t believe what HWMNBN called Reid in the limo..did anyone catch that?? Reid is pure gold so that made me upset. I’m on the fence of who I like more between Ed and Reid but she can’t go wrong with either…Hawaii here we come.

  9. Lacia C Said,

    BEST RECAP EVER, LINCEE!!! LOL I was laughing so hard esp at these lines:

    “Kip’s pants were tight. And I don’t mean tight, tight. I mean TIGHT. I’d be willing to bet that the ABC intern poured half a bottle of baby oil down Kip’s pants so he could slither inside. I’m guessing that scissors were used to release his appendages from said pants.”

    and

    “Luckily, the scene quickly changed to later that night. Jillian, wearing a school girl skirt from the Britney Spears “Hit Me Baby One More Time” video, squeals when she sees Kip and suggests that they take a scooter ride to dinner.”

    Hilarious!! hehehe this was so worth the wait!!

  10. Alicia Said,

    Lincee – Loved the Pretty Woman reference….”slippery little suckers!!”

    I’m on Team Reid too….which means – she will never choose him!

  11. beens Said,

    I am definately on board w/ team Reid. You don’t have to ask me twice. He had me when he asked if the forgo card was in spanish too no wait when he asked if the picnic basket was a man-bag. What’s up w/ her fishing for compliments? that forgo card game of “you tell me you want to stay w/ me so I can turn you down” was lame. I can’t believe she didn’t kick you know who to the curb @ the gazebo.

  12. All about the shame Said,

    #4–I know!–I couldn’t clearly hear what Wes said about the neckbones last night, and had no way of replaying it. I actually really thought Wes said something totally racist with that remark, and I fell from the couch to the carpet with shock and thought Quanell X would be all over the news talking about it in the morning. The blog posts really cleared up a lot for me today.

    The whole neckbone thing, though–I’ve lived in Texas my whole life and have some hick relatives who have actually pulled out their own teeth with pliars, and I have NEVER heard the neckbone expression. Que?

    Please don’t tell me that he is going to be anywhere near the Dixie Chicken for real (I just took my Aggie ring off in shame). I hope the rattlesnakes escape and bite him in the neckbone.

  13. Ashley Said,

    I can’t help but notice that after reading Jillian’s lame blog with her comments and some comments on the show…that she is reading Lincee’s blog….anyone with me here? Her grammar is GOD AWFUL…bless her heart, right? I am over her. She just bores me. Please ABC don’t pick the third string next season…also noticed that she had the same outfit on but different colors with two of them. I think she is determined to get engaged regardless. (helloooo DEEYAWN-AH) I think it is down to Reid and Ed. I think she will go for one who won’t propose and the other or even a third will come back and propose…just a thought and probably too much time on my hands.

    I can also see Cheese Ass not coming to the MTA….he will claim he has some gig…..

    And I agree with Lincee…WHERE WAS HARRISON!!?!

  14. Ashley Said,

    Oh and one more thing… I am over her fishing for compliments only when she gets one – she responds with a QUESTION!!!? You look really good….REALLY? WHO DOES THAT!?!!!? Just take the damn compliment!

  15. kit Said,

    i just have two things to say. one is a quote from chandler bing, the other from the movie never been kissed.

    “ding dong, the psycho’s gone!!”

    “like, 5 chickens had to die just so she could look that stupid!”

  16. Jess Said,

    “Kip steps back from Jillian and slowly lifts the front of his t-shirt. Four of the nine abs peek out and she is instantly hypnotized.”

    OMG!!! I had to stop reading for a minute because I was laughing too hard at this line! Too freakin funny!!

  17. Judi Said,

    Did anybody else react to Jillian repeatedly saying “him and me”? Last night it was like fingernails on acheese grater. But I did see the Jill I remember from last seaon…much more respectable.

  18. Judi Said,

    Jenny #8 What did he say about Reid…I missed it.

  19. irishcurls Said,

    ok i just want to say i spent half my workday checking to see if this was up yet because i knew it would be good. love it, love you, love reid. and im PROUD of jill for forgoing the forgoing. classy. go team reid.

  20. Carrie Said,

    TEAM REID!!!!!

  21. Suze Said,

    Ruthie I am SO with you: english degree here. Jillian’s grammar drives me freaking insane. And did anyone else hear from the voices that it seemed like Kip and Reid in the end? I just didn’t hear Ed’s voice (I didn’t think.)

  22. lvdmusician Said,

    Got hooked on this show ’cause of my friend Wendy. She also turned me on to this website. I will forever watch the Bach as long as I can read Lincee’s blog. Absolutely hysterical.

    My fave of the week was “Hi Cheese Ass! It’s Lincee. Spain is a country in Europe. Do you remember getting on the plane and handing the nice man your passport and getting your first stamp ever? That’s right! You are in Spain. Not Mexico. They are not the same. Remember how you get pissed off when people think you are from Georgia because of your accent? It’s the same thing.

    Obviously CheeseAss has geography issues just like Jilly has grammatical ones.

  23. Suze Said,

    And, I forgot, the eating thing. Though I am glad that Jillian is one of the few gals in Bach history to actually EAT, the camera always seems to catch her mouth-full in an awkward way. Speaking of which, loved old Wes picking his teeth last night while they spoke. He is so classy like that.

    Team Reid…though whoever marries him will have quite a set of interesting neuroses with which to wrestle. Probably worth it though…he’s charming.

  24. Amanda Said,

    And don’t forget the look on Reid’s face when HWMNBN said he was going home to have lots of sex….what a freakin’ tool.

    Oh and his website was ‘down for construction’ today.

  25. Rena Said,

    #15 Well said!
    Reid had me when he put on those darn glasses. He’s great!

    And though Jill is clearly in love with Kyp’s nine pack, he is just not strong enough for her. Who could ever replace his mom anyway?

    I loved Ed from the beginning. But, well, Reid. And Ed left. And Reid. He’s just not Reid.

    So long, cheese ass! You’re so right! Everybody knows your name! Cheese ass!

  26. Amanda Said,

    and lastly…having a hit song in Chihuahua, Mexico doesn’t make you awesome or famours….it makes you a loser.

  27. Abby Said,

    Sign me up for team Reid! I melt every time he puts on those glasses.
    Did anyone else notice that Jill’s chair at dinner with Kip said Bruce Springteen (not Springsteen)?
    I think the E.D. references from previous weeks are actually about Ed-and the lack of chemistry between him and Jill in Hawaii. It all seems a little forced between those two to me.
    I can not wait for MTA and I really hope Wes is there so OHCH can rip him a new one with his witty one liners!

  28. Jenn Said,

    I see a lot of questions about Wes’ parting speech. Here they are-

    She shot me down, I’m going down in flames.

    The first guy ever on the Bachelorette to make it top 4 with a girlfriend.

    You know, I think it’s going to take me a long time to be able to [s**t-eating grin] – you know – get back on my feet. [bigger s**t-eating grin]

    Yeah, my acting days are over. I’ve definitely gone as far as I could possibly go with Jillian. I mean, I’ve already done everything I needed to do. So this is just kind of another bump in the road. I’m going back home, got my dog waiting, and my band. We’re pushing a brand-new single right now, and I got a big radio tour that I gotta do ASAP.

    And let me tell you what – tonight, I’m in Spain, and it’s about to go DOWN. I’m going out. I’m cutting off the chains, click-click-click-click-click. I’m a free man.

    How you gonna lose to REID? You gotta be kiddin’ me. I was born at night, but not last night. That fool is a retard.

    And ED! Them boys couldn’t get so much as a nibble back in Texas.

    [To driver] What the f— are we doing, driving around in circles? M-f-in move!

    Oh, man, it is on like a pot of neck bones.

    I’m in Spain, everybody’s gonna know my name.

  29. All about the shame Said,

    Good job, Jenn (#28), and thanks from those of us who don’t have DVR. I have a question for you: Did Wes kinda spill his drink (which looked like a beer in a plastic cup) when the limo hit a bump? That would make two times he party-fouled. The other time was in the pavilion.

    I’m almost inclined to think Wes is on something stronger than the brewskie. He’s just so dazed-and-confused a’ la David Wooderson (Matthew McConaughey in the movie). “Keep Austin Weird” and all…

  30. Brandy Said,

    Lincee – you totally cracked me up calling ‘you know who’, He Who Must Not Be Named! Love it!!

    My husband (who claims to totally hate our beloved Bachelor/Bachelorette show) watched some with me last night. Of course, every time my husband watches, he gets all into it and I have to pause to recap him on what is going on and then tell him to shut up and stop asking me so many questions because he “hates” this show. :) Anyway, my husband could not believe the jerkiness of HWMNBN. Today he said to me that he hopes that dude never sells a CD. I hope so too!

    Can’t wait for MTA. I heard that HWMNBN is thinking about not coming. That will suck because I would LOVE to see OHCH and the other dudes take a few shots at him.

    I love Reid too. However, I am wondering if the E.D. teaser we saw is about him. That would be such a bummer if E.D. is Reid’s downfall. How ironic would that be if Reid has E.D. and loses Jill to “Ed” because of it? :)

  31. BA Said,

    I TOTALLY noticed the belt thing too! AND I do occasionally wear belts and have never noticed the side thing before. It was really bugging me!

    GO REID. I have a super-big crush on him. I think it may be a little much. I think my husband can tell…

  32. Stephanie Said,

    HWMNBN = Hilarious. I was laughing out loud and my husband had to ask me what was going on. Love your recaps girl!!! Keeping it real in H-town.

  33. Julie in Toronto Said,

    Reid’s gonna ‘win’ – the long shot who takes it. He and Jillian seem to have the best chemistry. Did anyone notice that when Jillian called Kyptonite at the Rose Ceremony that he did not smile, even when they hugged – he looked down. He looked quite concerned and I couldn’t help but think that he’s having serious doubts. I think Jillian made a mistake eliminating Jake and David – they were adorable!

    I’m watching in Canada and I’m wondering if anyone else remembers how in the preview two weeks ago they referred to one of the batchelors having ‘erectile difficulties’ while on an intimate date! But since then, there has been no mention of this. What’s going on?

  34. belle Said,

    ha, love the Harry Potter reference of HWMNBN! and our Polly Pocket ;) very clever Lincee!

  35. BA Said,

    Oh, and doesn’t Wes have to be on MTA? Isn’t it in his contract? I can’t imagine he will get out of it, especially considering everything that has gone down.

  36. Michelle Said,

    team reid from day one. or should i say, 2nd half of 1st RC.

    HWMNBN … issues. major issues. i do agree that it’s just sad.

    great recap lincee. p.s. i went to an Irish pub last week that had a big picture of a unicorn on the door and thought of you. ha.

  37. bcg Said,

    I just found this yesterday and it is making my life! I have been laughing out loud. You say exactly what I am thinking!

  38. ColoradoAggie Said,

    #7 – I second that about the Chicken! I don’t think he would get two feet in the door! Gig ‘em!!

    TEAM REID ALL THE WAY!!!!

  39. belle Said,

    and I love clever so I love Reid w/his adorable glasses (wear them ALL the time pls), witty banter(they give piggy back rides in Philly, really?, nope.), and charming smile(complete w/cute crinkles around eyes)!

  40. Aunt B Said,

    HWMNBN I’m sure thinks he’s NUMERO UNO…..it’s because all self-respecting ladies in Texas are givin’ him that famous “You’re #1″ hand signal with the middle finger of their well-manicured hand…

    The Chicken will NEVER be a place HWMNBN wants to visit…..there are just too many Aggies (and that would be just the lady Aggies) that would use him to redefine the meaning of “ridden hard and hung up wet”…..all future #1 songs by HWMNBN would be sung in a falsetto soprano voice….I’m sure Chihuahuan women everywhere will adore that sound.

  41. TAGNJ Said,

    Thanks, Jenn, for the exact recap of what he said in the car. I only got bits and pieces of it.
    It was worse than I thought! Which makes it so much better! :)

    Seriously, how could this guy think he has anything (anything at all!) over Reid, Ed, or Kiptyn? I don’t know one woman (oh, well, you know, maybe Laurel and some girls from Chihuahua but other than that…) who would choose Wes over any of the other guys.

    I wonder if Chihuahua, Mexico, knows how Wes is slandering their good name.

    Did anyone think Wes was cute? Besides that he is an a**, I didn’t think he was remotely attractive. Shiny-faced, but not attractive.

  42. Topher Said,

    I am so buying the CD. I HAVE to hear that song again.

  43. belle Said,

    #41 NO I did not think HWMNBN was cute at all; way big forehead, he also looks way older than the age they posted, and he doesn’t annunciate his freakin’ words which makes him sound like a total dumb a$$! I know that doesn’t have anything to do w/his looks but it freakin’ got on my nerves!

  44. Sheree Said,

    #23 – Suze: When he picked his teeth like that, I almost died! I’m sorry to say, I had a boyfriend like that once–always doing something cringe-worthy. Blech.

    Still wondering what kind of bone Jillian was gnawing at dinner after the escargots–it was very distracting during a serious moment on her date!

  45. Really? Said,

    Just have to say that I am tickled to death to see HWMNBN “go down in flames”. What an ass. That is one CD I will NOT be purchasing. I do hope he attends the MTA so we can see OHCH put him in the hot seat. Also…from a Texas Girl – I would choose Reid, Ed or Kip over HWMNBN ANY day! I think it will be Ed and Reid for the final two. I really like Ed but I have to admit Reid totally won me over last night. I liked him before but last night fell in love. He is A-dorable! I will be happy if she chooses either tho. I wonder if the E.D. situation will happen next week in Hawaii? I hope it’s Kip and not Reid or Ed!!!

    Lincee…great recap! You crack me up and I always look forward to Tuesdays to read your blog. You did not disappoint today!

  46. ZagAg Said,

    This blog is the only reason I am still watching this season! I don’t watch on Monday’s anymore…just watch online on Tuesdays…fast forward thru most of it…and then go straight to your blog! Thanks for the laughs. :)

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  48. Christy Said,

    You know, in previous weeks I noticed a whole lot of us old married ladies crushing on Reid (I’d happily put myself at the top of that list). I’ve analyzed this and I think, in addition to the obvious adorableness, it’s because we all know from experience how important it is to be with someone who makes you laugh and lets you be yourself. I’d choose that any day of the week over someone who keeps me wondering if I’m good enough like Kiptyn, or keeps me guessing like Ed. And I like both of those guys a lot, but last night Jillian kept saying how she’s totally comfortable being completely herself around Reid. Girl, if that is true, snatch him up and don’t let go! When you’re crying irrationally while trying to figure out how to nurse a new baby and sporting stretch marks and the world’s largest mesh panties, you come to realize how important it is to be 100% comfortable with your mate.

  49. daisy Said,

    Wow. Thanks for posting what jacka#* wrote. I seriously missed him ripping on Reid and Ed. I don’t know if he doesn’t annunciate or if he is just always two sheets to the wind and slurring his words. My bet is he was wasted prior to the rose ceremony and getting in the limo. What a loser.

    I have to agree with Lincee on Reid, although I do like Ed too. So many things that he said had me giggling out loud – his Spanish, the man bag, when he asked if the forego card was in Spanish. He was seriously cracking me up.

    I thought Polly Pocket looked like a tour guide for a Jungle Safari in her date with Ed outfit.

  50. Jasmin Said,

    Oh my goodness, once again, you do an awesome job of recapping! :) I have yet to see this episode (will watch tonight online hopefully) but I was sosososo glad HWMNBN is gone! I never liked him from the get go; there was something slightly slimey about his demeanor. I was rooting for Jake– at least, thanks to him, HWMNBN is gone. I don’t really have a preference of who Jilly picks now– I highly doubt any of them will last in the long run.

  51. Lyndie Said,

    Okay, usually it’s Gerard Butler from 300 that is my guilty secret that makes me blush and have to hide my expression of worship from my husband. But Reid is now actually making me pause and have to do a double take. He might be stealing me a little bit from Gerard. Reid’s personality has now made him infinitely hotter and I already thought he was cute but now he’s making me blush. I had to kick my husband out of the room just so I could indulge in some shameless oooohing and aahhinng. I even like the glasses, who would of thought. I’m sorry Gerard but you must share me now.

  52. MyAwesomeness Said,

    I like Reid, but he can’t keep up with our adventurous Jill! He has not been shown zip lining or jumping off anything! Maybe too tame for our high energy bach’ette!

    Still don’t like Ed. Too little eye contact…

    I miss Michael. :(

    I am digging Kip. I liked the costume. Kinda reminded me of those old Wild West reruns….get over your low self esteem and pick the one you are happy snuggling with. Love the Kip-tynite!

  53. Becca Said,

    Great recap as always! I am on TEAM REID and have been for weeks, especially when he was on the train a few weeks ago getting advice from all of the wait staff and the train conductor about his date with Jill. However, I am usually wrong in these final three scenarios so I am not confident that she will pick him. Something is just not right about Kiptyn. Too perfect and also he does not have a lot to say. I do love Ed as well. He scored some major points last night. Seems like a very classy and smart guy. Plus is is a guaranteed proposal if that is what she is looking for. I would personally prefer unwedded, neurotic bliss with Reid, overcooking our meat and washing our vegetables together. But that’s just me. Can’t wait for the REAL forgo dates next week!

  54. jenstemp Said,

    Did anyone catch what Jillian said to d-bag at the very end of dinner? She mumbled something behind her hand and his response was “I thought I just did.” Then they got up and left.

    I LOVE Reid. I, too, was smiling during their entire date because they just seemed too cute together and seemed to be having a lot of fun.

  55. okcheather Said,

    Is grammer different in Canada?

  56. Christy Said,

    One other tiny observation: I rewound the DVR to watch Voldemort’s “If it’s me, know I’ll be back home, havin’ lots of sex” line again, and while I found Reid and Kiptyn’s disgusted, flabbergasted expressions refreshing, it bothered me that Ed laughed at him. I was an Ed fan from the beginning, but his lack of eye contact seems shifty and I thought that laughter may have been a little glimpse of character. Hope not, but I’m worried he’s not entirely honorable.

  57. Jenn Said,

    You’re welcome to everyone who enjoyed reading HWMNBN’s final words :-) .

    He really went out in a blaze of glory….lol. I missed him ripping on Ed and Reid at first too. I had to go back and listen a couple of times so I could get everything.

    #29- I didn’t see him spill his drink, but it looked like he came close several times.

    I’m sure he knew he was going home and showed up to the Rose Ceremony feeling no pain and then just continued on in the limo. He sure didn’t do himself any favors with that little tirade.

  58. kathy Said,

    There is only one word to describe HWMNBN’s monologue at the end: Boomhauer

  59. jersey girl genius Said,

    brilliant! loved every second of this recap. only thing missing… preview of He Who Shall Not Be Named’s new single … Love Comes Sleazy. *ba dum dum ching*

  60. Brooke Said,

    What if…. Ed is the one with E.D. in the upcoming episode? Oh, the irony.

  61. MaMa g Said,

    I so live for Monday evenings when I get to watch this with my friends… So on team Reid. So why exactly did everyone seem surprised with the “suite cards” ? Did they never watch the show before they were thrown in the “fish bowl?” And for the record… I think polly pocket played that well…ps..hated yoy know who from day one….

  62. lorraine Said,

    Oh Lyndie, I think you have a shared guilty pleasure, sadly my awesome hubby knows about this guilty please I have, and he just rolls his eyes at me.
    “Okay, usually it’s Gerard Butler from 300 that is my guilty secret that makes me blush and have to hide my expression of worship from my husband.”

  63. lorraine Said,

    Damn typo… I meant “sadly my awesome hubby knows about this guilty pleasure I have, and he just rolls his eyes at me.”

  64. Erin Said,

    He who must not be named is going to totally get chewed up and spit out during the ‘Men Tell All” show. I hope that they show all the stupid comments and make him look like even more of an arse. I agree with Lincee… don’t buy a cd… don’t go see him… infact boycott him. If his ‘talent’ couldn’t make his career… being a scum bag should not make it either!

  65. mpotter Said,

    so on board w/ reid. god, when he said she stole his heart in spanish!?!? he’s so cool.
    truly. did anyone else notice if she gave herself away when he was talking about the 3 others issue and she quietly said “just trust me”. ???

    glad the jerk is gone. wow. the smack he talked…. poor jilly when she watches this.
    she knows it, tho’ b/c she did some good backpedaling “i had to know for me. i’m proud of this. i always woulda wondered what if……. i feel sore-ry for him.”

    the whole dialogue about not knowing the music scene in barcelona, but my song was #1 in mexico- i feel so at home here…. just about killed me!
    numero uno, huh? he musta learned that phrase down in chihuaua, mexico.
    (they can keep him!)

  66. Kimberly Said,

    I loves me some Ed. But, that said, I think that Reid is soooo adorable. Also, does anyone remember that he also plays guitar? I think it was him playing with Cheese Ass about episode 4.

    I’m either Reid or Ed. Can’t go wrong with either one.

    Thanks, Lincee!

  67. lorraine Said,

    I forgot to add that I’d be willing to bet my job that Ed, Reid, and Kypton would get more action than HWSNBN any day. I watched his limo interview on line tonight, and was shocked by the unclassy remarks he made about the other guys.

  68. Lauren Said,

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…..Dillweed and his merry band of Chaches!!! LOVE IT, Lincee!! I was thinking that if he were playing somewhere around here in Austin, I’d go…if it were free admission and they didn’t catch me sneaking in with the bag of rotten tomatoes for hurling at the stage! :)

  69. Lacia C Said,

    #30 – Brandy – my husband does the same thing! He acts all disinterested about the show, then conveniently comes to watch it about 2 minutes into the recap at the beginning, then asks a ton of questions throughout (his voice is at the same volume the TV is at so I can’t hear what is being said on TV), comments about HWMNBN and what jerk he is, and then shuts up when the commercials come on!!! I constantly have to shush him up during the show and rewind the PVR to catch what I missed, it’s ridiculous!! Then he makes some Reid-speak wisecrack. LOL

  70. Lacia C Said,

    hahaha just re-reading this blog post again, so funny!!

    “Reid: “Every time we hang out, it gets better. You know it takes me a while to open up and tell someone how I’m feeling.”

    Jillian is unable to contain herself.

    Jillian: “HOW DO YOU FEEL REID?”
    (in caps).

    Love it!!

  71. GatorGirl Said,

    OMG I AM IN LOOOOVE WITH REID. He’s been my favv since VERY early on! I really liked Jesse too (such a hottie!) but Reid is just perfect husband material! GO TEAM REID! (even though I secretly hope she doesn’t pick him so I can move to Philly and snag him! hhahah)…a girl can dream! ;)

  72. PJane1031 Said,

    #56 — I dunno. . . . I sort of think that was an uncomfortable laugh from Ed, not a ‘Wow! You’re so funny!’ type of response. . . . I just don’t see any of the three remaining guys actually finding HWMNBN tasteless comment the least bit funny.

    “One other tiny observation: I rewound the DVR to watch Voldemort’s “If it’s me, know I’ll be back home, havin’ lots of sex” line again, and while I found Reid and Kiptyn’s disgusted, flabbergasted expressions refreshing, it bothered me that Ed laughed at him.”

  73. TexasBoy Said,

    “I was an Ed fan from the beginning, but his lack of eye contact seems shifty and I thought that laughter may have been a little glimpse of character. Hope not, but I’m worried he’s not entirely honorable.”

    If you read Reality Steve’s blog, it sounds like you’re on the right path about that….

  74. Alice in Dallas Said,

    as always love the blog Lincee…my favorite part (mostly because I’m a proud member of Team Reid)

    “Jillian: “You had me at smell good. Hey! What’s this?”

    A nameless Spaniard delivers the forgo card and Jillian hands it to Reid. He questions if it will be in Spanish and I fall head over heels for this dude.”

  75. Lorraine Said,

    PJane1031 I agree with you about Eds reaction to HWSNBN’s comment. It seemed like more of a wow, what a dirt bag, i can’t believe he just said that kind of a laugh.

  76. Steph Said,

    I LOVE Reid to pieces, best bachelor ever. The most real and genuine person, Gawd I hope this show doesn’t corrupt him…I don’t want to hear about him moving to CA and hanging out with all the other bachelor/ette rejects…just sayin’!

    Ed is TOTALLY lame and I don’t get the love for him! Too many rumors and bad recent photos. But!…to each his own. Jillian will probably choose him in the end.

    Why are some women so weird!? You WANT someone who you can be yourself around, we work ourselves crazy in our jobs and personal lives (friends/family)…don’t you want someone who gets you? You want an effortless relationship – because love doesn’t hurt! It’s supposed to feel natural!

  77. Emily Said,

    Wes was on the Bobby Bones Show (Austin morning radio) today and he claims that everything was edited and they changed everything he really said. After listening to the entire interview, I think he’s still full of crap. You can watch the full episode here: http://www.967kissfm.com/pages/bobbybones.html.

  78. Kaitlin Said,

    LOVE you, Lincee! I’m totally on the Reid train, by the way. He is SO adorable and funny. Jilly will be a fool to not choose him in the end. I sort of felt like this episode didn’t cast Ed in the greatest light. Last week, he was the sweet softie who couldn’t let Jill go, this week, he was the loser who should’ve known that being away from work was what he signed up for!

    Totally agree with your comments, Steph!

  79. Steph Said,

    Thanks Kaitlin, great minds think alike!

  80. Jane Said,

    Wes makes me want to puke! I just checked out his myspace page and women actually still like him after watching him on the show. What is wrong with some women??? It’s sickening!

  81. TEAM REID :) Said,

    First of all, I would like to commend Jillian on her decision to NOT forego. I bet ABC told her she couldn’t reject all of them so she had to pick at least one to accept, so she picked Ed and made it a point to say sleeping with clothes on. I always think it looks so trashy when they go into the rooms and the last thing you see is the door or window curtain closing. Hello, your mother and father are watching that show… even though Jill did give us a great peep show in the hot tub last season… maybe doesn’t care al that much.

    Secondly, doesn’t she know basic psychology?? Women tend to [subliminally] seek out men who are like their fathers… even the bad parts…. and vice versa for men… they tend to seek out women who are like their mothers. Jillian, you say your mom wears the pants and that your dad is a bit passive… well let’s take a look at Kipper’s mom… she is one crazy controlling over bearing b!t*h. Kip, along with any of the other men in his family have been under her ruling and have been taught to speak whe spoken to. When guys have mother’s that are nutso, they learn from a very young age that it is way easier to just let it go and “not care” than it is to fight back. I’m sorry, but there is no changing this. Besides, take it from someone who knows…. anyone who says you AREN’T marrying his family too…. is totally insane. You absolutely are, and you don’t want that crazy lady anywhere near you or your future Kipllian (as in Bennifer) babies.

    Ed, i liked him way more before he left the show…. I just thought he was so cheesey and their time together seemed forced and awkward.

    :::::Sighhhh::::::: oh reid…..I just love you. I like that he holds back a bit. And I also like that he called her out (sort of) and said something along the lines of “i don’t want to lose you to one of the other guys who is just saying things because you want to hear it and not because he means it” and Jillian said “so you think I would buy it”…. I feel like genuine feelings of LOVE take longer than 4 weeks to develop… in 99% of cases, all of us would freak out if a guy dropped L-bombs or W-bombs (wife) within the first month. My mother always told me, that (as terrible as it sounds) try to picture the guy you “love” getting in a terrible car accident and is paralyzed… you are now his primary care taker…. changing his clothes, bathing him, supporting him through the sadness… would you still love him as much as you do now? Would you still feel the same way?Would you stand by him? Developing unconditional love takes more than a few fantasy dates. Gah…. give me 4 hotties and send me to paradise and buy me the most expensive dinners… i think I’d be developing feelings too! LOL! I guess that’s why this show is a big joke… thank god for Lincee’s blog… it keeps me watching the mess :)

    Anyway…. Jillian…just let it be and accept that REID’S THE ONE!!!!!!

  82. Heather Said,

    I would love for LAUREL to be on MTA. Let’s see if she is woman enough to show up. I don’t think all of the guys are required to be there, because in the past, it’s usually not everyone.

    I am also on Team Reid. How can you not want to be married to someone who makes you laugh?

    HWMNBN – good riddance. I will forget your name.

  83. Heather Said,

    Classiest move ever for Jillian to forgo the forgoing. I’m sure she felt pressured to forgo.

  84. Mandy Said,

    I just don’t see it with Ed. When she initially saw him, he just casually walks up while she is squealing like a pig and skipping toward him. He’s just not that into her. I definitely think the problem in the bedroom scene will be with Ed, but surely not E.D. Probably more of a chemistry issue, would be my guess anyway.

    I’m on the Team Reid train. Woo woo. All aboard.

  85. MyAwesomeness Said,

    I read a very funny comment by someone called “BritLit” about Kip and Jill and the snail dinner….

    “The first course arrives. It’s escargot. Kiptyn peers into a shell and speaks to its occupant, “Hello, buddy.” To assure him of her sophistication and that such a dish is not strange to her, Jill offers that “in Vancouver there are tons and tons of giant slugs and snails. Everywhere.” Two thoughts occur: “ I hope Reid doesn’t find out” and “the Yodeler will fit right in.”

    I love Lincee and all you talented, funny writers!

  86. TX Guy Said,

    Wes as the next Bachelor!

    David comes back to tell Wes what a cheese ass he is and beat him up. The rose ceremonies take place on a stage in Austin as the band plays quietly plays ‘Love Don’t Come Easy’. Fantasy dates in Chihuahua, Mexico. Jilly and Laurel come back at the last minute to fight for Wes.

  87. I'm just sayin'... Said,

    I’m not saying Wes is my favorite person in the world, or that I am rushing out to buy his new CD… but it was pretty darn clear that his scenes were edited heavily this week. If you go back and watch both the gazebo scene and the dinner scene, they’re pretty choppy– Wes will be leaning back talking, then suddenly when they show Jillian’s “reaction” to what he said, he’ll suddenly be in a completely different position, like leaning forward- magic. Someone will be eating, and then the next shot, when they show the “response,” the food will be completely gone. It’s SO OBVIOUS.

    And common sense tells me that if a guy did go on the show for fame (which I’m sure he did), why would he do things and say things to make himself the most hated bachelor? Come on! This show has turned a million women against him. Yeah, that’s good for PR.
    Why would he do that?!

  88. jt Said,

    Edited or not, there are certain things about Wes that even Jillian pointed out, and she does not see the show until the rest of us do–she doesn’t make her decisions on how a person is “edited.” So he would have had to say or do certain things in person, in front of her, that made her eventually want to get rid of him.

    But yes, I agree that words/actions/timing on the show are spliced into a certain order. Hence the wet shorts/hair at the beginning of Jillian’s date with Ed, and THEN the fountain shenanigans.

  89. Jaynie Said,

    No way would the Chicken have him.

    Gig ‘em.

  90. Shannon Said,

    Well said Christy #48. I am also married and I am Team Reid all the way. Jillian said it all when she said she feels like she can be herself around him and would at some point of the day pee herself laughing. Also, without saying it, he seems to be the one that is falling for her the most. I fell for him the moment he started to ask for the train staff’s opinions. Bringing her the coffee on the hometown sealed the deal.
    I just don’t feel the whole Ed thing. There is something about him. I see her whole future falsh before my eyes – sitting alone at the kids sporting events because dad is at work. Don’t get me wrong, I am all for a good provider, but the family has to come first.
    Kip seems to be lacking the goofball factor that I find extremely important. He seems to have everything else – sincere, respectable, beautiful and just real sweet, but I don’t see him making her pee herself. Oh yeah, can’t leave out that his mom is the scariest woman ever.

    Team Reid ABSOLUTELY!!!

  91. Allison Said,

    I think the whole e.d. thing will be Reid not being able to do the fantasy overnight date because he is to ooged out by her doing the same thing with the other two guys…..I waS BORED to tears during Ed and Kiptyn’s date!!! For sure on team Reid. I am engaged to a nuerotic and things are never boring!!!

  92. Amy - Team Reid!! Said,

    This might be the first season that I’m actually nervous. I’m ALWAYS wrong on the final pick. But just re-reading how many of you (us!) love Reid – it makes me nervous…..especially with all that drama in the end.

  93. katygirl Said,

    Did anyone else notice HWSNBN sticking up his middle finger several times on the side of his face, that is he had his hand on his face w/ his middle finger up, maybe not intentional but maybe!?!

  94. Mandy Said,

    Why I love this blog….

    Polly pocket reference

    That you KNOW about the Dixie Chicken in College Station

    and….

    HWMNBN

  95. Heather Said,

    new word: Kipnotized “Kip steps back from Jillian and slowly lifts the front of his t-shirt. Four of the nine abs peek out and she is instantly hypnotized.”

  96. Rach Said,

    what does HWMNBN stand for?

  97. D Said,

    I feel like Ed came back different… in better shape and more sure of himself. Not necessarily a bad thing, just different. I liked him better in the beginning, but he is hotter now.
    With all that said… REID is my fav but I think Jill will pick ED.

  98. Diane Said,

    Anyone notice how she asks a question, then picks her fingernails- so gross and annoying!

  99. AggieFan Said,

    I just listened to the radio interview with d-bag. I still think he’s a d-bag. I knew before the interview that things are really edited and spliced and what not, but he still said some ugly things that a true gentleman would never say. I know guys will be guys, but I also know there are lines that you don’t cross, even when you are joking around with your friends. You don’t say stuff like (paraphrasing) “while y’all are here just think of me having lots of sex back home”. If he cared about her at all he wouldn’t have said that, even joking. It is just really poor taste. In the interview he said that Kip had said something sarcastic just before he said that, but it was edited out. I wonder what Kip said and I wonder when that “go to hell” look Kip gave d-bag was given and why if they were just joking around. I know this show is edited to pieces to create a story line, but like others have pointed out, they can only work with what you give them. Only one thing I can give d-bag a pass on. The way he dressed. He said they made him dress down when all the other guys were allowed to wear suites. OHCH didn’t insinuate that at all, which kinda irritates me if it is true. I guess OHCH has to say what the show wants him to say. Anyway, all in all, d-bag is still a d-bag.

  100. E7 Said,

    i do like that jake was somewhat vidicated though. he sort looked foolish after he came back and told jillian about wes and i like that she said jake was right.

  101. AggieFan Said,

    LOVE YOU #89!!!!

  102. Drew Said,

    #96 — He Who Must Not Be Named. Think Lord Voldemort.

  103. Marus Said,

    correct me if i’m wrong… but didn’t Ed only miss one episode? how much time did they really lose together?

  104. Drew Said,

    Oh, and I have to disagree with the “I respect her so much for not forgoing” comments. That is as contrived as everything else this season. Because of the extra five guys, the numbers and weeks got all messed up so there are two weeks of fantasy suites instead of one. So the storyline allows her (I mean, she chooses) to shoot down the bachelors this week, but if there’s one thing I can guarantee (knowing absolutely no spoilers) it’s that there will be plenty of forgoing next week.

  105. Kimberly Said,

    At the very beginning of this show, Jillian said that one of the most important qualities to her in a man was that he make her laugh. Well, the only one of the remaining three that does that is REID! Ed always looks so serious and uncomfortable. Kiptyn is always just there…nothing bad, but nothing stands out about him either, except the nine pack. Reid does dress kinda goofy, but that is something she can fix…..personalities, not so much.

  106. Renee Said,

    I almost feel like Reid is too smart/quick for Jillian, but if she is smarter than I think she will pick him. It’s been a very long time since I’ve been in the beginning stages of falling in love, but I remembered that under the surface giddiness looking at them. My favorite part of the whole show was when Reid was afraid he was mistakenly ordering raw meat. I think he was afraid to find out that Jillian would eat it.

  107. jt Said,

    I agree with Drew #104, especially in light of Jillian’s comment after Jesse’s brother asked if they had been naked together yet. She said something along the lines of, “no, that doesn’t happen until later.”

  108. junoesq Said,

    #99 – I listened to Wes’s interview as well – I do believe that there was lots of editing but one thing I do NOT believe is that they MADE him dress like that. Quite possibly they said: no dress code for the Rose Ceremony, wear whatever you feel comfortable wearing, and so he did. TPTB aside, I have a difficult time believing that Wes even owns a suit, and an even more difficult time imagining him wearing it. And even dressed casually, he could have looked better – no need to look like you just fell out of bed and grabbed the same clothes you wore on the plane and for the last few days, for your closeup. I might believe that they told him to show up unsuited, but I do not, will not, believe that the producers required him to show up at the Rose Ceremony unkempt, unwashed, unpressed and almost certainly unsober. Those were his own choices.

  109. Kelsey Said,

    You know, I think the best thing that could happen would be for HWMNBN and the chauch crew to step foot in the Chicken. Although I LOVE Austin, Austin is much more tolerant of ‘posers’ – the Cxn crew would destroy them, which would be fabulous. A-Whoop!

  110. Reese Said,

    All I wanted was for OHCH to parachute in at the last second and say, out of breath (of course) “GENTLEMEN, Jilian….. this is the final rose tonight. Whenever you’re ready.”

    I think all three are pretty great. I can’t wait to see how her and Reid’s connection builds though, there really seems to be something there! But Ed is just too cute, so it’s okay if she picks him too.

    And how can you resist a nine pack? Kipper might be a weird kisser and have a crazy mom, but he still seems genuine. I don’t blame the guy for thinking a proposal is a little much.

  111. sooner Said,

    junoesq , I totally agree. There is no way that producers forced him to dress like that! How ridiculous is that! Did the producers sneak into his room and hide his clothes and replace them with costumes they had left over from the western date?

  112. jessica Said,

    apparently like many others, i fell in love with reid on monday. i kept repeating over and over during their date, “oh my gosh, he’s just so adorable.” i love the wit, the fact that he teases her a little bit, and the fact that he’s not afraid to poke fun at himself as well. i.e. the raw meat comment of “oh great!”

    GO TEAM REID.

    some other things i noticed:
    -thought it was very cute how jill and kiptyn raced to meet each other…and loved how he winked at her during dinner. i’m a sucker for the wink.

    -reid’s ‘hola mi amore’ was absolutely the cutest greeting ever. my perma-grin during their date began at that moment…

    -think ed is dreamy but agree with others that he seems different since he’s come back and not nearly as sweet and humble. what happened, ed?!

    -respect to jillian for passing on the foregoing. atta girl.

    -don’t even know where to start with wes. so disrespectful. and being a texas girl, i want to formally disagree with him regarding reid, ed, and kiptyn not getting a “nibble” in texas. au contrair, sir.

  113. Sandy Said,

    #52 I think Reid probably nixed any suggestions about ziplining, or bungee jumping, or any of the other goofy, unnecessary “adventurous” dates. Every time I see the bachelors/bachelorettes doing stuff like that I think, “WHY???” Granted, I’m not an adventurous person, but still…

    I love Reid! I’m from Philly, and most of the guys I’ve known (and loved!) have had that same type of personality…funny/teasing/sarcastic wit (but not overly sarcastic)…it’s so much fun to date guys that are like that! Laughter is the glue that holds a relationship together, and if Jillian doesn’t choose Reid I will be very disappointed.

    I agree with the people that have been saying Ed is different since he returned. I’m not sure what it is, but it’s been bugging me. Is it me, or does he seem too GQ in those argyle sweaters? There’s something about him that hasn’t been sitting well with me. He does seem distracted, stiff and uncomfortable, and I just don’t feel he has as much chemistry with Jillian as Reid.

    Still can’t believe she describes HWMNBN as being EXACTLY the type of guy she’s most attracted to. What is wrong with her??

  114. Tracy Said,

    By far my favorite recap so far! hilarious. I am totally on the Reid bandwagon after this week’s show. He had me at Soy Grande! Team Reid.

  115. Lea Anne Said,

    My husband claims to hate the show too, but obivously not enough to not watch. He was squealing with delight watching HWSNBN go down in flames last night. We were cracking up when he said, “I think we should” referring to the forgo card! What an a$$.

    I heart Reid and don’t think it’s a coincidence that my husband has started wearing his black framed glasses around the house….hum…..I think he knows I’m crushing on him.

  116. Shelley Said,

    Does anyone else have a mental picture of WH crooning to a bunch of squealing, yapping…chihauhauas? Think about it!

  117. Michelle Said,

    I’ve never posted before and I have to start by saying how funny Lincee’s recaps (and the comments!) are. I thought that I was crazy, but it looks like there are others who really liked Ed before and thought that it was perfectly sensible for him to leave yet now feel something is different. It’s not even the lack of eye contact for me — I know plenty of really smart and genuine people who just have a hard time with that, especially when they are thinking or talking about something important. This is going to sound weird, but it’s like he’s not as awkward and that’s what I loved. And I don’t think that it’s just that Reid has made me like him more each week! Maybe this means nothing, but I thought that Reid was cute from the beginning so I was always looking for him, and it seemed that somehow he was right next to Jillian at a lot of the post-rose ceremony toasts, even though you never saw them interacting.

  118. jen Said,

    i got to be honest…i’m not really liking jill very much. it’s been coming on for some time, and now it’s almost official. she’s really really starting to bother me. can’t pinpoint why. not that anyone really cares, just figured i’d add a comment about it. haha.

  119. thisshowmakesmecrazy Said,

    i’ve decided i love ed because he makes me think of mr. darcy from pride and prejudice

  120. Christina Said,

    #48 so totally true! Here is another married lady who loooooves Reid. He is just so right, and Ed and Kip have nothing on him in the looks department. You just can’t go wrong with this guy, he is all around gorgeous.

  121. Alih Said,

    could someone please explain “gig ‘em” ?

    Love the recap as always. Team REID. Boo-yah!

  122. hollyann Said,

    LOL! Did anyone read Chris Harrison’s blog this week? Classic!

    “You guys wouldn’t believe the time it takes me to write those cards and then mail them to Spain. I’m thinking next season we go green and I’ll just text them the fantasy suite option.”

    http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/07/chris-harrison-blogs-the-bachelorette-episode-8.html?xid=rss-feed-todayslatest-%27Bachelorette%27+host+blogs+ep+8

  123. tibbit Said,

    Word on the street from Tiki Island is that our bachelorette is not so stunning in person. The other tidbit is that some of the scenes we find so uncomfortable are so because they make them act them out over and over and over. Like the snowshoeing scene, ugh that was bad.
    I am on team Reid because selfishly I want Ed. Thanks for the wonderful recap as always!!

  124. heidi Said,

    Of course Jilly turned down the forgo cards! sleeping with 4 different men on consecutive nights looks slutty. 3 is a definitely more acceptable number.

  125. CU Said,

    I have to disagree with everyone applauding Jillian for turning down the fantasy suites. I do think it was a classy move, and I love the fact that she isn’t sleeping with all of the guys, but here’s my beef… she has 6ish weeks to find her potential husband. And she is wasting precious time that they have to talk about whatever they want (not just what the producers want them to talk about) and to be real with each other without cameras and completely alone. Classy, yes, but foolish too! The girl is wasting precious time!

    My bachelorette was interrupted by a press conference on the serial killer down here in SC who was caught Monday morning. I totally missed Reid’s date! Sounds like it was a good one!

    I think, aside from Wes, Jillian has made some great decisions. I don’t think she can go wrong with any of these guys!

    #116 – Shelley – LOVE the chihuahua image! Thanks for making me laugh so hard!

  126. CU Said,

    I will say, though, that this being the first time the show has ever had fantasy suites with 4 guys left, and the fact that they were almost all turned down… seems a bit contrived to me.

  127. white Said,

    ok totally noticed hwsnbn middle finger on the side of his face during MOST of the picnic scene with polly!!! so glad someone else saw it! and the off-kilter belt too!!

    i HOPE HOPE HOPE its not reid with the E.D.—but you know it always seems to go the other way that we want it to at the end!

    LOVE REID! don t you know women everywhere are going to start making their men wear glasses :)

    harrisons and jillians blog both explain a lot this week–although hare NEVER says why he WASNT in spain–

  128. KoKo from Mo City Said,

    Don’t know if anyone answered the inquiry about the pot of neckbones…but it is a Texas (or Southern) reference, meaning it is a good situation like eating neckbones – which are da bomb if slow cooked and seasoned ever so right.

    But I digress…I never would have known the jerk would know the saying. I think I am taking the phrase out of my repertoire for this reason alone.

  129. Michelle Said,

    I’ll happily step into the long line for Reid. Sigh. LOVE him. My guess is that ABC is setting Reid up to be the next Bachelor…EVERYONE is loving him, and the editing in this episode clearly made it look like he is the front-runner. As everyone who has ever watched this show knows, once they get down to the final few episodes, whoever *seems* to have the best connection is never the one who gets picked. I hope I’m wrong, but…on the other hand, how AWESOME would a whole season of Reid as the Bachelor be??? Sign me up!! Husband and two kids? Not me : )

  130. Stella Said,

    Here’s a story about HMNBN from a friend of a friend who lives in Austin. Not sure if it’s true so take with a grain of salt. Pretty hilarious but please be warned there is some offensive language.

    we were at the bar the other night, just standing there talking, and that tool is sitting by himself at the corner of the bar. He just walked up to us and started in….

    “I guess you guys are probably talking about me, huh?’

    “……um…….no”

    “You guys recognize me from the Bachelorette, I know”

    “uh…..no, don’t watch the show, have no idea who you are or what you are talking about”

    “it just sucks being recognized all the time and people keep coming up to me and wanna talk, and stuff, you know? I mean, just because I’m on this show and all, it’s really annoying, ya know?”

    “……………..(blank stares from me and my friends)…….”

    “you know, that was pretty f–ked up what they did to me in the media, I just want to focus on my band and be left alone, you know?”

    “dude, you came up to us for no reason and started talking, I…what……um………..”

    “…..blah, blah, blah…..my band this……my music that……yada yada yada…….”

    He mustve gone on for about 5 more minutes, and we just up and moved to the back deck, when he tried to follow us out there?!?!?!?!

    my buddy just stopped and looked at him for a sec, and went “seriously?? you, uh, weren’t invited”

    “oh, OK”………and walked back to his spot at the bar by himself

    He also had this to say about that Laurel girl: is a complete wh–e and a b–ch – she just stalks bars

  131. jessica Said,

    #121 – ‘Gig’em’ is a phrase used by fans of Texas A&M University, originating as school spirit during football games, and now having been generalized to be a phrase of affirmation by most Aggies.

    People keep using it here because of Lincee’s reference to the Dixie Chicken, which is a bar in College Station, Texas, the home of Texas A&M.

    Hope this helps! Thanks and gig’em!!

  132. saggleo Said,

    #124 – heidi Said, “Of course Jilly turned down the forgo cards! sleeping with 4 different men on consecutive nights looks slutty. 3 is a definitely more acceptable number.”

    Heidi..I’m rolling! Many of the comments have had me cracking up for my lunch hour (and most of all Lincee’s AWESOME BLOG!!) but I can’t stop giggling at this! HILARIOUS! I thought to myself…oh yeah it’s going down next episode! lol

    Great job as always Lincee! I love love love your comments about Reid in between your retelling of the date! That guy is just too freaking adorable! I can’t remember how far back I said it, but I did say that her and Reid favor. I love that he’s not just saying what she wants to hear…when she wants to hear it. He’s doing it in his own time which is the right way to be! Who was a fake forced answer, when it comes naturally it’s more meaningful…don’t force it! rgh!

    MaggieMay…it is on! Chicago or Canda – we will get some Cosmos going!

  133. adriana Said,

    I can say after this episode that I have no clue who she’s going to pick in the end. I’d be going with Reid or Ed, but I think Kip still has a good chance. Crazy! I’ve always had a favorite by now, but I like all three of them for different reasons!

    SOOOOO glad HWMNBN is gone! UGHHHH what a moron!

  134. saggleo Said,

    #127 – white Said, “ok totally noticed hwsnbn middle finger on the side of his face during MOST of the picnic scene with polly!!! so glad someone else saw it!”

    I thought he had both fingers up…index and middle? Maybe I missed a point somewhere.

    I do have to rewatch the beginning of the episode anyway. Oh who am I kidding…I gotta see the whole Reid interaction/action AGAIN!!! lol

  135. PJane1031 Said,

    #93 & #127– Yeah, I noticed the middle finger on the side of HWMNBN’s head, too, and if I remember right from my non-verbal communications course in college, that is usually an outward response to how a person is ‘actually’ feeling. What a tool!!!

  136. AggieFan Said,

    you can aslo check out the meaning of gig’em here.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gig_em

    I didn’t read it, but something that jessica didn’t mention is the saying was started by one of the male cheerleaders (yellers) a hundred years ago right before a football game with Texas Christian University, whose mascot is the horned toad. Frog hunters “gig” frogs to catch them. The saying just stuck.

  137. PJane1031 Said,

    saggleo. . . . I think both fingers were up, but the middle finger was certainly more prominant

  138. saggleo Said,

    #128 – KoKo from Mo City – I’m not from the south but my mom is and I’ve had neckbones many a times in my life and that HWMNBN has just wrecked it for me! They are all kinds of awesome…especially with hot sauce!

    I say again…if any of you Texas Greenbeaners happen to run into him in an alley after he finishes a show… I’m just saying is all…just sayin’.

  139. Jean Said,

    The side belt thing is a hipster fashion trend from 2002.

  140. Shopgirl Said,

    #139, Jean: The side belt buckle started with Peter Tork of the Monkees in 1966.

    I hate being so old…. ;)

  141. Debbie Said,

    #140 all she needed was a pair of striped polyester bellbottom pants…with the boots and a side pony tail she really would have been rocking it. Not that I know…I was in utero in 1966 :-)

  142. barb Said,

    I’ve always been a fan of Ed and am so glad he’s back. However, I just got this sick feeling in my gut. What if ABC made a deal with Ed to come back and play the game and then he can be the next Bachelor? That would explain why he looks off in space and not her. Uuuggg.

  143. hnygrl Said,

    I think she intends to pick Kiptyn, sends REID home, and It’s REID who comes back just before the final rose to propose and screws up her brain that way.

    I think REID comes back after it’s almost too late and finally proclaims his love for her and that’s why she was all confused at the end.

    Also, I seriously think there is something fishy with ED. I think he either has a girlfriend or seriously ulterior motives because he is just not that into Polly Pocket and brotha ain’t no kinda actor…

    This girl is so insecure and wishy washy it’s sad. She likes the men who don’t like her. Thus cheese-ass lasted so long, and now ED. Sheesh. Ed OBVIOUSLY isn’t into her! But the more they balk the more in love she falls.

  144. saggleo Said,

    I guess everyone is doing work now…I keep hitting refresh to see new comments! LOL Monday can’t get here fast enough!

  145. kaya Said,

    I just want to share what I think about the ’scene preview’ for the Finale, that ran at the end of this episode.
    From the sound of the voices, I think it is Reid and Ed that are in the Final Two. And both of their comments, and Jillian’s reactions, seemed to suggest that they either had a change of heart or a serious case of cold feet, or the reality finally hit them. I think NEITHER is going to propose, and Jillian will be left at the ‘HD proposal stand’ without a ring or a fiancee. No ‘Mission Accomplished’ banner in her immediate future….

    As for HWMNBN – I actually started calling him THE word, or SOUND, that comes out when you try to say ‘HWMNBN’, namely ‘KHwymbyn’. For some reason this one word, in this form, sounds like a perfect descriptor of this dic*wad, and a perfect name for him. (It’s got an exact combination of loathing and disgust and vomit!)

  146. saggleo Said,

    #145 – kaya, I heard the voices to and picked up Kip and Ed’s voices, not Reid’s. And I thought for a moment that Ed’s voiceover sounded like what he said he when he left the first time. Like the exact same words, so it could be play of confusion for his part. I don’t know. I’m not putting much stock in the previews as they tend to be a little off in what is actually shown sometimes.

  147. Nikki Said,

    I have to stick up for Ed just a tiny bit. I am one of those people who have a really hard time looking people in the eye. I am pretty shy/introverted/whatever you want to call it, yet I obviously live in the world and must talk to people all of the time. Sometimes, I have a physical reaction to looking people right in the eye when “I” am talking (doesn’t matter when they are talking). It must have something to do with knowing someone is looking at me and that I am the center of attention – I hate it! So, I look away to avoid it. It’s horrible and a habit that I wish I could break.

    So, I’m not so sure that Ed is shifty/dishonest and the other things that people have called him for not looking Jillian in the eye…I think he is not yet comfortable with her. It probably feels more like an interview (with kissing) than a conversation with your girlfriend…they’re just not there yet.

  148. jammf Said,

    #124 Heidi, I really laughed at the probable truth of that statement. Ha!

    If Jilly doesn’t pick Reid, I want him! I’m afraid she’ll pick Ed and he seems as into Jillian as Wes was. Not feeling it Ed.

  149. junoesq Said,

    We can put no stock whatsoever into the “voices” we heard over the Finale preview. They could have been said at any time, about anything. Reid: I’m sorry to disappoint her (because we couldn’t find that stupid “dinner in a safe” place fast enough on the very second show). None of the “previews” that are designed to make us think that A or B happened EVER reflect what actually happened – see, Deyawna’s return to counsel Jason in NZ, for example. ABC has done a pretty good job of keeping the ending under wraps this time – either that, or I’ve done a really good job of resisting Reality Steve and FORT this time!

  150. heidi Said,

    it’s true, ABC is being very guarded this season after last season’s cat coming out of the bag too soon.
    And saggleo, you’re right! Monday can’t come soon enough. Did I just say that I wish it was Monday? What’s wrong with me?!

  151. SC Said,

    This has been the lamest Bachelor(ette) in a long time… I have only watched about 2 episodes this season because of it (and just read Lincee’s recaps instead). Jillian is lacking confidence BIG TIME and it’s annoying to watch. I adore Reid and their dates are getting better and better. Ed is cute but I see nothing substantial there- however, he’s the only one feeding Jill the stuff she wants to hear- moving/long term stuff. Kip is adorable but very Melba II. Why would anyone think he’s crazy for not seeing it in the cards to get engaged? They date for what, 6 weeks? And Jill keeps going ON and ON about how she wants to get a ring at the end, and it’s a leap of faith. Yeah, Jillian, it’s a leap of faith alright! It’s kind of nuts! Why isn’t it viewed at going on the show to meet your match, not your future ex!!!

  152. Kat Said,

    My favorite part is a toss-up between Kip’s NINE abs; and
    “Hi Cheese Ass! It’s Lincee. Spain is a country in Europe. Do you remember getting on the plane and handing the nice man your passport and getting your first stamp ever? That’s right! You are in Spain. Not Mexico. They are not the same. Remember how you get pissed off when people think you are from Georgia because of your accent? It’s the same thing.”

    Wasn’t Cheese-ass also the one (while in Vancouver) who asked if that was a lake or an ocean?

    I promise, they teach geography in Texas!

    GO TEAM REID!!

  153. Claiborne Said,

    If Jillian wants to be proposed to, I think Ed is her only bet. Kiptyn already said he wouldn’t be ready and if Reid is neurotic, he isn’t going to jump into marriage. Ed MIGHT do it for a couple of reasons-
    1. He is too busy with work to find someone else and this is a convenient way to get a wife.
    2. He is a little older and genuinely ready to settle down.
    3. He doesn’t get as much female attention in Chicago to think there are many other good options.

    I do not think, however, that there will be a proposal. There has been no leak of that and there usually is. Jillian will act like she is cool with “just being together”, but she will be disappointed.

    After all I have read on the blog about Reid, he will have girls CHASING after him when he returns home. If he was the one she picked, I doubt it will last for this reason. Kiptyn seems like he needs more of a trophy wife than someone like Jillian.
    What do you all think?

  154. saggleo Said,

    How’s this for speculation? I dont’ think HWMNBN is from Texas and is an imposter!!!! From planet IDIOT and he’s passing himself off as a semi-human! Yeah…sounds good to me!

  155. saggleo Said,

    I’m confused b/c I remember Jillian being all to OHCH…careful with the H word there Chris. So how is it that everyone is getting that she’s seeking a proposal. I thought she’s always had the idea of just find a great match and if marriage happens later..it happens. I think I’m missing some of the show somewhere…or I’m tuning out wishing my own stuff! lol

  156. SC Said,

    Because she said “I want a proposal at the end of this”… :)

  157. saggleo Said,

    #156 – Thanks SC…I must be tuning out at points!!! LOL

  158. Toonce Said,

    I have one word for Jilly’s date with Kiptyn – “BORRRRRRRING!!” He looked quite uncomfortable in that bed…she was trying to snuggle up and he looked like he wanted to run. Something is up with him and it’s time for him to go.

    I don’t think Ed has a girlfriend or anything, but I just don’t think their personalities match. He’s a bit shy and she’s way too quirky for him. The only thing they have is a physical connection and that’s why they were playing tonsil hockey all over the place. When I saw him walk up to her in the park with those aviators, I must admit, I got a little hot & bothered!!!

    TEAM REID all the way! He can wash my vegatables anytime!

    Good riddance Cheese Ass. #99…awesome quote. “all in all, d-bag is still a d-bag.” If he ever releases a CD, which I highly doubt because he sucks, I will march right on up to Best Buy myself and boycott it. You can hold me to that!

  159. Toonce Said,

    I just realized I spelled “vegetables” wrong. I swear, I don’t need to go back to 7th grade english with Jillian!

  160. StephTX Said,

    Just wanted to say keep up the great work Lincee and others!
    Team Reid – Definitely; Ed – Blah; Kip – Not enough Chemistry & Wes – just ick!

  161. rebeca Said,

    my friend from chihuahua, mexico informed me that hwmnbn’s #1 song was popular but only in a william hung from american idol rejects sort of way. . . ouch.

    i heart reid.

  162. Rachel Said,

    Saggleo- watch Jillian’s reaction to Kip confessing that he’s not really into a proposal at the end because it’s too premature. You can practically see her deflate. She DEF wants an engagement, but I think she realizes that it’s crazy to come right out and ask the guys for it. She keeps trying to talk them all into it with this “leap of faith” crap.

    Unfortunately I would like to say that Jillian was smart enough to remove her douchebag blinders, but I think HWMNBN decided he wanted off the show so he became distant and more dickish. He had to work REALLLY hard for the boot.

  163. SC Said,

    “I am here to get engaged”…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT9NWw1QMSs
    It is kinda funny to see her reaction to Kip’s VERY SENSIBLE words!

  164. SC Said,

    oops, watch at the 4:35 mark

  165. My Awesomeness Said,

    I think Jillian and Kip were very into each other but we can’t show it on camera. So they were giggling and trying to hold back. The way they were both mussed and walking to the door like the last thing they wanted to do was say goodnight. (I think they both wanted to stay the night…)

    I also had the feeling that Kip’s comment was edited about the proposal, I think they clipped off the last part of his sentence. Perhaps he is not holding back as much as they want us to think. :)

    I really get the sincere, sweet guy vibe from Kip. Maybe it is just my Kip colored glasses but I like the strong, capable, sincere good sport that is hot!

  166. Shopgirl Said,

    My Awesomeness: I think you may have ab-colored glasses! LOL

    Actually, I like all three that remain, although from what we’ve seen, I’m leaning toward Reid. Unless something DRAMATIC happens on the next episode of “The Bachelor,” I think I’ll be happy with whomever Jill chooses.

  167. KoKo from Mo City Said,

    #119 – thisshowmakesmecrazy Said,
    i’ve decided i love ed because he makes me think of mr. darcy from pride and prejudice

    You love Mr. Darcy too?…but, if it is the movie version of him (book is fabu too) it has to be the one with Keira Knightley. His face is too adorably expressive!!

    As a TCU Horned Frog (yea, I know) I never knew the Aggie “Gig ‘em” origin and these Aggies I work with have never mentioned it either. New trivia…I love it.

  168. KoKo from Mo City Said,

    BTW…is it okay to be on two teams? I like both Reid and Ed. Torn between to Bachelors…I should be the next Bachelorette!

  169. Trinity Said,

    I only had eyes for ED, but now he’s gotta share my admiration with Reid, who was so sweet and funny on the Spain date! I do think Jillian seems the most comfortable with Reid-and unlike some of their earlier dates- their conversation has become more substantial, but still “effortless”, as Reid put it. Also, I gotta defend Ed, too, (like Nikki #147) regarding the “eye contact” thing. I am –unfortunately–bad about not locking eyes with my listener when I’m speaking, even though I’m being sincere. I was that way with my husband- even when I was genuinely falling for him, when we were dating, until I became more comfortable. I know the couples here are working on an accelerated time table, but if eye contact is an issue with Ed, still may take some time to overcome. I do think he’s sincere.

    I am concerned that Jilli didn’t get to meet Ed’s family–what if his mom is as scary as Kip’s?!! Yikes!

    Hope Reid and Ed are the final two! I heart them both! Like Ernest T on The Andy Griffith Show with Helen Crump and Charlene Darlin— “I’m torn twix them two loves!” (Hey–sounds like a title for HWMNBN ’s next #1 hit in Mexico or some other “Spanish” country!!)

    Great recap, Lincee!! I hate that I’m addicted to this show, the blogs, the comments, etc!! Such a guilty pleasure!

  170. KeelyG Said,

    Is anyone thinking since Ed is an IT guy….couldn’t he just get a webcam somehow? Hook it up to a notebook and web into the parents household and whala! Meet the parents! OH….ABC intern might not be a teckie!

  171. Alicia Said,

    I think I heard last week that Ed parents get flown in to Hawaii! (Or maybe someone just said that they hoped that…but I really think that they do)

  172. Austin-ite Said,

    It has been driving me crazy why Jillian looks so different this season … but thanks to the greenbeaners I think I’ve put my finger on it. I was missing the side pony.

  173. Austin-ite Said,

    Ok … and I will forever order a Soy Grande Latte whenever I’m at Starbucks.

  174. jt Said,

    I think it’s interesting how there was so much Ed love last week after he came back, and this week it’s all about Reid. What a difference an episode makes!

  175. Saggleo Said,

    #163 – SC – Thanks! Oh yeah that was deflation! He makes sense though. It almost like she’d be blinded to the real person that’s a good fit b/c she wants a proposal at the end. That’s a guaranteed recipe for disaster me thinks.

    Holy crap Lincee wasn’t lying…those pants were TIGHT!!! I thought it was cute that they ran to each other when they met up. Man I want to go back to Spain so bad!

  176. Christi Said,

    I totally agree with those of you who believe Wes got a terrible editing job. What kind of idiot do you have to be to go on a reality show to promote your career (which I believe he did and who really cares? Half the people on this show are looking to self-promote for one reason on another) and then behave like the biggest a-hole, dirt bag to make America hate you and then NOT buy your record? It makes no sense. The editing is so choppy and half the time it’s Wes’ voice over and not the camera actually on him when he allegedly says these things. We have no idea the true context of his statements and sentences can obviously be spliced together. Maybe he is a d**khead, but I truly believe he did not say most of those things in the context that they were presented. ABC has to create a storyline and that they do – they just count on most people taking it at face value – and they do.

  177. TB Said,

    118: I agree. I am not a fan of little Jilly anymore. She just annoys me. It is extremely unattractive to turn down a compliment…especially from a man you might one day want to marry. I like Kip and Ed, but I love Reid. His sense of humor reminds me of my husband’s. I kind of hope she doesn’t pick Reid, so that he can have someone more deserving. Just me.

  178. bethany Said,

    This is your funniest recap ever. Love it. Go Team Reid.

  179. Jeanne Said,

    I don’t think our girl Jilli is the adventurous, independent gal she claims to be. I think she’s our insecure and frightened gal wanting a man she knows adores her, and will want to take care of her. That’s okay, she just needs to be sure she doesn’t settle for anything less than that.
    Chris Harrison is now on Facebook and you can become a fan. Who’s not a fan of our Best Man, OHCH?

  180. C List Said,

    Torn about what the ending may be. On the one hand, i’m leaning toward it being Kip justbecause the edit on their date was so freaking boring. You know they always edit to lead us to believe the opposite of what happens in the end. Reid’s getting a great edit, so I think he’s F2. Ed — I don’t know what to think. I wasn’t on the Ed bandwagon til you gals got me hyped up. And I was so glad he came back, but now something just seems off. I can’t put my finger on it.

    BUT… I’m really starting to lean towards her picking NO ONE. In fact, I think this is the most likely option.

  181. oh dear Said,

    “That bird had no foot!”

    Classic diversionary tactic, classic.

  182. MyAwesomeness Said,

    #166 Shopgirl – ROFL! (The abs ARE a bonus!)

    I do like Reid folks, he could be my best friend! However, I like a decisive guy. :) Or at least one that pretends to be! lol

    Ed maybe the best guy in the world, just does not appeal to me. I would not trust him.

    Anyone wonder what happened to that cute winemaker, Jesse? No interviews? No rumors? Could he be the mysterious unexpected proposal that was shown in previews? Or is that another preview that just fades away, like the whole E.D. thing? They really aren’t giving us anything to ponder this week – perhaps they thought cowboy (W)*ass would give us enough to talk about! That bird line is going to go down in Bach’ette history. Edited yes, but it was the way he dealt with Jill’s questions that made us see through his “aw shucks, I’m a nice good ol’ boy” act. The bird may have only had one foot, but W*ass did not have a leg to stand on!

  183. oregon Said,

    #181 agree! that was a classic! like everyone else, i think reid is perfect and adorable. loved the entire date. ed was my favorite but now i’m not a fan. he doesn’t seem genuine – but more scripted, like he’s saying what he knows she wants to hear. fantastic recap, as always!!

  184. barb Said,

    I think Jill is adorable and my husband thinks she’s the cutest girl to ever be on this show. I love her joy and spirit and I hope she finds the right guy in this process. I think Wes is just the strangest creep ever.

    Sadly, I don’t think Jilli finds love on this show because there are no lead ups to her engagement or otherwise.

  185. saggleo Said,

    #182 – MyAwesomeness – the E.D. comes on the Hawaii trip. Wasn’t happening this episode since she declined all the room requests…except for Ed.

  186. oh dear Said,

    Oh, and all the Jillian haters should give the poor girl a break. This Bachelorette thing can’t be that easy, and they all (bachelors, bachelorettes) kind of come off looking like dummies. Isn’t that why we love the show?

    I still think Jillian is adorable, flaws and all…I mean, come on, how would you come off on this show? It’d be hard! After all, isn’t there some saying about love not coming easy? …Oh dear.

  187. saggleo Said,

    #186 – oh dear – LMAO!!!! See what you did…you gave the song meaning!!! lol I’m kidding but I chuckled out loud at your post!

  188. Lacia C Said,

    I was at the grocery store yesterday and happened to be in the cracker aisle…..saw boxes upon boxes of Melba Toast, thought of last season’s Lincee recaps about Melba Toast Jason and cracked up laughing!! Shopping in the cracker aisle will never be the same again without thinking of Melba Toast Jason……LOL

  189. saggleo Said,

    Ok…I just read this on TWOP and thought you guys would enjoy a nice laugh…I’m still chuckling. It can hold us over till Lincee’s next post. I took out HWMNBN name and put in Lincee’s clever acronym. b/c we don’t mention that here!

    Start quote-
    “charmdiva: This was the first episode I have watched this season and it certainly was entertaining!

    HWMNBN said, “it’s never easy when you get dumped, but you have to pick up, you got to pull your pants up, and go, you just got to keep living. So, HWMNBN is used to getting dumped with his pants down?

    This? Is hilarious. Was he going for “pull yourself up by your bootstraps” or something? Oh my god he’s an idiot. But very entertaining.

    He seems to have trouble with malapropisms (if I’m using the right term). He was also talking at dinner about ‘clearing the table’ when I think he meant ‘clearing the air’.

    When he made the comment about the bird not having a foot I actually (*DUH*) thought he was making an analogy and was talking about their relationship. Thanks for straightening me out!” End quote.

    I didn’t even catch the cleaning the table mess up… oh man. Gotta love good snark!! Used to being dumped w/ pants down…lol! I need to do some work! lol

  190. old fan Said,

    I still like jillian- like her style, her naturalness, her honesty. Yes, she was a fool re Wes. Yes, she’s asking for compliments, reassurance. But she’s got to find out how they’re feeling, and if they’re not forthcoming, then she has to pull it out of them. But I like her. Seems normal.

  191. Jenny Said,

    How about this scenario of why Jillian appears to be confused and/or disappointed at the final rose.

    The guy she doesn’t pic DOES appear as if he’s going to propose. .much like Jason started to get down on one knee with Deanna. Jillian dumps that guy and then her true love enters. She selects him but he does NOT propose.

    this sends Jillian into a tailspin b/c she wanted to get engaged. She just dumped a guy who wanted to marry her and has now picked a guy who wants to get to know her a little better.

    Thoughts?

  192. MyAwesomeness Said,

    Did anyone hear what Jill said to Kip in Spanish when they met in the park? I think he said, “that’s perfect” or something back. I remember Jill saying that Kip knew 5 languages or something on his home town date? I guess they would be able to get a picnic together in a least 5 countries! :D

    In reality-fantasy land, if Jilli and Kip got together, they could surf in California and snowboard in Whistler…I’m just saying.

    Thanks for all the entertaining comments. (I still like Jill!)

  193. I wish Reid would marry me! Said,

    I am in love with Reid and if Jillian doesn’t pick him, then Lincee will you PLEASE find a way to pimp him out.

    And for the reference to HWMNBN being at the Dixie Chicken, I would punch him if he walked in those swinging doors!

  194. barb Said,

    Oh, I wanted to add this about Tanner and Jake. They are class acts for looking out for Jillian. What Gentlemen they turned out to be. I love them both. As for Tanner. He played that foot fetish up way too much and apparently he really has a problem with that. However, my perfect husband would love to rub my feet, has the “package” I saw on Tanner and that six pack. He’s also protective. Jake and Tanner are good examples of Texas men not that idiot that we don’t mention by name. I’m from Austin and I’d laugh in that A-hole’s face if he came and started talking to me with those stupid incorrect phrases. Did the guy graduate from high school?????? It sure does not speak well for that Lauren girl who is or is not his girlfriend since we know for sure that they dated at least 6 years. What kind of person could she possibly be to enjoy a man like that????

  195. LoveLincee! Said,

    What do you guys think about this? Is Wes genuine here?

    http://realitysteve.com/podcasts/wesinterview.mp3

  196. Leslie from Austin Said,

    I have 2 comments:

    First, I think it is hilarious that all of us from Texas know what Gig ‘em means and assume everyone else does too. It never occured to me that when using terms like Gig ‘em, and of course my personal favorite, Hook ‘em, that everyone wouldn’t know what we were talking about. Too funny.

    Secondly, does it bother anyone else that Jilly constantly licks her lips, not really the whole lips just the corners. Everytime she is listening to what the boys are saying or sometimes when she gets ready to speak she has to lick both corners of her mouth. Very annoying!!!

    Oh and one more thing, I love Reid and Chandler Bing!!!

  197. Alicia Said,

    I love Jill and think she’s a sweetheart…but I have not the lips thing. Not only does she lick them, but she does the blowing thing too….ALOT! I know it’s sort of a “sigh” or a “whew” sort of thing….it just tickles me.

    # 196 – Leslie (and others). I’ve always known what frog gigging was (I’m an Alabama girl), but I’ve never done it or been a part of it. However – I do know that it’s illegal here!!! If you get caught by the game warden gigging frogs – you’ll get slapped with a big old fine!!

  198. saggleo Said,

    #196 – Leslie from Austin – I just assumed it meant kick his ass! LOL People have mentioned the lip licking but I still haven’t noticed it or just don’t pay attention to it. Too funny! I stil lthink Jill is sweet she’s just confused I’m sure now with all the emotions and things involved. I know there are things about me that may annoy at times, so b/c I mention or agree if something does bug me, doesn’t mean I dont’ like her any more. We all got our quirks! We don’t all have 9 pack abs though! (that doesn’t have anything to do with anything..I just wanted to say that!) LOL

    I thought she looked really cute in her interview portion with Kip’s date in the brown or something tank stop…no she’s not drop dead gorgeous as some want to keep saying apparenlty in person or whatever…but there are certain things about someone that make them drop dead gorgeous to the right person. Attraction is attraction! Can’t explain that!

    #195 – LoveLincee – I’m not listening to that, but I also don’t give a care to entertain his have pity on me party I was edited bad b.s. Words came out his mouth…regardless! As many of us have said time and time again…no amount of feel sorry for me is going to work on this Chicago girl! He can go cry himself a river – no one else cares!

  199. saggleo Said,

    #191 – Jenny stop feeding my addiction! LOL I’m not that good at speculating so I won’t even attempt that one! Good thought though!

  200. terri Said,

    #189 — What is TWOP???

    I’m team Reid too, however, as someone else already said, they usually edit the final one down to almost nothing interesting and the F2 gets lots of face time.

    I agree, if it ain’t Reid, Lincee needs to do some Big Pimpin on him. To me he’s a boilin’ pot of neck bones! Hey oh!!

  201. Jenn Said,

    “Gig ‘em” is the traditional school yell at Texas A&M, usually yelled with a thumbs up. It most likely originates from the school’s military history. At one time, Texas A&M was an all male school and everyone was in the corps of cadets and, while they now allow women and non-regs (students who are not in the corps), they are still one of the largest military schools behind the three military academies. A gig is a demerit in military terms. The Sophomore cadets hand out gigs, or demerits, to the Freshman cadets. There’s another story that has something to do with someone yelling out Gig ‘em at a yell practice before a game with TCU, whose mascot is the horned frog. This would go along with the illegal frog gigging in Alabama, but I seriously doubt that is where the school got the term.

  202. saggleo Said,

    #200 – terri – it’s televisionwithoutpity – it’s a website of the same name. Forums about shows and such and people can make comments.etc. They have a forum about almost every show on tv. Warning – It can be very addictive. I didn’t read a book for 6 months b/c I was reading the comments from reality housewives shows…lol. The recaps of the Bachelorette are pretty good but not as good as Miss Lincee!!! No one can touch her!!!

    I think Lincee’s site would crash if she pimped out Reid!!! It would BE awesome!!!! (Be in Bing voice)

  203. Patty Said,

    I am not listening to an 85 minute interview with that idiot…Reality Steve has let the fame go to his head this season and am not much of a fan of his anymore. He berates all of us that believe idiot was portrayed at least halfway correctly and we are stupid if we don’t believe RS because idiot tells him he was portrayed wrong. I think everyone should have their own opinion and if yours doesn’t go along with RS then you are stupid. I can’t even read his blogs anymore because I really think the 5 minutes of fame he got last season by telling what was going to happen on Jason’s season has gone straight to the head. I would much rather just stick with Lincee’s site and be entertained and not berated because you don’t believe what he says is gospel. JMO

  204. Reese Said,

    # 191 Jenny – I like this explanation! I reaaaaally don’t want to know who the final two might be though!

  205. k-ohhh Said,

    I need some confirmation regarding Post #33 – the end of the post said Jill should have kept Jake and David – DAVID??? WERE THERE TWO DAVIDS? AM I MISSING SOMETHING? I think David s*cked as much as Wes, he’s just was too much of a cheese ass to hide it for a little longer.

    I never thought I’d ever look forward to Mondays as much as I do. I know some people think this season is boring but listen, I’ve committed myself fully to this series and if i requires me to sit through some boring dates, nonsense jibber jabber and a lot of strategic editing, then as God as my witness I will because that feeling you get at the final rose ceremony, sitting on the edge of your couch, stomach in knots, screaming on the inside and nearly wizzing yourself with excitement – IS SO WORTH IT…IMHO anyway :)

  206. saggleo Said,

    #205 – k-ohhh – LMAO!!!! AMEN!!!!

    As for the comment on 33, I think they got confused and meant to say Michael instead of David b/c clearly that asshat has been long gone was no where near a gentleman either!

  207. Trish Said,

    I am wondering if the “Spanish” citizens of Chihuahua, Mexico taught HWMNBN the phrase “Numero Uno”?

  208. barb Said,

    Okay, I listened to the whole interview with “you know who” and I’m amazed at his total recall of every quote he made even though he claims he is not watching the show. Also, he said at the beginning of the interview that he doesnt want to be sued by ABC. Well, guess what????? He said too much and I would think he will be in trouble with the contract he signed with ABC. I don’t know exactly what they sign but I know no one else who has spilled so much information.

    I still think he’s a creep. I am sure he was editing improperly but, guess what, he should have handled himself better.

    I do think I see a different picture of Jake though. It’s very possible that he’s trying to be the next Bachelor.

  209. C List Said,

    Speaking of Melba… Did anyone bother to watch the GMA with him and Molly? Anything interesting to report?

  210. jt Said,

    My favorite part of the interview with HWMNBN, so far, is “I don’t watch reality TV. When I do watch TV, it’s the Discovery Channel or History Channel.” I’m SO SURE.

    I still stand by the fact that Jillian got rid of Wes despite not seeing any of the show. She saw what she saw, and she had her opinions based on that, not what we are seeing now.

  211. jt Said,

    Also, it really gets on my nerves when people (in this case, HWMNBN) feel like they have to preface everything with “Honestly” and “To be honest.” It’s like beginning an insult with “No offense.”

  212. C List Said,

    #203 – Patty – ITA re Reality Steve. He scooped everyone last year, and now acts like he’s the authority on the show. If you don’t believe what he’s selling 100%, then you’re an idiot. I don’t need to be talked down to by some single guy in his 30s who needs validation from a reality show website. I liked him last season, but now he’s as cheeseass to me as HWSNBN or Dave the Drunk (both of whom he seems enamored with). I guarantee you if Lincee got some inside scoop from OHCH, she wouldn’t “talk” to us like we are a bunch of children [my apologies to those greenbeaners who actually are children].

    Anyway…. this show needs to come on Fridays instead on Mondays so I can look forward to the weekend and not the start of the work week!

  213. Shameless Said,

    Ed creeps me out. I don’t like him at all! As others have pointed out, he doesn’t look her in the eyes when he talks. At dinner when they were talking he didn’t look at her almost at ALL. Now, I realize this could be based on nerves, or the cameras, or what have you, but to me it just looked fishy. And his conversation seems so wooden with her. It’s like he’s hiding something (perhaps that girlfriend back home everyone keeps talking about??). I don’t trust him and I don’t like him. But just like with Wes, Jillian’s hormones are leading her to the wrong guy.

    Team REID all the way!

  214. barb Said,

    I just listened to the end of the interview again since I was distracted towards the end before. I’ve heard similar things about other people getting their lives ruined by editing on ABC. That’s pretty sleezy. Obviously Wes has been made out to look much more horrible than he is. Still don’t trust or like the guy but I’m just saying. Not good how much they edited him and not good how Laurel has been treated or his parents. Having said all that this guy is in trouble. ABC is a big company and he’s saying too much. He’s a sitting duck for a lawsuit in my opinion.

    Man, the guys sure is inarticulate!

  215. LoveLincee! Said,

    214: They are ALL inarticulate! The grammar of all of the participants is the worst, and I’m not sure if Polly Pocket knows that the plural of you is not “you guys.” My goodness! At least we have not heard as much about the “amazing qualities” of the guys as we did last season with Jason and his “amazing” girls. Someone needs to buy them all a grammar book AND a thesaurus before filming begins.

  216. Susan C Said,

    #215 Plural for you is Ya’ll.

  217. Kate Said,

    Lincee you are hysterical!!! I look forward to your posts every Tuesday!!!!

  218. Cilantro13 Said,

    I was happy to leave some one star feedback for Wes Hayden on Amazon.com. I encourage others to do the same.

  219. coqui Said,

    I just heard the interview. I’m inclined to believe this interview and believe that it was editing. I think people should take this for what it is ……a show. This is a reality show and the vast majority of people don’t even stay together longer than six months…how much inlove could these people be any way? They may have gone on a reality show but it is wrong to destroy someone’s reputation. The producer’s can change anything they want.

    Everyone has a right to make a living. Laurel is a human being who deserves to be left to work in peace and safety.

    I watch this show the same way I watch Grey’s Anatomy or True Love.

  220. Girl from Spring Said,

    # 201 Jenn

    As Paul Harvey would say “here is the rest of the story”….

    Gig ‘em
    At a yell practice before the 1930 TCU game, A&M board of regent Pinky Downs ‘06 shouted, “What are we going to do to those Horned Frogs?” His muse did not fail him as he improvised, borrowing a term from frog hunting. “Gig ‘em, Aggies!” he said as he made a fist with his thumb extended straight up. And with that the first hand sign in the Southwest Conference came into being.
    [ For a fuller history of the Gig 'em thumb signal, read "Football Hand Signals" by Paul Burka, Texas Monthly ]

    Per the website from TAMU http://aggietraditions.tamu.edu/gigem.shtml

  221. Leslie from Austin Said,

    I agree # 15, everyone knows the plural of “you guys” is Yall!!!!

  222. Leslie from Austin Said,

    I mean #215

  223. Lisa Said,

    #216-hahaha! That was my first thought ,too! I love being from the South, y’all!

  224. Amy Said,

    #209 I saw Melba and Molly. It was a pretty uneventful interview. They are still together and still living in separate cities but see each other almost every weekend.

    Funniest part was when Bill Weir said “Come on out Melissa” and Melba and Molly’s eyes got huge. (Because Melissa now works for GMA) There is prob a clip on GMA’s site but I know Bill Weir posted a clip on his twitter page too. Good stuff!

  225. broady Said,

    The d-bag is gone. Thanks be to God. What a miserable excuse for a man!

    Regarding less greasy and revolting subjects, I also laughed when Jillian told Kiptyn his mom is a “doll.” not the word I would use, either… my word would start with a “b” and end with an i-t-c-h.
    Although I’m sure she’s perfectly lovely in real life, of course.

    Ed– you really talked yourself into that suite, you sly dawg. Bet you didn’t expect to be running your mouth until 7am, though. Hee hee

  226. BacheloretteFan Said,

    Wes’ new interview is pretty telling…

  227. Alicia Said,

    I’m listening to the interview now….as much as I hate to say it – I think he’s being honest. I’ve gone back and watched some of the previous episodes online….it’s obvious it is edited to death. He never says anything bad about anybody…except for Jake – maybe a little – but I think he’s just talking from the heart. Now, would I date him? No. But not because I think he’s a terrible guy, but just because he isn’t my type. But then again – neither is Jake. I think Jake’s coming back was VERY much producer provoked.

    This is a SHOW…it’s not real.

  228. Melanna Said,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FqE4tdDIqw
    Here’s the good morning america interview with Jason and Molly. Boring. But right at the end when they call for Melissa it’s funny.

  229. RM1SW Said,

    In regards to Reality Steve, he comes across leading Wes to answer the way he wants. Steve makes a comment that was kinda mean and there was silence. He asked Wes if he agreed and of course Wes says yes but I think Wes was drifting off, he just might have ADD. Script, no script, edit, no edit, miscontrue or taken out of context when you sign your name on the dotted line you are giving permission to someone else to use what you say and your image to suite their needs.

    Take this show for what it is, a step out of your own reality into some one elses. Then turn off the tv and wait for Lincee’s great recaps!

  230. C List Said,

    Oh WTH is wrong with me? I listened to the whole HWSNBN interview. I even took notes. While I think he was telling the truth about some things, I think he still lied about a lot. For one thing, he was REALLY inconsistent about a lot of stuff. “I wasn’t affectionate in Spain cuz I wasn’t comfortable.” Then a minute later, “They didn’t show you how affectionate we were being in Spain.” then a minute later, “Jillian called me out for not being affectionate, but I told her she wasn’t either.” Then a minute later, “They didn’t show us holding hands and kissing all throughout dinner.”. All the ping ponging gave me a headache!!! There are way too many examples of him explaining things one way only to give a completely different answer later.

    I believe him when he says they would only play the middle part of things he said. I believe they prevented his family from eating while the whole Jake standoff took place. I believe he was drunk, and they drove around in circles during his limo interview. I believe all the guys talked about how they hadn’t had sex in so long (hey, they’re guys). But I do not believe, based on how inconsistent he was in this interview alone (and how inconsistent it was in parts with the one he gave the radio station yesterday) that he’s just a good guy who got a bad edit. I think he’s a guy who makes jokes he thinks are funny, but which come at inappropriate times, a guy who thought he’d be able to exploit this opportunity for fame, a guy who thinks he’s cuter and slicker than he is, and a guy who is used to people believing whatever spin he wants to put in things. I think the producers probably picked up on the fact that he was a famewh0re and a clown early on, and they ran with it. I’m sure he had NO problems doing whatever it was they asked until he finally caught on and realized “Hmm, that might not come off well.”

    oh, and I do believe him that Jake is gunning to be the next Bach. I’ve been saying that since early on. I see it now: “The Bachelor: On the Wings of Love.”

  231. Saggleo Said,

    #228 – Melanna – Nice! Jason’s face froze! I love how he just said…they approached Molly to do the Bachelorette…then they approached Melissa! Just confirms these dudes were picked for her first! As most had speculated.

  232. barb Said,

    Dear C List, you pretty much nailed it. It’s sad but many of these people know the ropes now and are going on this show to become the next Bachelor/Bachelorette. I don’t know why we continue to watch but its like a train wreck that you can’t resist.

  233. barb Said,

    I watched the interview with Jason and Molly. She looks stunning.

  234. Drew Said,

    #231 Sag– do you mean the guys were picked for Molly? I just trying to picture the country club princess with Voldemort. . . :)

  235. jt Said,

    Another thing that bothered me about the interview was how Wes claimed he didn’t know what Jillian looked like or who she was until just a couple days before he came on the show. I like the idea of the “contestants” knowing who they are coming on the show for, so at least they have an inkling of whether they think they might be compatible with this person. Of course, if they were originally picked for Melissa or Molly, I guess that’s all out the window. It just seems like if the guys know who they are competing for, at least the bachelorette could feel like they came knowing that she was going to be there, and they already liked what they saw based on the last season.

  236. Melanna Said,

    I wonder if Jill knew she was the THIRD choice to be the Bachelorette? And if she did, if she cared. And I wonder if Molly had said yes, but then with the Jason thing, changed her mind so they asked Melissa.
    Also, I prefer Molly’s hair dark. And her eyeliner was helping her eyes look less bug-eyed.

    I really hope they get some fresh people and quit using the rejects. That was fun once, and now its just so overdone. The people we like we end up getting annoyed at when they’re the bach/ette. And it just makes for so many weird connections. I mean Brad/DDeawna/Melba/Jilly. All connected and dating each other. That’s weird. They shouldn’t make that list longer.

  237. Saggleo Said,

    #234 – Drew – Sorry, I meant Melissa but now that you said that..could be either or. They are very close in age if not the same age.

    I still call b.s. on he shall not be named and what not. All of sudden now b/c he says he was edited wrong it’s true. oh puhlease. Again they only use what you give them and he came on there with a clear intent to further himself and if he’s supposedly telling the truth now as some seem to believe (not me) then he sold his sold to he devil and got what he was asking for! Again…cry a river all you want not buying your crap. You were smarmy w/o the edit!

  238. hnygrl Said,

    Saggelo, I so agree with you!!!

    The producers can only use what you GIVE them dude. You said it. You meant it. You just didn’t expect it to be edited the way it was. You thought they would edit you as the good ole boy singin’ cowboy with the off-center sense of humor. Not as the cheese-ass you really are.

    Sheesh. This guy is so slick and oily you could run your car off him for a month.

    I ain’t buyin’ the “they edited me bad…I’m really a sweetheart of a guy” bull hockey.

  239. Marus Said,

    **********NOT REALLY A SPOILER but SPECULATION ALERT**********

    Just covering my bases, Beaners…

    I just saw the preview for the next episode… i think it’s Ed (whoever it is looks like their complexion is darker than reid – also looks like a bigger dude) with the problems… and based on the positions when she gets off him, it just looks like they aren’t feeling it… not that it’s ED.

    My guess is that she thinks she’s super hot for Ed, but it tuns out there’s actually no chemistry between them

  240. missz Said,

    lincee i have been a fan since you first started the recaps and they are better than the show, congrats on your success with the blog. HWSNBN is a pig – had him pegged from the beginning, as I am sure anyone who watches the show did..what an emotional cripple! Like Ed but love Reid. …will you be blogging about “lots to love” on fox??

  241. mothercita Said,

    I always wonder what the HECK Jillian is talking about when she goes on and on about how Reid is not her type, blah blah blah. What “type” exactly is he? Then I figured it out–he’s the AWESOME type and the others are just sub-par!! I’m sorry, Ed and Kip are hunky, but Reid is REAL! AND hunky!!! Have you noticed there has been no mention of a “leap of faith” or “being in it for the right reasons” or any of the other items on Jill’s checklist when they are together? Just natural, precious and darling, real conversation–flirty and fun. And with a camera in their faces! Reid is the most “at-ease” and comfortable dude in bachelor history. I almost feel like I’m intruding on an actual couple. He’s the cutest thing ever.

    I love all of the grammar police in the house! Can’t remember the context, but Monday night our Polly Pocket kept saying,”…..fall in love for..” instead of “fall in love WITH”. And, yes, she does look cute in the little short skirts, but do ya really think they’re scooter/piggy-back friendly??

  242. Ashley Said,

    Melanna I couldn’t agree with you more!!! I am OVER the rejects being the next one…give us some new blood!! Speaking of…whatever happened to the comment that was made in the beginning of ‘he just wants to be the next bachelor.’ Who said that and who were they referring to!? I think that is why we are so bored with grammar challenged Jillian…she was third choice…and I agree with others. She is on a serious mission to get engaged regardless. I agree with what someone else said that I bet one proposes but she wants the other that isn’t ready to propose…and then they can ‘date’ for a while and have a later proposal…I AM OVER HER!!!!

  243. Marus Said,

    #241 – mothercita Said,
    I always wonder what the HECK Jillian is talking about when she goes on and on about how Reid is not her type, blah blah blah. What “type” exactly is he? Then I figured it out–he’s the AWESOME type and the others are just sub-par!!

    mothercita, don’t you remember that guy from the beginning, “maybe she doesn’t like awesome guys”.

    HAHAHA! Thanks for reminding me of that! :)

  244. mothercita Said,

    OMG, I DO remember one of them saying that! Somebody please remind me which one it was–I think he was one of the first ones to go. :)

  245. Marus Said,

    #244 it was either the fitness model or that guy from new york… i think it was stephen from NY. haha, maybe she doesn’t like awesome guys…. :P

  246. Juno Said,

    I think it was that Bilbro guy who got booted on the first night. But I DVR’d that episode, so I can check and see. I’ll report back.

  247. C List Said,

    It was Stephen, the brand new attorney from New York who said maybe she just doesn’t like awesome guys. It was at that moment I decided she should have kept him… Even if his head was too big for his body

  248. saggleo Said,

    #247 – C List!!! LMAO!! I almost choked on my bagel! So True!!!!

  249. Alicia Said,

    Yes, it was Stephen from New York. I watched the premiere episode online the other night..I know, I am WAY too involved in this show! Stephen is Bob Sagget made over…just not quite as cute. But he was very funny and intriguing….kinda wish she had kept him around for a week or two for entertainment.

    Bilbro was the little short guy who had the break-dancing faceoff wtih Michael. I wasn’t nearly as impressed with him as he was.

  250. Juno Said,

    Oh yes, you guys are absolutely correct. The lawyer whose sense of humor was just a little too dry for most. He was pretty funny. The Bilbro guy was just self-involved and not in an amusing way.

  251. MyAwesomeness Said,

    News about Kip: In late-June Kip was photographed at the Switchfoot charity event, which Kip co-directed and raised $93,000 for “Stand Up for Kids”.

    He is not getting a great edit yet on the show…but he must be a pretty decent guy.

  252. saggleo Said,

    #251 – MyAwesomeness – I thinik Kip’s edit has been pretty good considering most. That’s pretty cool about the charity. I dig hot men….have I said that lately?!?! LOL

  253. jt Said,

    I watched the preview of Jillian and Kip’s “ropes course” date in Hawaii, and he seemed really encouraging and supportive. I think you are right about him being a good guy, #251. Although I haven’t seen anything on the show that would suggest otherwise. Just kind of blah.

  254. houstonlawyer Said,

    I listened to the Reality Steve interview with Wes. I believe the Wes storyline we saw was created by the producers, and I think most of the inflammatory remarks we heard were edited out of context. However, I still think he came on the show for the exposure (probably no different than some of the other guys), and I don’t think he was truthful with RS in that respect. I also still think he’s a little arrogant and could be manipulative. What I’m curious about the connection between Wes, Laurel and Brad Womack. I just wonder, did the producers allowed Laurel to become an object of ridicule because they blame her as the reason that Brad didn’t choose anyone at the end of his season?

  255. Rachel Said,

    I just watched the end of the GMA interview with Jason and Molly. I didn’t really care what they had to say and just fast forwarded to the end so I can see them say “Come on out Melissa”. Jason’s face-priceless. Molly just laughed but Jason peed himself a little. Tooo funny.

    And who cares about this great debate of whether Wes was edited or not. They didn’t edit how he talked (ie- the stupid sayings and ignorant speech), they didn’t edit his greasy, unkept apperance, and they certainly didn’t edit him to sing his stupid song and promote his band non-stop. Sorry- I can spot a douche from a mile away and this guy has DB written alllll over him!

  256. saggleo Said,

    #255- Rachel – So true….his reaction was priceless! Even if Melissa was there I don’t think she would have come out. She wouldn’t give them the satisfaction nor entertain that sh*t! I know I wouldn’t if I were her.

  257. Aliya Said,

    I have to say I didnt exactly like Wes but you gals are being awfully hard on him. I do believe alot of what he said was edited and taken out of context. Has anyone checked out Wes’ recent interview with reality steve. (www.realitysteve.com)

    I’m not saying thats what sold me but I do think the guy needs to be given a (fair) break.

  258. houstonlawyer Said,

    I just watched the GMA interview with Jason and Molly. Seeing Jason again reminds me of how much his phony puppy dog grin grated my nerves. What if you had to choose b/w Jason and Wes? Cowardice vs. arrogance. That would be really tough. I might choose Wes for entertainment value, but I would want him dipped in disinfectant.

  259. Alicia Said,

    #257 Aliya – I agree. He wasn’t my type at all….but I find it unsettling that he is being hated on by so many people. We here say snide remarks about everybody…I am just as guilty as the next one. But they (he and Laurel and his family) are getting phone calls in the middle of the night and being sent nasty e-mails, and are being approached in public. etc. I personally don’t think he’s dating Laurel…but he probably does care about her. Heck, I have a few ex’s out there that I care about too. What he was upset about more than anything being said or done to him was the backlash that Laurel has received from all of this mess. He agreed….he signed on for this show – no matter how they portray him – but she didn’t. Good grief – folks are hating them more than they hate the Goslin’s these days!

    I had lunch with a girlfriend yesterday who also watches the show…she’s just not quiet as dedicated as I am…LOL!! Anyway, we were discussing the show, and she said “But he SAID that!” And, I had to give her a little lesson on EDITING!! And the light bulb came on…and said – “OHHHH – WOW!!”

  260. Kimberly Said,

    I will give Wes a break if one of the guys defends him on MTA (someone other than Dave the drunk).

  261. daisy Said,

    Michael defended him in an interview.

  262. TX QP Said,

    Mikey Mike said in his post-exit interview that Wus is getting a bad edit. However, Jake said that Wus is being accurately portrayed. Whom shall we believe? It sounds as if Wus is obligated to attend MTA (put those shackles back on … click click click click click), and I can’t wait to see how it goes.

    Lincee, I keep rereading your recap. It gets funnier every time! You certainly have the gift.

  263. Rachel Said,

    259- I would hope that ALL of the people on here bashing Wes aren’t psychos. I mean really, to call someone at their house or send hate mail- you have to be certifiably nuts. I, for one, do not care about him that much. I think he’s a douche and no editing excuse is going to convince me otherwise. He just has that slimy look about him.

  264. Addicted Said,

    In reference to #237…I agree that they picked this group of bachelors with Melissa in mind but not that it could have been her or Molly. There have never been this many guys from Texas on there and since Melissa is from Dallas it makes sense these guys were meant for her to be the bach-ette.

  265. junoesq Said,

    Weren’t both Reid and Ed in the “extra” five that got thrown in at the first cocktail party? If so, we’ve got to give the screening process more credit for being able to identify a potentially good match than I’ve given them so far. 2 of the 5 chosen for Jillian and 1 of the 25 not, are the ones who make it to the final 3 – not bad.

  266. Alicia Said,

    #265 – Yes, the “extra” five were Ed, Reid, Fetish, Mike (baseball guy) and one other dude…..she chose 4 outa 5 of those guys.

  267. kit Said,

    #231 – i don’t think the bachelors were picked for melissa. maybe for molly to a point. the reason i don’t think they were for melissa is because there were several guys from dallas, and many more from texas. wouldn’t that make for a boring hometown date if you went to the same place you were from? just my thought. if they weren’t picked for jillian, i could see them being picked for molly. she was the youngest out of the final three, so that could explain why there were a lot of younger guys in the mix this time. again, just my thoughts.

  268. Amy Smith Said,

    After this episode, I have to say that if she doesn’t pick Reid she is a crazy aimless fool. That is the only relationship that looks and feels real. That said, I can’t blame her for wanting to make out with Ed for a night. Gee whiz, that man is fine.

  269. kit Said,

    #260, #261, and #262 – what i read from michael’s interview was that he’d never heard the stuff about a girlfriend and things like that. he said he didn’t know, and that maybe dusty dinkelman was getting a bad edit, but from his interaction with dusty, he never saw or heard those things. i don’t think that necessarily means he saw/heard evidence to the contrary.

    and #257 – i am in the video editing business, and yes, things can be strung together with editing. but what you can’t edit is body language. during several of the things we see dusty actually say, his body language is saying he’s not telling the truth, at least not the entire truth. maybe he’s not quite as bad as they portray him, but it’s not the easiest thing to do to take a perfectly nice person and turn them into the spawn of satan.

    while i was never a fan of dusty dinkleman, i do not think it’s right to be harassing him and laurel, calling in the middle of the night. if you’re standing outside one of his shows yelling (or throwing rotten tomatoes *wink*), that’s one thing. that’s a boycott. but to go to someone’s home and mess with them is just too far.

  270. allison Said,

    My take on the boys remaining-

    Kip- Has a good heart, but will never be able to let himself be vulnerable. He could still make a good husband/father for someone, but Jillian is definitely in need of a man who wears his heart (and his adoration for her) on his sleeve!

    Ed- Not a bad guy, but needs some maturing. Wonder if he was really that into Jill or if ABC just offered him a bunch of cash to come back.

    Reid- Just what she needs. Sure he’s a little neurotic and “safe” for our adventurous Jillian, but he’s the total package and there aren’t any issues there that a good marriage counselor can’t help them work through! What a cutie! He should have been snapped up a long time ago, but alas, the nice guys always finish last.

  271. C List Said,

    ITA with everyone who says you have to be nuts to call someone’s house or go there and harrass them. But as far as bashing HWSNBN on this or any other board, well, he knew what he signed up for. He’s just such an arrogant ass that it never occurred to him that HE would be the one to come off bad.

    Houstonlawyer – That’s an interesting theory about Laurel. You’re probably right that ABC didn’t mind letting her get dragged through the mud if they blame her for Brad’s F0 decision. But, of course, that depends on whether they knew about her at all. I’ve also always wondered if Laurel was the one who talked HWSNBN into doing the show — that is, assuming they were really broken up. Girls were flocking to HTC Brad’s club after he was the Bach. It had to be good for business. If Laurel was dating him then, she had to see that. She probably thought it would be good for his career too. Of course, that would be ignoring the fact that HTC Brad is yummy, and HWSNBN is not…

    Also what irks me – HWSNBN keeps mentioning that if he was doing this for his career, he could have just gone on Nashville Star or American Idol. But he couldn’t, and I think he knows this. He’s too damn old for AI. I don’t know about age limits on NS, but the competition would be too heavy. His sound is already a dime a dozen here in Texas, and he’s not that great looking. He could never go in a forum where he could compete with other county singers. I think he knows this and is just banking on us not being smart enough to pick up on this.

    Sigh…. Enough about him.

    Is anyone else going to be really mad if the next season of this show is just another recycle. Please don’t let the Bach be one of Jilly’s rejects — I don’t care who it is!!! Is ABC trying to go green by recycling these people over and over??

  272. Marus Said,

    has anyone noticed the ads for people to nominate the next bachelor during the show? that gives me hope for future seasons…

    gack… i used to boycott this show (the idea in general, and the fact that all the women were SO YOUNG and seemed to be freaking out that they weren’t’ married yet)… then, by chance, i found lincee’s blog a few episodes into the jason season and got completely sucked in. Thanks Lincee… and Beaners. You are all to blame ;-)

  273. allison Said,

    I just listed to the interview with Wes becuase I was overwhelmingly curious and I have to say, I do think Wes was given really bad, unfair, and slanderous editing. Like way over the line. I still don’t think he’s someone I’d want my daughter to date, but probably not the pig they made him out to be! I actually feel bad for the guy after hearing his side.

  274. Jennifer Said,

    Haven’t seen this addressed yet about Wes’s RS interview…did Wes say anything about his limo interview and the having-a-girlfriend comment? It sure didn’t look like editing when he bragged about being the first bachelor to make it to the Final 4 with a girlfriend. I’d genuinely like to hear about that from the Wes-got-a-bad-rap defenders. Also, it didn’t look like editing when Jake was in the hotel room confronting Wes, and Wes made the mocking remark about Jake praying to God…that was not just rude, it was downright cruel.

    Yes undoubtedly there was editing that portrayed Wes unfairly/unflatteringly. But there were enough disrespectful/a**hole things that he legitimately said on his own…it’s a very clever tactic to divert people’s minds off what he really did say, by focusing instead on the misrepresentations.

    And for all you grammar-fixaters, please give it a rest! These daters are not giving public presentations, or writing a paper…they’re just talking in a relaxed way. That’s what casual conversation is… a time when a preposition is OK to end a sentence with (for whoever gets that reference). I’m probably one of the biggest grammar-fixaters ever, but only when the “target” is right…not when it would mean eight weeks of the participants’ constantly being on-guard in every conversation to ensure the correct use of “fewer” versus “less”, and when to say “Reid and I” versus “Reid and me”.

  275. Steph Said,

    274 – I think he did talk about the issues you raise in your first paragraph. I didn’t listen to it, but someone on FORT gave a detailed breakdown of what he said.

    You thought Wes was bad…wait until you hear the stuff about one of the final 3…and it’s not Kiptyn or Reid…

  276. Vivi Said,

    After listening to the Wes interview, my feelings are mixed. I never did believe the girlfriend rumor and still don’t, but Wes now insisting promotion had nothing to do with his decision for going on the show is a huge stretch.

    Anyway, there is a reason Wes received the edit he did — the man talks too much.

    Frankly, I am surprised at much of what he did relay during the interview, such as … Yes, he did make the sex comment during the RC. Yes, he did say first in Bach/ette history to make it to the F4 with a girlfriend, and, yes, he was referring to himself. Granted pesented out of context, but come on …

  277. Shopgirl Said,

    #272: Marus: Don’t get too excited about the ads for nominating the next Bachelor/ette. They run them every season and still recycle.

  278. Saggleo Said,

    #267 – kit Said,
    “#231 – i don’t think the bachelors were picked for melissa. maybe for molly to a point. the reason i don’t think they were for melissa is because there were several guys from dallas, and many more from texas. wouldn’t that make for a boring hometown date if you went to the same place you were from? just my thought. if they weren’t picked for jillian, i could see them being picked for molly. she was the youngest out of the final three, so that could explain why there were a lot of younger guys in the mix this time. again, just my thoughts.”

    I respectfully disagree. If you LOVE where you are from…and you find a guy that’s there too…it’s easier to date if they are the chosen one! I’m in Chicago and trust me…I think my city freaking ROCKS! Molly and Melissa were the same age if not only a year apart so it’s not a stretch that they had Melissa in mind. She was more friendly in my opinion. I didn’t like how Molly came off on the show…still kind of don’t now, but I don’t have to live with her or any of these people but just my opinion.

  279. jt Said,

    #275 Steph please don’t tell us…we don’t want to know!

    #278 I agree, and they probably also ask the Bachelorette if she’d be willing to move, and if she says no, they might try to find more people in her area (or contestants that are willing to relocate).

    As far as the commercials asking for the next bachelor or bachelorette nominations…does anyone know if this is how people end up being contestants on the show? Like, someone will nominate Reid to be the next bachelor, and then he ends up being a contestant on Jillian’s season? Or is there a different process for that?

  280. Saggleo Said,

    #279 – jt – I have no clue but I can’t tell you how many times I’ve thought about nominating myself! LOL Man would that be entertaining! I think there is a open call or something that’s done and you go down to get cast on it as a contestant (to be one of the chosen). I remember seeing something in a paper or whatever advertising an open call here in Chicago. It was on a Thursday…I was half tempted to go.

  281. Aliya Said,

    You need to check out Wes’ final interview in the car going home, on theAC website. He DOES NOT look like the ass that they portrayed him to be. He actually sounds sensible!

    http://abc.go.com/primetime/bachelorette/index?pn=index

  282. Alicia Said,

    Wes said in the other interview that what was aired was “I’m the only guy in Bachelorette history to make it to the final four with a girlfriend….” But what they cut off was the rest of this sentence, which was “…..come on – if I had a girlfriend – I’d be at home with her right now!”

  283. AliceMD Said,

    Wow. I finally watched the episode. I have been so upset reading everyone’s comments about Ed and the “look-away” factor thinking that he is shifty or bad…but NO! I still love him! Let me first say that even my best friend has been assuring me that I would totally be on team Reid after this episode…and while he had me grinning and REALLY liking him, I was glued to the screen when Ed appeared. I am so with Jillian on this one. Honestly, you can tell that he is embarrassed/worried about the whole going away thing. Every single time that he mentions it or she brings it up, he looks away and looks truly nervous. I think he really is nervous about how that is affecting him compared to everyone else and he doesn’t want to be the loser that comes back to the show because he really likes her, only to have that repeated over and over in his face, and then be slammed by how much she is closer to the other guys. (long sentence…) His statement about it feeling like he had to totally start over is telling – He is nervous! He is a confident guy, but this has to make him unsure about how she feels now. When they were smiling and talking about other things…look at his eyes. He is totally into her. And when he got the rose, he was totally grinning. When they are physically close they are both so giddy, and she doesn’t really even look at him too much. I think that next week we’ll see more confidence from him and hopefully fewer mentions about how he lost time.

    That said… My main comment about this episode was on the HWMNBN date. They had this HUGE plate of great food in front of them, and they were too busy & upset talking to eat!! EAT THE FOOD FIRST JILLIAN!!! THEN you can talk. I would be so hungry after these dates I’d have to have room service later. Honestly! :-)

  284. Alicia Said,

    I just heard this radio interview with Jillian just after they finished taping….makes me wonder if she pulls a Womack and chooses noone???!!!!

    http://vancouver.virginradio.ca/player/ondemand/27626/1

  285. Lyn Said,

    #284I don’t think Jillian would be saying that she hopes we love the ending knowing that she didn’t pick anyone. At the end when the interviewer asks her if she will come back on the show after she picks her guy, Jilly says that she would love to.

  286. old fan Said,

    agreed, #285. She says she hopes we’re ecstatic about the ending….. sure sounds like she’s picked someone! hope it’s reid !

  287. Aliya Said,

    Alicia # 284, I have to agree. I have a feeling she doesn’t choose anyone OR that she chooses Kip but there’s no proposal – they just date and see where it goes.

  288. C List Said,

    I’ve also been leaning toward the theory that she picks no one or keeps dating the guy. I’m going to say she keeps dating either Reid or Ed. Or maybe she realizes she’s really insecure right now and too busy seeking the validation of men, so she needs to choose Jillian until she works on those issues. Either way, I just don’t think it’s Kip. They focused on him too much, so I think he’s a red herring. F2 maybe, but definitely not F1… Assuming there IS a F1.

  289. Lori Said,

    Ruthie #3 – yes, the grammar is horrible! I edit (yelling at the TV) everytime she says “Him and I” – seriously feel like I’m correcting my kids again!

    Did anyone notice that when Cheese Ass mentioned having sex at the rose ceremony, that Reid and Kip looked at him in disgust and Ed smiled? Not sure if it was a “what a jerk” smile, or if he actually thought it was funny…

    Team Reid – all the way!!

  290. AliceMD Said,

    #289 Lori, based on what Ed has seen of HWMNBN, I’m pretty sure it was a nervous “Yea, right – I can’t believe you just said that…” kindof laugh. Remember that Ed has not been there for the last two weeks to hear HWMNBN open up more. (i.e. train date when he was saying how many episodes that he’d already been on, that he has Jillian wrapped around his finger, etc…) He also was apparently not involved in the “D-bag has a girlfriend” scandal that Jake and Tanner were creating/hearing. His interaction with HWMNBN was very limited, and disdainful… On one episode when HWMNBN and Jillian were outside and the guys were watching them through a window, Ed called him a “Country-singing turd” or something else as flattering. He is no fan of HWMNBN, nor was he ever buddy-buddy with him…He seems like he’s just sort of a joke to Ed.

    Reid and Kip have both had more opportunity and interaction with him on group dates/ceremonies while HWMNBN was gone, so they know all about his intentions. They are probably mad at him for even being there…Thus the looks of disgust.

  291. AliceMD Said,

    Oops, I meant that Reid and Kip have had more interaction with him while Ed was gone…

    At any rate, I do really like all 3 guys. Can’t wait for tonight!! :-)

  292. Marus Said,

    For all Jillian’s concerns about Reid not sharing his feelings and saying her loves her… Didn’t jason have similar concerns about her last season?

  293. Kimberly Said,

    #292 – that is a good call. She definitely held back last season. What normal person wouldn’t when you’re dating someone that is also dating other people?

  294. Alicia Said,

    #289 – 290 – I truly believe those looks were really edited and were probably out of sequence. What we saw was very choppy. They very likely had nothing to do with what Wes was saying. I’ve been to the movies before where I had seen the previews and thought I knew what was coming up. It turns out there was a five minute lapse in dialog before that “look” came up. I really like all three of the remaining guys in different ways. I have no idea who she chooses…it could be anyone. We can only base our opinions on what they show us…which is not a whole lot!!

  295. Lori Said,

    Wes was unfairly edited while the others not so much. But I still don’t like Wes because he continues to use incorrect grammar. Just saying.

  296. Schmoopy Said,

    I haven’t read the posts since last week but I’ve come up with an idea. Reid won’t sleep with her b/c he knows she is sleeping with the others? What do y’all think. It’s about to happen right now… We’ll see…

  297. Schmoopy Said,

    I put the question mark in the wrong spot. oh well…

    I’m getting sick of jilly bean asking the guys how much they like her. I know it’s part of her decision but it just seems too needy for me. Has she never had a boyfriend? I mean, can’t you just tell when someone is digging you?

  298. MaggieMay Said,

    From the previews I think it is the overnight with Ed that bombs bigger than Hiroshima. Would I be a horrible awful nasty person if I hope she bounces Ed tonight? I mean Saggleo and I have a plan and a key part of that plan means Ed is not with Jillian LOL :-D

    Oh and that ropes course was just nasty. I wouldn’t have had the nerve to do ONE of the challenges let alone all of them.

  299. Karen Said,

    Reid is toast……so sad. I am SO sick of Polly Pocket wearing yellow.

  300. Lori Said,

    OMG i think it is Ed with ED. Go Reid!!! He is so maybe not toast?!?!?!

  301. MaggieMay Said,

    Well they were in a hot “tub” aka bubble bath. You know it had to happen.

  302. Schmoopy Said,

    I heart Reid…. He seems very sincere.

  303. MaggieMay Said,

    I’m thinking Reid is the dark horse. She picks him at the end and he “freaks”. It pains me to say Ed’s done. I wonder if he’s the one “coming back out of the shadows”. He’s done it before. Does he do it at the FRC too? Just sayin.

  304. Lori Said,

    I heart Reid too! I hope she does not scare him away with all the begging for the “L” word when it so obvious it is not a word he throws around unless he means it.

  305. Karen Said,

    Well, if Ed doesn’t get picked; at least he can have a vacation with his parents….

  306. Marus Said,

    i have to say, i heart reid even more for refusing to say something he’s not ready to yet, just to stay in the game.

    I do not like men who wear tank tops. I can forgive the tiny bathing suit… not the tank top. I don’t know where Ed hangs out in Chicago, where “men wearng tank tops” is cool. obviously, nowhere i also hang out…

  307. Karen Said,

    Ed’s parents seem very uncomfortable……

  308. Lori Said,

    OMG Big Ed is crying.

  309. Marus Said,

    Karen #307 –

    Yeah, they don’t really seem down with the whole situation…

    We’re kinda private here in the midwest… i can see why, if they are from Illinois too, why they would be uncomfortable.

  310. Marus Said,

    PS: does ed strike anyone else as someone who’s been kind of the “nerd” most of his life, and only recently discovered his hotness? And is still pretty much the nerdy kid on the inside? Not in a bad way necessarily… that’s just the vibe i get from him.

  311. Erin Said,

    ,,,, ok… lets talk about the shorts… ED… what were you thinking??? Also 306 I agree… the tank top was not a good look. But even with all of that, I still love Ed!

  312. Karen Said,

    I love ed, but he just smelled his armpit on television.

  313. Lori Said,

    Soft porn..i can’t look…cringe factor. Maybe Ed’s parent’s are next door. Gee maybe the CAMERAS!

  314. Erin Said,

    … um… so… akward. One… Jillian was ready to go… Two… Ed could not rise to the occasion? And the fact that was all on TV… wow…. :S

  315. Drew Said,

    Something seems really fishy about this Ed ED thing. Wouldn’t the camera be gone long before he needed to perform?

    And I was screaming PINAPPLE by the time they got to the hot oil. . .

  316. old fan Said,

    I’m sorry, Ed’s outfit was so bad! the tank top in blue(s)!! The green short shorts from the 1970s. Yes, Marus #310, he absolutely was a nerd and forgot to change his wardrobe when he got hot !!!

  317. Schmoopy Said,

    #310 – yes I totally get the feeling that Ed could be a former nerd.

    I think he probably would have felt more relaxed if Jilly Bean hadn’t gone all “Shannon Tweed” on him. Settle down girl – let him initiate some of the moves. He probably felt like he was in a movie all the sudden and it was a little overwhelming…. He’s going to love seeing this on television tonight.

    I don’t care I still heart Ed too. Reid and Ed are definitely the ones that like her the most. I think Kippy could take her or leave her. He likes her for the moment but when the show is over he will be back home in San Diego checking out the local girls!

  318. Annie Belle Said,

    That was awful! I’ve found every pillow in the house to hide behind, screamed pineapple and still am just too uncomfortable! And the shorts . . .no. Just no.

  319. Karen Said,

    Rather than getting the oil out with Ed, she should have gotten the clippers. Manscaping my friend. Important stuff….

  320. Marus Said,

    seriously, if she calls that thing a totem pole one more time, i’m going to throw something.

  321. Catherine Avril Morris Said,

    #312 Karen — I saw that too!!! Couldn’t believe it! Hahahah!

    And that sure did look like an ED situation… WHY were the cameras still there? Totally weird.

    Also totally weird to me that Jillian wore that nipple-skimming shirt and nothing else. Hell yeah, Ed was nervous. They’ve hung out for like 2 hours total!

  322. Lori Said,

    Ed needed to yell Pineapple!!

  323. MaggieMay Said,

    Oh oh .. if previous seasons hold true – Ed’s done. Anyone who drops the L bomb in the video usually goes.

  324. Austin-ite Said,

    When we were little kids, my sister and our friends would watch Dark Shadows reruns every afternoon on tv. We were so scared of the vampire,Barnabus Collins, and all the spooky stuff, that we would put our hands in front of our faces, peek out and scream when we saw something frightening.

    I’m now in my 40’s and I’m screaming like a little kid watching Jilly try to ride Ed … or as I say, ‘pulling a Molly’. I forgot my safeword pineapple in the heat of the moment and just shreiked ‘Barnabus’ instead.

  325. Marus Said,

    oh…. i’m totally team reid… but i feel so bad for ed… i hope she doesn’t send him home. My beau is my ed… super hot, but totally an awkward nerd on the inside. send kippy home, he can take it. Plus, he said, “let’s do this”. that bugs.

  326. My Life on the C List Said,

    isn’t the whole point of the fantasy dates to be without cameras?? this had to have been a setup. scripted or something, right? or completely spliced together in the editing room? like they were really just sunburned and tired, and that was it?

  327. My Life on the C List Said,

    btw, i <3 nerds

  328. MaggieMay Said,

    So much for my trip to Chicago….

  329. C List Said,

    MaggieMay, there’s still next week…

  330. MaggieMay Said,

    Aw C List – thanks! Plus he would really need someone to comfort him if he got turfed then. (God I sound like Stalker Shannon). LOL

  331. Schmoopy Said,

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo

  332. Lori Said,

    is reid going?

  333. Lori Said,

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO she is an idiot.

  334. Marus Said,

    NOOOO! Stupid, STUPID girl!!!!

  335. MaggieMay Said,

    Unless they pull a “Pam dreamed the whole thing” yes he is.

  336. C List Said,

    After the editing job they did on the fantasy suite, he’s going to need a lot of comforting.

    I cannot log into FORT right now. :(

    BTW, hated Kipton’s shoes

  337. Marus Said,

    wait… what is she saying? why did she let him go then? she’s an insecure moron.

  338. Lori Said,

    is he maybe coming back to propose????

  339. Renee Said,

    Jillian is a complete idiot.

  340. Schmoopy Said,

    Sorry, but I’m by myself and I had to scream….

  341. Tikibabe Said,

    WHAT AN IDIOT!!!! she should have chosen reid.

    i loved reid— SHE WAS SO MUCH BETTER WITH HIM.

  342. Marus Said,

    what was that saying that Jilly has been saying forever? Something about a leap… and faith? i can’t quite put my finger on it… hmm. must not have been important.

  343. Tikibabe Said,

    she should have let kiptyn go.

  344. MaggieMay Said,

    I already know he likes Cdn girls and I’m a Cubs fan – I can do it!! :-D

    Oh and I vote for no Wes next week at the MTA (and I’ll be surrised if Dave shows up too).

  345. Lori Said,

    341—she so was.

  346. Lori Said,

    they even use the wrong pronouns together!!!

  347. Erin Said,

    If only Reid had dropped the ‘L’ bombs before the limo. If he had even given a slight indication I think Reid would still be there

  348. Renee Said,

    Reid says “her and I” just like she says “him and I?” What could be more perfect? This is the first time I’ve ever cared about a Bach couple and I’m surprised at how upset I am.

  349. Schmoopy Said,

    Don’t worry Reid – she’s not the one for you.

    She’ll pick Kipton and he’ll probably break her heart before the last episode is even over.

  350. M Said,

    watching kip kiss makes me kind of sick..not looking forward to another week of awkward makeout sessions between the two of them..

  351. Erin Said,

    … wait… could Reid pull a Jake and come back??? Maybe on the last episode? Thoughts?

  352. C List Said,

    Reid rocks. There are probably hundreds of chicks on his website as we speak sending him devotions of love (instead of bids on houses).

  353. old fan Said,

    West Coast spoiler alert – NO, say it isn’t so!! Why Ed if no chemistry??

  354. Drew Said,

    My increasingly looney theory of what happens (based on litle to no evidence):

    1. Ed mentions “external factors” to explain away his ED problem.
    2. The promos discuss a “confession” and an earlier promo said someone will be coming back to propose.

    So the Most Dramatic Finale Ever:
    1. Jilly dumps Kipper
    2. Ed fesses up that he had a gf and after much thought, she decides she can’t be with a cheat and ditches him too.
    3. At her most distraught moment, Reid comes back, bears his heart, and they get married by the helo pilot.

  355. old fan Said,

    It doesn’t look like anyone comes back, does it? looks like she learns something bad about one of them. Maybe those rumors about Ed having a girlfriend?

  356. Steph Said,

    It sure looked they had chemisty to me. I mean come on!!

  357. C List Said,

    Does anyone really truly care to see an update about Jason & Molly at the MTA? I mean, didn’t thyey already do that??

    And were there really MORE clips of Dave losing his &#^$???

  358. old fan Said,

    Drew #354 I love your scenario !!

  359. Claiborne Said,

    My husband and I were speculating . . . .maybe the big confession mentioned in the previews has to do with Ed leaving the show for “work.” What if he really went back to Chicago to break up with a girlfriend? Maybe he has a kid or ex-wife. Not that those would be deal breakers- but those would be big confessions this late in the game. I have a bad feeling- and it is coming from Ed’s direction.

    I hope Reid comes back, proposes, and she accepts. My husband (very vocal during this episode) says, “If he comes back, this is not a reality show- it is a soap opera.” Well, that is very true but still completely possible.

  360. Marus Said,

    It’s just sad when marriage is more important to someone than love… :(

  361. MaggieMay Said,

    Drew #354 – suppose it wasn’t just his job he had to go back and deal with. He dumps the gf & comes back. He confesses this to Jillian and it’s the last straw.

    You could be right – Ed came to comfort Jilli after she sent Reid away. Turnabout is fair play.

    And this is not all about ME trying to make sure Ed stays single. LOL

    Maggie May (aka Stalker Shannon for Ed).

  362. All about the shame Said,

    #335-Great Dallas reference for those of us old enough to remember!

    I think Jillian sees in Ed someone a lot like herself–insecure and ready to drop the “L” word quickly, thank you very much, get me to a jewelry store!

    I thought Reid did a great job of answering her questions when she kept nagging and nagging and nagging him! I respect that he takes the word “love” seriously enough to not say it before he’s ready.

    And I disagree with Jillian–i don’t think you can fall in love–real, true, 50-year LOVE–with three men at the same time. Jillian says she always knew it was possible. I call BS.

  363. Claiborne Said,

    #354- I would LOVE that ending!!!! I would feel bad about Kiptyn, though. He has been the most normal guy so far.

  364. MaggieMay Said,

    C List (#357) – they’ve been making the rounds. Melba’s yapping about some new website or something. Plus ABC has to show “how happy they are”. Insert big YAWWWNNNN.

  365. C List Said,

    #359 – Claiborne – ITA with you about the bad feeling coming from Ed. My hubby didn’t watch tonight, but he just asked me who went home, and when I told him, he said, “She’s an idiot.”

    I’m not feeling it from Kip or Ed right now, which is funny because last week, I was sort of neutral about the whole thing.

  366. All about the shame Said,

    And one more thing…I can’t listen to Jillian squeal one more time! The best part about her crying scene at the end was that she wasn’t squeeeeaaaalllling.

  367. mothercita Said,

    I finally figured it out–Polly Pocket is approaching this whole deal like its one of those lame corporate team-building exercises! Could she and Kip have used the term,’leap of faith”, any more? I mean, REALLY!! She has been INTERVIEWING Kiptyn and Ed, while actually GETTING TO KNOW and truly FALLING IN LOVE WITH ( or falling in love FOR, like she said last week:)) Reid. Then the FOOLISH FOOLISH girl lets Reid go? She is a freak and unworthy!! I’m sure the girls are already lining up, and if I were 25 yrs. younger and single, I’d be first in line!!!

  368. Katie M Said,

    I am in shock. I did not see that coming.

  369. Renee Said,

    You know something I notice is that everybody who remembers Dallas and Eddie Haskel and Dark Shadows (what are we doing watching this?) also has matured enough to see what has the most potential, but in my twenties I choose so wrong myself. I think when I’m yelling at Jillian I am yelling at myself for letting go of the guy I was most comfortable around.

  370. JennX Said,

    NOOOoooooooooooo nononono!! :( :(

    *whimpering*

  371. Lori Said,

    LOL, Renee, you are on to something there!!

  372. Marus Said,

    hey, i’m in my twenties and picked reid! :P

  373. JennX Said,

    Ack. I was so distraught I updated my facebook status and immediately got yelled at by someone on the West Coast. Oops!

  374. old fan Said,

    may break down and go to the fort for spoilers (but won’t share them here) I want her to end up with Reid !!

  375. lovemondays Said,

    This will probably be an unpopular thing to say, but I dunno, maybe it’s NOT such a good idea to try to get naked and intimate with someone you just met a month before (during which most of the time you have been apart, or spending time with other people), and then if there are nerves or awkwardness, think that this is a red “flaig.” It’s obvious that Jillian and Ed are attracted to each other, but that was just a dumb, weird storyline that I wish ABC would have left out. I’m glad Jillian didn’t let one awkward night that was probably too soon stop her from keeping Ed.

    I am becoming very convinced by the theory that “work” really meant “breaking up with girlfriend” for Ed.

    Things I am looking forward to Lincee discussing:
    1. Jillian’s solo scenes at the beginning, especially drawing J+? in a heart in the sand. Classic.
    2. Richie’s–sorry–Ed’s poor, poor choices of clothing (new stylist perhaps?)
    3. The actors who were hired to portray Ed’s parents

  376. Girl from Spring Said,

    # 354 Drew

    So the Most Dramatic Finale Ever:
    1. Jilly dumps Kipper
    2. Ed fesses up that he had a gf and after much thought, she decides she can’t be with a cheat and ditches him too.
    3. At her most distraught moment, Reid comes back, bears his heart, and they get married by the helo pilot

    I WANT THAT TO OCCUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Bottom line….in 20 years….you are going to want someone that makes you laugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  377. Phillygirl Said,

    I really respect Reid for not allowing himself to be pushed into saying he loves Jillian. He seems to be the most mature and confident of the final three, so, of course, that’s why she sent him home. Such a shame.

    I decided that the whole family – Ed, his mom and dad – were actors, especially after seeing the bedroom scene with the oily massage…it just seemed fake to me. The cameras have never been in the room at that point before (and I’ve watched every season!), so the whole scene was fishy.

    Ed’s clothes were awful. Everyone that remembers Dark Shadows, Dallas etc. must remember when those silly gym shorts he was wearing were “in.” I’ve always thought Ed was a former nerd (and I love nerds), but is anyone else getting a gay vibe from him? Several times tonight I had that feeling, and it started when I saw him wearing the Richard Simmons shorts!!

  378. Lorraine Said,

    Ed’s wardrobe did seem off tonight. He’s been fairly well dressed. I wonder what happened. And what the heck? Reid didn’t wear his glasses at all.. Very dissapointing.

  379. jessica Said,

    MAJOR respect for reid in how he held his ground and didn’t just say ‘love’ because he knew she wanted to hear it.

    way to lead, reid!!

  380. jt Said,

    What about Reid saying he SHOULD have said he loved her? I wasn’t sure if he meant he really does and was too afraid to tell her (communication issue) or if he just thought that would have done the trick. Hmmm.

  381. VAgurl Said,

    WTH was she thinking?? Reid is absolutely charming, sincere and adorable! She should be smart enough to figure out that he takes love seriously and that when he finally tells her he loves her he actually means it. She doesn’t deserve him if she can’t see what a treasure he is.

    Can I just ask if anyone else was looking at Ed’s upper arms in that tank and thinking he needed to spend a little time in the gym? No muscle tone there, just sort of flaccid looking. Eeee…….

  382. Lorraine Said,

    Anybody else feel like she did the same thing to Reid that Jason did to her? She totally said they were good friends, and he makes her laugh, but in the end she was needing more from him. He was too risky. (in her mind)
    Can’t wait for MTA, except for an update with Jason and Molly.

  383. KMo Said,

    How could she let go of Honeybear?!? Break my heart.

  384. Lorraine Said,

    From OHCH’s blog about ep 9:”I got a call from John McEnroe and Larry Bird and they want their short shorts back. Even though we were in Hawaii, don’t get me started on the suit he wore to the rose ceremony. Go back and watch the guys’ reactions when Ed walked up — priceless. Jillian called it his ice cream salesman suit.”
    I have teas from laughing so hard. Can’t wait for Lincee’s recap

  385. Lorraine Said,

    I meant tears from laughing so hard

  386. Saggleo Said,

    I haven’t watched the episode yet but was coming on here to see who got the boot and a friend told me – ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!?!? Reid freaking rocked! I’m shocked. Although I had a weird feeling this might happen. This shall be an interesting lunch time task for me tomorrow!

  387. Jeanne Said,

    Seriously? Ed? You weren’t even born when those green shorts were the style! Yikes!
    I have never been a Kip fan, but have to say, he was very supportive, and not at all condescending on the rope course, or whatever the hell that was. Well played.
    Hubby says she let the best of ‘em go, and I agree. We’ll miss you Chandler. :-(

  388. Mallory Said,

    First time commenter and sort of new reader here…I AM IN LOVE WITH YOUR RECAPS! You’re the most hysterical writer I’ve found online in a loooooooong time! I can’t wait to see your recap about tonight’s episode! You’re probably devastated that sweet little Reid is gone. But still, I know it’s going to be great!

    Really, I loved all of the F3, but I was hoping that it would be Kiptyn who went. Jillian’s a typical girl – goes for the sexy ones as opposed to the one who makes her laugh! She said that was at the top of her list; how could she give it up? Agh, I don’t know why I’m so agitated about it because I’m an Ed girl myself. ;)

  389. Saggleo Said,

    #377 – Phillygirl Said,
    “I decided that the whole family – Ed, his mom and dad – were actors, especially after seeing the bedroom scene with the oily massage…it just seemed fake to me. The cameras have never been in the room at that point before (and I’ve watched every season!), so the whole scene was fishy”

    There was a camera on Molly and Jason’s date and she was rubbing him up w/ so much oil like she’s gonna roast him like a pig later! LOL

  390. Alicia Said,

    The only reason that I thought they might have had the cameras on in the bedroom (for a while anyway), was because they didn’t have dinner together. Chris mentioned later that they gave up that time so that they could meet his parents.

    Ed’s parents – (If they really are his parents) didn’t seem nearly as hip and up to date as the other parents. Not that they didn’t seem like perfectly nice people (if they really are his parents). Mom and Dad both could have gone for a little makeover prior to the show….they both had weird bangs. But hey – my Dad still wears his hair like James Garner in the Rockford files, so who am I do judge? And obviously that have taught their son well regarding style and clothing choices!

    Ed looked nothing like them…especially his dad. Maybe he favored his mom….around the eyes…maybe. Neither were very tall…not sure where Ed got his height from. Maybe he was adopted??(If they really were his parents.)

  391. jt Said,

    My biggest problem with Ed’s short shorts was how tan his thighs were. Same shade as the rest of his legs. Even if he is naturally olive complected, shouldn’t his thighs be a few shades paler? Unless he wears those swim trunks a lot or got a spray tan or fake bake. Any way you slice it, it ain’t good.

    I still like him the best, though. And I think Jillian will keep Ed in the end, barring any weird twists, because HE likes HER the most it seems. And THAT seems important to her. His cold-weather clothes are good, and living in Chicago or Canada, he wouldn’t have to wear many tank tops or daisy dukes.

  392. jt Said,

    Also, if I had to choose a mate based on parents, I would definitely pick Ed. At least his parents were kind of normal and not pretentious. They seemed easy to please, unlike Kippy’s.

  393. Mallory Said,

    Okay, some people are taking the fact that this show is staged wayyyyy too far. (i.e. #390) If they are really his parents? Why in the heck would they fake that part? They didn’t bring in some actors to replace Melissa’s parents last season. That’s just absurd.

    LOVE ED! PICK ED! If she picks Kiptyn, she’s picking Eve, and that woman gives me the creeps.

  394. JCat Said,

    I usually really care about who they pick in the ‘finale’ (except last time with melba) and now, again, I do not care who she picks in the ‘finale’. I SO heart Reid. I’m absolutely floored. I loved watching them together, it was fun and funny and vibrant and loving. Silly, silly Jilly.

  395. Alicia Said,

    Good grief – I need to go to bed!! Here is OHCH’s blog……

    http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/07/chris-harrison-blogs-the-bachelorette-episode-9.html

  396. JCat Said,

    and btw, jt, it’s not cold in Vancouver in winter (rains a lot but that’s about it).

  397. Jenny G Said,

    OMG…so sad that she let Reid go. Wasn’t into the dove shorts Ed was sporting. I wore those things back in the early 80’s rollerskating in the backyard while listening to “Let’s Get Physical” playing on my record player. Kind of freaked me out! Then to top it all off, he didn’t have the mojo in the bedroom. So sad…but she picked him over the “oh so sweet” Reid. I honestly think she realized her mistake after letting him go and sitting with him on the bench.

    Anybody notice the bow-chicka-bow-bow music on the one night time date? Cracked my a$$ up! Can’t remember who’s date it was (well, we all know it wasn’t Ed’s date), but it only left you to imagine what was going on with that music pumped up in the background.

    So happy that she picked the ever-so-gentle Kipton. The first time she saw him in Hawaii, she got the hugest smile on her face (as did I). I just want to wash myself on his washboard stomach! Dreamy.

  398. jt Said,

    Oh, well I live in Texas, so everywhere north of here is cold to me during the winter. :) I guess it’s all relative.

  399. Phillygirl Said,

    #389 – Saggleo Said,

    How could I have forgotten about Molly slithering all over Melba?!? Was that in the bedroom, though? I think I blocked it out because I so disliked her.

    Also – I thought Kiptyn showed a bit more personality last night and I liked how he commented on how tough this was going to be for Jillian when he saw her walking towards them for the rose ceremony.

  400. C List Said,

    I desperately need someone to answer this question for me: Maybe it was just the lighting, but was Ed’s suit at the rose ceremony PINK? Whatever it was, it was very Miami Vice circa 1980s.

  401. Claiborne Said,

    Jt, those are good observations about Ed’s tan legs. I completely agree.

  402. Lorraine Said,

    Ed’s suit was blue

  403. jt Said,

    Okay, I just saw the very ending of this episode on abc.com, and Ed is saying, “Check these out” as he’s sliding his shorts off to reveal the green things. Then he talks about how he wanted to show Jillian “as much as possible about my sexy legs and hot gut region.” Then he laughs. So I am comforted by the fact that Ed knows the shorts are a joke.

  404. Deb Said,

    Reasons why I think Reid is coming back:
    1. “I wish there was something I could do to reverse this”, his comment in the limo ride which was obviously taped much later. When he got into the limo it was daylight, when he makes that comment it is pitch black outside through the rear window.
    2. That limo left the curb going slower than people walk. It was as if they were going to stop and he was going to get out and go tell her right then and there that he was an idiot and should have spoken up.
    3. Jillian’s comments during the finale week previews lead me to believe she was referring to Reid coming back and finally sharing his feelings
    I hope this is the case, Reid is the best match I think.

    Could have done without the soft porn. Is it me, am I a prude? Oils can be nice, but on the first intimate encounter? Seems odd that you would jump right to “that” place. All I could think of with the ED issue was Sex and the City and Charlotte going to seduce Trey the night before the wedding and he couldn’t “do the deed”. I don’t think I would have picked Ed under those circumstances. The shorts and light blue jacket would have been the clincher for me.

  405. Kimberly Said,

    I was so sad last night. At the end, I kept waiting for the limo’s brake lights to flash or Jillian to go get OHCH and tell him she made a mistake. What was that girl thinking sending Reid home??? It just makes no sense. He was by far the best match for her out of the 3, at least from the footage we actually saw.

    Out of the remaining 2, I hope Kiptyn wins. He at least seems to be a nice guy. I don’t like Ed, at all. He seems shady to me. Any guy that wears shorts that tiny can’t be trusted. And it really made me mad when he went to find Jillian after she walked Reid out. HELLO! She hadn’t returned to you and Kip because she wanted to be alone. Ed of course had to make her sending Reid home all about him.

  406. jt Said,

    I think whether or not Reid shows up at MTA will tell us a lot about what happens (if anything) with him in the finale.

  407. Lorraine Said,

    Let me start by saying I think she sent the wrong guy home last night. Reid’s the guy that you don’t try to squeeze a proposal out of, he’s the one you agree to date. I may be the only one who has this opinion, but I really don’t want to see him come back. There’s been way too much of that this season, and it seems so “orchestrated”. Reid coming back professing love would not feel right to me. It would feel like he was persuaded to come back.
    On a semi related note, I loved the absolutely loved the ridiculous amount of bubbles in the bath last night. I didn’t even know that Reid had a wine glass in his hand until it came up out of the bubbles. Awesome….

  408. C List Said,

    In honor of Reid, I just ordered a grande soy latte at Starbucks instead of my usual tall. Sad to see ya go, guy.

  409. Lindsey Said,

    I have to say — I think ABC is up to their old trickery here and totally made the “E.D.” thing into more than it really was. It looked to me like they were both really tired and fell asleep after a long day in the sun — totally believable, that happens to me when I spend the day in the sun — and then after laying on the bed for a while and cuddling and kissing, they (or at least one of them) fell asleep. Who knows what else they said in their explanations of what happened — ABC probably just showed us the part that would lead us to believe it was some sort of performance failure. When she was sitting on top of him whispering in his hear and rubbing his shoulder, she could have been waking him up — didn’t he look like he had just woken up when you saw his face right after that?

    Regardless — I smell something fishy from our boy Ed. Not sure quite what it is but I think there is more to this that we will learn from his (?) “shocking confession” in two weeks…

  410. Sher Said,

    #291 jt “he wouldn’t have to wear many tank tops or daisy dukes.” Bwahahahaha! Love it!

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