My deadline has been met! Thanks for your patience. This has been two weeks in a row that I’ve been tardy in posting my recap. You guys are truly great sports for coming back and hitting refresh nine times a day. How glorious was it when you hit refresh this time and something other than Mike Brady and Larry Bird popped up?
I’d like to include a mini disclaimer before the standard disclaimer.
We are renovating our office and the painters have been here since 10:00 this morning. I didn’t notice a difference in air quality until I left for lunch. When I came back through the doors, a waft of Sherwin-Williams’ Sand Pebble #42 nearly knocked me down. Since then, I’ve had a headache, twitchy left eye and seem to be speaking at a rapid pace for no apparent reason. (So I’ve been told.)
I’m also listening to my Hair Band playlist and that always puts me in an aggressive mood.
Read on at your own risk. You’ve been warned.
SIMPLE DISCLAIMER
The following information you are about to read is of personal opinion. You probably aren’t even reading this because the simple disclaimer has been a part of my recap since the days I emailed this puppy to just a few of my closer friends. HA! Fooled you. You’ve skipped this amusing mockery and will not know what in the world your friends are talking about when they say, “Did you like the new disclaimer Lincee did?” However, if you or someone on your Facebook page happens to personally know, sort of know, know the brother/cousin of, thought you saw in the grocery store buying leftover Easter candy or have a Jazzercise instructor that looks exactly like one of the Bachelors on the show…none of this is personal and I’m sure they are all lovely people.
Oh Jill. Aren’t you cute walking along the Hawaiian beach in your adorable yellow and white striped bikini? (Pay no attention to the camel toe readers.) You want to frolic in the surf? Go ahead dear. We will watch you from here. So sweet. And now you are drawing in the sand. How wistful and childlike of you. What’s that you are writing? A big heart? With something in the middle?
J + ?
I’m sorry ABC, but that was chach-tastic.
J + ? = lame
First Fantasy Date
Kiptynite
Jillian tells the camera that she is nervous about a date with Kip. Why is she nervous?
Jillian: “I have anxiety because I know he is good looking.”
What the crap Jillian? Where is the spunky, confident girl who we knew last season? And when did you get all caught up in looks? Yes. We know he has a nine pack, but that can’t be the only thing you focus on girl. Try having a conversation with him. Reject the abs when he pulls them out and talk about his job. Or his family. Wait. Scratch that. His Mom is psycho. Talk about movies or music or books. Anything. Stop being caught up on his looks, okay?
The twosome meet in the middle of a very long suspension bridge. They take in the view for a few minutes and then Jill drives them to a ropes course.
Nothing says romance like a dorky helmet and the fear of blowing chunks on top of a 90-foot totem pole.
Jillian: “I want to see that Kip has an element of adventure aboot him. With adventure comes trust and that is so huge to me. When things get tough in life, I want to know that he is there for me. What if I have a bad hair day? What if someone on the street calls me fat? Or what if Oprah is a rerun and I have nothing to do from 4:00 to 5:00? Kip is going to need to man up. And walking aboot on a horizontal ladder made of dental floss will certainly give me an indication of how Kip operates in stressful situations. This is the most important date I’ve ever been on. I hope he passes the test.”
Kip goes first in every obstacle and admits to the camera that he was touched by Jillian’s lack of I-am-woman-hear-me-roar side. He liked that she could be vulnerable. He liked that she was goofy. He also didn’t seem to mind that she kissed him before, during and after every challenge.
Interesting. This bugged the crap out of me.
Jillian: “Kip is so cute on the ropes course. All I can think about is how he looks like a baby giraffe!”
Lincee: Really? Because all I can think about is his junk.
Let’s take a moment to talk about the gear that is used during a ropes course. It’s very…how shall I say…NOTICABLE that a guy’s package is going to be front and center when climbing into one of those harnesses. HELLO KIP’S JUNK. NICE TO MEET YOU.
The last obstacle is called the “Leap of Faith.” If Jillian wasn’t hyperventilating out of fear, I’m sure we would have heard a sweet soliloquy on the irony that this obstacle is called “Leap of Faith” and she and Kip are taking a leap of faith.
Instead, she’s breathing in through the nose and out the mouth, trying to think calming thoughts while maintaining a cool, calm, collected exterior in front of Kip. Unfortunately, her white pasty face, sweaty brow and trembling body gave her away.
Kip is at the top of his totem pole. He scaled it, no problem, and is standing in the “tree pose” waiting for Jillian to summon the nerve to join him. When she finally decides to stand erect on her totem pole, Kip is coaching her every step of the way.
Kip: “Take a breath. You have to believe. Just do it.”
Jillian: “Aren’t you scared? Look how far away that bar is?”
Kip: “I’m excited and 98 percent sure I’m going to catch the bar. It’s what I do. I succeed. Get used to it darling.”
Jillian: “Will you blow me a kiss?”
Kip: “Absolutely.”
Jillian: “Can we make out when we get to the bottom?”
Kip: “It may take a few minutes for me to be lowered since I will have caught the bar, but yes dear. When I get down there, I am going to give you the most perfect kiss you’ve ever experienced. Ready? 3…2…1…JUMP!”
Kip catches his bar.
Jillian is miles away from hers and falls toward the ground.
Kiptynite tells the camera that he is proud of Jillian for just trying and he thinks they would make an incredible couple.
Jillian tells the camera that she still has a bit of uneasiness that Kip has admitted to being the dumper and not the dumpee. She does not want her heart broken…again…so she will have to drill Kip with some hard questions at dinner.
Jillian: “I like how you coached me through the obstacle course today. It made me think you are way cooler than the cool I already thought you were. Which brings me to my first serious question—do you have any flaws?
Kip: “Of course I do Jillian. I can’t Flamenco dance. I have a hard time remembering to change my oil every three months. I sometimes feel I am too involved with charitable work. And ab number eight is not as defined as the other ones. Here…take a look.”
Kip lifts his shirt and Jill is sucked in.
Kip: “I also can be impatient. And I typically have one foot in and one foot out of relationships.”
Fight the power of the abs Jill. FIGHT IT! DO YOU HEAR WHAT HE IS SAYING?
Jillian: “My biggest fear is that we fall in love and when things don’t go perfectly, you will dump me.”
Kip: “I’m perfect enough for the both of us. If I had a doubt, I wouldn’t be here.”
Jill takes his confession as some divine sign that he is in this whole-heartedly and invites him to the forego suite. The camera zooms in on a lot of making out and rubbing of arms and backs as they lay in the forego bed with rose petals all over it.
Jillian tells us that she is no longer afraid that she’s falling in love with a bunch of qualities she wants in a husband on paper. She’s falling in love with Kip.
Second Fantasy Date
Reid
I love Reid.
Jillian tells us that she has a special romantic date set up with Reid. I was a little ticked off that it was in an abandoned field with nothing but a beach ball. How is this fair? But Reid made it all better when he said it didn’t matter where they were…all he wanted to do was make out with her.
Man of my dreams.
However, right after this exchange, she looked funny. She had an emptiness in her eyes that reminded me a lot of the time Jake had his train confession.
As they are lamely kicking a beach ball around…
Wait. Seriously ABC intern. This is the best you could do? I know that the helicopter was late and you needed to kill time, but surely there was a fluffy blanket, bottle of champagne and 3,000 candles in your bag of tricks that you could have pulled out, right? A beach ball? In a field? Head in the game dude.
As they are lamely kicking a beach ball around…
Wait. Seriously Jillian and Reid. Kicking a beach ball? I think batting it back and forth or maybe a little volleyball action would have made more sense. Why are you kicking it on the ground? And why are you even playing with the ball in the first place? Here’s an idea: go under that palm tree over there and play 20 questions. There’s a wise use of time. Head in the game guys.
As they are lamely kicking a beach ball around, the helicopter finally lands in the middle of the deserted field.
Reid: “This will be my first helicopter ride.”
Jillian: “Really? I’ve always wanted to go in a helicopter!”
Reid: “Haven’t you been twice this season?”
Jillian: “Um. I mean…let’s kiss!”
The pilot is a delightful man who gives all sorts of information on the island, the foliage, the waterfall and the fact that he is an ordained minister.
Hey ohhhhh! Jillian jokes that they should get this party started and get married right then! Reid has a funny look aboot him that Jillian can’t quite distinguish. Where has she seen that look before?
Oh yeah. It was her on top of the totem pole.
Strike one Reid.
Miraculously, the ABC Intern has fashioned a nice little picnic on the grounds, complete with squishy pillows, champagne and what appears to either be raw purple onion or eggplant.
Jillian: “Did I freak you out when I talked about marriage in the chopper?”
Reid: “No.”
Jillian gives a blank stare.
Reid: “I’m afraid…the time frame is intimidating…I mean I have feelings, but… sometimes I feel…it’s rushed, I know…for someone…like me being put in situation…it’s hard…I’m definitely feeling…you with other guys is…”
Jillian: “Suck it up and tell me how you feel.”
Reid: “I like you this much.”
Reid opens his arms wide and Jillian decides that they can try again at dinner.
Strike two Reid.
But wait…maybe there’s hope for our beloved Reid after all:
Jillian: “I’m feeling something I’ve never felt before. A feeling I never knew existed. Reid is the one I relate to the most, but I just need him to tell me how he is feeling. You know…does he think I’m hot? I don’t know. He won’t tell me. He just blabs on about me being smart and structured and full of potential. What about my body? What about my hair? These are important opinions that need to be voiced.”
At dinner, Reid talks to Jillian with his mouth full of food. Noticeably, they are comfortable. Then they sit forehead to forehead and talk about how Jillian is happy to move to Philadelphia. Clearly, they are meant for each other.
Jillian: “Would you propose at the end of this journey?”
Lincee: Well crap.
Reid: “Wow. You are really putting on the pressure. Am I ready to propose? Maybe. Possibly. I don’t know.”
Strike three Reid. You’re out.
Regardless, Jillian pulls out the forego card and asks Reid if he wants to get down in the fancy suite. Reid says he has no reason to say yes or no, because he was denied already once in Spain, so what does it matter? Jillian says that she wants to take advantage of the time and make it memorable.
And they do this by sitting in the biggest, most obnoxious bubble bath in the history of this reality show.
The intern pours 18 of the tiny little hotel bubble bath bottles into the water. The ABC cameraman pans the floor and we see discarded clothing leading up to a wall of suds that extends both Reid and Jillian’s heads. There are literally nine million candles lit and a close up of Reid mugging down with Jillian shows a bead of sweat pouring from his temple region.
And all I could think about is the time Chandler and Monica are in a bath and Monica hides under the bubbles when Joey comes in to ask if Chandler wants some chicken.
It was pretty much the opposite of oh my awesomeness.
Fantasy Date Three
Ed
Jillian decides that the best date to have with Ed is one that allows them to lay around horizontally. No beach balls. No ropes courses. Just the sand, the sea and shorty, green shorts.
Jillian: “I’m really confused about Ed. I mean, he left, but he came back. I’m going to need a huge sign that let’s me know he is in this.”
Ed runs to meet Jillian on the yacht and tells her in one sentence that he missed her terribly and that she is not only gorgeous with her tan, but sexy as well.
Jillian: “Did you hear? Ed thinks I’m sexy and he missed me! Hello sign!”
Ed tells Jillian that he thinks about her every day.
Jillian: “What…you don’t think about work?”
Lincee: SNAP!
Ed: “Nope. I’m happy where I am. I can’t very well wear my green, shorty shorts in Chicago, now can I?”
Ed tells a story about how his family calls him Richie. Jillian asks Ed if he thinks she’s pretty. Ed invites her into his arms and wraps her legs around his waist as he jumps off the side of the yacht into the water. Jillian is in love.
We see the ever-popular fantasy date crotch shots that ABC is so fond of making us suffer through. Lots of underwater kicking and swimming and general unnecessary-ness.
About this time is when we also realize that Ed has some unfortunate issues with chest hair growth formation. We were able to further scrutinize due to his vintage terrycloth tank top. It was kelly green with charcoal piping.
Ed wraps Jillian up in a huge beach towel. She feels dainty and cute that the whole thing covered her from head to toe. Ed tells her that he feels he is at a disadvantage that she didn’t get to meet his family because he was away that week making work a priority instead of her. But he has flown them in special just to meet her.
Jillian jumps for joy and begins to make out with Ed again.
Jillian: “Rich has done two very smart things. First…he came back. Second…he flew is family in. He must be loaded! It melted my heart.”
Jillian is going 90-miles-per-hour when she meets Ed’s parents.
Jillian: “Richie is wicked awesome. He listens to ME. He knows what is important to ME and cares about ME and wants to prove to ME that he is willing to go above and beyond for ME!”
Why is Ed still in the green, shorty shorts and terry tank? It’s a valid question I think.
Jillian babbles on about how Ed is exactly what she is looking for…tall, dark and handsome. Then she realizes that she should include qualities other than physical appearance.
Jillian: “Rich is loyal, honest, steadfast and true. He loves Christmas. I LOVE CHRISTAMAS! And I love playing cards.”
Ed’s Mom nearly busts a gut at hearing this news and invites “Jo Ann” to visit with her outside so they can talk about the wonder that is Richie.
Meanwhile, Dad and Richie have a little discussion of their own.
Dad: “Son…why are we here?”
I thought this was hilarious! Was Ed not able to tell them because he signed his life away with a contract? Was Dad confused in Jillian’s role? Was Dad overwhelmed by Jillian’s charm that he was trying to be encouraging to Ed?
Ed tells his Dad that his job can take a back seat and that not being with Jillian would be a mistake. He said he would propose if she picked him. He has to pull the trigger.
Oh the irony.
Big Ed tells his son that when two people have feelings, things will work out. Then he starts to cry and tells Rich he just wants him to be happy.
Awwwww! But at the same time, I’m thinking he’s a little jet lagged.
Big Ed goes outside to meet Jillian and tells her that she is awesome. Then the pair go down to the beach, Ed in his green, shorty shorts and Jillian in her shorty denim skirt, and read the forego card together as the sun sets.
Jillian: “Since Ed brought his family in to meet me personally, I want to focus on the romance as much as possible tonight. And that will be easy with Ed. He is so sexy. Tall, olive skin and great smile.”
Ed and Jillian make out for a while on the couch with some “romantic” Hawaiian music playing in the background. It seemed a bit on the forced side to me. A little too much ukulele for my taste, but whatever.
Ed: “I want to make this work. I want to balance my life. You can help me do that. You would help me be better at life. I would love for you to be the reason for me to not work.”
She’s done. They show a montage of Ed and Jillian in a chair with her on his lap. Ed and Jillian on the couch with her feet in his lap. Ed and Jillian at the balcony with every one of her appendages wrapped around his body. But then, he picks her up and carries her to the forego bed.
I expected a few shots of them making out and then the standard shot of Ed getting up and shutting the door or closing the blinds.
When Jill got up, I thought that the producers were spicing it up a bit and having HER shut the door or close the blinds.
I did NOT expect our sweet, little Polly Pocket to go to the bathroom and change into what can only be described as a short night shirt made of cheese cloth. Perhaps gossamer? Whatever. My point is that it was virtually see through.
This is the girl who was embarrassed that her Dad saw her making out in a hot tub last season? Hey Jillian! I CAN SEE HALF OF YOUR LEFT BOOB.
And if that’s not enough, I begin to get uncomfortable when she pulls out the rubbing oils. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Oil. Rubbing. Legs. Arms. Belly. Unfortunate chest hair. Crotch regions. Backs. Necks. Thighs. Upper thighs. On and on and on and on. This was so Cinemax After Dark.
To top if off, due to the of process of elimination, we know Ed is the one with erectile dysfunction So I’m just more uncomfortable knowing that awkward moment is coming.
I did NOT expect to witness the aftershocks of the blessed event.
After a romantic shot of the light going off, Gary the ABC camera guy shoots the ocean waves, the moon, the palm trees blowing in the wind, the money shot of the Westin hotel sign and then back to the window where the lights come back on.
We find Ed laying on his stomach and Jillian straggling his back. I’m thinking back spasm maybe? Surely not erectile dysfunction. Then we hear a voiceover from Jillian.
“The fantasy date did not exactly go like we planned. I mean, we were sunburned and it had been a huge day. Lots of stress. My hands were all over him but there was nothing there.”
To top it off, we get this voiceover from Ed:
“I was nervous. It didn’t happen. I couldn’t show her that I was in love with her. I don’t know how to react.”
Using apparent and obvious context clues, I’m going with erectile dysfunction.
Survey says?
Rose Ceremony
Jillian tells us that her initial fear was not falling in love at all. As luck would have it, she has feelings for all four guys. Who would have thought? She sits down with Our Host Chris Harrison (yeah!) to talk about the boys.
Jillian: “I’m happy knowing that I’m crazy about these guys. I am confused of what I’m supposed to do. I’m falling in love with more than one. Kip is crazy hot. He is too good to be true and I’m afraid he’s going to break my heart.”
OHCH: “Makes perfect sense. This means that more than likely, you will keep him. Go on.”
Jillian: “Reid is exactly how I would describe my future hubby. He makes me laugh. But he has not been able to tell me that I am awesome and that he wants me forever.”
OHCH: “But he’s exactly what you want in a husband and you know he likes you?”
Jillian: “Can it Hare. Ed adores me and that’s important.”
OHCH: “I heard he couldn’t get it up.”
Jillian: “They make pills for that.”
VIDEO MESSAGES
Kip: “Jillian. I can see myself falling in love with you. I’m not saying I’ll do that, but anything is possible. Take a leap of faith so we can light this world on fire. And all this can be yours.”
He lifts up his shirt and Jillian glazes over.
Reid: “Spending the night with you was the best night of my life. It’s given me more insight to my emotions. I’ve avoided your questions. Not because I don’t know how I feel. My feelings have grown so strong so quickly. I’m scared but excited. When our eyes met…I knew we had something then. Keep your honey bear around so we can see where we are headed.”
Ed: “Blah, blah, blah. I love you.”
Naturally, we know that Reid is going home. In Our Host Chris Harrison’s words, he will be “Going home. On a plane. TONIGHT.”
And to top it off, Jillian pulls Ed aside to talk about his little “problem” and he assures her that he will “have it taken care of” if she just gives him one more shot. I’m not sure I would have done so.
Because his outfit was straight up atrocious. Seriously. He looked like he came out of a Charlie’s Angels sitcom. Maybe his whole wardrobe choice this trip was a tribute to the late, great Farrah Fawcett.
Let’s hope.
Jilly gives roses to Kip and Ed and poor Reid looks so defeated.
Our Host Chris Harrison steps up, looks a little forlorn and tells Reid to take a moment to say his alohas.
It’s good to have you back Chris.
On the way to the rejection bench, Reid tells Jillian that he hopes she made the right move, because she doesn’t look completely sure.
Jillian: “You define everything I’m looking for in a husband.”
Reid: “Great. So what’s the problem?”
Jillian: “You are goofy and fun and I want that. But I’m willing to make sacrifices. You are not.”
Reid pulls her close and they cry on each other’s shoulders. Then they sit forehead to forehead again and think about what might have been.
Reid: “I don’t know what to say.”
Jillian: “No joke. You have a problem with that and I need words of affirmation. That’s why we are on the rejection bench together.”
They hug at the limo, Reid hops in and gives one last glance as the limo pulls away very slowly. At first, Reid kills the psychotherapist with silence. But then he opens up. Meanwhile, Jillian is crying at the rejection bench. Her falsies are falling off.
Reid: “I wish I could have opened up to her the way I should have. This is a tough moment. A surprising moment. I could really see myself with her. I was falling in love with her. I don’t think she even knows that.”
Hey Reid…call me.
Ed swoops in like Cowboy Dillweed and tells her that he appreciates her keeping him around. Jillian cries on his shoulder and he rocks her sweetly as Kiptynite does a set of 100 crunches nearby.
Big things are in store for the coming weeks! Jason and Molly are back at the Men Tell All. There is some weird “Wile Weekend in Vegas” with past contestants, I’m going to post about how my friend Katie lost 27 pounds in 30 days (this is not a joke) and then the FINALE!
What do you guys think the unexpected confession is that makes Jillian question everything?
Oh…and are you missing your Jake fix? IHGB readers Amy and Stacy were nice enough to share THIS with you all!
Thanks for waiting so long for the post! Until next week,
I’m all about the shame, not the fame,
Lincee
Love u Lincee!! Woohoo – first post! YAY!
I’ve barely started reading and already I’m crying….love the “aboots” and the description of Kiptynite’s date. Back to the entertainment!!!
That Jake is going to make some lucky man very happy.
She sent Reid home. Really? What a dope.
Linece – I think this was your best recap ever! I was hysterical from beginning to end!
Oops – meant to type Lincee – still too aggravated that Reid is gone to type correctly.
That Jake sure is a short one!
Hello Kip’s junk nice to meet you. Haha! Last week it was the tight pants in Spain. The producers must love Kip’ junks!
Loved this recap! Favorite part: Reid: “Haven’t you been twice this season?”
Jillian: “Um. I mean…let’s kiss!”
I love any mention of “the nine pack”. I giggle forever when you type about Kip’s abs.
“I did NOT expect our sweet, little Polly Pocket to go to the bathroom and change into what can only be described as a short night shirt made of cheese cloth. Perhaps gossamer? Whatever. My point is that it was virtually see through.” HAHAHAHA!!!!!
Hilarious! You summed up my thoughts EXACTLY about the skinemax show…seriously, how uncomfortable. Funniest line (because I was thinking the same thing, and wondering how much double sided tape they used): Hey Jillian! I CAN SEE HALF OF YOUR LEFT BOOB.
I haven’t heard anyone comment on this at all yet, but my friend Melissa says her gaydar went nuts on both Jake AND KIP!! This doesn’t mean he’s gay, but Kip and Jill don’t really seem to have any chemistry at all. He’s also a horrible kisser. Ugh.
Ed. What is there to say? At the rose ceremony, he looked like a Paas reject.
When he kept wearing those tank tops and then those shorts and THEN started showing a real lack of confidence with his comments (in the FS), it all didn’t seem to add up.
Why would a guy with enough (misguided) confidence to dress like a porn star from the 70s make comments, wondering why Jill would be interested in him??
And perhaps the biggest question of all – - WHY was ABC filming all of that for so long, anyway??
We usually don’t have to see THAT MUCH before the door is closed or the curtain is drawn . . . why did they stay so long? Did they suspect Ed *is* a porn star from the 70s and would NEED the camera to perform?? *confused*
Ahhh, Reid. Love him.
He had me last week when he wondered if the forgo card would be in Spanish.
He sealed the deal this week when he explained to Jill that he has trouble being open about how he feels this early on in a relationship because ‘he’s four!’
He deserves someone who will not date 24 other men over a span of however many weeks this show takes and demand to be told ‘ILY’ to keep him around. I’m glad he didn’t cave and say things he wasn’t sure he was ready to say.
He and his fear of raw meat rock my world.
Daaaaaaang – you just missed one thing in your recap. Did you see Ed smell his armpit when Jillian got up to put on her cheese cloth? It was like Jillian got up and walked out unexpectantly and Ed thought, “Maybe I smell?” I think he was worried so much about stinking up the place that he couldn’t concentrate.
I laughed my butt off when I saw him to that!
to that = DO that
Ed’s unfortunate chest hair pattern…freakin’ hilarious! And all that oil rubbing foreplay was seriously icky. I had to tell my 13 and 10 yr olds to NOT look, seriously screaming at them to look away oh my gosh no warning this is SO gross!! I am now having to field questions I was not ready to answer. Ed not being able to ‘perform’, geez, my husband is ready if I even mention the possibility of sex. He was trying to get in on 6 hours after his visectomy! And this after 13 yrs of marriage…Ed has issues people. His dad was sweet, but lordy that’s what he’s gonna end up looking like folks, that weird hair and mustache combo, don’t hate me because I am honest. Ed is creepy and that,ummm ~ suit, even my 10 yr old son was cracking up!
So sad to see Reid gone! Stupid girl! I can’t decide whether I would rather:
- Reid come back, declare his love, and be the one Jilli picks in the end
or
- Reid stay classy and find a nice girl at home who can appreciate his oh my awesomeness.
I guess it’s a win-win, as long as Ed’s nasty shorts and gut stay off my TV.
#12 Jennifer – Funny, my gaydar was going off on Ed this episode! Between the short shorts and the bedroom issues, it almost seemed like he might be batting for the other team. I doubt that’s the case, but I’d be lying if I said the thought didn’t cross my mind more than once!
I’d love to hear what the real story was with Ed in the FS. I seriously doubt it was the issue they would like us to believe it is. Poor Ed – hope he can clear his name in the ATFR show.
You are great, Lincee!! The best part of this show is reading your recap the next day. Oh, and Reid.
“Maybe his whole wardrobe choice this trip was a tribute to the late, great Farrah Fawcett.” LOL!!
WARNING: Do not read Lincee’s blog with a full bladder!! OMG!! Hilarious, girl!!! Thank you for making me laugh so doggone hard!!
Wicked awesome recap!
#12 Jennifer: I’m thinking that might be the confession–that Kip is gay–woo hoo!
Maybe she’ll bring Reid back??? (but would he come? I don’t think so!)
Man wearing tank top, ever = deal breaker
Man wearing short shorts, ever = double deal breaker
Man wearing tank top and short shorts who never looks Jillian in the eye = RUN!
And I can’t believe you didn’t mention Jillian’s obvious toplessness in the tub scene with Reid?!?!?
Great Recap, thank you so much for taking so much time to do this every week- I know that there are many many many of us that thank you!
Just wanted to say, REALLY? Reid? She kept talking about how she was in this to find her best friend, AKA last season, and then she sends him home. Sigh…..
Jillian doesn’t deserve Reid.
Ed, I have always had my doubts about him. He is hiding something. My thought is that he didn’t want Jillian to meet his parents that is why he left and came back after that part of the show. The parents he brought to Hawaii are actors he paid to be his parents. LOL Check out his picture during Jill’s “deliberation”. He has his arms crossed in front of him.
My daughter loves Kip. She is 11. I agree with Post #15. That was uncomfortable…
I think the fact that Reid and Jillian’s “Date” was at the WES-tin was his downfall.
#23 – I noticed the toplessness in the tub scene too. I wonder how she got into that tub and how did she got out? And how long did she stay in the tub before the enormous high bubbles began to to dissolve, right in front of the entire crew? Yep, a real relaxing and romantic time for sure.
Best line – “They make pills for that”. Still laughing………
Jill was wearing a strapless bikini top y’all.
I thought it was Kip since the beginning…I think all this other drama is to fill the ABC confusion quota.
I still think Ed is shady, he says all the right words but can’t walk the talk.
I will miss Reid – he is a cutie. I hope he does not “come back” to warn/propose or any other crap. He left classy, let it be!
Thanks for the laughs Lincee!
I think the best explanation of all for Ed’s clothes last night was posted about 150 posts ago – his ex-girlfriend gave them to him to wear in Hawaii, telling him that they were the new, supercool in thing to wear
I have been attempting to write a comment but between speeding cars brick mailboxes and cops, I have just finished reading Lincee’s most awesome comentary. Any one know a good brick layer? At least the driver wasn’t hurt.
Is Kiptyn a member of Hair Club For Men?
….and what’s with the “I love you” in Ed’s video??? It all seems a little forced doesn’t it? Does anyone have gay-dar? Does Ed beep a little bit for you? Great post, Lincee. (and right on about Cinemax after dark– seriously ABC?!) Thanks!
The moment Reid opened his arms wide to tell Polly Pocket that he liked her *THIS MUCH*… well, I was putty in his hands. Awesome recap as always, Lincee!
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I want to run into Jake in the airport!! Amy and Stacy, can you tell us the story? (there has to be a story, right??)
NOOOO!!! Not Reid…I thought I was on team Ed until Reid got kicked off. My husband and I both yelled. I feel sad as if I actually knew these people….what is wrong with me? Ha!
“I want to see that Kip has an element of adventure aboot him. With adventure comes trust and that is so huge to me. When things get tough in life, I want to know that he is there for me. What if I have a bad hair day? What if someone on the street calls me fat? Or what if Oprah is a rerun and I have nothing to do from 4:00 to 5:00? Kip is going to need to man up. And walking aboot on a horizontal ladder made of dental floss will certainly give me an indication of how Kip operates in stressful situations. This is the most important date I’ve ever been on. I hope he passes the test.”
Hilarious. I hope that Kip does not also look at ropes course performance as an indicator of how a person might be in a relationship, cause Jillian sucked.
“And all I could think about is the time Chandler and Monica are in a bath and Monica hides under the bubbles when Joey comes in to ask if Chandler wants some chicken.”
LOL! Lincee, I love your references. Monica: “Chicken? I could go for some chicken.”
When the guys did the video tapes for Jillian, Ed looked like he was reading off a teleprompter. Very robotic.
I’ve been an Ed fan all along, but I think Kip and Jill go better together. I’m getting tired of this whole E.D. thing. The cameras stayed in the room for so long because it makes good TV. I think they probably also told Ed to go “comfort Jillian” after she sent Reid home. The entire episode made Ed look really lame. My guess is she doesn’t pick him, because he’s looking pretty bad this close to the FRC.
Also, does it annoy anyone else that Jillian (and every other bachelor/ette) acts like they plan all these dates? They go to a lot of trouble on this show to make no mention whatsoever of camera crews there, producers planning dates, etc. Because that would have made a lot more sense if Ed had talked about how awkward it was to have all those cameras there, but that would remind all of us that this is a reality show and not real life. WHAT?!
I’m not glad Reid went home because his feelings were obviously hurt, but if he is in fact not with Jillian at this point, I’m sure he is fine, just like every other cast-off in the history of this show.
Oh yeah…I almost forgot (probably because of that super-long post I just wrote. Sorry.)…
Another reason I think she won’t pick Ed is because of the “Ed, do you think I could talk to you for a second?” Before the RC. The last time that happened was with Mikey, and he got to stay that week, but was booted pretty quickly thereafter.
I absolutely love your recaps – the highlight of my Tuesdays. You hit all of the topics my friends and I were going crazy over last night. Thanks for sharing these with us!
I knew I was in for a good time when I laughed out loud in the first recap paragraph! So funny – loved the cheesecloth comment, did notice Ed seemingly smell his pits, and loved the Chandler/Monica/Joey bring some chicken and a diet coke! I thought Reid was gone when Jillie told JoAnn how much she loved Christmas….could he be our next Bachelor? What is the confession next week? WAY too much of Cinimax after dark for sure…topped last seasons hot tub scene!
My guess is the big confession will be Ed telling Jillian he’s gay, and he didn’t have a girlfriend back home in Chicago, he had a boyfriend!
#25 My daughter is 12 and she also loves Kip-hopefully, she’ll learn the prettier they come, the bigger their egos!
HI! I love this recap so much. And I have such a crush on Reid. He is awesome. I think that Jillian wasn’t the one, but the next girl for him, man, will she be lucky because he will be everything we love about him AND feel more comfortable opening up, too.
I really don’t like Ed. I just don’t buy it. The “I love you” felt forced. Really? So you get 5 weeks with a girl with 20 other guys, you leave for two weeks, you come back, and you love her. Falling in love, fine. Full on love? I don’t know… I think he is a people pleaser and he doesn’t really know what he wants. I think he knows he needs more balance in his life, but he needs to figure that out on his own. It is not Jillian’s job, you know what I mean? I don’t trust him. I think he has some growing up to do.
On a different note with him, while I don’t think any sane man would agree to be portrayed as having e.d., I do think it is fishy that the cameras were rolling that whole time. Did they know something was going to happen? Or do they roll that much tape in all the forgo hotel rooms? And if it is the latter, then at what point does the couple throw them out?
Finally, Jillian was totally naked in the tub with Reid. Strapless bikini? Really? After her cheesecloth number, do you really think that?!?!? AND, I knew he was a goner then because the SAME thing happened with Jillian and Jason. Tub = rejection with Jillian, one way or the other…
Thanks Lincee!
Kip’s hair… there is just something not right there… I am a ‘no rugs or plugs’ person and I definitely think #32 is correct… Kip is Hair Club for Men past President… I think Ed is funny and cute and he plays cards! What more could you possibly want?
You can always dress a man… you cannot change character flaws… or a man’s mother!
#36 I was not there in the airport. My friend Stacy posted the picture on Facebook and I knew Lincee would love to see it. She was flying through Atlanta from Ft Lauderdale (if I remember right) and she noticed he was her pilot and did a double take and said “don’t I know you from somewhere” he laughed and she asked for a picture. She said he is super nice and even cuter in person.
Does anyone else see an autistic quality to Ed?
I will miss you Reid! You can be my magic 8 ball anytime! (I’m sure my husband won’t mind).
And #3 Kaytee: you almost made me pee my pants!
Another good line….”Ed swoops in like Cowboy Dillweed and tells her that he appreciates her keeping him around. Jillian cries on his shoulder and he rocks her sweetly as Kiptynite does a set of 100 crunches nearby. ” I cracked up!
At this point I’m getting fed up and don’t really care who Jillian picks. I say every season that I’m not going to watch but it’s like a train wreck–you can’t stop. Plus, if I didn’t watch, I wouldn’t know what y’all were talking about.
Thanks for coming through with another great recap, Lincee…I don’t know how you do it but I certainly enjoy reading them.
Funniest recap in a long time.. let’s hope they paint your office next week for the MTA.
I’m stunned about Reid going. Now I know for sure that Jill doesn’t like guys that are awesome.
I really hope he’s not the one coming back in two weeks. I want him to meet a nice girl that won’t constantly question him about his love for her.
#47 gracie: yes. Absolutely. Many characteristics.
I was horrified by the cameras in the FS with Ed and Jill. What in the world?!? And why in the world was she strandling him while he was on his back/side while the cameras were there?? It was like a sulky teenager and she was trying to get his attention and he was not going to play her game. It was passive aggressive behavior – but still – why oh why were the cameras there and why would they confess this stuff to a camera?!? and worse still – why would ABC edit it in. Ed must not be the “winner” if they will advertise his dysfunction.
Jake is so YUM! Thanks for posting that pic!! Also, I think that Ed’s dad’s mustache needed to be mentioned in the category of heinous and shave off immediately.
#44 Jill was not totally naked in the tub and neither was Reid. There is a screencap somewhere of them standing in that tub with bathing suits on.
Oh good grief! Who is this Jillian woman? She isn’t remotely anything like the side-pony wearing girl from Melba’s season. Hope she is one hella decorator because actress she is not. That faux boo hooing on the rejection bench? Puhleeze. Oh and fer? She’s Canadian, not Southern. It is FOR Jillian…not fer. I’m Southern and I even know that.
Liked Ed before he went away. Did the producers send him to Area 51 because he came back a different E.D. Not liking him or his short shorts. Wonder if he uses Nair?
Reid. Run Reid Run. Find a nice girl that won’t mess Santa and all his tiny reindeer. I fear you are going to let the producers talk you into coming back and proposing or something. Don’t do it man!
Nine pack. The thought of him with a mai tai in the limo giggling about how he is the first gay guy to get to the finals in the show just makes me snicker.
Tired of all of these people. NEXT………………
Miss Santa. Not mess him. Dude is busy enough trying to make toys with the reduced elf staff that the economy has forced upon him. Don’t mess with Santa.
LOL Karen K
Great recap Lincee! I have nothing to add this week. My heart is broken over Reid. I can’t believe she let him go! I am moving to Philly and I am going to buy one of the cool condos on his website.
Why would anyone go on this show now? You just get skewered !! You MAYBE get to visit some exotic locale….but you get raked over the coals in blogs and now the mainstream press. Jillian is criticized for squealing, drinking too much, not being beautiful enough, being too skinny, kissing too many guys, asking too many questions… the girl can’t win. Kip has gone from stud to gay… how did that happen? Ed has gone from almost everyone’s favorite to a gay autistic man with bad chest hair and a ’70s wardrobe. Wes is vilified by the entire female audience. Reid is doing ok so far, but he maybe just got out in time. Why are we all so critical nowdays?
Hilarious! Great job as always, Lincee!
i love reid even more after last night. good for him for not just using the “L” word because she is asking for it every 5 seconds. he told her that he was really into her and if she really saw him as her future husband then go with that…. take it a day at a time. it has only been 6 weeks!!!!! seriously, he was not digging the fact that she was kissing all the other guys. how could anyone say that word when they know that fact??? btw — they never showed kipton saying he was committed to anything and she kept him. very disappointed in jillian. i also do love the people article today about that annoying guy that was kicked off last week and how he is having shows cancelled b/c of the bad publicity!!!! yeah green beaners!!!!
Lincee, do you really think we only hit refresh 9 times a day? More like 9 times a minute… Seriously, I stalk your page on Tuesdays! Thanks for keeping us laughing this season. Sigh, I’ll miss Reid. Maybe he’ll be the confession. I hope so.
One of my favorite sayings goes something like this:
“The only people that are normal, are those we don’t know very well.”
That’s what happened to the guys….just wondering did a great and funny job of pointing this all out in #59.
We know them and Jillian far too well now. That’s the problem!
What about Ed’s hair? He looked so goofy with it all combed down onto his forehead, and with the outfits – OY! Loved him before but once he started looking like a dufus, the rest of him started going downhill too!
Jillian in now looking too skinny. ABC must not be feeding her much- budget restraints? Ed’s clothing choices and lack of performance lead me to believe he has a BOYfriend back home. And Ed’s dad looked like a Hawaiian actor they hired to play that part; too young.
Hilarious recap Lincee, as always! I hope Reid doesn’t agree to be the next bachelor (I don’t think that would be his thing anyway) and you can pimp him out on your site! He was by far the best choice, so funny and cute and real. Jillian seemed the most comfortable around him. Her loss I guess!
I’m glad NY is not that far from Philly..
#34 My sentiments exactly! Reid had me at “I like you this much.” I loved that he admittedly is “4″ when it comes to expressing his emotions.
I HEART Reid!
#59 I don’t see the extremes either. HOW-EVER, I did like Ed lots BEFORE he came back. It wasn’t so much because he left that I like him less. It was more like the zillion little things that happened afterward. I can get over the green shorts. I think. But I HEART Reid! Other than that, it’s all in good humor.
And having said that . . . Was Ed destined for E.D. because of his name? Perhaps Jillian should’ve called him “Richie” MUCH sooner! BUT WAIT! Ed doesn’t have to change his more professional name of Edward to Richie . . . Just one little blue pill and his problem is gone.
Kip, your mom scares me.
People, my husband is short! Back off Jake’s shortness.
I’m kidding, people. No attacks, please.
And P.S.
I HEART Reid. And I agree. Run Reid, run.
ok, first I must say that I was very disappointed that the folks over at Kapalua Adventures didn’t have hottie Kevin as their zipline guide. Some of my wedding party did that course the day after our wedding last year & it was awesome! (and no, I don’t work for them, just love the tour!)
Loved this:
Jillian: “Richie is wicked awesome. He listens to ME. He knows what is important to ME and cares about ME and wants to prove to ME that he is willing to go above and beyond for ME!”
Our girl, Jill, kept using “ME, ME, ME” last night & I never once heard her say “US” or OUR”. Yup, missy, you sure are ready to be engaged with words like that. I wasn’t the biggest Reid fan, but I think he dodged a bullet last night. He was honest with her that after 5 weeks (or however long this “courtship” lasts) he may not be ready to get engaged. The way she asked each of them if they would be ready to propose was just desperate. #55-Karen-you’re right, the woman who seemed so self assured in the Melba season is no longer. This one just comes off as whiney & desperate.
And Jillian thought she embarassed her Dad last season. Lord, the quasi-porn was downright uncomfortable for me, a non-relative. I can’t imagine the joy that her parents must be experiencing after that little jem.
And Ed, Rollergirl called. She wants her shorts back.
I think Ed’s E.D was 100% due to his daisy dukes.
do yall remember when ed received the rose on his one on one date early on??? the after shots of that episode showed him sitting by the pool and the other guys come and played a prank on him. he was wearing shorty shorts then too and they were in a different color. i think black. he must really like them and thinks they are cool… ha!!!
I LOVE YOU LINCEE….bring on more paint…cheesecloth comment made me spit out my drink….
Oh Jillian….Jillian Jillian Jillian. Here is my take on the ‘confession.’ Girlfriend wants to be engaged. Period. I don’t think she really cares who it boils down to as long as she gets a proposal and ring out of this. I think the ‘issue’ will be she picks Kip and he decides he is not ready to get engaged but wants to continue to date but then finds out that Ed was going to propose after the fact…so she FREAKS out thinking she could have had a ’sure thing’ with a proposal and ring but is now without a ring and taking a gamble…just a thought…I have WAY too much time on my hands….
AGREE with the camel toe comments. ABC…seriously….
My husband’s had two great comments when he saw the short shorts were, ‘Hey. It’s Magnum P.I.!!”
and “Why is she already wearing a wedding dress at the final show?!”
And her hand on Ed’s inner thigh while talking to the parents!?! Come on Jillian!!!
AND SOMEONE please give this girl an english lesson…….
Dorothy Mantooth is a saint!!!
oh yeah and Reid is better off being let go now! PLEASE don’t let him be the next bachelor!!! He is too good for that!
Thank you, ‘#59 just wondering’! Loved your comments, well said, and I have been thinking the exact same thing.
#65 – I think Ed’s clothing choices are the one thing that we can point to that go against the notion he’s gay – no self-respecting gay guy would be caught dead in that stuff. I was talking with my girlfriend about Ed today and used the phrase “socially inept” to describe him – Jilly worries that she’s out of Kiptyn’s league, well, Ed is out of hers. In my opinion. He’s too backward socially and emotionally to deal with her and this situation. I picked Kip at the beginning and maybe that’s who it will be, but I too was throwing the remote at the TV when she let Reid go. Just last week she said: “I really like who I am when I’m with Reid” – silly girl, THAT’s the guy you marry, even if it takes longer than 7 weeks to get there.
I’m still pulling for Reid. I know he’s been kicked off and all but can’t a girl hope…..?
I’m not excited about Ed OR Kip! How can one be excited about the Final Rose?!?!?!
Looking forward to the AFTR for sure…bring on the drama.
Excellent recap, Lincee. Well done.
#68 – Susan — about the Rollergirl outfit, your comment made me think of Bethenny’s rollergirl costume she wore at the Halloween party on RHONY last season! Ed had the same shorts, just in green! hehehehe
You know Reid does seem too good for this show. Did he ever say what he was doing there? And #75, I think you are right that Ed couldn’t possibly be gay given his outfits.
All I can say is Ed has nicer legs than Jillian.
I’m among those also bummed that Reid is gone, BUT one of my favorite moments was when they were in the bubble bath, and Jillian’s talking (surprise, surprise!) and meanwhile Reid is trying (unsuccessfully) to get a bunch of bubbles from the bubble bath on his nose. For some reason, that part of the scene just seemed kind of adorable to me. Reid will make some lucky lady very happy. I just wish I lived closer so that I had the possibility of it being me!!
Oh, and I didn’t keep track of who said it, but I also noticed on the Pier 1 dresser that Ed has his arms crossed in his photo, which to me says that he’s a bit more closed off, etc. because it’s as if he’s creating a physical barrier. . . not sure why I noticed that this time, when it’s been the same photo every other week, but anyway. . . .
Looking forward to MTA next week! AWESOME recap, Lincee!!
You know how when people are in love they start to talk like the other person? In the limo Reid said “her and I” as if he wasn’t fitting right in with Jillian’s bad grammar. I don’t know if any of you saw “Crossing Delancy” 80’s movie, but all I can think of is that Reid is the pickle merchant and Jillian is stupid Amy Irving and how there is no wise grandmother to put them together.
“was” ‘was” fitting in with Jillian’s bad grammar.
this episode was brought to you by ed and the 1980s. seriously, the shorty shorts and terry tank? and then the miami vice-esque rose ceremony suit? im all for the 80s, but in a making fun of, “i can’t believe we used to walk around looking like this” kind of way.
seriously uncomfortable watching the skinemax show. why didn’t they kick the cameras out?
and maybe i’m old fashioned, but why does the sex have to be perfect the first time? obviously that’s what she’s talking about. you will have the rest of your lives together to get it perfect. yes, it’s a big deal, but it’s not the most important thing. jill even said it herself on melba’s season. when you’re 80 years old the foundational friendship is what’s going to matter, not how hot the bedroom is. i’m married and there are some times you really want to go at it but are both totally exhausted. that doesn’t mean you don’t want each other. come on, jillian. wake up and realize what’s really important.
just my two cents.
One thing I kept thinking while watching this episode was – whomever Jillian picked has got to be getting phyically ill from all the make out sessions, rub downs and general soft-core porn she was performing with all the guys. YUCK! The final guy is probably going to really get sick after watching the final 2-hour episode (along with the final guy’s immediate family).
I’m with all the other posters who said Reid will come back and propose to her later – the question is whether or not she’ll accept it.
I hope OHCH really gives it to the guys in the Men Tell All (aka – make Dave squirm, expose Wes, etc)
oh, and this is totally random, but i love that kip has suit etiquette. most guys don’t know what that is anymore. unbutton when sitting down; button when not sitting; which buttons to button depending on cut of suit. random, i know, but speaks of a gentleman.
I dated a guy like Reid in college- super cute and funny, but we never got past that… he’d flirt and hint at bigger feelings, but then college ended for me, he still had a year and I moved a couple hours away and he made no effort to continue dating me (if you would even really call it dating- you guys kow what I mean- it was college.) Anyway, it’s a decade later and I’m married to the man of my dreams with two kids and soooo glad I moved on from there and things worked out as they have. He was a great guy, but obviously he wasn’t for me. Funny thing, we chatted on facebook recently and he is still hysterical and still adorable, and still single. He never grew up. I kinda picture Reid like that. othing wrong with it. BUT if Jillian was someone he didn’t want to lose, he should have spoken up… I don’t know where this is going, but I want to figure it out together… blah, blah, blah. If he was the right one, she would have taken a chance.
One more thought- no way ED has E.D. It must be crazy editing- no one would admit to that!!!!!
Is Jill a total slut!?! Is she really sleeping or trying to sleep with all the guys!?!?!
My point…if they editted the fantasy date with ED – would they do that to the winner? Would that do that to any human? It seems hateful – true or not – for them to make this a public display – and it wasn’t even innuendo.
Lincee as always YOU ROCK GIRLFRIEND!
Loved this – Jillian: “Can it Hare. Ed adores me and that’s important.”
OHCH: “I heard he couldn’t get it up.”
Jillian: “They make pills for that.”
LMAO
So sad Reid is gone. I really don’t care who she picks now actually. Ugh… I really dug him too! I appreciated that he wasn’t saying things just b/c she wanted to hear them. That’s not real!!! Let me just say I love you b/c you want to hear it RIGHT NOW. I thought coming from the heart and being genuine about it was supposedly better. I dig Reid b/c I’m a lot like him in that respect…don’t rush things and go with the flow in fitting the special someone in your life so that it fits – not forced and wrong.
He looked soooooooooo good standing there between Kip and Ed. I always thought he was a hot tamale (SYTYCD ref) but geez louise I was melting seeing him standing there looking all yummy good!
I’ve liked Ed, but something about him coming to Jillian after she let Reid go didn’t sit right with me. I don’t know what it is…but I didn’t like it one bit. It didn’t seem right. I don’t think he should have done it, and certainly shouldn’t have made it about him in that moment. Not to mention I wasn’t feeling that outfit. What the heck!? I’m with whoever said – did he loose his luggage? Oh and that fantasy suite scene made me more uncomfortable than molly and jason’s did..and the hot tub scene! Yozah! I thought this was ABC not HBO. lol
I find it odd that she gave Reid a hard time about his answer to not saying yeah i’ll propose at the end, but Kip didn’t get that constant why not after his answer which was pretty much the same as Reid’s. Neither of them told her, yes definitely I will propose to you at the end…it was all…I could see myself maybe doing that or whatever (paraphrasing).
You my girl MaggieMay and I’ll still help you in searching out Ed in Chicago if you wish (and if he isn’t the final), but I’m a little concerned.
Thanks Amy and Stacy for the lovely pic of Jake (now…tell us…where did you hide him?) LOL
just watching now on-line. reid is very open and giving to me. i don’t understand why she had to keep saying he couldn’t express his feelings? he is adorable. totally. completely. the session with ed’s parents seemed uncomfortable – and his dad kind of seemed angry at with the what are we doing here statement.
and overall, jillian is coming across as super needy and cloying – spunk, independence, seriously, where did that go?
#83, Kit–THANK YOU!! I was thinking along the same lines with Ed. . . I just am not seeing how Ed & Jillian’s evening is ‘lacking chemistry’ just because they were too tired to do anything major (or at least that was how I interpreted the insinuation). . . .maybe it’s just me, but with as long of a day as they had, with so much going on, isn’t just ‘being together’ a good thing? I think the expectation that it needed to be something ‘more’ was not realistic on either of their parts, and just led to frustration and a let-down when it didn’t meet their high hopes. . .
Jillian sucks. I was over her like 6 episodes ago. Shes made terrible choices:
1) Jake.. what the heck was wrong with him? Oh yea, nothing!
2) Keeping whats his name on way TOO long.. like a gal trying to “fix” a gay guy.
3) Reid was just so adorable, maybe a little OCD, but still a great catch!! Aw, she doesn’t deserve him anyway. Hope he finds a girl who doesn’t squeal so much. He will be fine
I’m glad Lincee pointed out the short shorts (gross for 09) and the unfortunate chest hair! Runs in the family, like the fake dads mustache HA! Maybe their house would not have been good enough to show on TV .. bucket of fried chicken anyone? Is why he quit then came back? White trash? Just a thought. Maybe he couldnt get it up b/c the cameras were still there??? You wrote too many funny lines tonight to mention them all!! I love you Lincee! *cant wait to hear about that diet*
I have a thought on Ed’s shorts (cuz we HAVE to get to the bottom of this!) On his first one-on-one with our desperate, insecure Jill he jumped into the pool in his street shorts and belt, leading me to believe he didn’t have a bathing trunks with him. MAYBE he came to Hawaii without trunks.
So let’s say he has a good reputation with the crew; everybody all jokey and buddy-buddy off camera. The ABC Intern is sent off to acquire a pair of trunks for Bachelor #3. He thinks it would be funny to play a practical joke and brings back phys ed shorts from 1978 that he found in the hotel Lost and Found. Ed has such a good sense of humor, he says “Fine. Wanna play that game? I don’t care, I’ll show you what a good sport I am. I’ll wear them and not only that, wear them with pride. And I’m not even going to cover them up when you take me to meet those two people you hired to play my parents” And so, the shorts were a big inside joke. Good one, Bachelor crew!
Of course, that doesn’t explain the tank top or ice cream suit. Maybe they wouldn’t have looked so bad to us had it not been for the shorts?
So said Reid is gone. . can he please, please, please be the next Bachelor? I wondering if there is even a point in watching the finale. . .neither one is going to work out long term. . .oh of course I’ll watch it who am I kidding.
You know, falling asleep instead of having sex is not an erectile dysfunction. It’s something that happens between people all. the. time. When you’ve had as long and as exhausting of a day as they had, the LAST thing on my mind would have been sex. Snuggling? Oh hell yeah. But sex? Not so much. It really makes me sick that they’re harping on it that way. So stupid. I can’t count the number of times either my husband or myself has fallen asleep on each other just out of sheer exhaustion. Doesn’t give EITHER of us erectile dysfunction. And here’s a hint. Exhausted person plus relaxing massage equals sleepy time. Just sayin’.
And #83 kit, I’m totally with you. The first sexual encounters, even if you’re just so hot for each other, can often be very fraught and awkward. Especially if you set up expectations, like Jilli obviously has. And her expectations are that he’s going to automatically give her the sun and the moon and the stars when he doesn’t even know what kind of an orgasm she likes to have! I mean, come on! It’s so hypocritical to say that you want to marry your best friend and then to have doubts simply because the first real sexual encounter didn’t go off perfectly. You’ll have the rest of your lives to get it perfect, and then when you’re 80 and really and truly can’t get it up, you’ll need to have that friendship that started you down this path in the first place. If it was all based off of sex, you’re starting off on a slippery slope.
#83 and #85 Kit… love the comments! Maybe this is sharing too much info here… but we’re all “friends” right? Let me know if you all agree or not… but usually the first time ISN’T perfect!! It’s always a litlle awkward, and you usually need a few drinks just to get past the nervousness of sleeping with someone you like for the first time. I mean, you don’t know each other too well yet, and you don’t know what the other person ‘likes’… so of course it’s never really as good as you want it to be the first time with someone. Of course, there are exceptions, but I certainly would not judge relationships or chemistry on ‘our first time’.
Also, I noticed the jacket thing too…. he most certainly is a product of that crazy mother of his…. getting bopped upside the head everytime he was buttoned incorrectly. LOL!
It seems to me that Ed fell asleep. I know that takes the fun out of it for us, but I think he fell asleep…. at one point you can see him with his eyes closed…. whatever it was, I think if you really “love” someone (like Ed says) and if you are truly comfortable with a person, you are able to make light of the situation and try to relieve some of the pressure…. what about re-do in the morning…. nothing like a little morning time nookie… i’m just sayin….
Love the recap Lincee…. laughed so hard though the whole thing!!
When you are first falling in love, you don’t want to sleep!
#93 hahahahahahha ice cream suit!!!! LOL!! THat’s exactly what it llooked like…. straight out of a Dick and Jane book!
Man I love this site
Wow, I’m an idiot. I left you a comment wondering where the recap was because I had the page for entries under the “bachelorette – jillian” tag on my bookmarks and that was what I was checking, and all along this was sitting right here, just untagged! So I most definitely went and changed my bookmark.
As usual, fantastic recap! I’m already gagging at just the thought of seeing Melba and Country Club Princess again. Shoot. me. now.
But I am interested to hear about Katie! Lincee, YOU ROCK.
i was reading comments from the last post, and i propose that we all come up with a drinking game for the final rose show. like, jillian squeal – drink 1. you hear the word wicked – drink 1. jillian wraps her legs around someone – drink 2. come on, i’m sure we could come up with a really good game here! no matter what you drink, shots of tequila or whisky, would make for a very funny viewing experience. who’s with me?!
100. kit. . . I think that’s a GREAT idea!!
I was very very proud of Reid!! He is the most real person I have seen on any of these shows!!! he stayed true to himself~~ I wish he would discover lincee, he would be glad he did~~~
I like Kip! I don’t know why no one else seems to…he seems genuine and they do talk about important things. The kissing is awkward to watch though, I agree. I thought Reid was weird and am not too sad to see him go. Really thought the final would be down to Kip and Jake in the beginning…Jake for next Bachelor probably.
So, let me get this straight. First Juan was gay, then Tanner. Oh yeah, then Michael. Now Kiptyn…oh and Ed too! Seriously, these ‘gay’ comments drive me crazy. Seems like if you are either polite, well-mannered, classy, quirky, confident enough to (yikes!) put your arm around another guy, soft-spoken, a good dresser, a bad dresser, embarrassed enough to whip it out and pound a practical stranger on national TV…..you just must be gay. Hell, my husband must be gay too then.
Sorry, but labeling someone that way is just so…immature, I guess, for lack of a better word! Small-minded, maybe is a better one? I’m sure none of the guys are freakin’ gay…not that there’s anything wrong with that! I do realize that the comments aren’t even suggesting that there IS something wrong with that. My point is…I’m glad we get to see a variety of types of men on this show. Not everyone’s idea of a “real” man is a lumberjack. Branch out a bit, ladies (and gents), maybe you’ll discover that there are different types of people in this world. You may be surprised to find straight men can actually be sensitive and charming too.
Consider this – the cameras MUST stop rolling at some point when the couples are “gettin’ down”. There has to be a point where Jill kicks them out if there is actual sex involved. Soooo, IF in fact there was an E.D. situation, Jill had to tell them about it, right? If so, how biotchy is that on her part? I thought it was crappy for her to comment on it at all – especially the way the show was swinging it. Whatever happens in the boudoir should remain private between the 2 people involved. Period. If it was not E.D. or even if it was – how utterly mortifying for Ed that it aired this way. He was all concerned about what this show would do for his career. He probably had NO CLUE how low ABC could stoop. I feel awful for him and hope he’s vindicated in some way for this.
Thanks #104 – glad someone said it. The gay comments are wearing me out too! Thanks!!
Correct me if I’m wrong… but I think both Kip & Reid held off saying the “L” word to her. I thought Reid was much more revealing about his feelings in his conversations with her then Kip was. So Jill pulled a total double standard on that one. I think Reid was the “boring” choice for the show… but he would have been the real life winner. But we all know this is no longer really about falling in love & finding your partner. Its about ratings.
I’m kind of getting bitter about this…. haha!
My biggest gross-out moment was seeing Ed’s pit hair when his arm was around J. at the meet-the-parents. Ick nast. Ed’s greenie-weenie bathing suit cum shorts did make this episode riveting, though.
Ok, this has been bothering me: It was not a totem pole! Totem poles are Native American poles with carvings in them. The pole on the ropes course was just a wooden pole.
totem pole
–noun
1. a pole or post carved and painted with totemic figures, erected by Indians of the northwest coast of North America, esp. in front of their houses.
All I could think about during the Reid and Jillian bath tub scene was the scene in FRIENDS with Monica and Chandler also! Great minds think alike!
This is awesome.
Jillian: “Kip is so cute on the ropes course. All I can think about is how he looks like a baby giraffe!”
Lincee: Really? Because all I can think about is his junk.
LMAO
#104 and #106— ditto, ditto.
Thanks for nipping that in the bud!
Hey Lincee – another fantastic recap!!
I don’t know if this has been commented on or not, and I wasn’t paying attention when they shot this, but I think what Reid and Jilli were eating on the beach was probably taro chips. Taro is very popular, and kind of the go-to starch in Hawaii. It’s like a potato, but purple. They’ll often mix sweet potato chips and taro chips together. Very tasty!!
I’m so excited they’re going to the Big Island for the finale – that’s where my husband is from, and where his family lives (half actually live on Oahu, though). The Big Island is often looked over in favor of Oahu and Maui, but it is a spectacular place. Can’t wait to see what they do and where they go there!
Thanks Karen K #55! I now have a visual of Ed sitting pool side or in a kick line with his shorty shorts singing:
“Who wears short shorts? If you dare wear short shorts, Nair for short shorts.” At least, that’s how I think it goes.
If he does use Nair, it might help him with the weird chest hair problem.
What about me? Could you love me? Do you love me? Could you marry me? What about your past relationships were similar to me and would you leave me too or would being me make it better? Are you insecure about me? What about me makes you want to continue things? If I wasn’t me would you want to keep dating me? Is our chemisty better because of me? How come you don’t F me on the street right now? Does that mean that you don’t see a future with me?
Shoot me!!! I do have to admit forgetting about Crazy Dave and that I am slightly excited about watching the men tell all….
“And all I could think about is the time Chandler and Monica are in a bath and Monica hides under the bubbles when Joey comes in to ask if Chandler wants some chicken.”
OMG I loved this and all your posts! Reid is so Chandler and I love that! I’m going to start calling him “My little Bing-a-ling”
OK, #104, I gotta defend myself and all of the other “gay speculators”–I understand your point, but its probably immature to be discussing male junk and cameltoes, too. I certainly don’t want to be called “small-minded” for wondering “aloud” if some of the dudes have gay tendencies. This blog is all about sarcastic and sometimes irreverent humor, the EXTREME wit and hilarious observations of our fearless leader, Lincee, and most of all…FUN! Its all in good fun, folks!!!
I think that the Ed “character” is an ABC creation. The whole story line seems fabricated – gone, back, E.D., Ken doll outfits, very odd but oh so loving parents….plus, who could fall in love with such an obnoxious creature?
Be obnoxious creature, I mean Jilly, of course.
#118, I think you may be right. From his name (e.d. = ED) to keeping the camera rolling during the fs scene, it may just be ABC’s little trick on us all. Hey, maybe that will be the big “confession” at the end–that he’s a big fake!
I also thought of the chandler bath episode!
And I have to say yesterday I came to appreciate Ed’s legs in his short shorts. I was at the park and there was a dude running wearing short shorts and he was very pasty and hairy and not toned, it was kind of gross.
Lincee! PLEASE DO SHARE what your friend did to lose 27 pounds in 30 days…..
thanks!
#122–I agree! I have a high school reunion coming up in a couple of months so I have time for a diet like this
It seems like people are forgetting that we don’t see 75% or greater of Jillian’s actual dates. Kiptyn may really have told Jillian how he felt, but it was edited out. Ed may have explained his clothing but it was edited out. I am not sure I agree with those who think that Ed is not going to be F1 because they are showing so much about him now. It could be that the producers want people to think that there is no way that she would pick him. Or I could be wrong and it could be like the earlier Bachelor shows that she picks the sleeper – Kiptyn.
Does anyone know for which airline Jake is a pilot?
From the scenes of the FRC, it looks like she is talking to Reid again – at least it looks like the back of his head. More drama…
#125 Lauren — Delta
I’m going to stick with the notion that Ed’s luggage was lost on his trip to Hawaii. And he didn’t think to ask his folks to bring him some swim trunks when they headed down on their mystery trip.
E.D. or not, I still like Richie. I think he’s real and normal and hell… Jillie’s hot (See, she’d totally love me) so I can imagine the pressure being too much. Plus, I’m not 100% convinced it was an e.d issue… But that’s just me.
Krypotonite is… well I can’t describe him… He just needs to relax I think.
I am just heartbroken she sent Reid home unless we could campaign for him to be the next Bachelor??? I too think Reid was telling her that he had incredibly strong feelings for her but was terrified of saying everything and not getting picked. I would take that much more over kiptyn’s “I think I couuld be falling in love with you”. Seriously Jillian…..Her and Reid’s dates were actually fun to watch because they seemed to have so much fun together. Ed gives me the creeps! There is something wrong with a man who NEVER looks you in the face when you are talking to him. And don’t even get me started on how uncomfortable the FS scene with Ed was. UGH!!!
The ‘gay’ comments don’t necessarily have to do with changing ‘our’ minds about someone.
Do you mean to tell me you can’t tell sometimes when someone is gay??? And I’m not talking about men who TRY to make it obvious, but men who don’t try to make it obvious, but still ARE (gay).
You’re not gonna fool me into some ridiculous PC-guilt. It’s not ’sensitivity’ or ‘charm’ that makes some of these guys seem gay . . . it’s more than that.
I have a friend who has said from the beginning that she thinks that Kip is gay. FROM DAY ONE.
She happens to have excellent ‘gaydar’ so WEEKS ago, I jokingly asked her, ‘So, what about Ed?’ She said, ‘Ed’s straight. Ish.’
And here we are, weeks later, and Ed pulls out the green shorty shorts, tank tops, and Robin’s egg suit?
Please.
It’s not immature to speculate that someone is gay . . . come on! Stereotypes are there because they’re rooted in fact, like it or not. Sorry.
Thank you, #117 – - this blog is supposed to be FUN. And sometimes, men come across as gay. And you know what? *gasp* . . sometimes, they are.
As much as I really love Reid (please refer to my posting name)…. I do really like Kiptyn too!! First of all, HCFM President or not, the guy is SMOKIN’ hot. All you Kip haters need to quit with the “sour grapes’ and just hop on the bandwagon. His body is perfect (Lincee’s ‘ well,my 8th ab isn’t quite as defined as the others’….almost spewed my Diet Coke out of my mouth!!), he has great eyes, a fantastic smile, and great skin tone. Plus, he is educated, cultured, extremely well mannered, and I think he’s pretty honest with Jillian about the way he is feeling. There are a couple of issues I am forseeing here. Obviously ‘numero uno’ is that crazy ass mother of his. Good Lord I can guarantee that woman will be a force to be reckoned with throughout their ENTIRE relationship. Their only hope is for them to live far away so she can’t be too much of a nag (sad, butI know this from experience!). Another issue is that I think Kip has had the “one foot in one foot out” attitude because he has probably dated girls who are equally as good looking as him who are your sterotypical California daddy’s girl bimbos. I went to Florida State University, and I have known plenty of guys who look like Kiptyn…. they have never had to worry about persuing a girl…. ever…. they flock…. without any effort whatsoever on his part. Guys like him have options of beautiful women at all times. As much as I have known guys like Kiptyn, I know even more of the girls who ‘flock’…. and trust me, 99% of those girls are not the kind of girl you want to settle down with. It is probably the reason he came on the show, to find a girl who is real and who likes him for him…. this is where the problem comes in…. Jillian is being just like all the others, and seems to like Kiptyn for his nine pack. It seems like every time she talks about him, it’s all superficial stuff…. This all comes back to Jillian’s need to relax. She is so uptight all the time and talks ALL the time and its like her mind never stops for a second. She’s too concerned with all the questions from #115 (well said!) to get to know the guy and to just enjoy the moment. Just chill Jillian!!!!!
As for Ed, I’m just not a fan…. he seems way too uncomfortable and the things he says really seem like a script from the ABC intern. He’s a good looking guy, chest hair and all…. I just don’t like him so much.
I love Reid, and whoever said “i think he dodged a bullet” was right… Reid honey bear… go off and find yourself a sweet beautiful woman with REAL expectations. We know you’ll have absolutely no problem
I seriously hope she does not pick Kip, and even moreso that Kip is NOT the next Bachelor. Ish.
The only thing going through my head after that episode is “He wore an itsy bitsy teeny weeny green and white stripped man-kini that Jilly saw for the first time today” Didn’t anyone else hear Ed refer to his shorts as a “man-kini” I almost wet my pants….
#79 Caroline – I totally agree. Ed has GREAT legs, way better than Jillian.
#104 – Agree about the gay comments, or at least the overuse of, but feel #117 did a good job of defending it as good fun. This is a hilarious and sarcastic place to be, so I’m not going to go all “overly sensitive” because this is a forum for fun. And I go to other boards where the general rule is bashing other’s statements, that’s awful to read, especially when it’s gets over analoyzed and misconstrued. I’ve loved this board because of all the good natured, non-mean spirited banter.
I’m just glad the worst Bachlorette in history is the first non-American. She is ruining Canadians everywhere. My honeymoon was in Puerto Vallarta and for some reason EVERYONE there that week were Canadians. They all rocked and we had so much. She needs to just STOP. NOW.
I do have to admit though…after hearing Wes’s interview on Reality Steve he did endear himself to me. I’m not saying he’s not a jerk, but I don’t still believe he’s the ridiculous asshole he was made out to be.
Ok, ok, I have to put my 2 cents in on the e.d. thing. The first time my husband and I were together ‘in that way’ he had a little performance anxiety. He’s a very sensitive guy, and he had such strong feelings for me that it made him too nervous. Ed seems like my husband a lot in that way – sensitive, willing to share his feelings, and as we found out, maybe thinking Jillian is too good for him. So maybe he just got too nervous. I think we should all give him a break. My husband is my best friend, I love his sensitivity, and the sex for me has been great after that first time and just gets better the longer we are together. I’m sure Ed will be just fine.
I just think it is so so strange that the camera crew was there to catch the aftermath of the e.d. scene. Is that weird to anyone else? It’s like they stood out in the hall waiting for some cue to come back in. I don’t have a good memory but can anyone remember in Bachelor/ette history where we saw the couple after the closed the doors in the FS? Very strange.
#136 Erin–I totally agree. Makes no sense whatsoever.
#134 “And I go to other boards where the general rule is bashing other’s statements, that’s awful to read, especially when it’s gets over analyzed and misconstrued. I’ve loved this board because of all the good natured, non-mean spirited banter.”
I completely agree with this. I appreciate that there are (almost) no personal attacks toward other posters on this board.
Erin #136, I completely agree with you too. The idea of Jillian saying, “Come on in guys, it didn’t happen, and Ed’s crying so you might want to get this on tape!” is just ridiculous to me.
#126 I’mjustsaying – I noticed the back of the had scene for the previews too. At first I thought it was Reid, but then decided it was OHCH.
#134 and #136 – I almost agree with you. Things are good-natured here, LINCEE is always above it all with her postings. I’ve never read anything from her that labels anyone a certain way. Her comments are always hilarious and driven by the situation presented on the show. I’ve never heard (read) her generalize any of the contestants into any category and I applaud her for that. I used to read comments thinking that that type of caliber existed amongst her readers. I too was getting annoyed with the gay generalizations, and hope #104 was just trying to nip it in the bud, not start up this whole hoopla. Then I just read this, “It’s not immature to speculate that someone is gay . . . come on! Stereotypes are there because they’re rooted in fact, like it or not. Sorry.” …and I’m officially done reading the comments. That’s just ignorance I don’t want to have any part of. Sorry. It’s why I don’t read other blog comments as well. I’ll keep reading the blog though Lincee…keep on keeping on!!
#136 above should have been #138, sorry. OK, officially done now with this board! Sorry.
#100 a drinking game on the final show would be wicked awesome! I’m going on record, I didn’t hate Ed’s shorts. I kinda liked them, just not so much on the tank top.
“To top if off, due to the of process of elimination, we know Ed is the one with erectile dysfunction So I’m just more uncomfortable knowing that awkward moment is coming.”
I was painfully uncomfortable, but cut Ed some slack, I can’t believe they aired all that.
All in all, no matter which team you are on, Jillian’s final 3 were pretty great guys.
I too was sad to see that she didn’t pick Reid (OK, sad isn’t the exact word, I was yelling at the tv when Ed’s name came out of Jillian’s mouth instead of Reid’s) but I do have a little hope that he will be back since I have heard that he was not on the MTA episode. I also heard that HWMNBN wasn’t either, so MTA this year may be a little boring. I personally don’t care to see the Las Vegas get together of the ‘rejects’ and hear anything about Molly and Melba. I just wanted Jillian to pick Reid.
Was the oil scene a “recreation”? It was icky…I couldn’t watch.
Maybe I’m the only one, but I hope that Jason and Molly are happy together. I definitely think Jason should have done things differently (ie. not break off his engagement to melissa on national tv), and Molly was not my favorite of last season’s show. Maybe I’m too much of a hopeless romantic, but to me it’s nice to know that two people found each other even if it took a few extra steps.
Okay y’all. Call me the mushy, sentimental girl, but I loved the fact that Ed came over to Jilli when she was crying after Reid left. To me, it showed he had compassion for her pain, while Kip stood over there like a bump on a log.
Now granted he did look like the Good Humor ice cream man in his get-up, but it is something about him that I like. Kip – I liked in the beginning, but he is just as wobbly as Reid when it comes to the commitment conversation. At least, Ed came out and told the girl how he feels.
Now for the rest of the things ya’ll notice, like the camel toe & Kipster’s package, I guess I never look that deeply at the screens during the show. I’ll take your word for it, okay!
Did anyone ever think that Ed did not perform because he was date number THREE of THREE? EWWW! I don’t blame him for not going on that journey if he was not sure what tourists had ventured there before!!! I’m just sayin’!
Has anyone noticed how important it was to Jillian to meet the guys’ families and yet she never introduced them to her family? Does this strike anyone else as odd? They were in her hometown and yet they never meet? Cheesy Ed made a smart move by bringing his parents to HI but she definitely fit in the best with Reid and his family.
Kimberly – I hope Jason and Molly are happy, too! I’m also happy that Melissa has gone with her future and not wallowing in Jason’s rejection. The best revenge (if you call it that) is finding a guy and getting engage, while the dude that dumped you wobbles along with the 2nd choice chickie!
#77 – Lacia C Said,
“#68 – Susan — about the Rollergirl outfit, your comment made me think of Bethenny’s rollergirl costume she wore at the Halloween party on RHONY last season! Ed had the same shorts, just in green! hehehehe”
SHOUT OUT TO RHONY WATCHERS!!! So true…good laugh!
Is it just me, or does Jillian seem smashed on half of the episodes? Ok, Canadians do like to party, and we can party hard, but is it just me, or is she drinking in almost every scene? Ok, excluding the rose ceremonies? Could that be affecting judgment…..?
Seems like a tie for Ed’s shorts. God help us if they show up for sale on Kijiji.
I have to agree that this website is terrific, glad to see all of us can discuss in hilarity of so many things on this show.
I have a question– why aren’t Jillian’s parents meeting these guys? I’m fairly new to this show, so maybe I’m wrong, but i was thinking F1 and F2 met the Bachelor/Bachelorette’s family? The guys went to Jillian’s hometown, but they never met her family, did they?
Even if Jillian’s family was on last season, wouldn’t it make sense (if this all was real) for these guys to meet the people who are supposedly so important to her?
Hahaha, I just saw #147 after posting my comment.
Ditto!
I was assuming her parents would be meeting the guys on the final episode.
#147 ––Jillian’s parents are coming to Hawaii. Actually, they were in Jillian’s hometown (i.e. the town where she lives), but I believe her parents live somewhere else, and they were there so early in the process. The Bach’s parents aren’t generally introduced to anyone but the final 2, so this is following script for the most part…
#107 – Joy Said, “Correct me if I’m wrong… but I think both Kip & Reid held off saying the “L” word to her. I thought Reid was much more revealing about his feelings in his conversations with her then Kip was. So Jill pulled a total double standard on that one”
I agree with you Joy. Kip has only said I could see myself falling in love with you…I think a proposal is premature etc etc.
Reid was letting her know how he feels at what level was comfortable for him. His saying that “I’m 4″ in communicating was sweet! And usually 4 year olds etc say directly how they feel and don’t sugarcoat it! =D I think being in the mix she got lost in what she was looking for b/c she always described it exactly when she talked about him.
Honestly after this whole season I don’t see how any of them can say I love you to hear or her to them. May be a strong like, but I think she’s reaching if she’s expecting an I love you from all of them. I didn’t like the at least I’m falling in love part of her speech either. Yeah that’ll make ME feel better! NOT! I still like her, but I don’t know if this was the right choice for her to do just yet.
151- I agree with 153. The parents meet with her final two choices in one of the last episodes.
In DeAnna’s season, she had her final two, Jesse and Jason, meet her parents at the same time. AWKward.
Whoops! I see I was a little slow in my response.
To Kimberly #145 & Koko #148 – I totally agree. While the whole thing sucked for Melissa, and I still have no idea if it was Jason’s idea or the producers, I do hope that they are happy together. If not, then all of it would be in vain, It is bittersweet, but sometimes things go down in a way that hurts people, but somehow everyone winds up ok. Melissa just got engaged too! She will end up getting married before Jason and Molly!
I;m hoping #154 is right…. i’ve been wondering when they are going to meet HER family?
I missed this on the show, but just saw a comment on another board (this is not a spoiler). At some point Ed’s mom said that she was coming around to the idea of this, yet didn’t he say when he first met Jillian that his mom signed him up for the show? Don’t these people know what’s going into what when you sign up for things? Research first or something. Just seems odd to say that when she supposedly signed him up. Not saying you can’t be nervous about it fine, but have an idea then of what you are getting your son into then. Not trying to diss the parents but that is just odd. And I’m from Chicago darn it!
Meeting the Bach/ette’s family isn’t until it is the final 2 – #154 – Missy is correct in that.
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http://www.reidrosenthal.com/
Phone number and everything! You’re welcome.
#83, #75 and all the others…I am totally with you on the massage + exhausted person = sleep! My husband KNOWS better than to massage me at night if he has ulterior motives. We learned that the hard way many times…I always fell asleep when he was ready to go! Also, we agreed on our honeymoon night to not “do anything” because we knew we would be exhausted. His idea! It also took about a week into our honeymoon to get everything to be really, really good for us both. Sorry that this may be TMI… But reality does have to be considered in this crazy “non-reality” show!! I hope Jillian wisens up on all accounts!
Sorry, #95, not #75!
Ok, since everyone is talking about Melba and Molly after I posted that I had no desire to see them on the MTA, let me just say that I wish them no ill will, I just don’t have any desire to see them on a show that is supposed to be about the men on THIS season, telling all, lol. Thus the title, MTA.
I am totally with you Patty!!!
Chick is a moron for ditching Reid. I wanted to smack her every time she asked someone the “But are you going to PROPOSE to me at the end of this?” question. It’s getting worse and worse and I think the producers are messing with her, saying stuff like, “You need to get an answer out of these guys about a proposal. They should totally propose to you because you’re worth it and you DESERVE it and anyone who won’t promise to propose after 5 weeks and 4 dates total isn’t worth your time. No go, go, go!!”
I do have to say, though, that when Jillian and Reid hugged in the beginning of their date, I was worried she had the “I’m not feeling it” look in her eyes, but I couldn’t tell. And every other interaction they have ever had, it sure looks like they are falling in love to me.
As much as I want Reid to come back and claim Jilly for his own, 1) I don’t think Jillian will take him back as the winner, even if he is producer-pressured to spout the L-word and get down on one knee, and 2) I know in the end he’s better off without her and without this show. Kind of like that sweet Matt guy from Meredith’s season: he got rejected, was classy about it, and slipped back into the real world to eventually fall in love and get married. That is what will happen to Reid — though maybe in 5 years or so, when he is truly ready.
Guys, I don’t think it’s a good idea for any of us (no matter how much we love him) to call Reid at work! He’s got a job to do and that life of his (b/c he’s a realtor) must be ‘public.’
But that doesn’t make it right for any of us to call him . . . that’s kind of stalkery/creepy, anyway.
(Even if you weren’t serious Ashley, someone reading might be, which is why I’m saying that.)
And to ‘no more reading comments for me’ – - I don’t wish to make this personal at all because this is Lincee’s blog and I like the comradeire, here, but . . . you’re serious that this made you so upset:
(Then I just read this, “It’s not immature to speculate that someone is gay . . . come on! Stereotypes are there because they’re rooted in fact, like it or not. Sorry.” …and I’m officially done reading the comments. That’s just ignorance I don’t want to have any part of. )
It’s pretty rude to call someone else ‘ignorant.’ Are you actually going to argue that stereotypes aren’t rooted in fact in any way, shape, or form? Then how could they EXIST unless a number of people saw evidence of them and believed them to be representative of someone/something.
They may not be RIGHT, but they exist. And it’s not “ignorant” to say so.
Frankly, it’s “ignorant” to deny the existence of something you consider ‘ugly.’
Stereotypes based in fact may equal ugliness – - but they both exist.
Pretending they don’t is foolish.
I’m done making ’serious’ comments now, no matter what responses come – - on with the fun!
Great recap as always Lincee…. my father in law had some shorts like E.D.’s and everytime my mother in law threw them away, he would dig them out of the trash. She finally buried them in the neighbor’s yard.
I read something in another website and did’t believe it so I rewatched the ending of Monday’s show and couldn’t believe my ears…..
******WARNING POSSIBLE SPOILER*******
As Jillian is walking Reid to the limo and their backs are to the camera she says, “Call me” (listen very carefuly) and as Reid turns to get into the limo, he smiles and he says, “No, you call me”……
WTF… I think ABC is trying to pull another fast one like last season and this is all a farce…. Jillian obviously has a connection with Reid and they have convinced them to do this to make this THE MOST DRAMATIC ROSE CEREMONY EVER…..or she just wants to continue making out with Ed and Kip until she “commits” to Reid…..
This is random and makes me sound like a loser…. but does anyone else watch Deisnger’s Challenge on HGTV?? OHCH is the host for this show as well… love him
BTW, anyone that reads his blog… I wonder if he reads this one too? Did you notice how he said “it was nice to know I was missed”? hah!
But Patty, #165, how else would they be able to draw the whole thing out into two hours? They’ve GOTTA have the endless recaps and “What are they up to now?” updates. Otherwise it would be quite the short MTA episode…which, by the way, would be fine with me.
I just hope they show Fred and Noelle again. How cute were they?!
I just ate some pineapple and thought of y’all…IHGB is taking over my life.
#168- Mandy Said,
“Guys, I don’t think it’s a good idea for any of us (no matter how much we love him) to call Reid at work! He’s got a job to do and that life of his (b/c he’s a realtor) must be ‘public.’
But that doesn’t make it right for any of us to call him . . . that’s kind of stalkery/creepy, anyway”
Mandy I highly doubt anyone would do this. Also Reid’s website has been posted many a times before and never have I got the impression that someone would do that, nor did I get that impression from the person who just posted it, regardless of what they said. Anyone who goes on a reality show has opened the door wide open for their lives to be put on display and for people to know who they are.
Let’s all chill and relax and enjoy this board for what it is – good fun and great recaps by Lincee! We’ve always been that way and I hate to see it turn into something ugly b/c of things being taking personally or out of proportion. I’m not saying no one isn’t entitled to their opinion or feelings but all this commentary is for fun and banter. That’s the point of having a sense of humor…go with the flow and enjoy and skip over the things that annoy you – life’s too short.
Not trying to get on a soapbox but we all got good humor here and I hate to see that go away.
#171 Team Reid – “This is random and makes me sound like a loser…. but does anyone else watch Deisnger’s Challenge on HGTV?? OHCH is the host for this show as well… love him ”
YES!! I love that show..and channel!
#170 H-town Aggie…I didn’t hear that but I did notice they both had a very quick smile before the door to limo closed.
#170…I am so bummed I deleted the episode! I say I actually LIKED Ed’s outfit at the rose ceremony. He looked very preppy and he had BIG feet! (maybe it is better for Jillian he couldn’t, uh, uh… you know). I am blushing. Not really, but it makes me feel like less of a pig.
OMG!!! #170 is right….. that exchange does happen! For all of you like myself that dont have TiVO… you can re-watch it on ABC episode player… you have to watch like four 30 second commercials to get to it, but it’s toward the end (obviously)… after they hug goodbye in front of the limo, so says “call me”… as he’s steping into the limo he smiles and says “you call me”….
hmmmmmmmm.,…..
the rope bridge reminded me of tony little’s terrible piece of exercise equipment called the Gazelle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sob3VyQ-bt4
#160 saggleo–I don’t think his mother signed him up, he had said that his mother thought Jill would be perfect for him, but his mom said she “didn’t think he would do it”. So I took that to mean he signed himself up on his mother’s suggestion?
#179 Missy – Oh crap now I’m gonna have to go back and look online b/c I want to know now! LOL I need an intervention – reality tv is taking up wayyy too much time!
At first I thought my age had caught up with me because I completely missed noticing Kip’s sports package; it now occurs to me I missed it because I was practicing the hide-my-face-with-a-pillow technique for later in the show. Honest to Ernest, I thought I’d sat on the remote and accidentally switched to an XX channel. And the little munchkin worried about her father seeing her in the HOT TUB?
Lincee, as you’ve been told now, oh, maybe 150 times, this was perhaps your best recap yet — I attribute it all to the beige paint fumes!
I like Jillian but there are some things that really bothered me this episode.
1) Badgering Reid constantly on their date. Anyone can say they love you….what’s important is some one who can show they love you.
2) When Jillian met Ed’s parents she was wearing that short skirt and didn’t cross her legs. I cringed…I really don’t think your prospective in-laws need to see that (or us watching at home, for that matter.) Ed, however, did cross his legs, which I also found funny.
3) As Jillian and OHCH mention in their blogs, we didn’t get to see all of the dates. For example, Reid and Jilli apparently got a couples massage on the beach. But instead of showing more of Reid or Kip’s dates, we get 40 minutes of fluff at the end-why? Seriously, all three dates were over with still 40 minutes of show left. It was unbelievable. I thought for sure some more drama was going to go down. I can’t believe I wasted the better part of an hour just to hear some lame video messages and see Jillian send home the best guy.
***One thing I really liked was Reid calling himself “honey bear”. Simply adorable.
JT – You are right of course. I plan on dvr’ing that puppy and using my fast forward alot, lol!
Also, for the Chris Harrison fans out there, he has a facebook page now. if you read his blogs from EW you know this one is really him because he says all the recaps of his blogs are listed on his fb page. I think I will leave a comment that he should check out Lincee’s blogs since they are so great.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/pages/Chris-Harrison/99378986558?ref=nf
There’s a new video of Reid after the rose ceremony on the abc website!
Dear Mandy and No Comments Reading person,
you are ruining my comment reading experience with your lectures and seriousness. Take it outside please…..
#185 LOL!
OHCH rocks – from his blog –
“I forgot to mention one more huge technological achievement I just realized. This is my first time blogging at 30,000 feet in the air. Congrats! We all became members of the mile high club together. I trust it was as good for you as it was me.”
Yes, Chris…yes it was good! LOL
#81 Renee — Right on the money — “Crossing Delancey” indeed! (Adorable movie, by the way — LOVE Bubbie!)
The people who’ve noticed how different Ed was from when he initially left to now — astute observation! Hadn’t thought about it until now, but spot on — I’m wondering if the bachelors get help with clothing; when he left and came back that help/advice ceased, and what we’re seeing is the real Ed, with the goofball hotpants and the Caesar haircomb.
And the moment-after scene where Jillian is sitting on Ed and he’s lying face down — ya think maybe he’s absolutely mortified to be filmed at that dreadfully uncomfortable moment, hence his determination to keep his face from the camera???
Were I 20 years younger I’d have been on a plane to Philly yesterday morning!
#188 – loves waves said “Were I 20 years younger I’d have been on a plane to Philly yesterday morning!”
Shoot, if i had the ability to go through the tv like the girl from “The Ring” I would have done just that! Even if it was taped months ago…wouldn’t stop me from trying! lol
I gotta do some work! lol
#189
Work? what is this “work” you speak of??
#190 – LMAO Jillywill! None apparently since I can’t stay away from this site!!! 1 and and 15 mins till HAPPY HOUR!!!!! (translation – I’m getting a drink after work – that I’m not doing!)
DOH – 1 hour and 15 mins till… man you’d think i’d be drinking already! hmmm
LOVE your posts, girl! Reid is by far my favorite. While I am sad I don’t get to see him anymore, I fear it is for the best. Let’s face it, if Jillian and Reid ended up together at the end of the show – they would have a 1 in 25 chance of actually staying together. Hopefully, he will be calling you soon!
For all the Reid fans out there….I stumbled across this little gem.
http://reid.rosenthal.foxroach.biz/meetreid.htm
He’s also on Facebook.
#171: Where have you been? OHCH has been reading (and contributing on occasion) to Lincee’s blog for years.
#109: in the ‘ropes course’ world, they ARE called totem poles — just saying
Awesome recap Lincee. I laughed through the whole thing…. thanks!
Lucky me lives in Philly, where Polly Pocket’s loss is our gain. I will be keeping my eyes peeled for Reid!! If you ever happen to pimp him out, I call first dibs.
My favorite part of the episode was Ed’s dad saying “what the hell is going on?? why are we here?” Such a hilarious and genuine reaction to the ridiculousness of the whole situation, even if Ed had explained it to his parents beforehand.
Team Reid – your posting under the “larry bird shorts” blog I think is the best description of Jillian yet.
“TEAM REID
Said, #95 i like your post for the most part, but I disagree with your understanding Jillian. I think all of us have been in a relationship at somepoint where the other person SAYS “I love you” but their actions contradict what they are saying. If Jillian wants to continue down the road of “Mr. Wrong” she can just go on believing what the guys say to her. If you think about it, these guys have been on a total of 5 or 6 dates with her, in real life it would be considered “psycho” if someone was dropping L-Bombs on date numer 5. Not only that, but Ed missed 2 date opportunities, and HE was the one who said he loved her? It just doesn’t make sense. Jillian has said over and over again that she wants her best friend, someone who is real, who she can be herself around, and who makes her laugh. She had all of that with Reid, but she could not seem to relax long enough to let him develop feelings at a NORMAL pace. It seems like she is way more concern with finding someone who will propose rather than finding the one who is actually RGHT for her.
If it were up to me, I would rather be with the one who takes a year or two to propse, rather than the one who propses after six weeks and then is out the door after six months. It’s just silly and I think she is still making very immature decisions.”
Completely agree! While they have the time constraint on this show, I think if people in this situation looked more at a person actions versus just on what they say there would be a lot more success from this show possibly than there has been. Reid was all about her. He may not have even realized that he was actually communicating clearly in actions how he really felt about her! And she missed it too! Can’t fault him on words when she’s not reading actions!
Would anyone be able to post a link to Jillian’s blog entry from this week, I cannot find it anywhere!
http://tvwatch.people.com/category/the-bachelorette/
I have a friend visiting from out of state and her teenagers wanted to watch The Bachelorette on Monday night. I have been a faithful watcher for years but am so disgusted (and bored!) with Jillian that I quit watching this installment after the second episode. I still read Lincee’s blog though, so I was curious to see what is going on and my friend’s kids turned the channel. OMG! I had to ask them to turn it off after less than 3 minutes because my 8 year old was in the room! When did The Bachelorette become soft core porn?
Just a couple more comments…
#15 – Saying that someone “has issues” because he can’t get it up once in a while is extremely unkind. I haven’t experienced that with a man and I’m sure it’s super frustrating, but come on. “Issues?”
#23 – You’re missing out if you dismiss men just because of what they wear. I was not a fan of the short shorts but would I end a relationship over it? No. I’m not anywhere near that shallow. The guy I currently date wears tank tops daily and looks fantastic in them! He works on a boat here in Hawaii and it’s part of his uniform. His arms are tanned and toned and he ROCKS that tank top! It’s not tight or ribbed…just a typical guy’s tank top that falls straight from the shoulders. Maybe you’re just looking at pasty, skinny guys in tank tops. That would turn ANYONE off!
Ok, I Love Lincee’s blog! I mean, tears rolling down my face, burst out loud laughing in a quiet office, funny! But wow! The comments are brutal. I personally thought that the shorty shorts were hilarious on Ed, and that he was intentionally being playful and funny with those things. He even called them his “mankini”. And the additional footage at the end, where he talked about his sexy legs and gut region was just too funny. I don’t know, I just don’t get all the Ed hate. I think he’s adorable….and OMG way too much editing on this week’s epi. Wonder what ABC is up to.
Sorry I’m not believing that was E.D. Simply- Jilly was givinv Ed a back massage. He fell asleep. Insecure Jilly took that as “He’s just not that into me” and pouted. ABC was still in the room because they weren’t to the part of the date in which the get “kicked out”. I wish they would have been kicked out WAY before we saw Jil’s left nipple, but I digress. ABC just took this little story and spun it to E.D. because Ed and Jilly spoon fed them some comments that could be misconstrued.
I felt Ed wore his tiny weeny green bikini in play. But after the initial exposure, I was hoping he would put some pants on. I wasn’t suprised to see the softish, hairy stomach though. I spied it on their first date!
I’m not sure what to think of Ed’s robo parents. That was just odd. Something didn’t settle right. But after seeing his dad, I can see how Ed would be a computer techie.
I miss Reid.
He was adorable. Sure he struggled with telling her his feelings, but who wouldn’t? Jill never told him how SHE felt so why would she expect him to do the same. Seriously- if a guy is toeing the line with their feelings, the easiest way to get them to open up is to grab the bull by the horns and confess your feelings first. Reid was holding back because he didn’t want to be rejected. Just my opinion.
Kyp- no thoughts. He’s just kinda there.
I had to come back and add one more thing. Just read Jillian’s blog and she said this: “So, that feeling that I have been looking for was definitely there with Reid, but the promise of any sort of commitment or partnership wasn’t there. And because I have been hurt before by not being realistic, it made me put up a wall and inevitably led to me letting Reid go. ”
I’m sorry- she’s even MORE ridiculous. She admits the feelings were there, but she had to be “realistic.” ummm- I guess having a guy profess his love in 6 weeks time span is “realistic.” So is getting engaged after what….8 weeks? Yep- everyone’s doing it. My husband and I were together 3 years before we were married. I guess we were the unrealistic ones.
I hate to say this but I think The Bach/ette show has “jumped the shark”. This whole bedroom scene with the graphic and intimate footage is so staged…they filmed their supposed “private” moments for ratings. They’ve never gone this far with it before and I don’t get Ed’s motivation to go along with ruining his manly reputation or Jillian’s motivations for making it public…what a weird, damaging thing to do. It just doesn’t add up. Jillian and Ed must be edited to oblivion to manipulate the audience…why?! They had a good show! I loved this show. Now it’s a joke.
Also, Ed going to Jill when she was boo-hooing on the bench (so fake crying!) and asking her to trust his desire for her…don’t know how they kept straight faces through it.
I went back to abc.com to listen for the “call me” and with my earphones on and the volume all the way up, I couldn’t tell what Jillian said, but Reid said, “Good luck.” that’s all I heard.
I must add one more thing…..JAKEY!!!!!!!!!! I miss you! I think he’s my absolute favorite ever, despite the totally staged girlfriend scene. <3
I’m sitting here watching an old episode of Friends and I just had a revelation. As we’ve previously noted Reid is totally Chandler Bing. Ed on the other hand is totally Ross Geller. Kip is most like…Phoebe’s boyfriend who was played by Paul Rudd. And Jillian…is Monica. And we all know who Monica ended up with
I don’t really understand all of the sudden love for Reid. Okay, he was funny…okay…he was “real” so are most guys I know. Did he know he was signing up for a show called the “Bachelorette” where the end result usually invovles at least the indication of a very large commitment resulting in marriage? If you have a fear of comittment, you don’t go on this show. EASY!
I agree with Jillian on her choice with that one. It’s not really about “love” but about being realistic…getting married is not all about fleeting “feelings” its about a decision to commit. Reid didn’t seem to be able to separate the two things, I think Jillian is more mature and knows its more about the commitment and readiness to settle down than just the development of feelings.
If making a deep comittment after 6 dates makes you skirmish…you don’t go on a show that is about getting married.
I also didn’t think Reid was that great when it came to family. He basically said “I could not be with anyone my family disapproves of” oh wow…and his dad even said Reid needed to grow up and make his own decisions. Very childish.
Cute, charming, funny…sure. Ready for marriage, no. And I question what he was doing on the show.
Also, he is Jewish? (not sure but its been said here). That is a very real thing to consider if you are not Jewish. Combining different faiths is a huge deal and something to consider.
I like Ed…and his parents seemed normal to me. I am from Chicago too and they were refreshing to me. I can’t beleive someone above called them trashy or whatever. Give me a break. They were real Americans who are the only ones who have nothing obvious to gain from this show….same with Ed. Whats with the suspicoun? Ed works with computers…he took a RISK being on this show, unlike the other guys (so did Wes…but he was stupid and didn’t realize that).
Ed is funny, serious about Jillian and getting a bad edit. Totally loveable.
Kip is growing on me.
However…I have to say. The show has gone too far. I was very uncomfortable with the skin-e-max show and would appreciate a little more G-rated action, and would appreciate if they would allow me to believe that sex actually doesn’t happen on the show.
I just can’t believe she would sleep with any of them, all at the same time. Ew.
Oh….I like Jillian. But I have to believe that one day she is going to be embarassed about the fact that she has to wrap her legs around every guy 25 times before a date is complete. I was really tiring of seeing her crotch and her default mode…seated, legs ready to wrap. How about some modesty~?
Still thinking about the green shorts two days later…
Do you think it was sort of a joke on Jillian since she always wears such short shorts?
Maybe *all* the outfits were jokes?
Even Ed’s dad’s? lol!
I was just in the grocery store…. I strolled past some cheese cloth packages and absolutely cracked up laughing. Man, that stuff is REALLY see thru. LOL!!!
Annddd…. #208… I think Reid being Jewish (Rosenthal is a Jewish last name, but I’m not sure if he actually is?) really could have been an issue, especially depending on how religious he and his family are. I had a best friend who called off an engagement because they realized they were not going to be able to agree on the issue.
Wasn’t Jillian squaling about how she LOVEDDD CHRISTMAS!!!? Eeekkkkk sreeeeekkkk sqeeelllll!!!! Yeah, that could be a problem.
I’m sticking with my previous opinion… as much as I’m team Reid, I think he’s better off without her. She’s WAY too needy and Reid doesn’t seem like the doting type.
i want reid to show up randomly and profess his love for jillian. i’m just saying.
cmon ABC let’s make it happen!
Juno:
Actually I think Jillian would be Rachel. Monica would not only wash her vegetables, she would do it twice. So given your Friends hypothesis, it would be Ed Jillian ends up with.
Lincee,
my sisters and I read you devoutly every single week. we hang on your every word and giggle out loud in our store as we read you aloud. we even tell our clients about you.
enough about this nit-wit jilli–
2 of the 3 of us are about to be in the 3′rds wedding in october and those same 2 have ordered bridesmaid gowns 3 sizes too small.
for everything good and pure– please post katie’s secret weight loss diet NOW!!!
and if you’re ever in DC and a little hairy, please call us. we are the BEST!
love you lincee, keep writing and i’ll keep waxing!
your soon to be lil’ wax queen in the greatest commonwealth in these united states!!!
big kiss!
I thought Monday’s show was hilarious! Thanks for making it even better Lincee!
I think they kept the cameras rolling in the Fantasy Suite with Ed because of what happened. The whole episode, all Jillian kept talking about was how “sexy” Ed was and how she couldn’t wait to jump his bones and have “sexy time” with him. Then the whole cheesecloth/oil rubdown scene… I think they were actually trying to humiliate Ed. ABC wanted this huge build up to show how everything was so ultra SEXY and then he couldn’t do the deed after all that. I think that’s the reason they showed us all that they did.
I was disappointed that she kept Kip. How many times does he have to tell her he isn’t in love with her before she gets the hint. He told her “I could see myself falling in love with you.” That is pretty clear to me that he isn’t in love with her.
I think it looked like Reid comes back in the final episode. Looked like the back of his head to me.
Lincee,
Another great one. I laughed at Kiptyn making use of his rose time to do another 100!
Why they had to damage Ed’s reputation for the rest of his life is truly the lowest. He will never, ever, live this down. Even if they give us the truth – he fell asleep or whatever- and that has p!ssed me off, too!- there are so many stupid, stupid viewers who will deny the facts and believe the worst. (You may find them on the ABC board.)
Hey, can’t wait to read about your friend and how she lost the weight!
Lincee – I want OHCH to invite you as a guest to the next MTA or WTA ceremony. You would make a great guest!! I am sure viewers want to know your perspective of the outcome… Or invite you to help the next Bach/ette pick his/her mate as part of the show. I liked earlier shows when they brought friends/family to the mansion to question the contestants. I know you are not “about the fame,” but OHCH should contact you!! For future seasons, I also like the idea of “The Bachelors” —bringing two bachelors back to pick from the women (kind of like Mama’s Boys – which was pathetic), but it would be fun to see which guy gravitates toward different kinds of gals. I also giggle over the idea of an “elder-bachelor” – wouldn’t it be funny to see older ladies going for an older man!!! Would anyone watch it, besides me?? Hee Hee. ABC needs to switch it up somehow… way too predictable – but we continue to watch after all these years!! .
There are some screen caps posted on other boards that show Reid and Jilly as he is getting in the limo. It looks like he is smiling and she is waving him off as he has just left her house. Didn’t look to sad to me.
At one time or another we have made bad choices when put on the spot, that is what happens to Jilly every week she is put on the spot to deliver. I think that she has a fear of commitment and not Reid. She will commitment if someone else leads ie Ed stating he loves her and is ready or Kip stating he can see this ending with marriage family and kids.
Excellent recap Lincee, you know how to make a bad situation turn out to be very funny in retrospect.
So we have heard that one of the bachelors will make a confession to Jilly, and there are also rumors that Reid is coming back (which I believe at this point). What I want to do is Reid the whole confession thing — he comes back and professes his love to her — or is there also another confession? Like she decides to pick Ed as the winner but he admits to her he had a girlfriend(s) when he came on the show? I don’t see that happening — anyone gutless enough to lie about that for this long probably won’t magically own it at the end.
Up to this point I would have guessed she will pick Kip as the winner, but now I’m hearing rumors that is not the case, plus he isn’t feeding her ego enough. So maybe she winds up with Ed.
I don’t know if she would choose Reid even if he comes back and says her loves her — she might only do this if both Kip and Ed don’t work out for some reason. Maybe those two WON’T work out and she and Reid will decide to keep dating in the future, sans proposal and rock. If her little heart/ego can handle that….
What I want to do = what I want to know (Oops, I guess I let it slip that I want to do Reid? lol)
ED just fell asleep- that has to be it. She was giving him a massage and he fell asleep. They are just editing it to look bad.
#214 – Brandy Said,
“I think it looked like Reid comes back in the final episode. Looked like the back of his head to me.”
It was OHCH – trust me. The hair was so not Reid’s crazy thickness it can be. LOL There’s a slight viewing of the side of his face and you can tell it’s OHCH. Although I do think it’s Reid that comes back, and the scene they show is Hare comforting her after something (rejection from someone not necessarily whoever comes back). We know they can cut some clips for what’s next and it be all out of proportion to what actually happens.
#100 – Kit – LOVE the idea of a drinking game – 1 for every time she says “Him & I”! We’d all be wasted pretty quickly! Wicked Awsome!
That should be “Awesome”…now I’m editing my own stuff…
Sadness: OHCH didn’t get an Emmy nomination (but, Heidi Klum did – what?!)
Happiness: “From the producers of The Bachelor…” I saw a commercial for “real” people on a Bachelor-like show (i.e. slightly chubby, like many of us). I hope they represent!
I just happened to watch the previews for upcoming weeks last night and it looks like Ed is again wearing the tank tops in the Final Rose segment. Come on that is just bad taste and I can’t believe no one questioned his wardrobe. Think the guy is hot but I am starting to question his fashion sense.
#224 Traci, that new show is called “More to Love,” and that is so funny that you would bring it up because I have been meaning to ask y’all if you’ve seen the previews. They all look completely normal to me, like real people. The idea behind that show really bugs me–that those who are “slightly chubby,” as you so tactfully put it, have to have their own show because they would never be able to be on the actual Bachelor or Bachelorette because they don’t have a 9-pack. Maybe that means I shouldn’t watch the Bach shows anymore because of their focus on physical perfection, but I’m too far gone to stop now.
#226 -jt – I can see that version w/ a lot of phrasing being…just b/c I’m normal size doesn’t mean I don’t deserve this, and just b/c etc etc and it’s going to grate on my nerves really quick! Which is why I am sure I won’t watch it! I’m already annoyed w/ all the catch phrases from these LONG OVER RUN Bach/ette shows! The only reason I’ve watched since it’s gone down hill (except for a few season’s I purposely skipped) is because of Lincee’s blog. I think this show has gone into overkill…and that one will too!
We need fresh out of the box reality junk! Not re-newed recycled versions!
#208 Nacho Cheese- “I agree with Jillian on her choice with that one. It’s not really about “love” but about being realistic…getting married is not all about fleeting “feelings” its about a decision to commit. Reid didn’t seem to be able to separate the two things, I think Jillian is more mature and knows its more about the commitment and readiness to settle down than just the development of feelings.
If making a deep comittment after 6 dates makes you skirmish…you don’t go on a show that is about getting married.
I also didn’t think Reid was that great when it came to family. He basically said “I could not be with anyone my family disapproves of” oh wow…and his dad even said Reid needed to grow up and make his own decisions. Very childish. ”
I respectfully disagree.
My relationship began with love. Commitment came later. How could you start with commitment without feelings? I understand that the intense “butterfly feelings” tend to fade, but love will always be there- deeply rooted. Love and commitment is what helps me wash my hubby’s dirty laundry and not choke him when he leaves the toilet seat up.
I do somewhat understand the notion that Reid should have been on this show if he wasn’t ready to settle down. I don’t think he ever really said he wasn’t ready for that. Just because he’s ready- doesn’t necessarily he can apply those feelings to Jillian in 4 weeks!! And I’m sorry- “commitment” and “settling down” is a scary thing- even if you are ready! That’s why so many couples get cold feet right before the wedding.
Sure, he should have known the premise of the show and understood that he might get “picked” in the end. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that he knew he would be F1. I could see a lot of the guys going on the show because someone nominated them and thought “Oh why the hell not? Sounds like fun.” Isn’t it odd that we never see ABC asking us to nominate females to be on the bachelor?
And one last thought- childish or not, I’m not sure I could be with someone that doesn’t jive with my family. We are a very tight unit (and I am able to have independent thoughts of my own!) and I’m not sure I would like to have that kind of strain on my relationship- with both the hubby and the family. Thankfully, my family LOVES my husband. Bottom line- my family is easy going and real. If a dude didn’t jive with them, he probably wouldn’t jive with me to begin with!
Here’s an idea.! Maybe ABC needs to put some minorities in the role of Bachelor/ette? Give it a different spin.
Rachel #228 – well said. I totally agree.
#229 – KoKo from Mo City Said,
“Here’s an idea.! Maybe ABC needs to put some minorities in the role of Bachelor/ette? Give it a different spin.”
I VOTE FOR ME!!!! LOL I woudln’t let Lincee or my greenbeaner peeps down!
#228 – Rachel – I agree!!!
Call me crazy, but I don’t know how anyone could get engaged when one of the two has been dating– possibly sleeping with– one or more other people up to that VERY DAY. Forget the fact that it’s only been six weeks or two months or whatever and think instead about how they first have to get to know what it’s like to see each other exclusively and monogamously. Taking this from… oh, I dunno… let’s say REID’S perspective, it would KILL me if I were him and I REALLY liked this girl and I not only knew she was “dating” other guys, but probably hooking up with them. And he can picture it all because he knows who these other guys are and what they look like. Ick ick ick. He said on multiple occasions that it bothered him that Jillian was dating others, and all she could muster was a giggly, “Reeeeallllly?? Tell me why!” Poor guy. I hope he stays far away. If I wasn’t recently and happily engaged I’d be on that next train to Philly. Oh and I was raised Christian, now not but still celebrate Christmas in a non-secular way… and I’ve dated Jewish guys. It was never a problem in the slightest. I think it would only be a big problem if one or both of you is very religious, and I never got that impression from Jilly or Reid.
#213 Waxqueen! I’ve seen your store a bunch of times, usually when I’m at WF or Shoefly, but have never come in. Now I’ll have to!
All the spoilers and speculation going on EVERYWHERE . . . I feel like my head is going to explode!
#207, Juno: LOL! Thanks for that!
You know what is so random that I noticed? Nearly every poster uses correct grammar and spelling. How’s that for neurotic? Love it, guys!
Oh, and Lincee- I think you should give us another reason to avoid work by starting a forum where we can get our own dating advice- Lord knows we have analyzed the crap out of Jillian’s relationships and given her every bit of advice we can muster! I’d love to have these gals on my side telling me that “he’s just not that into you!” or “he’s a cheesehead! Run!” Haha!
As always, props to Lincee for a delightful recap!
ABC hyped up the whole, “who has the bedroom problem” that when it actually came to that point, I was expecting more of a shock from Jillian. Something like:
Jillian: “…and you’re supposed to be in love with me!”
I honestly think she and him just weren’t in “the mood”. I don’t blame him though. After a long day in the sun, frolicking in the beach, meeting his parents and watching his junk is those hotpants…i’d be pretty wiped too!
Don’t worry Ed, I still am in love with you!
#219… LOL!!!! hahaha… Freudian slip? I get it!
and #235.. I think you meant “cheese ass”. Ha!
#234 sc – “You know what is so random that I noticed? Nearly every poster uses correct grammar and spelling. How’s that for neurotic? Love it, guys!”
I’ve noticed that too. Or, if there is an error, they correct it in the next post. How could anyone even think of posting with bad spelling or grammar after all the time we spend making fun of Jillian?!
#232!
My sisters and I can’t believe you know about us!
Come in, mention Lincee or Ihategreenbeans and get a 25% discount!
# 216 What would you consider older??? Just Curious
#239 – Daisy – I fo sho’ watch wuz I sa’ cuz I don’t wanna get a beat down! LMAO!!!!
that was my sad lame attempt!!!! I’m trying too hard… next time I’ll bring it! I wanna get a rose so me and I can swoon off into the sunset!
#240 – Look at that…Lincee bringing people together via wax!
#213, waxqueeninva, you are so nice to extend that discount to Lincee’s readers, thank you!
I live in Roanoke so I’m not very close to you guys, but I’ll have to stop by the next time I’m in the DC area.
I checked out your website and I LOVE the hilarious descriptions for your waxing choices. ‘The Jet Setter’ is particularly hilarious, ha haaaa!
Take care!
Wax Queen I am in DC and would love to find you! I must not be much of a sleuth because I can’t track you down. Can you share some hints? Meanwhile, back to the Bachelorette, I saw today that DeAnna has gone out on a limb and predicted that Jillian will choose Ed. Must be interesting to be one of the formerer B’ettes, that is a small club and only they can know what it is like to court for the cameras in this way. I’m glad they all stick together.
Tulipina: White usernames means it is a link. Waxqueen’s name links to her store’s site.
Thanks for the offer waxqueen! Very cool. Looking forward to meeting you and your sisters.
Thanks so much, JennX! Lots to learn for me, and now I can enjoy this list more than ever. Already wondering how I will entertain myself once ATFR is finished.
Ed may be a little backward —- but, he’sa solid, meat-and-potatoes Chicagoan. Dad is akin to the the SNL skits for Chicago Bull’s fans. I think the problem with E.D. is that Jillian made the moves on him- really put herself out there and Ed, being an old-fashioned kind of guy, just couldn’t “jump on it.” Plus, he was thinking aboot all his co-workers and the world for that matter watching his love-making on national TV. Think that Jillian needs to let the guys make the moves and initiate things.Reid is a sweetie, but I don’t think that they have the right stuff for the long haul – think Jill would get bored when not being jet-setted around the country to meet her beaus. Then, Kip – a typical Southern Calif. dude-type — a bit conceited and no one is quite good enough – too much perfect and not enough being down-to-earth. Jill will have to be on her game all the time with this one – or dumpee time. Looks like Ed aka Richie is gonna be the last guy standing.
Just curious: Why do we all keep saying “So-and-so for the next Bachelor,” when we know darn well how much we start to hate these people once they become the Bach (or Bach’ette)? Are we all a bunch of masochists? We should be writing the producers to give us a fresh batch of people to hate.
All the reasons (Jill sleeping w/ other guys, inadequate time together, etc) given about Reid not wanting to commit are all legit, but that is the format of the show. That is what contestants sign up for. They are playing a game. Is it any wonder why this rarely works out for anyone? It’s not real. As viewers, our expectations should be set low and look at it only as a form of entertainment and nothing more. Jill and her “winner” will most likely be broken up in a short span of time anyway.
All that said, it’s still fun to analyze Jill’s choices and poke fun at the absurdity of it all. For instance, given all of that, it’s absurd that I invest so much of my time in this show!
I am Jewish and wanted to comment on some of the speculation that religion was an issue with Reid and Jillian. I do think religion can be a huge issue especially when familes and kids come into the picture. I find that many of the guys who aren’t Jewish have a hard time commiting seriously and introducing me to their parents even if they are not religious themselves (and I don’t consider myself religious). At first I didn’t think Jillian had an issue with the religious differences, because Jason Mesnick being Jewish didn’t stop her from wanting to commit to him, but after I heard her Christmas comments to Reid’s family and then Ed’s family I wondered if it had been on her mind a lot. I have found that even if you can agree on the religionial aspect, melding the family traditions also can be a hardship. My mother, stepmom, and sister-in-law are all not Jewish, but they all celebrate a secular Christmas with extended families, because for them that was the hardest thing to “give up”. My guess is Jillian doesn’t have a problem dating a Jewish man but maybe when she began planning weddings and picturing future imaginary children maybe she did realize that she would miss the tradition of a big family Christmas.
I wish I could find a nice Jewish Reid for myself here in Texas!!
#170… I listed closely, even slowed down the final hug in front of the limo and I only heard him say “Good Luck”. But in his diary of the departed he said he feels like its not over… maybe he’ll get another chance? Foreshadowing?!? one can only hope.
OMGGGGG I can’t believe someone got to meet the wonderful JAKE! I am so jealous…he is so very yummy. And that pilot’s uniform…
If Reid is not at the MTA, then he’s F1. Of course, if he is there, he could still be F1. Ha!
I just want a damn decision already! This has been the longest season yet! They need to cut this down to an hour!
On second thought…I’m gonna work on my own F1!!!! =D I already have a very good candidate! Keep your fingers crossed for me greenbeaners!
Scratch that already (not sure it’s the right one) – I want a decision NOW! LOL (Keeping up with the correcting theme!)
#255 Saggleo, I will reluctantly keep my fingers crossed for you. However, I was secretly hoping that you could be on the next Bachelor. We need a greenbean hater in there as a mole!
Was this person of interest at your happy hour the other day?
Oh, and not just as a mole… to find true love!
TX QP – Sorry! I had thought about it…and I would have slipped in Pineapple every now and then too!! I’d have to be the Bachelorette though, me no like sloppy seconds! LOL Although, I’m devious enough to play a mole too!
No, he wasn’t. That was a girls happy hour – gotta have those!
He’s a sweetie. Many great qualities, and he makes me laugh (which is always a plus, especially when dealing with me). I’m blushing now.
Lincee please post how your friend lost all the wait!! Curious minds anxious to know!!!!
Great link, scoll down to the bottom, to the video section… lots of FUNNY extra clips/bloopers
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20288508_4,00.html
He Who Shall Not Be Named alert:
http://www.dfw.com/107/story/154165.html
Did anyone else catch on Ed’s “video message” to Jillian how he listed (as one of the qualities that he likes about her) that she is inappropriate at times?!? I don’t know that I would have said that to the one I love, but he certainly hit that nail on the head!
Plus thinking about all that oil and massaging bit. Really?! The first time that you are going to hook up with someone you really like, and you whip out the oils? Doesn’t that seem like more of a “spice things up” kind of move, rather than a nervous-excited first encounter? Poor Ed – The cameras, the oil, the cheesecloth, the straddling, millions of people back home watching this…He probably didn’t think about all that when he signed up for this…
And…Thinking about his edit, if it really was “E.D.”, how could he even show his face or smile at her at the rose ceremony? If it was the too tired thing, then there is no embarrassment there, right? His comments and demeanor didn’t seem too embarrassed afterwards, so…
Basically I need to start thinking about something else. Although this blog and these comments just fuel the fire!
For people that are bored and waiting for Monday! Here is an article about the ABC contract that many of the contestants had to sign. This article is from July 11th from Astrochick, you can go to her website to view the link if you like to read legal documents.
Here is the quote:
“A new “female” source has delivered the goods to AstroChicks in a very big way. I got my hot little hands on the ABC contract that Bachelorette/Bachelor contestants have to sign. Yes, girls need to stick together.
The big question most fans continue to ask is do contestants get paid to appear on the show? Is there a clause that states they can be sued if they do a non approved interview? Are contestants prewarned they can be portrayed in a negative light? Are they aware they are filmed 24/7 AND are they paid hush money not to reveal show secrets? The answer is yes, yes, yes, yes…
Basically, was Wes warned in advance what could happen if he appeared on the show? Of course he was. Did he get a bad edit? Of course he did. On the flip side, you can only get a bad edit if you “talk smack” 24/7. These guys KNOW they are being filmed 24/7, why throw yourself under the bus and give the Producers the keys. Also, the fact that he has been in entertainment for the last 11 years, his buddy Jeremy is a lawyer, I hardly doubt he was naive when he went on the show. Or is this a set up? Is Wes in on the little secret and being paid to play the bad guy? Who knows? I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. Wes went on the show for publicity, not love. He got his media buzz that spiraled out of control. Will Wes be okay in the end? I think so. His music career will rely on his talent, not being on a reality show.
The original document is 22 pages, so I (Astrochick) have only posted the interesting parts of the document.
Here are the highlights:
Paid $10k for the “exclusive” to keep quiet.
Option to appear on other shows, they are guaranteed a fee
If they make it to the final four, they are paid extra.
They are explicitly told they are filmed 24/7, they could be embarrassed, edited in a negative light, etc.
Highlights Part Two:
If they appear on Extra TV as a host, they can be paid $150k per year.
ABC holds the “exclusive for two years if the final contestants get married. This means they can’t sell photo deals to People, US Magazine, etc. Also, they will be paid a compensation fee if they get married on TV.
They have a non disclosure agreement and can be sued for up to $5 million dollars if they disclose ABC secrets, go on unapproved interviews, etc. etc.
If lawsuit goes to arbitration, ABC is guaranteed $250k
To read parts of the contract here. Interesting stuff. Just an additional bit of trivia info. A popular reality star can earn $100k to $250k per year just making appearances on shows, Extra TV, and events. Not too shabby and well worth the embarrassment. You decide what’s the truth and what isn’t.
Also, I have received a few emails from different contestants saying they did not receive this contract for Deanna’s season, which means it may be from Jillian’s, or it could also mean depending on the contestant, they could receive a slightly different contract. This is depending on how bad the Producers wanted to cast them on the show. In Hollywood, EVERYTHING is negotiable.” End of quote
Kind of interesting!
Lincee? I’ve grown tired of Polly Pocket and really, really need to know about this diet you spoke of. Squeallian isn’t nearly as interesting as something that might kill some of my fat rolls. Please, please, please post this secret of all secrets! Soon! Please! My thighs beg of you!
Incase anyone was wondering “Where are they now?”… http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/stars-of-the-bachelor-and-the-bachelorette-where-are-they-now–471
Love the shout out to our boy Hare at the end!!
Lauren, thanks for that! That was great. And the Hare section was the best!
Take a trip down memory lane! Just found this update of past bachelors and bachelorettes.
http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/stars-of-the-bachelor-and-the-bachelorette-where-are-they-now–471
#265 – Thanks Lauren! I saw in an article recently that Andy Baldwin is dating Dominic Dawes (the Olympic Gymnast). They met on a humanitarian event or something (building houses I think). I thought that was pretty cool.
Sorry spelled her name wrong. Dominique Dawes.
Interview of OHCH about MTA. Always fun to hear his take on things. http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/07/20/bachelorette-host-scolds-shows-knuckle-dragging-cavemen/
#270 – Thanks Kimberly! Tonight shall be interesting indeed!!!
Usually not one to make the Bachelor must see TV, but 270 hit the nail on the head… can’t wait the see the time bombs go off.
#207 Juno….I totally agree that Ed is Ross. I realized it the other night when I was watching old DVDs of Friends! Even his little awkward moments! But I’m totally a Chandler fan, so I’m hoping for Reid to show back up!
While we’re all waiting for MTA, there’s something that’s been bothering me and I’d like to know what others of you think about it…I have the feeling that TPTB wanted to make an example of Wes to deter other non-serious, career-advancing bachelors from signing up for the show, and that’s why he got the horrible edit. I read a web posting about how some of Wes’s gigs have been cancelled as a result of The Bachelorette and, while I don’t want to see his career advanced, I also don’t want to it to be worse off. (Don’t get me wrong: Reid – #1, Ed – #2, Kypton – #ugh, Wes – #triple ugh.) On the other hand, Shayne Lamas IMO was there for career advancement and TPTB built her up like crazy on the show. Sexy very young ambitious female = fine. Sexy young ambitious male = cannot be allowed!
Anyway, just curious about whether the “making an example of…” explains Wes’s role, or am I spending way too much time thinking about this show?!!!
I made it through this entire BORING season only to have my satellite give out right before one of the two episodes I NEED to see.
Does anyone know where I can find live streaming of ABC???
#275 Noooooooooooo!: abc.com doesn’t have live streaming, but has older episodes and posts the new ones on Tuesday…
#274 – There was a big difference between Shayne and Wes. On one hand, Shayne played along. She might have actually had feeling for Sir Bachelor. Who knows. But when she was with the girls, she did and said the right things.
On the other hand, as OHCH said, Wes had utter disregard for Jillian’s feelings and said as much to the other guys. He told at least two he had a girlfriend. He had a classic diatribe in the limo. Did he get a bad edit? Maybe. But at the same time, it was Wes who gave the producers the material to make the bad edit — in other words, if he had played it the same way Shayne had and kept his mouth shut when he was hanging with the boys, I think he doesn’t get the bad edit. Let’s face it, if he telling people he has a girlfriend, etc., the producers are not going to bury those clips — they are going to present the most interesting, dramatic, and compelling train wreck they can.
My 2c.
What is TPTB?
The powers that be? (“TPTB”)
Good point, Cilantro, Shayne was definitely into it, from the viewer’s perspective at least, and Wes wasn’t.
TPTB = the powers that be
I don’t know what I enjoy reading more…Lincee’s recaps or how worked up so many others get about this show. No offense meant. Believe me…I have been known to get riled up too! Get to have quite a post-show chat session every Tuesday with my mom…such fun.
Poor Ed and his clothing choices. I appreciate him embracing the pastels; those colors have been quite “in” for all men over the past few years. But perhaps he should space them out…not wear them all in one outfit. He looked like he belonged in the film Caddyshack with that suit.
#275 – So sorry! Don’t know of anywhere you can watch a live stream, but you can watch it the day after on abc.com
I’m not counting but it’s 52 minutes to the MTA. I have no life. LOL. We’ll know soon enough but has anyone heard if Wes will be making an appearance?
MaggieMay, we’ve heard that Wes is NOT making an appearance. I think that both he (or excuse me, in the language of this season, him) and Chris Harrison have said so.
Juneoesq – #284 – Thanks!! I forgot I should have referred to “him” as HWWNBN. (Long day at work). I actually reminded my boss on the way out – “it’s Monday night. I will NOT be answering the phone. So if you have a crisis it has to wait until tomorrow morning”!
Men tell all are missing some characters…. interesting…. hmmmm I sense a twist in the final!
You too Erin. Did I miss something (I haven’t backed up my PVR) did OHCH actually use the words “other ENGAGEMENT?”. I have to get a life – I’m reading too much into everythin. On second thought I’ll get a life a week from Wednesday after the ATFR.
Yes, he said Reid couldn’t be there due to a “prior engagement.”
My thoughts so far:
That scene where Ed was wasted? HILARIOUS!!
I almost tolerated Melba and Country Club Princess’ scene until Melba said something to the effect of “If people think I’m responsible for all this happiness, then yes I’ll take the blame.” Yes, Melba, all that is good in the world is because of YOU. *gag*
Good grief, I’ve never seen this many dudes be jerks to one another all at the same time. I never liked Juan really, but it’s like every guy there except for Jake HATES him! And why do they hate Jake? God forbid he be polite.
My favorite line:
David: “When I said I wanted to beat the **** out of Juan, I didn’t really mean that.”
OHCH: “So when you say you want him to drown himself, it’s actually ‘let’s hug it out.’”
(or something to that effect, I’m not watching this on my DVR TV)
Wow….and we’re only halfway through.
Missed the first hour. Did the guys say why they hate Juan and Jake?
Watching this Jake footage again, he sounds so fake to me. Still hot, though!
Ugh…. i can’t take Jake’s “jillian’s just an innocent girl..” bit. Jillian is a 29 year old woman, Jake. She’s not an innocent girl who needs protection.
Ugh… he, almost more than anyone else (including Dave), gets my feminist up.
Dave is a big warning flag. He has an entire studio full of women telling him we don’t like the things he thinks are great come on lines, and he still disagrees. Yeah, us ladies don’t know what we like.
can i just say, i love that Hare says, “Dude” all the time
C List: Jake thinks he’s perfect and apparently told everyone so, and Juan is a two-faced man-code-breaker.
That’s the short version of the long bashing on them. Yes, I think Jake had a tendency to sound fake at times, but I don’t think he was.
I was at the taping. The Jake bashing went on and on and on. As did Dave. It was an extraordinarily long taping (in at 1:00, out at 8:38)…but a lot of stuff was going on! I have to wait a couple more hours to see it…
#291 – Dave will blame us for being losers and not knowing how a “real man” acts with his girlfriend. Earth to Dave – if you want to get lucky at a bar you can try the nice @$$ line. It might work. Of course you might get a drink thrown in your face but I just thought I’d offer the advice. My ex started to use that line on me towards the end of our relationship. It made me feel cheap and that he didn’t value you me anymore and I needed to wonder if we were going to break up. Turns out – I was right. LOL
#292 – Marus, “Dude” must be part of the “man code” rule book for talking with other guys.
Awwww, Jillian wore Mango Mango just for Tanner! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
I will not go check out FORT or Reality Steve. Repeating I will not ……
I can last a week and want to be surprised….. Repeating I can last ….
Anyone want to start a pool on how long until I cave?? LOL. I would not post anything here (keeping Lincee spoiler free all the way).
I am so done if she starts a spoiler thread again.
HOLY *&^$ !!!! I guess ABC decided not to hide anything with the previews.
#274 Perry_D- I agree completely on all issues. Wes is being made an example of. He is not on the show tonight for a couple reasons. I think ABC didn’t want him because he has been telling everyone how he was edited, etc. ABC didn’t want to risk him running his mouth before a live audience. They certainly took the opportunity to really bash him. They even re-edited some edits to make a montage against him. I don’t think he’d be the best boyfriend, but he isn’t as bad as they said. Anyone who disagrees should listen to the Reality Steve interview. At least hear his side of the story. I was a big time Wes hater all season but notice all the editing now (especially during tonight’s clips).
Whatever you have to say about Dave, you can’t deny that he is very, very honest.
The guys need to leave Juan alone. Jeez, move on.
That was REID!!!!!!!!!!
THEY SHOWED IT!!!!!
298 MaggieMay…Not hide anything is right! THEY TOTALLY SHOWED REID’S FACE. Oh my God. We all knew it was coming, but still. Oh my God.
Do any of you know how long they keep the full episodes up on abc.com? I’m going to be out of town all next week and away from my computer and tv– will the episodes still be up the following week?
Why do I have to leave town NOW!? Hahaha.
OMG I just squealed like Jillian when I saw Reid on the previews!!!!!
I know ABC has been hitting us over the head with the foreshadowing. Ed leaves Ed comes back. Jake gets booted Jake comes back.
Reid kept saying if I could go back I’d tell her everything.
I’ll lay odds she picks Reid. Saggleo are you here yet? Let’s book that flight – Jake obviously needs someone who will appreciate him and Ed’s gonna have a broken heart and need a kind shoulder to lean on and get through this horrible horrible time. (Would it be insensitive to WOO HOO??).
JW: They’ll keep them up long enough for you to see it. The entire season is still up on abc.com, and you’ll be able to see the finale when you get back.
I can’t type that was .. “add WOO HOO”.
Another night (knight) in shining armour……my my so many dudes were spitting back and forth tonight and discussing so long about eachother I was wondering if they even remembered Jillian? Finally her name was brought up, tells you something, I looked back on all of these unchosen ones, some were really sweet, some were a little odd….well, takes all kinds.
Predictions of so many of us that Reid will come back, I was happy to see him in the previews for next week, how exciting! I was so-so about Kryptonite last week, but think he’s kinda ok, I like him, he seems like his heart is heading in the right direction, unless the hot sun rays are working hard at his heart.
I was disappointed country Wes wasn’t there, oh, that would have been really neat. He may have had to think twice about his confessional gf story and music career, god only knows what the network would do with his contract.
Think the outtakes were hilrious, I could hear most of you laughing tonight! Over and out until tomorrow with my coworker…..
Agh, I’m so torn. I love Reid, but I want her to pick Ed. I think in the end Reid’s personality would be too different from Jillian, as for communication and relationships. But I do love him. My guess is that she doesn’t pick anyone till the AFTR, whoever it is, and that’s why it’s airing Tuesday instead of right after the finale. Gotta keep the audience waiting like wolverines.
Don’t get too excited green beaners, you know we can’t count on Reid coming back til we actually see it. But we can hope !!! Lincee, please start a spoiler thread! Love reading everyone’s take on this…..
Just wondering (#310) … NOOOOOOO I DON’T WANT A SPOILER THREAD. Ok I might like a spoiler thread. You can all stop laughing at me now.
Now that they have shown us Reid’s face, and him holding a ring, it can’t be that he is the one in the end. They are leading us on. He still gets my vote. I know we have said all that can be said about the bad grammar, but I must add that tonight, to hear Ed say twice in a row “her ane me” about the date in Spain was painful to my ears.
Maggie May, you don’t HAVE to read the spoiler thread! Ha! It’s like having a bag of m&ms in front of you…. you don’t HAVE to eat them!
just wondering (#313) – plain or peanut?
i thought they were going to show the weekend in Vegas?
Katie – Maybe they’ll show that on ATFR or ABC 86′d it at the last minute.
I totally agree…..what happened to the weekend in Las Vegas.
#315 – you are so right. I am glad they didn’t show us how the former bachelors/ettes have been hooking up.
Well that settles that (at least for tonight) – I can’t get into either RS or FORT. LOL
I heart Reid. Seriously, if she doesn’t take him back, I will cry.
MaggieMay, well I don’t know about FORT, but RS hasn’t given us anything as for spoilers. So you’re not missing anything from him.
Thanks, Mallory, I was just worried they’d keep the finale up for a few days and then yank it!! I guess vacation should be more important to me than a silly tv show!! But hey, I guess if I miss it, I can always enjoy Lincee’s recap!! : )
Thanks Mallory!! I’m saying I won’t, but I will probably try FORT again tomorrow – I’ll skip RS.
JW – you pretty much know everything that’s going to happen. meet and greet and grilling with the fam, last chance to show how much I love you, Reid shows up, rejection, and then “I PICK YOU!” Haha. Lincee’s recap would be plenty if for some reason they yank it off, but I really don’t think they will.
You know, if ABC and OHCH were so put off about HWSNBN promoting his album as they now claim to be….why do they CONTINUE to show him singing the horrific song and edit the show to actually FEATURE it?
It’s clear that HWSNBN went on to promote himself. Which makes him a d-bag cheese ass. And it’s starting to seem clear that ABC was FINE with that as it gave them a villain.
At least most of you can watch it on ABC.com. I’m outside the U.S. and the feeds won’t work for me – for any U.S. station (who thought up that stupid rule anyway??)
It looks like Jillian is at the Home Depot pedestal with a shocked look on her face. Im wondering if they dont send the reject out first and then instead of her initial pick walking out next, it is Reid?
Kathy….I mean this in the nicest way possible. DUH. They’re only worried about what will give them exciting TV. HWSNBN was perfect for that. Besides, you can see even OHCH had plenty of enjoyment in ragging on him all night.
And the men tell all tonight brought me back to my question several weeks ago… why oh why did she let Jesse go?!?!?
Plus ABC reads this blog (side note to TPTB why have you not featured Lincee yet on the show??). No one (except the residents of Chi-watcha-macallit Mexico) will be lining up to buy his CD. It was kind of fun to watch Chris get his digs in.
Oh and #299 Claiborne – I will give Dave credit for being honest and showing what appears to be his true personality. He just won’t be getting any dates for a while – unless he goes to Chi-watcha-macalit Mexcio when Wes goes on tour.
Eeeeeeeekk!! The last 5 seconds of the MTA* just made my night.
* Not counting the Tanner P. outtakes at the very very end.
Thank you ABC for not showing the former rejects in Vegas….seriously. We don’t care. Also, did anyone notice the ring in Reid’s hand didn’t have a diamond? I’m just sayin……I think it is Kip that she picks. Ed is too obvious stating his love for her….
CU: “And the men tell all tonight brought me back to my question several weeks ago… why oh why did she let Jesse go?!?!?”
Agreed. He was looking pretty good tonight
Was anyone else surprised by Robby’s attitude tonight? He always struck me as a nice guy, but wow, tonight he was acting like a jerk! Sasha was incredibly rude, too, but I never thought much of him anyway. All I can say is Michael Stagliano, Michael Steinberg, Jake and Juan were the only ones that behaved with class. The rest of them were ignorant!
Did anyone notice how Jillian didn’t mention Jake when she talked about guys it hurt her to let go? I felt kind of badly for him because it was such an obvious slight.
Couldn’t care less about Melba and Molly…waste of time to bring them on the show.
#326 MaggieMay — Try going to CITY TV. It airs the show in Canada and you may be able to view it from that. Good luck.
#329 & 333 – Yes, we were all squealing when we saw Jessie tonight. I was looking mighty fine! And, he seems very normal too.
I do not get all the Jake love. He seems to love himself more than any woman could. I guess I’m just not a big fan of false modesty.
So much to say about tonight! I can’t wait to read Lincee’s recap tomorrow, yippee!
Does anyone else think Jake looks like a blonde Tom Cruise and Sasha looked like Ben Affleck tonight?
Ohhh, when Jake was in ‘the hot seat’ and the guys started ragging on him AGAIN, about breaking the ‘man code’ (what on Earth?! Yes, totally alpha-male ridiculousness going on there!) and were on his case about going back and telling Jillian, but the girls in the audience loved it/him – - I just wanted to see Jake stop everyone from talking by slowly putting his hand up, smirk at Dave, and say, ‘You know what? See. Nobody’s perfect, Dave.’
Ohhhh, man – - that would’ve been PERFECT. And I would’ve risked the static electricity shock to my lips and kissed the tv if he’d done that, LOL! That would’ve ‘killed him with kindness’ and had the ‘punch’ of nothing else he could’ve said.
All that testosterone . . gave me a headache.
PLEASE someone tell Dave that he’s not a frat boy in college anymore. PLEASE! (And that even then, being drunk all the time, speaking crudely, and being in denial over your own ‘cheese ass’ actions were NEVER attractive. Right along with your aggression, dude. How insecure.)
How much more do I adore OHCH after tonight? Calling out Dave’s hypocrisy and mocking the ‘man code’ that so many of them subscribe to like the children it turns out they are?
I (heart) OHCH more now than when he made fun of Sean’s mullet by asking Deanna if she thought Sean worked out at the Cobra Kai dojo. (And that’s saying a lot b/c Hare had me at that, for realz.)
I also loved getting to see Reid’s disgusted face again, when he reacted to Wes’s comment at the rose ceremony before (Wes’s) departure. LOL!
I (heart) Reid to pieces.
I hope Jillian, Reid, and his aversion to raw meat are happy together in the end.
334, 338. yup…I second that.
It was nice to see Jillian remark to Jaun that she didn’t know what he had gone through and it broke her heart….it broke mine too! It was really funny to see….the real men….were the men the other guys seemed to think were not “real men”
The nicer guys …Jaun, Jake, Mark (pizza guy) Michael Stagliano, are pretty much the only ones I’d consider “real men” maybe Tanner P too.
David is SUCH a bully and it shocked me how many of the guys blindly seemed to follow him. It was really….bizzare.
Yeah, I’m now a big fan of Hare for calling it like it is….these guys seem to have no clue what idiots they appear to be. Maybe now they might…
Maybe.
I still love Michael Stag and Jake more than anyone. Hope one of those two is the next Bachelor and not duller than dull Kiptyn.
Reid gets a helicopter, Ed gets a catamaran. And Kiptyn gets… WHAT? A rope course? I would be pissed if I were Kippy. He totally got the shaft.
#335 – Sprite. Thank you but the only shows I can watch at City TV are Ugly Betty, Chuck, Murdoch Mysteries and Less Then Kind. I’ve checked before and I just checked again hoping they had added The Bacherlorette
Please ABC read this. Do not ask Jake to be the next Bachelore. Let’s have someone new. Also, I don’t think Tanner D got enough recognition last night. I love him. He can rub my feet anytime. I think he was a gentleman to warn Jill there was someone in the house to watch out for. He’s was too much of a “man code” guy to actually say who it is. He wanted the DB to step up and admit he had a girlfriend. He was in a terrible position.
Dave you are a horrible person. Stay off TV and maybe stop drinking before you kill someone. Honestly, ABC should have pulled him the second he started threatening Juan’s life. That was a dangerous situation and ABC should be protecting the cast and taking better care of them. This show needs some improvement.
Things that struck me about TMTA :
1- I heart Jake
2- Mike S and Tanner P, I am sorry I thought one of you was juvenille and the other a pervert. Well, those still hold true, but you showed yourselves, IMO, to be stand-up guys and actual purveyors of the”man-code”.
3- I heart Jake
4 – Totally disgusted by Davey boy. My opinion of him throughout this whole season has never waivered. To paraphrase Kathy Griffin, he can suck it!
5- I heart Jake
6- Was totally disappointed in/by Jessie and Robby. They both went down alot of notches in my book.
7- I heart Jake
8 – WTG, Juan. You displayed more class than you should have.
9 – I heart Jake
10 – Wes, you may be the most universally despised man in the history of reality TV. And that’s a list that includes Puck (gag) and Johnny Fairplay (gag) . At least you’ll always have Chihuahua, Mexico to turn to for comfort.
Did we also notice how carefully it was said that she isn’t engaged, isn’t in love…but that she is just HAPPY. They are always so quick to say that they HAPPY couple are ENGAGED! and that they are IN LOVE!!!! Yet, OHCH danced around that and it was never addressed. And Dear ABC…..STOP GIVING US THE REJECTS!!! I am so over it being a reject as the next Bachelor/Bachelorette!!! GIVE US SOMEONE NEW!!!!!
Yes, Jake does remind me of Tom Cruise…it’s the smile, I think. They both seem pretty insincere to me, as well.
With all the bashing going on, they didn’t even talk about who they thought J would pick or who would be good for her. Or did I miss it?
Yes, David is sooooooooo hot!! WHY does he have to be such a neanderthal?!?!?
I found it very interesting that Reid could not be on the MTA because he had a “previous engagement”.
#315, OHCH said on his blog that they had planned to show the footage from the Las Vegas get-together, but they had so much good stuff from MTA that they didn’t end up using it.
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/07/chris-harrison-blogs-the-bachelorette-episode-10.html
And Jilly’s blog (OMG YOU GUYS!) while I’m at it: http://tvwatch.people.com/category/the-bachelorette/
In Dave’s defense (can’t believe I am saying this), I think that probably a lot of girls that he says things like that to probably do swoon all over themselves. Sorry, but there are a lot of women out there who like shady guys and in their half-drunken stupor enjoy a guy like Dave buying them drink after drink and complimenting their physical aspects, even if it is crude and completely inappropriate. I mean, even Jilian at the time couldn’t stand up for herself–she was worried about his feelings, obviously. Okay, I’m done defending him.
I felt sorry for Juan. He wasn’t my favorite while he was on the show, but good grief. I think the age difference between Juan (35) and the other guys probably had something to do with it too. He just didn’t “fit in,” and that bothered a lot of those guys. I loved Michael Stag even more after last night. He defended the less popular guys in the house, and it seemed like he was able to remain neutral (nobody was bashing on him). Unfortunately, he didn’t get much screen time because he didn’t join in on the sausage fest.
Jake has always annoyed me and did even more so last night. I can see why none of the guys liked him. However, I thought Mark the Pizza Guy’s comments to him were stupid (and rehearsed). Who cares if Jake doesn’t want to see an R-rated movie or untuck his shirt?
#338 Jennifer, you said “PLEASE someone tell Dave that he’s not a frat boy in college anymore. PLEASE!” As Mike pointed out, ALL of them were in frats in college EXCEPT for the ones they ostracized (I think he was talking about Juan at the time). So apparently it was okay for them to still act like that. OHCH said it best on his blog when his wife said, “it’s shocking so many of them are still single.”
About HWMNBN, OHCH said that at first he declined to come on MTA, then later he wanted to come. He said that HWMNBN had called up a few of the guys to make sure that they would back him up. At that point, ABC declined his request to come on the show. Take that for what it’s worth.
He also said that he was sad Reid couldn’t be there, and hopes to bring him back on next weeks ATFR show. I wonder what it all MEANS?!?! I would love it if she picked Reid, but I love Ed too. Don’t really care about Kiptyn, and as we discussed last week I am tired of Kip’s “Let’s do this” talk.
Jake, Michael, Juan and Tanner P–two thumbs up to all you guys. Very classy, you did your mothers proud.
Dave–it’s amazing that now I think you are actually a BIGGER d-bag than I thought when I watched you on the show. Congratulations, that is quite an accomplishment, because I thought you were “an awful human being” then.
Robby & Mike–seriously, dudes, what happened? I liked you both a lot, but now, eh…
Mark & Jesse–I thought you guys were just boring before, but I now realize that you are also a-holes. (Jesse, you were TOTALLY HOT last night, though, so there’s that…)
CH’s wife said it best, “it’s SHOCKING some of these guys are still single…”
Oooh, I forgot Sasha! Yeah, didn’t like him before, he did nothing to help his case, but it was soooo satisfying to hear Jake drop the f-bomb on him! Seriously, the only way that would have felt better is if it wasn’t bleeped!
#305 – MaggieMay Said,
“I know ABC has been hitting us over the head with the foreshadowing. Ed leaves Ed comes back. Jake gets booted Jake comes back.
Reid kept saying if I could go back I’d tell her everything.
I’ll lay odds she picks Reid. Saggleo are you here yet? Let’s book that flight – Jake obviously needs someone who will appreciate him and Ed’s gonna have a broken heart and need a kind shoulder to lean on and get through this horrible horrible time. (Would it be insensitive to WOO HOO??)”.
I SCREAMED when they showed Reid! I couldn’t believe it! What was the point of showing the walkup if you are going to show him at the end! ugh! But I am excited! And I loved that he had what looked like an eternity design band ring! AWWWWWWWEEEE!!!!
I’ll hook you up MaggieMay, but I’m letting Jake go. Got my own prince charming now! *Blush* But I’ll look out for my girls for shizzle!!!
Was anyone else surprised that some of the “previously unseen” footage never aired? Like the Reid hula dancing lesson… that was frickin’ classic!
Oh and Ed’s drunk outakes were HILARIOUS!!! I was cracking up at the “dancing”. Oh which reminds me…Reid’s hula dancing?!?! HYSTERICAL!!!! Oh man, my stomach hurt after laughing so much!
Wow…what a bunch of jerks most of these guys came off to be. Some should have kept their mouths shut…they appeared more gentlemanly before even if they had some growing up to do. Last night CLEARLY showed many do still have to grow up.
Oh my Jake is proper, sue him. He didn’t sit there and bash anyone else. Although I do love that he told Sasha F’U'! AWESOME!
David…jackass…enough said!
Oh and did I miss them poll the guys and ask who they thought she would pick? I swore they usually ask that question of those that have been let go.
#312 – TULIPINA Said, “Now that they have shown us Reid’s face, and him holding a ring, it can’t be that he is the one in the end. They are leading us on. He still gets my vote. I know we have said all that can be said about the bad grammar, but I must add that tonight, to hear Ed say twice in a row “her ane me” about the date in Spain was painful to my ears.”
Tulipina…I swear I heard him say Her and I – only because of the sticklers for english on here I went…oh I bet that’ll make them happy. LOL
Saggleo – “her and I” doesn’t make us happy, either
#355 – junoesq, LMAO!!!! SORRY! LOL I wasn’t quite sure about that either!
Does the reason being a little medicated help? LOL I HEART this site!
Oh and while I’ll admit that Jesse looked hot…he got on my sh*t list to last night.
Was anyone else disappointed that Chris Harrison, whom I revere, descended to play “pull my finger” with Jillian? I hope we never have to hear about (or hear, full stop) farting again on one of these shows.
Was anyone else disappointed that Chris Harrison, whom I revere, descended to play “pull my finger” with Jillian? She is a bad influence and not representative of all Canadians. I hope we never have to hear about (or hear, full stop) farting again on one of these shows.
# 330 – Lincee has attended the Tell All show before on OHCH’s invitation. I’m not sure if she still attends but she blogged about her first experience at the taping some years/seasons back. I think that was for a Women Tell All though not an MTA.
DId some of you get to see the “old bachelor/bachelorettes” hanging out??? I am in Colorado and did not see that – or else I passed it on my DVR but I doubt it.
I also screeched like Jilly-Bean when I saw Reid – I heart Reid!!!
I was cracking up at Ed and his drunken dancing – friggin hilarious! That made me heart ED and forgive his bad taste in clothes last week (but did you see the green shorty shorts make a comeback next week!)Also, at Reid’s hula dancing – how adorable though! I am curious aboot the tiny gold ring – it cannot be a engagement ring, right? Also did you notice how Kip and Ed were dressed exactly the same in the limos to go “ask Jillian to marry them”? The Tanner P outtakes at the end – Daddy can suck him some good toe!!!!!!LMFAO!
I loved the outtakes – and Jillian looked like she had a better “fantasy date” with the Pepperoni Pizza than with Ed! OMG!
I was disappointed in the guys – but loved Michael (breakdancer) and Tanner P’s honesty without getting vicious. Jake did kind of come off pompous but I was okay with it. Juan was fine – I still don’t get why they hate him so much – who cares if he was never in a frat or locker room or lived with a bunch of dirty guys…UGH! Sasha was down right rude. Even Jesse came off jealous. Robby is cute but clearly immature. David – is the biggest cheese-ass! And, Wes – I love how they did his montague (spelling?) – I could care less about him, his music and how he comes off on TV. Shows a lot about the guys who ended up sticking up more for Wes than they did Juan or Jake. Tools!
I hope Lincee posts on last night – OHCH was in rare form! I heart OHCH!
362 Jen (parker,co) Said, “DId some of you get to see the “old bachelor/bachelorettes” hanging out??? I am in Colorado and did not see that – or else I passed it on my DVR but I doubt it.
Also, at Reid’s hula dancing – how adorable though! I am curious aboot the tiny gold ring – it cannot be a engagement ring, right?”
I don’t think they showed the old bach/ette’s hanging out.
When I saw the ring Reid was holding it made me think of the eternity band design (not sure if it is) but that was my immediate thought b/c of the “roping” look it has. I think that would be pretty freaking awesome if that’s what it is! And I’m not even a fan of yellow gold! lol I wouldn’t think it would be right for him to go and spend big bucks on a diamond that one – won’t compete w/ the diamonds the others have b/c they didn’t pay for those anyway, and two – it would have more meaning behind it!
I heart Reid any day!
Saggleo – glad to hear you found someone (it gives me hope)
If I ever get to Chicago we need to go for martinis!
I have a good friend (who helped me with my break up) just go through one of her own on the weekend. We’re meeting for lunch on Thursday and I’m going to try to convince her to audition for the show. She’s the right age, pretty, funny and smart AND SHE’D TELL ME EVERYTHING.
Okay off to read the recap
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