Bachelor in Paradise Recap: Bachelor Derek?

It all makes sense now. Bachelor in Paradise is just a front for a reality show spinoff about show producers slowly introducing everyone’s ex or former flame into the mix. And since everyone at Stagecoach has conveniently landed on the beach, they switched to Demi’s love life. 

It’s Paradise, people. Anything can happen.

Girl Kristian (Not the Soccer Player)

When we last left the show, Demi had requested the a private audience with Our Host Chris Harrison. After telling him her woes (Derek vs. the girl back home), Harrison makes it his mission in life to secure Demi’s happiness in any way possible. Who cares about these other yahoos? Demi deserves love.

So the producers fly in Girl Kristian, not to be confused with the guy Jordan body slammed yesterday. She looked super uncomfortable and extremely weirded out by the pomp and circumstance of it all. Demi was excited to see her and immediately ends it with Derek. She delicately breaks his heart and he takes it like a champ. 

Here’s the uncool part: Demi decides that she’s going to stay and live it up in Paradise with Kristian, right there in front of Derek. Everyone seems completely okay with this decision and even congratulates Demi for finding love. No one swoops in on Derek or even helps him wallow in his sadness.

I’m wondering how rose ceremonies are going to be held now. Our Host said that he was going to change the rules. Does this mean anyone can bestow a rose to anyone else? Meaning Demi may give a rose to Kristian, but then Blake can “save” Big Mike one week to keep his friend in Paradise? 

And what will happen to Derek? Since he handled his breakup gracefully, and he just so happens to look like Jim Halpert, could his hat be thrown in the ring as consideration for the next bachelor? 

Some people thinks so.

Don’t Tell Her To Chill

In case you were wondering, Kristina is Queen B and she owns it. Especially when the new girl, Caitlyn questions her reasoning behind giving Blake a rose. Caitlyn wants to know if this is an act of peeing all over him in a possessive way or if she just wants another week in Paradise?

IT’S A FRIENDSHIP ROSE, CAITLYN. YOU MUST CHILL. 

Free To Explore

Katie makes a rookie mistake by telling Chris that he is free to explore other options in Paradise. Chris asks her two different ways if she’s sure and she answers in the affirmative. Then she cries to twelve different people when he accepts a date from new girl Jen.

Who is Jen? She’s from Ben’s season and was once connected to Nick Viall. 

Oh, and she also met Blake at Stagecoach. 

I understand that it’s hard to keep up with all the Stagecoach-ness of Paradise. I’ve taken the liberty of designing a chart for your convenience. I’m sure we will add to it in weeks to come, but as of this moment, here are the ladies Blake conquered at country Coachella. 

Unfortunately, Chris and Jen have the worst time on their catamaran boat ride around the high seas. He spends most of the jaunt puking over the side. Thankfully, they make up for lost time by making out in the hot tub later. Here’s hoping he brushed his teeth. 

After the romp in the jacuzzi, Chris makes Katie feel all the guilt. She can’t be mad since she gave him a hall pass to have a fun date with another woman. So Chris dangles the “I wish you would have asked me not to go” card for way too long. Who knows which woman he likes, but if I had to guess, I’d put my money on Katie.

Sing Sweet Nightingale

Havana Nicole is excited to perform and original piece for Clay. He’s always bugged her to sing for him and tonight’s the night. She pulls out a sheet from the ABC Intern’s legal pad and quickly writes lyrics that convey her true feelings for the man who runs shirtless up and down the beach all day long. 

Normally I would link to a clip right now, but I’m not going to do that today. Trust me when I say it’s for the best. 

Exhibit A: Clay grabs Havana Nicole and lays a major lip lock on the songstress just to get her to cease and desist from the “singing.” 

She’s no Jenny from the block.

Photo By: ABC.com

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Contrarian

I understand the appeal of free drinks on the beach, but if I were Derek, I would have left “Paradise” immediately following Kristian’s arrival. It’s clear all cast members will be supporting Demi’s “brave” choice, so he’s become an instant irrelevancy. Assuming he has friends and family, he should seek solace and healing with those who actually love him.

Libby
Libby

No need to put quotes around brave. What isn’t brave about coming out as bisexual on national television? She’s been getting some pretty nasty backlash which can’t be fun.

LORRAINE
LORRAINE

I agree! Paradise is the place for Jade and Tanner happiness. Demi threw an unexpected curve ball and now Derek has to sit around bewildered and unloved. It’s a mess

Whydoikeepwatching
Whydoikeepwatching

Derek should not be the one to leave Paradise. Demi already had a relationship, yet she chose to participate in the show and become involved with Derek. Now, he’s been hurt, the cast is praising Demi (ignoring the fact that she caused pain) AND she and Kristian get to stay in Paradise after already deciding they truly love each other and will be in a relationship. They should go home if for no other reason than Demi’s deception. If Jed Wyatt had shown up on the beach, become involved with someone who believed he was unattached and thought they were building a strong relationship, and then he told Chris Harrison his mind was on someone he was involved with at home, would Chris have brought that woman to Paradise to help him make a choice? I’m thinking NO! The double standard is wrong, and everyone should be playing by the same rules.

ScoobySnaxx
ScoobySnaxx

But there are no rules. It’s a TV show and the producers can do whatever the heck they want. It will all be a big joke when Chris Harrison says next week, “I’m about to change the rules.” They can bend and twist the show into whatever they want it to be. If they decide that they need a villain, they’ll fix it so that they have a villain, even if said villain is a nice person in real life. It’s really quite sick, when you think about it. If you go on this show, you have no idea what narrative the producers are going to create around you. It could completely ruin your life. And think about Demi now. After the big hullaballoo about her relationship with Kristian, it’s almost like the two of them now HAVE to stay together for quite a while (or at least give everyone that perception on social media), otherwise they (and the show) look like total idiots.

Libby
Libby

I was definitely surprised to hear that Demi and Kristian were going to be staying, but the more I think about it I’m glad that they are. Sure, they’re only doing it for ratings but I think giving a same-sex relationship more screen time and visibility is ultimately a good thing. Let people get used to the idea so that the show can move in a more inclusive and not quite so hetero-normative direction in the future. It’s 2019, folks, can we stop acting like same-sex couples should be kept hidden and stay hidden?

Amira
Amira

But did they have to do it the way they did it? I’m all for including LBGTQ-people but come on, since the show exists having a girl/boyfriend would have lead to a bad edit and ultimate send home. I don’t see the difference and this double standard makes me feel icky.

malgorzata
malgorzata

Fully agree. Also, Kristian’s presence is forced . Supposedly, the main idea of this show is to offer a second chance to find love to all past contestants of the Bachelor/ette. Kristian is an outsider. Never been or applied for participation in this show. And as such, she should not overstay her welcome. She and her beloved Demi should have left. Very selfish, uncomfortable , and not fair towards the rest of the Bach beach group ; even if it was vital for producers to introduce their gay love -they shouod’ve been gone by now.

tracee
tracee

Totally agree! So beyond mean to have Demi stay with some random girlfriend she left behind. Was it only last season they villified Jed for coming on the Bachelorette with a girlfriend? Demi should have stayed and give Derek a chance to meet someone and be happy. You can’t blame Blake for being a player then let Hannah and Demi basically do the same thing

Whydoikeepwatching
Whydoikeepwatching

Exactly! CH called Blake a “dumpster fire” for being a player, but he loves Demi even though she played Derek. He also didn’t hold Caelynn accountable for whipping up drama and weeping and wailing about how Blake treated her, even though the texts he released told a different story. I know it’s all a ratings game, but it’s going too far.

Libby
Libby

You realize the texts were released loooong after filming actually happened right? CH wouldn’t have known anything about it while the filming was actually happening.

For the love of all things holy, do NOT compare Demi to Jed. Demi was up front with Derek about having another person early in the relationship. We don’t know how long these BIP “weeks” actually are but it was probably only a matter of days into the relationship that she told him, a week or so at most. There is a HUGE difference between that and keeping your girlfriend a secret while you PROPOSE and GET ENGAGED to another person and only coming clean when you’re caught. Jed is 10,000 levels shadier than Demi. Also Demi isn’t being a “player” in the way that Blake is. Blake had multiple relationships with people on the show before the show even happened and created expectation among the girls that they would be a thing with him when the season started. I’m not saying that Demi was right in all her actions, but she’s at fault in a different way than Blake and Jed. Also, Derek has come out and said that he didn’t feel deceived and that he supports her in her decision, so why fight a battle for him that he doesn’t feel inclined to fight himself? Kristian knew Demi was going on the show and knew she’d probably make out with some people while there. Neither Kristian nor Demi actually expected Demi to find someone immediately that she truly cares about and when she realized she was getting in deep with Derek she handled it appropriately.

AnnyFanny
AnnyFanny

That all sounds right on to me Libby.

I would only add that I think Demi and Kristian make a sweet match, but I do think they should have departed out of the goodness of their lucky little hearts, ratings be damned.

RA Funderburk
RA Funderburk

I was thinking the SAME thing??? Why is Jed cast as Satan for his behavior prior to the show (having a love interest), but Demi gets a free pass?

DonnaMarie
DonnaMarie

So basically if you can get ratings with girl on girl action, it’s ok to have a significant other back home and then make a vacation out of it. Why wouldn’t Chris just send them back home after their date? And where’s she going to sleep? The other couples don’t get their own room.

DeeBee
DeeBee

Totally agree. And I seriously doubt the franchise would have done the same for a male contestant who had a boyfriend back home.

Libby
Libby

Why wouldn’t they do the same for a male contestant?

ScoobySnaxx
ScoobySnaxx

I’d be really surprised if they ever did. The show can’t even cast a black man as the lead. They seem to worship the straight, white male against all costs. I really want Mike to be the next Bachelor but am starting to think that they’re throwing Derek at us now.

Sad
Sad

Sadly because watching 2 women together is more appealing to a hetero guy than watching 2 men together. It is sick. Letting them stay in Paradise (though this would never be allowed with a hetero couple in same situation) is wrong. I feel like the producers can barely contain their glee at the good fortune they have to now exploit this great couple for their own gain. They get to hide behind the “we’re so open minded and ground breaking” when really they know all the straight men will be watching for what they typically only get to see in porn. Gross. God bless Demi and her girlfriend- just hate that ABC is using them.

Liana
Liana

Totally double standard. If Derek had said he had a girlfriend back home but came to the beach to explore his options, do you think CH would have flown in his old girlfriend, given them a fancy date, and let them stay on? Of course NO! He would have sent Derek home in a New York minute. The producers are pandering to us to let us see how open minded and non judgmental they are. I call that BS

Sad
Sad

As Rachel Lindsay would say, “100”!!

Sad
Sad

Totally agree as well. This reeks of a ratings grab and complete double standard. I am glad for Demi, but she should have left Paradise to pursue her chosen relationship. If we are going to say all relationships are equal, let’s act like it. Bringing the “significant other back home” to Paradise would never be tolerated in a hetero relationship. Her relationship is being exploited by ABC for ratings and it makes me sick.

Allia
Allia

They are totally milking this relationship for ratings, which is gross imho. They would have never given a straight couple such privileges! Demi should have gone home, like any other contestant would have… but I guess there are no rules (just ratings)

Libby
Libby

Maybe because straight couples have infinitely more privileges in general than same-sex couples? Let them have one thing, gosh.

NewMama
NewMama

I hear you, Libby. While it’s a complete double standard and a transparent ratings grab, non-hetero couples have constant privilege. Giving a little more to a couple that already faces oppression that those of us in traditional hetero dyads can’t even comprehend, doesn’t seem like the worst thing. ABC: terrible motivations, but good choice overall. IMHO

Also, for the record, I don’t think any of us can blame OHCH for any of this. It’s obviously all Mike Fleiss. The devil incarnate.

ScoobySnaxx
ScoobySnaxx

Devil’s advocate: Derek was in on the whole thing. He gets the hero edit…and possibly next Bachelor.

DonnaMarie
DonnaMarie

I believe that as well.

Yank
Yank

Couldn’t agree more….. it’s almost starting to look like Professional Wrestling in that storylines are pre-scripted.

Ruth

I think they’re keeping Demi around for two reasons: they want to show how progressive they are and Demi is tv gold.
Funny, charismatic, beautiful, the whole package. I would have said smart before I heard the Nelson Mandela thing. Clever? Yeah clever works.

tracee
tracee

Stay in School Kids!

Grace
Grace

You are confusing smart with educated.

Libby
Libby

Amen to that, Grace.

Kay
Kay

Sigh….I was already annoyed at the double standard, but then I read on a spoiler site that Demi had told people PRIOR TO FILMING that she was going to bring the girl on, and leave engaged to her.
And….that she’s been in an openly gay (as in photos posted on IG) relationship BEFORE THIS, so her “bravery” could be interchanged with “opportunistic.”
Knowing this, (if it’s true) made me smh (violently, lol) when she was so “surprised” by her girlfriend’s arrival.
I’ve always thought this show (or any in the franchise) was much more scripted than they claim, but this blatant ratings grab makes me feel like a fool for giving the show so much of my time, especially when they think we’ll buy the BS they’re trying to sell. A contrived story doesn’t come off as more authentic, just because Demi cries over the sounds of a melancholic guitar. Eyeroll.
Lincee, the powers that be over at ABC should seriously compensate you….I’m sure half the people here would have been long gone if it weren’t for your recaps!
But thank you, THANK YOU for hanging in there with them!

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blahblahblaaaah

Lincee always says this a a spoiler free zone- ugh! please don’t ruin our fun

Ann M Hensley

Great recap as usual! Lmao over Havana Nicole singing segment.
Also- totally on board with Derek for Bachelor!

Rosa
Rosa

The whole Nicole singing thing was awkward yet hilarious! Not only did she sing, but her flailing around the beach bed was couch cushion worthy! LOL

Lara
Lara

Just watched Havana singing; had trouble getting through that extremely short clip. Maybe an idea that sounded good in theory but somehow didn’t work. I was distracted by all the words having to rhyme perfectly. I think it also seemed awkward because I sense no chemistry at all there as she is climbing over him and singing about how “yummy” he is.

Allia
Allia

I’m not sure if I’m alone on this. I really wanted Mike for the bachelor, but I keep getting the sense that ABC is trying to steer the audience away from him. First, they gave Peter (and his family!) A LOT of airtime during the finale… now they’re giving Derek the wounded hero edit. I don’t have a problem with either Peter or Derek, but what’s wrong with Mike? Is there something about him that we’re not seeing, or is it just good ol’-fashioned racism refusing to let up?? It’s been bugging me.

Libby
Libby

Right there with you. It’s high time they had a black bachelor and they have the full package with Mike. Unless he turned it down or leaves paradise engaged, not choosing him in favor boring white bread Peter is straight up racism at this point.

Sad
Sad

Hi Allia- I am wondering also if there is something we are not seeing with Mike. He had such good feedback after Hannah’s season, and now it is just crickets on BIP. The only thing I picked up on from his time in the beach is that he might have seemed overly interested in just being in any relationship? I am struggling to remember the details, but he was over the moon about his date with Caelyn, then I’m thinking the next day there was something off about his over the top talking about Sydney? I don’t know. I can’t remember the details. Does anyone else remember that or think that was weird? I can’t believe ABC wouldn’t capitalize on such a beloved figure as Mike and have the opportunity to have the first black bachelor, but then again….

Christa S
Christa S

Did anyone else notice Dylan was in the pool with Hannah, and he had his legs wrapped around her waist while she carried him around? I had to rewind and make sure that’s what I was seeing. I laughed so hard! It was in the background when Katie was sitting on the side of the pool talking to someone about Chris going out with the new girl.

Norma
Norma

Christa, yes!!!! I saw that too. How weird was that??? Just goes to show how clingy he is and in the literal sense in this case!

Sincethebeginning
Sincethebeginning

I SAW IT TOO! However, I convinced myself that I saw it wrong, since I don’t have a way to rewind. I was laughing so hard while I was telling my daughter what I (thought I) saw. Glad for the confirmation!

NewMama
NewMama

YES! I made my husband rewind, and I said the exact same thing about how he is “literally so clingy!”

LORRAINE
LORRAINE

Demi needs to leave Paradise and do whatever OFF Camera.. Just last year she was ready to MARRY Colton… Now she wants the world to believe she has a Girlfriend. This was all for ratings! They probably asked who is bi-curious and she raised her hand!

Also I think ABC should wash its hands of Hannah and all her lil cronies. They are just too young! The viewers need a more mature set of people ready and willing to find love! Not a bunch of folks trying to launch a brand or career!

Libby
Libby

Why don’t you say what you mean? “Demi should go do her lesbian stuff off camera where I don’t have to see it.” This comment is disgusting and homophobic as heck. I’m glad Demi is staying on the show so people get to watch and maybe learn some things about tolerance and inclusiveness.

JulieEps
JulieEps

I am also all for Demi and her girlfriend. I think part of the problem is people can’t put themselves in Demi’s shoes. It’s not a place most people find themselves… caught between living romantically with the same sex or living romantically with the opposite sex. Perhaps Demi needed time to figure out which one she truly wanted to pursue. I doubt it was all that deep or complicated for Demi, but some people really do have to go through that. Some people don’t have families that are supportive like Demi’s and so they choose the more conservative route based only on the fact their families will never accept a gay lifestyle. So, you know. It’s not as simple as “Demi duped what’s his name!” Sigh. . And it’s not the same as Jed. Jed lied the entire time. Demi was upfront. Ish. Whatever. I don’t know these people, but I am glad there’s two hot girls making out. They are so pretty and I like watching them kiss. So what. 🙂

Libby
Libby

YES Julie! Couldn’t agree more!

Rosa
Rosa

I’m all for Mike or Derek as next Bachelor! I do think they wait for BIP to air to see how their prospects come out. We know Derek has been jilted, but Mike is still in it (although I don’t see him and Sydney working out). Peter is cute but he says “LIKE” every other word and I could not handle a whole season of that. Currently trying to get my 11 year old daughter to stop saying it! I knew the whole Demi/Kristian thing was coming and am perfectly fine with it, but when she said they were staying in Paradise I immediately thought that was not fair for Derek or anyone else. She is basically saying “I choose Kristian, and oh by the way, we are going to stay here and rub it in your face!”. Had she said they would kindly leave Paradise to pursue their relationship NOT on TV, then it would seem more genuine. Demi was such a character on Colton’s season and this is no different. She is hilarious and I love her commentary, but I’m not sure I trust her motives. It’s like the whole thing was planned from the start and now she’s all over the media. Maybe I am wrong, but just don’t have a good feeling about them staying.

Sad
Sad

Hey Rosa- I feel like it was ABC, not Demi, who was pushing Kristian to stay for the ratings. I don’t know- I could be wrong. Demi seems like a genuine person and well liked in the franchise. Seems like she wouldn’t have had to do this just for publicity- she already had a great platform?

Libby
Libby

Something needs to be made clear:

Queer relationships are complicated and confusing, especially for a person entering one for a first time. There is a lot of second guessing when it comes to a bisexual person figuring out that they are bisexual. Demi very likely was questioning the validity of her feelings for Kristian because it’s been so engrained in her by society that being attracted to the same sex is wrong. For her to say that she came on the show to seek clarity is totally valid. She was upfront with Derek about it. She never lied to him, except to maybe underplay the feelings she had when she told him the first time but it’s probable that she herself didn’t realize how strong they were at that point. The difference between her and Jed or Blake or whoever is that she didn’t LIE.

Second, people saying it’s bad because it came at the expense of Derek’s feelings, I have a few responses: they were “together” maybe two weeks max? Probably less because we know that these seasons are filmed in a much shorter timeframe than we are led to believe. He wasn’t in love with her and he will get over it. Even if he was, frankly, I’m willing to sacrifice a straight white man’s “feelings” for some long overdue queer representation. And also, he has stated that he is happy that Demi did what she did, that he didn’t feel manipulated, and that he supports her 100%. Don’t fight a battle for someone who doesn’t think it should be fought. Who knows, maybe he’ll even get Bachelor out of this. He’ll be fine.

For those who say it seems fake and overproduced, well, what’s the likelihood that a gay relationship would happen on this show otherwise? You’d have to have two openly bisexual people who are actually into each other to be on at the same time for it to happen more naturally. I’ll take overproduced over no representation at all. It’s not just straight white people that watch this show. It is refreshing to see this franchise even trying at all, given that this is the same franchise who just two years ago thought it would be entertaining to cast a known racist as a contestant for the first black bachelorette. Applaud them for at least making an effort to be better.

And regarding whether or not Demi and Kristian should leave? Sure, it might be tough for Derek for a minute but as stated above and if the previews are anything to go by, he’ll be just fine and will find someone else. Don’t be so quick to say that the franchise’s first queer relationship should be hidden away so quickly. If you find it “offensive” to have to watch two women in love with each other, that’s a you problem. It’s 2019, homosexuality has existed as long as humans have, it’s been pretty solidly shown that it isn’t a “choice”, and that there are millions of queer people in the world. Time to get with the program because otherwise you’re fighting a losing battle. Saying you’re fine with it but don’t want to see it, guess what, no one wants to see your PDA either. All relationships are valid and all of them should have a place on a show about finding love. The Bachelor franchise has just made a statement for the first time that it believes that all love is valid. If the most heteronormative show on tv can make this change, so can you.

I’m happy to discuss any of these points with you further but please know, I will not tolerate blatant homophobia. I know that a large majority of Lincee’s fan base are Christian women and that this content might strike some conflicting feelings. Please know that it’s okay and pretty widely accepted to be a Christian and an LGBT-ally. Jesus loves all and if God hated gay people, why did He create them? Work through that at your own pace but please leave the judging up to God, especially when it comes to people He created and loves feeling accepted by the societies they were born into.

Contrarian
Contrarian

With respect, your comment is filled with judgment, even as you caution others about what you’ll “tolerate.”

Tolerate? Seriously? That’s the sort of warning one might expect from a jurist who’s about to issue a contempt citation — or a teacher facing unruly second-graders. Very different from the tone of every other post in this thread, even those expressing disagreement.

In my view, intimidation doesn’t promote open, amiable conversations of the sort this site is famous for, it suppresses them. In declaring what you’ll “tolerate,” you seem to be taking upon yourself what you properly acknowledge to be the prerogative of God — or at the very least, the administrator of this comment board.

Libby
Libby

You seem to be ignoring everything I said except that I won’t tolerate blatant homophobia in response to my points. Be homophobic elsewhere and let God judge you for it, but it doesn’t have a place in any conversation with me. If you have anything you’d like to discuss in response to any of my main points about the Demi/Kristian/Derek situation, I’m happy to have a calm, intellectual conversation with you.

Libby
Libby

I did not intend for you or anyone to feel that I wasn’t here for open, amiable conversation. I do not think that expressing that I have no time to entertain hate inhibits that.

CrazyCat
CrazyCat

Well said, Contrarian! Basically Libby declared she was judge, jury, and executioner of comments she deems don’t match her interpretation of the “prerogative of God.”

Libby
Libby

Nope, just said I won’t tolerate homophobia and hate. It’s not a matter of opinion here. You’re entitled to your opinions, but you’re not entitled to an opinion that causes other people harm.

JulieEps
JulieEps

I love this. And I couldn’t agree more.

Libby
Libby

Thanks, Julie 🙂 I’m glad I’m not the only one here that feels this way.

JulieEps
JulieEps

I actually replied to your reply on an earlier post… a similar type of thing… You replied to Lorraine and I replied to your reply. Am I babbling? I’m babbling.

Sad
Sad

Hey Libby- I agree with a lot of what you said. But I would like to engage you about Kristian staying. I have a problem with Kristian staying not because it is offensive to watch or hurtful for Derek, but because the format of the show is to put people on the beach and they either find love with other people there or leave. Bringing in a girlfriend or boyfriend from back home to stay on the beach so they can “pursue their relationship” just wouldn’t be done and really just doesn’t make sense with the premise of the show. So while I cheer ABC and Demi for putting a face to what so many people experience, allowing the girlfriend back home to stay moves into skeevy territory for me because it feels like ABC is exploiting their relationship. I suppose this is truly nothing new for ABC as they will exploit any of these folks for ratings, but I just think they make a great couple and it makes me angry to think of them as being used. Does this make sense?

Libby
Libby

Yeah, I definitely see where you’re coming from with that. I would agree except for the fact that they were hardly shown at all in the next episode. After watching last night it doesn’t seem like them staying is really affecting anything nor are they really even getting much screen time. The most we saw Demi last night was when she was talking to Caelynn about Dean and Kristian wasn’t even there. So I don’t know, at this point it doesn’t seem to really matter that they stayed and there are bigger things to get upset about. Thank you for your thoughts. Agreed it’s weird and against show “rules” that they stayed, but also it’s not like people who find love on the show leave once they do (well, I guess sometimes they do but it’s not exactly a requirement). Regarding her being a girlfriend from back home, I guess I have to go back to my point that there was really no other way for them to have a same-sex couple on the show since the odds of it happening naturally are so low. So are they exploiting them or providing LGBT visibility? Both, I think. If being on the show isn’t harming Demi and Kristian, I’m willing to overlook the exploitation.

Susan
Susan

I am just not buying what they are selling. The whole thing seems so pre-planned. I think Derek knew all along this was the storyline, They probably wanted Demi on the show because she is so entertaining, but since she was in a relationship already, they decided to capitalize on it and create drama about bring Kristian on.

For OHCH to pretend he knows nothing of Demi’s “dilemma” is laughable. How does someone outside of The Bachelor franchise get to be on the show anyway? And Kristian just gets a call and drops everything (job?) to go to Mexico for however many weeks?!?! Who can do that on the spur of the moment?

Why is it that everybody was on team “Poor Dylan” when Hannah was waffling, but they were applauding Demi/Kristian? Nobody is on team “Poor Derek”!!

Demi and Kristian should have left if this was real and not planned. Just my opinion….

I really liked Dean on The Bachelorette, he was tainted on Paradise. Now he just looks creepy with his porn mustache and hair. I don’t see the appeal in JPJ either. Enough with the hair flip!

And Mike for bachelor. I love his dazzling smile!

Becky
Becky

I may be naive because I don’t read articles related to the franchise that give insider info or follow any personal accounts of these people. I just watch the shows and read Lincee’s posts with comments. I truly feel that Demi was honestly confused. Obviously people are bisexual and I think she needed to find out more of who she is and go on the show. Her GF from home seems very confidently a lesbian woman, although I do not know that for sure. Once Demi was dating was Derek for a little while I think it became clearer and clearer to her. You could see her become more distant from Derek. That’s how it works. I was fine with CH bringing Kristian onto the show. The discussions of Kristian’s hurt and Derek’s hurt felt genuine to me and I found it all very interesting and legitimate to me. Maybe it wasn’t, Idk. I think it is ok for them to stay. There are other very formed relationships at this point and they aren’t asked to leave once it seems they’ve chosen to be a couple. You might say– Right but they could change their mind or someone else new may come in and change the dynamic. Although unlikely, the same is true for Demi and Kristian. I think CH has a very soft spot for Demi. It seems paternal. I am sure he gets to know these people very well over the years and forms true relationships with them. I believe he really wants to see her happy through her emotional struggle.